@wallstreetcappers
Trump is the incoming POTUS and was a direct opponent of Harris, the content your side faults is largely in the arena involving Trump.
Okay?
So, how do you feel about the 'word salads' of Harris or her lack of knowledge on subjects or her inability to feel out her audiences?
I know how you feel about Trump; you say it at any chance possible.
I do not see it as your side does, few humans are able to be highly skilled at impromptu delivery there are not many who have this skill across all humanity. I do not agree with your contention and the quote that brought me in was not word salad it was taken out of context and intentionally misconstrued to form a partisan narrative. Her saying that people need to find options to deal with the stresses and complaints and uncertainty and depression I understood in 1 second after reading and yet for people like you and your side who want to put her down you make it into something it is not.
I just do not at all share your viewpoint or your criticism of her.
When have I said I laugh at him? Can you quote me when I said I laughed at his oratory skills? I said he is terrible at it and his zero ego thinks he has no need to improve but laugh at him? Nah I am not going to laugh at people when I think they are lacking.
@wallstreetcappers
I do not see it as your side does, few humans are able to be highly skilled at impromptu delivery there are not many who have this skill across all humanity
It is NOT 'most humans' we are talking about. It is a lawyer, a DA, and a politician. ALL of them can do it and most of them do it well. Sure, some are great speakers, some are great communicators, some have a grasp of the subject(s).
Some actually have some mix of all of these.
She simply has NONE of them and she should.
When you go through law school you take public speaking courses and are taught these things. Then when you get into a field that demands speaking, you get coaching. Some people it comes more naturally to, others need help.
She simply did not get the right help.
ANY lawyer or politician should be able and comfortable to get up and speak on a topic. She could not even do it well in a one on one setting.
Your boy Trump, was going in from of multiple audiences and sitting down with any podcaster for one on ones.
Why was she NOT allowed to do that? Her handlers simply realized she was incapable of doing it.
I think she simply was too 'lazy' to perfect this skill or did not feel she needed help with it.
@wallstreetcappers
I find Trump to be an awful speaker, he does not prepare and thinks his off the cuff approach is folksy and endearing, I find it useless and lacking much value of any kind. I have never felt that Harris was off in her speaking abilities no more than another say news reporter who gets thrown a question and has to improvise where sometimes it might be less than canned speech quality but the message is communicated. At least Harris does not pontificate about eating cats and dogs or peeking at Arnold Palmer in the locker room.
Your side likes to take shots at people and in this case Harris when there is little reason for doing so and it is not like she is an outlier, next week we will have another four years of the WORST speaker this country has ever been forced to endure and you want to complain about Harris over and over?
When you constantly say his speeches are rambling and Worst, etc. Then follow it up with a laughing emoji.
I simply have to assume that is making fun of -- which is, more or less, seen as laughing at or at least making fun of him.
@Raiders22
So quote me then...quote where I said I laugh at his oratory skiils? Then quote me five or ten times, you made the claim so back it up. I dont belittle or laugh at people even when I disagree or find fault. Pointing out blaring issues is not making fun or laughing at. I find the jabs and attacks, the belittling and put downs person to person as juvenile and of no value, but you want to laugh at someone go ahead its your life so go be you!
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@unplucked_gem
If I were her handler/coach she would have went on every one of them
I actually think she could adapt and learn. She needs to be taught to feel comfortable and present that way.
When you know the questions that are coming, or have a sense of them -- you should be able to 'talk' it.
She should have been able to articulate the differences between her plan and what Biden had been doing.
She should have been able to handle very basic inflation, border, economic issues.
Just be very basic about it and seem like you have learned something about them since the last time.
That was not the time for generic-speak. That was time to convince folks you knew what you were going to do and had a plan.
@Raiders22
Why do I need to qualify my comment? I am not asking you for a thesis paper on what you find fault with her. I do not laugh AT people even if I disagree and especially in a derisive unkind way. I just do not agree with your view on her public speaking skills but I am not interviewing to be a pocket expert with you nor do I want to be so spare me the diatribe about having to prove why I disagree with you. At some point there has to be the ability to have a difference of subjective opinion, but be certain that I am not going to require you to prove to me why you dislike her speaking skills. If you want to find flubs and flaws and human characteristics of ANYONE you can do so, nobody is perfect few are even highly proficient to the level that you feel she needs to be to qualify for your approval.
Ive never had an issue with her oratory skills even when there are moments of pause or replies that are not perfect. Again the comment that brought me to the discussion is so bizarre that I had to say something. I dont care if you dislike Harris or her speaking skills or that you want to belittle her by laughing AT her...the part of the message that I had to comment on was so poor that I replied to it. The rest of your partisan spin you can continue doing, I dont really care actually.
@wallstreetcappers
Why do I need to qualify my comment?
Because of it actually makes for a discussion.
I told you why I think she is not a good speaker. Then you say she is good.
I simply ask why you think so.
Maybe you do not have a background in it. But you should be able to express what you see and hear from her, etc. I am not asking on a professional level, really.
Do you feel she is okay outside of a pre-rehearsed reading of a speech on a teleprompter?
You are correct, that is where it can get dicey.
I say she is poor in that aspect and I have shown where I would coach her to improve.
You think she is perfectly fine there and could use no pointers?
@wallstreetcappers
the part of the message that I had to comment on was so poor that I replied to it. The rest of your partisan spin you can continue doing, I dont really care actually.
Take your partisanship out of it. That is all I am asking.
Then give an assessment. I know you like her politics. I am not asking about that part of the message.
I will give her the benefit of the doubt in one sense. I realize very early in the term she lost 3 or 4 key folks. She lost her key spokesperson and her communications chief and a couple of her key folks that were helping her out at first.
But I assumed that she would have hired some capable replacements -- maybe, they simply were incompetent.
So, maybe early on she had very little help.
BUT when she was selected as the nominee -- they knew her weaknesses and should have hired great coaches to help her.
Maybe a lot more folks should carry the blame.
@Raiders22
Why are you making multiple messages to reply to a single message I made? I am not going to reply to multiple messages that are just a continuation of a single tangent you are going on.
You keep saying you think she is not a good speaker...ok congrats you think that, I am not asking you to prove that she is either bad or good I am saying I do not find fault or laugh at her for whatever her speaking style is. I also said that there are MANY politicians who have quizzical public speaking styles that could be seen as peculiar and different. There are many politicians who are great public speakers and many who are not. We had three of the last four individuals as POTUS that are not good public speakers and that is just fine, who cares? You can care and you can ramble on about how her handlers this and needs practice that and try to minimize me by again saying I do not nave experience..your style of conversation is not welcoming it is not really conversation it is interrogation and insulting as a style. You cant suggest to ME anyway that you are seeking discussion by laying out the platform and requirements for HAVING discussion. I am not an employee or a student I am not seeking to be educated by you or have to prove with a research paper that I do not agree with your conclusions. The same goes in the other direction I am not and will never seek for you to follow my required outline to have discussion, I dont care if you have a different opinion and conclusion that is your right as a human being and good for you. I do not find any fault with her speaking skills, I am not criticizing or looking for faults in her as a person, my conclusion has zero to do with anything political it is only an observation as to her SPEAKING skills nothing else.
@wallstreetcappers
Yes. It is very pertinent, because it is a key reason she lost the election.
She could very easily have won.
Your opinion on speakers seems partisan. When you have someone that can sit down and carry on a random conversation on multiple topics; then you have someone that cannot do it at all -- that should not have to be seen through a political prism; either you can do it, or you cannot.
She could not, and that lost her the election, in part.
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