Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Just because I do not like Trump does not make me a "Democrat" In fact, many Republicans and Independents cannot stand him, hence one of the lowest approval ratings in modern history, and Republican groups like the Lincoln Project and more organizing and advertising against him. Get a clue dude, your boy Trump is not popular, regardless of political party affiliation. Snorky wants a DEM to play with him, I guess, because nobody else will.
Gee - my feelings are hurt . Way to express your
ignorance.
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by Snorkel: Just because I do not like Trump does not make me a "Democrat" In fact, many Republicans and Independents cannot stand him, hence one of the lowest approval ratings in modern history, and Republican groups like the Lincoln Project and more organizing and advertising against him. Get a clue dude, your boy Trump is not popular, regardless of political party affiliation. Snorky wants a DEM to play with him, I guess, because nobody else will.
OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread.
I think everyone on this thread can do better, myself included. The constant insults and such that is going on here towards anyone that disagrees with the DEM/LEFT crowd is pretty exhausting. Go back and read some of the stuff you guys write. I feel sad for everyone that typed a word here, some obviously more than others.
Some of you are now thinking....don't let the door hit you in the ass. I know. That's ok.
For the rest of you guys, if you want to make some money pop over into the investment threads. I don't have to agree with your political views, but I promise you will have a good chance to score some cash. The conversations over there don't tend to be as nasty and mean as you guys are because everyone is in a good mood from making money.
Gamble for entertainment, invest for wealth!
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OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread.
I think everyone on this thread can do better, myself included. The constant insults and such that is going on here towards anyone that disagrees with the DEM/LEFT crowd is pretty exhausting. Go back and read some of the stuff you guys write. I feel sad for everyone that typed a word here, some obviously more than others.
Some of you are now thinking....don't let the door hit you in the ass. I know. That's ok.
For the rest of you guys, if you want to make some money pop over into the investment threads. I don't have to agree with your political views, but I promise you will have a good chance to score some cash. The conversations over there don't tend to be as nasty and mean as you guys are because everyone is in a good mood from making money.
OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread. I think everyone on this thread can do better, myself included. The constant insults and such that is going on here towards anyone that disagrees with the DEM/LEFT crowd is pretty exhausting. Go back and read some of the stuff you guys write. I feel sad for everyone that typed a word here, some obviously more than others. Some of you are now thinking....don't let the door hit you in the ass.
don't let the door hit you in the ass, dem hater!
obama had the toughest presidency .trump was given a gift from obama.
look what trump did with it
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread. I think everyone on this thread can do better, myself included. The constant insults and such that is going on here towards anyone that disagrees with the DEM/LEFT crowd is pretty exhausting. Go back and read some of the stuff you guys write. I feel sad for everyone that typed a word here, some obviously more than others. Some of you are now thinking....don't let the door hit you in the ass.
don't let the door hit you in the ass, dem hater!
obama had the toughest presidency .trump was given a gift from obama.
OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread. I think everyone on this thread can do better, myself included. The constant insults and such that is going on here towards anyone that disagrees with the DEM/LEFT crowd is pretty exhausting. Go back and read some of the stuff you guys write. I feel sad for everyone that typed a word here, some obviously more than others. Some of you are now thinking....don't let the door hit you in the ass. I know. That's ok. For the rest of you guys, if you want to make some money pop over into the investment threads. I don't have to agree with your political views, but I promise you will have a good chance to score some cash. The conversations over there don't tend to be as nasty and mean as you guys are because everyone is in a good mood from making money.
gamble...you are relatively new to this forum. The divide in this forum is as stark as the divide in our country. The vitriol flows both ways. From the Democratic point of view, we don't like the corruption and lies coming out of the WH. From the Republican point of view. you are trying to hold on to the power you had.
We all want the best for the country. We just have different views on how to get there.
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Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:
OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread. I think everyone on this thread can do better, myself included. The constant insults and such that is going on here towards anyone that disagrees with the DEM/LEFT crowd is pretty exhausting. Go back and read some of the stuff you guys write. I feel sad for everyone that typed a word here, some obviously more than others. Some of you are now thinking....don't let the door hit you in the ass. I know. That's ok. For the rest of you guys, if you want to make some money pop over into the investment threads. I don't have to agree with your political views, but I promise you will have a good chance to score some cash. The conversations over there don't tend to be as nasty and mean as you guys are because everyone is in a good mood from making money.
gamble...you are relatively new to this forum. The divide in this forum is as stark as the divide in our country. The vitriol flows both ways. From the Democratic point of view, we don't like the corruption and lies coming out of the WH. From the Republican point of view. you are trying to hold on to the power you had.
