Please don't bring that kind of non-demagoguery talk into this thread.
Don't you know that all unions are bad? Fox News told me so. 
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this coming from the guy whos wife worked a union job and got to benefit from all the hard work the union did to get her the pay and benefits she got. You can be sure without the unions she more then likely would have never earned what she earned in her career, but hey go ahead and keep bashing the unions, they only helped to put food on your table.
And another thing bowlslit
when you have public workers working for the city or state, the only thing the taxpayers are paying for is the labor of the employees, the city or state doesnt have to make a profit off the taxpayer, but when a private company takes over the public jobs, that company isnt going to just provide the taxpayers with services so its employees can make money, hell no, the owners are going to want to make profit on top of paying its workers. So even thou private contracts might start out cheaper to taxpayer{thats only to get the contract in the first place} they soon go way up, costing the taxpayer more then they were paying for public employees. And once they lock up those long term contracts, there isnt a single thing the taxpayer can do about it, their screwed.
So why anybody with a half a brain would want private companies to take over public sector jobs is beyond me. I guess some people are so brain washed into thinking they are going to get big savings like the the poducts they buy from walmart that are made overseas, or else they just like to pay more for the services, while seeing the rich guys make even more of our cash.
Stevie, what is it you do for a living?
also thanks for that apology over in the nfl thread, i appreaciate it.
Its called signing a contract, thats why they cant get it back.
And my friends garbage collection in the city over was just a fluke.
Hey if you cant put 2 + 2 together to figure out what will happen when private owned companies take over public jobs, then i certainly aint gonna be able to convince you otherwise. You will just have to wait until it hits your city, then you will feel what its like yourself.'
Private companies are in business for one reason, to make the very most money they can make and if you actually sat down and thought about what can happen if all kinds of private companies take over public jobs.
On top of that do you really want to turn over law enforecment in the country to a private company? Do you really want a private company to have taht kind of power? Really sit down and think about that.
Funny that democratic policies like encouraging poor people to purchase homes they couldnt afford and subsequently crashing the housing market brought down our standard of living yet you were mysteriously oblivious to that. I don't think union busting will be one thousanth as debilitating as that great example.
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this coming from the guy whos wife worked a union job and got to benefit from all the hard work the union did to get her the pay and benefits she got. You can be sure without the unions she more then likely would have never earned what she earned in her career, but hey go ahead and keep bashing the unions, they only helped to put food on your table.
CoolaideDrinker329- You can't have it both ways...either union salaries are padded or they are not...you have said previously that it was only the pensions that were padded...which is it? or just admit the truth that they are both padded
How many more times must I/we make this point? Less than stellar union employees don't get fired...they retire as less than stellar employees. In the private sector they are invited to find work elswhere...or public sector unions recruit them.
CoolaideDrinker329- You can't have it both ways...either union salaries are padded or they are not...you have said previously that it was only the pensions that were padded...which is it? or just admit the truth that they are both padded
seriously are you really this dumb? Really are you? Pensions are padded, not salaries.
Do you understand what am talking about when i say padded pensions? I dont think you do.
Its when you are allowed to use your overtime wages{which i dont care how much overtime an employee gets, because if he wants to work all those hours then good for him} to be used in your pension calculations. Thats pension padding, but its not salary padding. Now do you understand? A damn first grade class would be able to understand this.
As far as salary padding, no i dont think employees are overpaid in their regular wages.
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this coming from the guy whos wife worked a union job and got to benefit from all the hard work the union did to get her the pay and benefits she got. You can be sure without the unions she more then likely would have never earned what she earned in her career, but hey go ahead and keep bashing the unions, they only helped to put food on your table.
Your words not mine. Oh the hypocracy.
How many more times must I/we make this point? Less than stellar union employees don't get fired...they retire as less than stellar employees. In the private sector they are invited to find work elswhere...or public sector unions recruit them.
I hate to burst your bubble, but lousy employees get fired all the time and just because they dont send a press release to your house telling you about the firing, it really is happening on a daily basis.
Also there is less then stellar people working in every field of work out there, union and no union. Just take a look at you, am sure you were less then a stellar employee and they didnt fire you.
By the way you said, you got hurt and cant work anymore, that must mean you are collecting that dirty social security disabilty money then.
I hate to burst your bubble, but lousy employees get fired all the time and just because they dont send a press release to your house telling you about the firing, it really is happening on a daily basis.
Also there is less then stellar people working in every field of work out there, union and no union. Just take a look at you, am sure you were less then a stellar employee and they didnt fire you.
By the way you said, you got hurt and cant work anymore, that must mean you are collecting that dirty social security disabilty money then.
Wrong again...No SS check for me...
Oh ya...I still hold the production record I set for the job I held.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but lousy employees get fired all the time and just because they dont send a press release to your house telling you about the firing, it really is happening on a daily basis.
Also there is less then stellar people working in every field of work out there, union and no union. Just take a look at you, am sure you were less then a stellar employee and they didnt fire you.
By the way you said, you got hurt and cant work anymore, that must mean you are collecting that dirty social security disabilty money then.
LMFAO...If I were a less than stellar employee I WOULD have voted FOR the union to come in and make sure I wouldnt get fired.
I VOTED NO
look at that another guy complaining about public jobs. If theya re so great like you say they are, why the hell didnt your dumb ass get up off your ass and go apply or take a test to get one of these jobs? really why did you go take a low paying job in the publci sector?
also killer b you gotta stop trying to compare private sector jobs to public sector jobs, its like comparing apples to oranges.
sorry to have breal the news to you, but you working the service counter at burger king shouldnt be earning the same type of wages a cop earns. 2 entirely differnt jobs.
You know what some of the probelms with guys like you is? you have all become so accustomed to having water when you turn on your tap, having your garbage picked up, having your strrets plowed, having a cop or firefighter respond to you when you pickup the phone and dial 911, that you have forgotten that there are actually people working those jobs and thats why all those things are able to work for you.
You all just forgot that its actually people providing you all these services in society to you.
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