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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 7:24 PM ET #1

    1) BMW will would move production for some of its SUVs out of the U.S. as a result of new tariffs placed on the vehicles, according to The Post and Courier in South Carolina.

     

    BMW is the largest U.S. auto exporter and employs 10,000 people at a plant in Spartanburg, S.C. The brand’s X3, X4, X5 and X6 SUV models and their variants are produced there.

     

    Trump hit China last week with steep tariffs on about $34 billion worth of products.

     

    China responded with retaliatory tariffs on American imports, including SUVs, soybeans and seafood.

     

     

    2) Harley Davidson has announced that it was moving some of its operations overseas because Trump’s tariffs will raise prices of its bikes in the U.S. and shrink the market.

     

     

    3) The country’s biggest nail maker, Mid-Continent Nail, said it laid off 60 U.S. employees on June 15 and that the whole company might go out of business by Labor Day. The Missouri company had been importing the steel for its nails from Mexico before the Trump administration placed a 25% tariff on the steel.

     

     

    4) China  buys soy from Russia after canceling US orders over Trump threats

     

    5) REC Silicon, which manufactures polysilicon for solar equipment, said it laid off 100 workers at its factory in Washington State because of the U.S.’s ongoing trade dispute with China. The company said its Washington plant has gone down to a quarter of its production capacity because of the dispute.

    The Solar Energy Industries Association estimates that new tariffs imposed by the Trump administration in January will remove 23,000 jobs from the U.S. solar industry.

    General Motors sent a letter to the Commerce Department complaining that further tariffs on imported auto parts and materials could result in higher car prices and, ultimately, a smaller GM.

     

     

    5) Volvo just opened a new plant in Ridgeville, South Carolina, and promised that 4,000 new employees would eventually work there. The company is now saying it may have to break its hiring promise because of the Trump administration’s steel tariffs and the threat of retaliatory tariffs by other countries.

     

     

     

      “I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created–and I mean that.”  Donald J Trump 

     

     

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    Sources: The Post and Courier (South Carolina), FastCompany.com

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    1) BMW will would move production for some of its SUVs out of the U.S. as a result of new tariffs placed on the vehicles, according to The Post and Courier in South Carolina.

     

    BMW is the largest U.S. auto exporter and employs 10,000 people at a plant in Spartanburg, S.C. The brand’s X3, X4, X5 and X6 SUV models and their variants are produced there.

     

    Trump hit China last week with steep tariffs on about $34 billion worth of products.

     

    China responded with retaliatory tariffs on American imports, including SUVs, soybeans and seafood.

     

     

    2) Harley Davidson has announced that it was moving some of its operations overseas because Trump’s tariffs will raise prices of its bikes in the U.S. and shrink the market.

     

     

    3) The country’s biggest nail maker, Mid-Continent Nail, said it laid off 60 U.S. employees on June 15 and that the whole company might go out of business by Labor Day. The Missouri company had been importing the steel for its nails from Mexico before the Trump administration placed a 25% tariff on the steel.

     

     

    4) China  buys soy from Russia after canceling US orders over Trump threats

     

    5) REC Silicon, which manufactures polysilicon for solar equipment, said it laid off 100 workers at its factory in Washington State because of the U.S.’s ongoing trade dispute with China. The company said its Washington plant has gone down to a quarter of its production capacity because of the dispute.

    The Solar Energy Industries Association estimates that new tariffs imposed by the Trump administration in January will remove 23,000 jobs from the U.S. solar industry.

    General Motors sent a letter to the Commerce Department complaining that further tariffs on imported auto parts and materials could result in higher car prices and, ultimately, a smaller GM.

     

     

    5) Volvo just opened a new plant in Ridgeville, South Carolina, and promised that 4,000 new employees would eventually work there. The company is now saying it may have to break its hiring promise because of the Trump administration’s steel tariffs and the threat of retaliatory tariffs by other countries.