We all want the best for the country. We just have different views on how to get there.
" At first, it seemed Trump was lowering the debt. It fell $102 billion in the first six months after Trump took office.19 On January 20th, the day Trump was inaugurated, the debt was $19.9 trillion. On July 30, it was $19.8 trillion. But it was not because of anything he did. Instead, it was because of the federal debt ceiling.
On September 8, 2017, Trump signed a bill increasing the debt ceiling. Later that day, the debt exceeded $20 trillion for the first time in U.S. history. On February 9, 2018, Trump signed a bill suspending the debt ceiling until March 1, 2019.21 It leapt to $22 trillion. In July 2019, Trump suspended the debt ceiling until after the 2020 presidential election. The debt soon rose to $23 trillion. Trump has overseen the fastest increase in the debt of ANY president.
Trump's Fiscal Year 2021 budget projects the debt would increase $4.8 trillion during his first term. (pre-pandemic!!) That's as much as Obama added while fighting a massive recession! Trump has not fulfilled his campaign promise to cut the debt. Instead, he's done the opposite. "
" At first, it seemed Trump was lowering the debt. It fell $102 billion in the first six months after Trump took office.19 On January 20th, the day Trump was inaugurated, the debt was $19.9 trillion. On July 30, it was $19.8 trillion. But it was not because of anything he did. Instead, it was because of the federal debt ceiling.
On September 8, 2017, Trump signed a bill increasing the debt ceiling. Later that day, the debt exceeded $20 trillion for the first time in U.S. history. On February 9, 2018, Trump signed a bill suspending the debt ceiling until March 1, 2019.21 It leapt to $22 trillion. In July 2019, Trump suspended the debt ceiling until after the 2020 presidential election. The debt soon rose to $23 trillion. Trump has overseen the fastest increase in the debt of ANY president.
Trump's Fiscal Year 2021 budget projects the debt would increase $4.8 trillion during his first term. (pre-pandemic!!) That's as much as Obama added while fighting a massive recession! Trump has not fulfilled his campaign promise to cut the debt. Instead, he's done the opposite. "
Experts estimate tens of millions of Americans contracted coronavirus but are not included in official tallies because of testing errors, misdiagnoses, a sluggish public health response, and ignorance about the disease during its early days in the United States.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported Thursday that there have been about 3.5 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 nationwide and at least 136,000 deaths. The actual number of infections is likely 10 times the number of reported cases, CDC Director Robert Redfield said in a news conference.
The nation’s understanding of the pandemic is hampered because so many victims remain uncounted. Americans who paid a physical and emotional toll for COVID-19 describe how being excluded from official statistics exacerbates their isolation, uncertainty, distrust and fear. And without an accurate count, researchers might draw flawed conclusions about the virus’ behavior, local leaders might make poor re-opening decisions, and citizens might underestimate their own risks.
Source: https://tinyurl.com/yyn72rtn
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Experts estimate tens of millions of Americans contracted coronavirus but are not included in official tallies because of testing errors, misdiagnoses, a sluggish public health response, and ignorance about the disease during its early days in the United States.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported Thursday that there have been about 3.5 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 nationwide and at least 136,000 deaths. The actual number of infections is likely 10 times the number of reported cases, CDC Director Robert Redfield said in a news conference.
The nation’s understanding of the pandemic is hampered because so many victims remain uncounted. Americans who paid a physical and emotional toll for COVID-19 describe how being excluded from official statistics exacerbates their isolation, uncertainty, distrust and fear. And without an accurate count, researchers might draw flawed conclusions about the virus’ behavior, local leaders might make poor re-opening decisions, and citizens might underestimate their own risks.
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread.
gamble...you are relatively new to this forum. The divide in this forum is as stark as the divide in our country. The vitriol flows both ways.
From the Democratic point of view, we don't like the corruption and lies coming out of the WH.
Additionally, I can confirm that from the Moderate/Independent point of view, - like myself and DeezyAZ81 - we don't like the corruption and lies coming out of the WH any more than the Democrats do!
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63: OK Guys. This will be my final post in this thread.
gamble...you are relatively new to this forum. The divide in this forum is as stark as the divide in our country. The vitriol flows both ways.
From the Democratic point of view, we don't like the corruption and lies coming out of the WH.
Additionally, I can confirm that from the Moderate/Independent point of view, - like myself and DeezyAZ81 - we don't like the corruption and lies coming out of the WH any more than the Democrats do!
