Ukraine..What's the Next Step?

Liberals: Trump supporters are literal Nazis and should be banished from politics.

Also Liberals: Ukrainian Nazis are ackshually not that bad.

The current CIA Director, William Burns, and a former CIA Director (and US Defense secretary), Robert Gates, both warned years ago, in the clearest terms, of the inevitable Russian response to any attempt to expand NATO to include Ukraine.

Are these two Putinists? Or nah? 

Please explain. 

The Wall Street Journal published an analysis in 2015 of individual donations over $50,000 made to the Clinton Foundation between 1999 and 2014. It found that Ukrainians were its top donors.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/clinton-charity-tapped-foreign-friends-1426818602

Between 2009 and 2013, while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation, which is based in Kiev.

The Journal reported that in 2008 Pinchuk made a five-year, $29 million commitment to the Clinton Global Initiative. The money went toward a program to train future Ukrainian leaders and professionals "to modernize Ukraine," according to the Clinton Foundation.

Bill Clinton spoke at an annual Yalta European Strategy meeting in 2007, a group founded by Pinchuk to promote Ukraine joining the EU. 

Putin invaded Ukraine. But an alliance of bad actors, the US foreign policy establishment, and NGOs paved the road that made the present crisis inevitable.

@StumpTownStu

 Nice post Stu, I like the analogy. Have seen pretty much that scenario (drunken abusive parents) in my lifetime, not me, a friend. 

It's tough for those folks. Sad to watch unfold.

@I_Need_A_Detox

Another significant sanctions have been imposed upon the Russian economy, MasterCard and VISA have halted all of their operations in Russia. Russians continue to feel pinched in their wallets and daily life from Putin's brutal action to invade Ukraine. Temperature and pressure keep rising inside the pot, Putin will start to face his own people's increasing frustration and angry.     

Shell, Pepsi, Coke & McDonalds are still doing business in Russia.

You know what to do.

I have to believe Russian spies are being coerced by other intelligence agencies to help us help you if you know what I mean.

BTW...this is how dumb Marco Rubio is. The Ukrainian Ambassador asked members of Congress not to capture any screen shots of the Zoom call during President Zelensky's call.

But Rubio, who is Vice Chair of the Senate Intel Committee, couldn't comply with the simple request. The location of President Zelensky is of upmost importance & it's to protect him.

At times we are our own worst enemy.

@Midnight1

 I never buy Shell gasoline, I don't eat McDonald's, but you'll have to pray my Mexican Coke from my cold, dead hands. Cold like that glass bottle right out of the freezer just as tiny ice crystals are starting to form.

@StumpTownStu

 OK, so are we talking about that all sugar Mexican Coke or the other?

Either way, you get a pass bro.

I just learned a little more about Zelensky's Zoom call & our other Senator Rick Scott....

At one point during his emotional presentation, Zelensky paused to ask one of the American lawmakers to mute themselves. “Senator Rick Scott, please mute your mic,” he said.

What can I say...FLORIDUH! 

The cane sugar Mexican Coke but I saw something where they are sneaking HFCS into the Mexican Cokes now so who knows what I'm drinking. I think it depends on what bottler it's imported from. Off subject but Mexico is apparently addicted to Coke. Ironically they don't get Mexican Coke. The typically drinking regular old HFCS Cokes. They're also the most obese country. It's sad.

     Biden-led sanctions are having the intended "ripple effect" 

There is almost zero corporate press reporting on Ukraine's Azov Battalion, the neo nazi enterprise that is officially recognized as part of the country's military.

Midnight, did any of the fake Democrats bother to ask Zelenskyy about the Azov Battalion? 

The more I watch the more I am convinced Putin is baiting the world. He is slowly destroying Ukraine piece by piece when he could have easily overran it.

Our media says Russian soldiers fleeing and abandoning, Russian vehicles old and breaking down, rations all expired. Not buying it.

Russian Air Force barely being used. 

By time he is done the cost to rebuild Ukraine will not be worth it. 

Oh, he is crazy, insane. Not buying that either. 

Agree, sanctions will hit Russian economy pretty good, Russian citizens will feel the pinch soon. That will stir big ripples inside that country, I'll say.   

@I_Need_A_Detox

 Don't know any fake Democrats.

@UNIMAN

 Putin will be totally ostracized. He has no future without looking over his shoulder ever day if he even lives through this. Sadly you still don't believe the MSM that is onsite with the Ukrainian people trying to stay safe from the shelling of schools and apartment buildings. 

@Midnight1  Well, you might know one......the tinfoil-hat-wearing 9/11 denier who bashes Democrats relentlessly as if that is his fulltime job, yet is quoted as saying: "I’m a registered Democrat tbh"

People who watch FOX exclusively only get half the story, and often, not even that much. At least this has deifinitely been the case since mid-January 2017 for some reason, although the morph seemed to begin around late-January 2009.........not sure why though.

CNN/ABC/NBC/CBS/MSNBC have their issues of course.  But NOTHING even close to as bad as FOX!

Where did I say that? Is false accusations a prerequisite to being a Democrat? Nevermind, already know the answer.

Remember when I mentioned the drone strike on a father and his children in Afgahnistan? Believe you said "collateral damage".  I won't be that cold. 

When you handout guns to your citizens realize the attackers now have a reason to attack your citizens. That's what I said, besides war is ugly and brutal. 

This game of cancelling Russia could backfire. Russian citizens may blame the West. A dangerous game! 

Will a destabilized Russia with nukes be better than what is there now? Looks more like emotional reaction than clear thought process.

He won’t be “totally ostracized” by nearly half of the world. And the other half will come back to him through negotiations for oil and gas after sky high prices demolish their (Germany, Italy, etc) economies. 

Obviously the US media is overstating the impact sanctions will have on Russia and understating the impact all of this will have on Europe and the US. 

@StumpTownStu

 That Mexican coke!! Las Vegas has Dotty's gambling eateries and now also  La Villita's Mexican themed gaming joints. There I get Mexican coke comp'd while playing video poker.

Sugar high!

China says their winter wheat crop is bad so they have to buy more from Russia.