Why this Conservative is voting for Obama ...

Rink....with all do respect the gop doesn't want to steal any benefits from seniors in that they want to restructure those programs to make them solvent long term.

BULLSHIT!!!

Paul Ryan's "voucher plan" would make every senior shop for healthcare and I can assure you that IF they have a pre-existing condition, Ryan's "voucher" MIGHT pay for half the cost IF they could even GET coverage.

I don't WANT to take that CHANCE after paying into FICA all my working LIFE.

NO THANK YOU!!!

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I'm pretty surprised at those of you patting this guy on the butt for the OP

This 'conservative' is voting for Obama, so that the entire country can revel in four more years of misery, so that he can profit from it

That's what it means to be a 'conservative' to you guys in the 21st century?

My personal belief systems don't jive with any of the EHollywood Politics labels that y'all love to gab about, however i am a capitalist at the core, and as a free market loving Capitalist, i understand that i need an environment filled with other successful people, or else i am left with nobody to trade with,,,,,,,,

I think you misunderstood the spirit of my post.

I was trying to express my frustration with the segments of our society whose social and political positions have no basis in reality. Daily we are innundated with utter nonsense presented as fact. We are surrounded by psuedo-intellectual (the left likes to think of them as useful) IDIOTS.

My business and full time regular job would, of course, both be  more lucrative in a good ecomony. That being said, I will not sit on my hands and feel sorry for myself should the worst happen in November. On the contrary, I have a wife and two small children who depend on me to provide for them. I also posess the initiative, ingenuity and desire to prosper in any environment (I have little doubt that you and countless other members of the productive class have as well) and I will use these tools to capitalize on the "unintended consequences" created by the central planners.

They sound like liberals. Shouldn't they be out woking and paying their own way?

As a liberal do you identify the goverment as your husband or as your parent?

I view the government as the person that sets the rules so that we can play the game.As a conservative you have made it known more than once that liberals leech off the system. I as just making a comparison .How do you view the government?

As defined by our Constitution I see it as a neccesary evil, an evil that needs to be kept in check.

In its current manifestation I see it for the abomination that it has become. I am deeply disturbed by those - like you - who willfully give up their God given Liberty and think it makes them seem smart or somehow patriotic.

To use your analogy, how long would you "play the game" if those in charge could change the rules at any time and confiscate the rewards you were earning for successful participation?

P.S. In a Democratic Republic our elected officials are supposed to REPRESENT us. RULERS (as you, accurately, described them) have no place in one.

Would you describe a "RULER" as someone who circumvents (look it up) Congress to provide arms to a terrorist nation? Just saying.

aren't you a millionare, and you are sweating out an SS check?  i don't quite understand,,,,,

YES I AM BUT that's BESIDES the POINT. AND, unlike people like Romney and oviosly YOU, I CARE about my fellow seniors that may NOT be as well off.

also, without Medicare I would be one serious illness away from NOT being a millionaire. I recently had a bout with sciatica and after all the tests trying to first identify the problem and second treating it, it would have cost me six figures.

like I said, I, and milloins of other seniors, paid into SS and Medicare our whole woking lives and we DON'T want some POPDICK like Paul Ryan STEALING it. THAT bird is supposidly in a "safe seat" in his Wisconsin district. we will find out next November. IF he has a bunch of seniors IN that district, he an d the Republicans could be in for a nasty suprise

and btw, IF we had the interest rates we had in the late 1970's-early 80's, I could probably DO without SS BUT with the "relatively risk free" 2% I'm getting, that's about 2k a month with my liquid net worth as opposed to 15k @ the 15% govenment bond rate back then.

I enjoyed your counter arguement!....Wait there wasn't one.

The problem with SS fund is that both sides of congress dip into the fund for funding other bs.

Oh the hypocracy of you lecturing someone on their relationship with facts!

You'd lie even if the truth sounded better.

I still remember the time you told me to stfu because I didn't know what I was talking about yet even your own video rebuttal proved that I was correct and it was you that was talking out of your ass....again.

You need to just stick to being the spelling police! Not grammar, just spelling!

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What are you even talking about. I never said anything to you, you idiot..?

To give you benefit of the doubt...it was about a year ago. Have you been screened yet for alzheimers?

John Galt speech

I think that most seniors, myself included, realize that the one making war onthe seniors is President Obama and his Obamacare.  Medicare premiums are jumping ahead wildly, I think it will cost a senior  around $240 a month for the premium in 2014, you can check it out.  Thank you,Obamacare.  The liberal Democrats use this same scare tactic every election, without fail.  I am sorry for those that cannot understand this.  It is not the Republican s that want to destroy Social Security, it is the stupid members of Congress, (both parties) who have refused to make the needed changes, they would rather holler "Medicare is doomed!"

Tell lies and do just opposite of the way you speak, that's the Obama way.  Actions speak louder than words.  He has risen a lot in the Rasmussen polls since he started his lying campaign.  We will need a Divine Intervention if he wins again.