     

     

     

      “I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created–and I mean that.”  Donald J Trump 

     

     

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    Sources: The Post and Courier (South Carolina), FastCompany.com

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 7:25 PM ET #2

        “I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created–and I mean that.”  Donald J Trump 


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        “I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created–and I mean that.”  Donald J Trump 


     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 8:57 PM ET #3

    Televangelist Jim Bakker said on his show last month  that Donald Trump was elected in order to give Christians time to prepare for the end of the world. And this was a fact, Bakker said, because God told him personally.
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    Televangelist Jim Bakker said on his show last month  that Donald Trump was elected in order to give Christians time to prepare for the end of the world. And this was a fact, Bakker said, because God told him personally.
     
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    3) The country’s biggest nail maker, Mid-Continent Nail, said it laid off 60 U.S. employees on June 15 and that the whole company might go out of business by Labor Day. The Missouri company had been importing the steel for its nails from Mexico before the Trump administration placed a 25% tariff on the steel.

    I saw this report a couple of weeks ago & all I could think of is....this town is screwed. We are talking about small town America & the biggest nail maker in the country going bye bye.

    Piglets/Shrooms.......WTF?????

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    3) The country’s biggest nail maker, Mid-Continent Nail, said it laid off 60 U.S. employees on June 15 and that the whole company might go out of business by Labor Day. The Missouri company had been importing the steel for its nails from Mexico before the Trump administration placed a 25% tariff on the steel.

    I saw this report a couple of weeks ago & all I could think of is....this town is screwed. We are talking about small town America & the biggest nail maker in the country going bye bye.

    Piglets/Shrooms.......WTF?????

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 10:30 PM ET #5

    White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said a plan by the Trump administration to pay as much as $12 billion in relief to U.S. farmers hurt by a burgeoning trade dispute is a stop-gap proposal and doesn’t signal a willingness to make a habit of aid programs.

    let's cut the B S , farms subsidies are added to offset the damage done by  Trump's tariffs.

    Who is going to pay for it ?

    On Wednesday, General Motors Co. cut its profit forecast this year on surging metals prices.

    But but .. Trump  is a "business man" 

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    White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow said a plan by the Trump administration to pay as much as $12 billion in relief to U.S. farmers hurt by a burgeoning trade dispute is a stop-gap proposal and doesn’t signal a willingness to make a habit of aid programs.

    let's cut the B S , farms subsidies are added to offset the damage done by  Trump's tariffs.

    Who is going to pay for it ?

    On Wednesday, General Motors Co. cut its profit forecast this year on surging metals prices.

    But but .. Trump  is a "business man" 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2018 - 10:35 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    1) BMW will would move production for some of its SUVs out of the U.S. as a result of new tariffs placed on the vehicles, according to The Post and Courier in South Carolina.   BMW is the largest U.S. auto exporter and employs 10,000 people at a plant in Spartanburg, S.C. The brand’s X3, X4, X5 and X6 SUV models and their variants are produced there.   Trump hit China last week with steep tariffs on about $34 billion worth of products.   China responded with retaliatory tariffs on American imports, including SUVs, soybeans and seafood.     2) Harley Davidson has announced that it was moving some of its operations overseas because Trump’s tariffs will raise prices of its bikes in the U.S. and shrink the market.     3) The country’s biggest nail maker, Mid-Continent Nail, said it laid off 60 U.S. employees on June 15 and that the whole company might go out of business by Labor Day. The Missouri company had been importing the steel for its nails from Mexico before the Trump administration placed a 25% tariff on the steel.     4) China  buys soy from Russia after canceling US orders over Trump threats   5) REC Silicon, which manufactures polysilicon for solar equipment, said it laid off 100 workers at its factory in Washington State because of the U.S.’s ongoing trade dispute with China. The company said its Washington plant has gone down to a quarter of its production capacity because of the dispute. The Solar Energy Industries Association estimates that new tariffs imposed by the Trump administration in January will remove 23,000 jobs from the U.S. solar industry. General Motors sent a letter to the Commerce Department complaining that further tariffs on imported auto parts and materials could result in higher car prices and, ultimately, a smaller GM.     5) Volvo just opened a new plant in Ridgeville, South Carolina, and promised that 4,000 new employees would eventually work there. The company is now saying it may have to break its hiring promise because of the Trump administration’s steel tariffs and the threat of retaliatory tariffs by other countries.         “I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created–and I mean that.”  Donald J Trump      Sources: The Post and Courier (South Carolina), FastCompany.com

    I've really been thinking about getting that X6.