Experts estimate tens of millions of Americans contracted coronavirus but are not included in official tallies because of testing errors, misdiagnoses, a sluggish public health response, and ignorance about the disease during its early days in the United States. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported Thursday that there have been about 3.5 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 nationwide and at least 136,000 deaths. The actual number of infections is likely 10 times the number of reported cases, CDC Director Robert Redfield said in a news conference. The nation’s understanding of the pandemic is hampered because so many victims remain uncounted. Americans who paid a physical and emotional toll for COVID-19 describe how being excluded from official statistics exacerbates their isolation, uncertainty, distrust and fear. And without an accurate count, researchers might draw flawed conclusions about the virus’ behavior, local leaders might make poor re-opening decisions, and citizens might underestimate their own risks.
Source: https://tinyurl.com/yyn72rtn
just what i thought too . the cases and deaths r actually undercounted for many resons
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Experts estimate tens of millions of Americans contracted coronavirus but are not included in official tallies because of testing errors, misdiagnoses, a sluggish public health response, and ignorance about the disease during its early days in the United States. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported Thursday that there have been about 3.5 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 nationwide and at least 136,000 deaths. The actual number of infections is likely 10 times the number of reported cases, CDC Director Robert Redfield said in a news conference. The nation’s understanding of the pandemic is hampered because so many victims remain uncounted. Americans who paid a physical and emotional toll for COVID-19 describe how being excluded from official statistics exacerbates their isolation, uncertainty, distrust and fear. And without an accurate count, researchers might draw flawed conclusions about the virus’ behavior, local leaders might make poor re-opening decisions, and citizens might underestimate their own risks.
Source: https://tinyurl.com/yyn72rtn
just what i thought too . the cases and deaths r actually undercounted for many resons
Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman said he thinks the market is overvalued, and that it is overlooking "a number of things."
Chiefly, he said, the market "is not recognizing the risks that we face: the China relationship deteriorating, the tremendous increase in debt in the system, certainly from the election, the virus issues," Cooperman told CNN's Christine Romans in an interview that aired on "Early Start" Monday.
The nation's rapidly growing national debt is among Cooperman's biggest concerns.
Instead of whittling down the federal deficit when the economy was strong, Trump directed the federal government pile on even more debt to pay for massive tax cuts and spending surged, which meant the country entered the coronavirus crisis in rough financial shape. Now, the national debt is exploding as Washington scrambles to rescue the US economy from the shock of the pandemic.
"I am focused on something the market is not focusing on at the present time and that is:
Who pays for the party when the party is over?" Cooperman said.
The deficit is growing at a rate "well in excess of the growth rate of the economy," he added. "To me, that means more of our nation's income will have to be devoted to debt service, which will retard economic growth in the long term."
Of course the self-proclaimed "King of Debt" is not worried. Afterall, it isn't HIS money...
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Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman said he thinks the market is overvalued, and that it is overlooking "a number of things."
Chiefly, he said, the market "is not recognizing the risks that we face: the China relationship deteriorating, the tremendous increase in debt in the system, certainly from the election, the virus issues," Cooperman told CNN's Christine Romans in an interview that aired on "Early Start" Monday.
The nation's rapidly growing national debt is among Cooperman's biggest concerns.
Instead of whittling down the federal deficit when the economy was strong, Trump directed the federal government pile on even more debt to pay for massive tax cuts and spending surged, which meant the country entered the coronavirus crisis in rough financial shape. Now, the national debt is exploding as Washington scrambles to rescue the US economy from the shock of the pandemic.
"I am focused on something the market is not focusing on at the present time and that is:
Who pays for the party when the party is over?" Cooperman said.
The deficit is growing at a rate "well in excess of the growth rate of the economy," he added. "To me, that means more of our nation's income will have to be devoted to debt service, which will retard economic growth in the long term."
Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman said he thinks the market is overvalued, and that it is overlooking "a number of things." Chiefly, he said, the market "is not recognizing the risks that we face: the China relationship deteriorating, the tremendous increase in debt in the system, certainly from the election, the virus issues," Cooperman told CNN's Christine Romans in an interview that aired on "Early Start" Monday. The nation's rapidly growing national debt is among Cooperman's biggest concerns. Instead of whittling down the federal deficit when the economy was strong, Trump directed the federal government pile on even more debt to pay for massive tax cuts and spending surged, which meant the country entered the coronavirus crisis in rough financial shape. Now, the national debt is exploding as Washington scrambles to rescue the US economy from the shock of the pandemic. "I am focused on something the market is not focusing on at the present time and that is: Who pays for the party when the party is over?" Cooperman said. The deficit is growing at a rate "well in excess of the growth rate of the economy," he added. "To me, that means more of our nation's income will have to be devoted to debt service, which will retard economic growth in the long term." https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/20/investing/leon-cooperman-stock-market-overvalued/index.html
Of course the self-proclaimed "King of Debt" is not worried. Afterall, it isn't HIS money...
to trump and supporters that is what winning looks like
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:
Hedge fund billionaire Leon Cooperman said he thinks the market is overvalued, and that it is overlooking "a number of things." Chiefly, he said, the market "is not recognizing the risks that we face: the China relationship deteriorating, the tremendous increase in debt in the system, certainly from the election, the virus issues," Cooperman told CNN's Christine Romans in an interview that aired on "Early Start" Monday. The nation's rapidly growing national debt is among Cooperman's biggest concerns. Instead of whittling down the federal deficit when the economy was strong, Trump directed the federal government pile on even more debt to pay for massive tax cuts and spending surged, which meant the country entered the coronavirus crisis in rough financial shape. Now, the national debt is exploding as Washington scrambles to rescue the US economy from the shock of the pandemic. "I am focused on something the market is not focusing on at the present time and that is: Who pays for the party when the party is over?" Cooperman said. The deficit is growing at a rate "well in excess of the growth rate of the economy," he added. "To me, that means more of our nation's income will have to be devoted to debt service, which will retard economic growth in the long term." https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/20/investing/leon-cooperman-stock-market-overvalued/index.html
Of course the self-proclaimed "King of Debt" is not worried. Afterall, it isn't HIS money...
to trump and supporters that is what winning looks like
Coronavirus will hit US county budgets to the tune of $202 billion, association says
From CNN Health’s Maggie Fox
The US’s 3,000 counties expect this year’s coronavirus pandemic to hit their budgets to the tune of $202 billion, meaning cuts in services, jobs and infrastructure projects, according to a survey published Tuesday.
Already, 71% of counties have cut or delayed capital investments such as infrastructure and economic development projects, the US' National Association of Counties (NACo) said in its report. And 68% reported they have cut services such as public safety and health services.
“Counties anticipate $202 billion impact to budgets through FY2021, with widespread economic consequences,” the report reads.
The group said counties employ 328,000 hospital workers, 374,000 law enforcement officers, 93,000 firefighting staff and 200,000 public health workers. Jails, airports, 911 call centers, child and domestic protective services and services for the elderly could all be impacted
Coronavirus will hit US county budgets to the tune of $202 billion, association says
From CNN Health’s Maggie Fox
The US’s 3,000 counties expect this year’s coronavirus pandemic to hit their budgets to the tune of $202 billion, meaning cuts in services, jobs and infrastructure projects, according to a survey published Tuesday.
Already, 71% of counties have cut or delayed capital investments such as infrastructure and economic development projects, the US' National Association of Counties (NACo) said in its report. And 68% reported they have cut services such as public safety and health services.
“Counties anticipate $202 billion impact to budgets through FY2021, with widespread economic consequences,” the report reads.
The group said counties employ 328,000 hospital workers, 374,000 law enforcement officers, 93,000 firefighting staff and 200,000 public health workers. Jails, airports, 911 call centers, child and domestic protective services and services for the elderly could all be impacted
"How Does Trump Stack Up Against the Best — and Worst — Presidents?"
We surveyed presidential politics experts to sketch out a first draft of Trump’s place in presidential history.
Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared. Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10. (#8) Republican-only voters ranked Obama #16 out of 44
And President Trump? Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey, he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut. (#44 of 44)
Trump doesn't get much of a lift from REPUBLICAN-ONLY votes: even in their eyes, he’s a BOTTOM-5 president!!
"How Does Trump Stack Up Against the Best — and Worst — Presidents?"
We surveyed presidential politics experts to sketch out a first draft of Trump’s place in presidential history.
Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared. Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10. (#8) Republican-only voters ranked Obama #16 out of 44
And President Trump? Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey, he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut. (#44 of 44)
Trump doesn't get much of a lift from REPUBLICAN-ONLY votes: even in their eyes, he’s a BOTTOM-5 president!!
US cities stand to lose $1.5 trillion in economic activity this year !
By Tami Luhby, CNN Business Updated 5:32 PM ET, Wed July 22, 2020
Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5rh3bzv
Cities could lose $1.5 trillion in economic activity in 2020 — and that's if the coronavirus pandemic is brought under control later this year, according to a new report from the US Conference of Mayors.
The loss amounts to a drop of 8.8% in economic output! The average unemployment rate for 2020 is expected to be above 10% in 161 metro areas, or 42% of the total, according to the report.
"Our budgets have really been hurt, some decimated, by this pandemic," said Louisville, Kentucky, Mayor Greg Fischer, the conference's president.
Over the second half of this year, metro economies should continue to recover some of the losses in jobs and wages from the spring — -- if the outbreak doesn't continue to surge.
But the recovery will be slow, according to the report. By the first quarter of next year, metro-level employment will remain 5.2% below that of a year earlier, a loss of 7 million jobs.
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Happening right now......on trump's watch:
US cities stand to lose $1.5 trillion in economic activity this year !
By Tami Luhby, CNN Business Updated 5:32 PM ET, Wed July 22, 2020
Source: https://tinyurl.com/y5rh3bzv
Cities could lose $1.5 trillion in economic activity in 2020 — and that's if the coronavirus pandemic is brought under control later this year, according to a new report from the US Conference of Mayors.
The loss amounts to a drop of 8.8% in economic output! The average unemployment rate for 2020 is expected to be above 10% in 161 metro areas, or 42% of the total, according to the report.
"Our budgets have really been hurt, some decimated, by this pandemic," said Louisville, Kentucky, Mayor Greg Fischer, the conference's president.
Over the second half of this year, metro economies should continue to recover some of the losses in jobs and wages from the spring — -- if the outbreak doesn't continue to surge.
But the recovery will be slow, according to the report. By the first quarter of next year, metro-level employment will remain 5.2% below that of a year earlier, a loss of 7 million jobs.
Jobless claims rise for first time in nearly 4 months
The U.S. jobs market recovery may be stalling. After steadily declining, the number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits rose last week for the first time in nearly four months.
The latest tally comes as coronavirus cases explode across the country, pushing authorities to shut down businesses again or pause reopenings.
What's more, some of those workers are being laid off for a second time as the economy battles a recession and faces weak demand.
The U.S. government has been issuing extra unemployment checks of $600 a week but that benefit ends next week. If it's not extended by Congress, it will leave millions of gig workers and self-employed workers without an income since they don't qualify for regular state unemployment insurance.
Jobless claims rise for first time in nearly 4 months
The U.S. jobs market recovery may be stalling. After steadily declining, the number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits rose last week for the first time in nearly four months.
The latest tally comes as coronavirus cases explode across the country, pushing authorities to shut down businesses again or pause reopenings.
What's more, some of those workers are being laid off for a second time as the economy battles a recession and faces weak demand.
The U.S. government has been issuing extra unemployment checks of $600 a week but that benefit ends next week. If it's not extended by Congress, it will leave millions of gig workers and self-employed workers without an income since they don't qualify for regular state unemployment insurance.
New York (CNN Business) Restaurant reservations are waning. The rebound in air travel is leveling off. And foot traffic at stores is dwindling once again. There is mounting evidence that America's fragile economic recovery is already stalling as the number of coronavirus infections and deaths spike.
"The premature reopening of the U.S. economy has resulted in an intensification of the pandemic, which is now causing growth in the economy to slow," Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM International, wrote in a note to clients Tuesday.
Economists say there is nothing to debate: The recovery is faltering.
"Activity is now clearly contracting in COVID hot spots, including the Sun Belt and the West," Aneta Markowska, chief economist at Jefferies, wrote in a report on Monday.
That is hardly surprising, given that 22 states have either reversed or paused their reopening due to health concerns. Recovery hopes overdone? This doesn't mean the US economy will keep shrinking in the third quarter. Economists are still betting GDP will turn sharply positive after having collapsed by an estimated 34% during the second quarter. But now they worry that the forecasts for blockbuster growth may be overly optimistic.
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New York (CNN Business) Restaurant reservations are waning. The rebound in air travel is leveling off. And foot traffic at stores is dwindling once again. There is mounting evidence that America's fragile economic recovery is already stalling as the number of coronavirus infections and deaths spike.
"The premature reopening of the U.S. economy has resulted in an intensification of the pandemic, which is now causing growth in the economy to slow," Joe Brusuelas, chief economist at RSM International, wrote in a note to clients Tuesday.
Economists say there is nothing to debate: The recovery is faltering.
"Activity is now clearly contracting in COVID hot spots, including the Sun Belt and the West," Aneta Markowska, chief economist at Jefferies, wrote in a report on Monday.
That is hardly surprising, given that 22 states have either reversed or paused their reopening due to health concerns. Recovery hopes overdone? This doesn't mean the US economy will keep shrinking in the third quarter. Economists are still betting GDP will turn sharply positive after having collapsed by an estimated 34% during the second quarter. But now they worry that the forecasts for blockbuster growth may be overly optimistic.
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