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    1) BMW will would move production for some of its SUVs out of the U.S. as a result of new tariffs placed on the vehicles, according to The Post and Courier in South Carolina.   BMW is the largest U.S. auto exporter and employs 10,000 people at a plant in Spartanburg, S.C. The brand’s X3, X4, X5 and X6 SUV models and their variants are produced there.   Trump hit China last week with steep tariffs on about $34 billion worth of products.   China responded with retaliatory tariffs on American imports, including SUVs, soybeans and seafood.     2) Harley Davidson has announced that it was moving some of its operations overseas because Trump’s tariffs will raise prices of its bikes in the U.S. and shrink the market.     3) The country’s biggest nail maker, Mid-Continent Nail, said it laid off 60 U.S. employees on June 15 and that the whole company might go out of business by Labor Day. The Missouri company had been importing the steel for its nails from Mexico before the Trump administration placed a 25% tariff on the steel.     4) China  buys soy from Russia after canceling US orders over Trump threats   5) REC Silicon, which manufactures polysilicon for solar equipment, said it laid off 100 workers at its factory in Washington State because of the U.S.’s ongoing trade dispute with China. The company said its Washington plant has gone down to a quarter of its production capacity because of the dispute. The Solar Energy Industries Association estimates that new tariffs imposed by the Trump administration in January will remove 23,000 jobs from the U.S. solar industry. General Motors sent a letter to the Commerce Department complaining that further tariffs on imported auto parts and materials could result in higher car prices and, ultimately, a smaller GM.     5) Volvo just opened a new plant in Ridgeville, South Carolina, and promised that 4,000 new employees would eventually work there. The company is now saying it may have to break its hiring promise because of the Trump administration’s steel tariffs and the threat of retaliatory tariffs by other countries.         “I said that I will be the greatest jobs producer that God ever created–and I mean that.”  Donald J Trump      Sources: The Post and Courier (South Carolina), FastCompany.com

    I've really been thinking about getting that X6.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2018 - 12:20 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    I've really been thinking about getting that X6.


    X6 has less cabin and cargo space than X5

    Very nice car. get the M package and the Bang & Olufsen sound system 


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    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    I've really been thinking about getting that X6.


    X6 has less cabin and cargo space than X5

    Very nice car. get the M package and the Bang & Olufsen sound system 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    I've really been thinking about getting that X6.
    X6 has less cabin and cargo space than X5Very nice car. get the M package and the Bang & Olufsen sound system

    I know. I'm going for a crossover. Either the X6 or Mercedes GLE coupe. I've never had a BMW before. I've had two Mercedes' but both were used. Looking forward to a "new" new car. Proper new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:

    I've really been thinking about getting that X6.
    X6 has less cabin and cargo space than X5Very nice car. get the M package and the Bang & Olufsen sound system

    I know. I'm going for a crossover. Either the X6 or Mercedes GLE coupe. I've never had a BMW before. I've had two Mercedes' but both were used. Looking forward to a "new" new car. Proper new.

     
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    add Whirlpool and Coca-Cola to the list
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    Its all fake news , Hillary emails & O Bama's hair cut are the real problems 
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    Would love an X5 but it costs too much, I cant even think about spending 60k plus on a car, but if I were the X5 would be one Id consider.

    Big boy is starting to take these tariffs personally, going a bit too far with his tangent temper tantrum.

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    Would love an X5 but it costs too much, I cant even think about spending 60k plus on a car, but if I were the X5 would be one Id consider.

    Big boy is starting to take these tariffs personally, going a bit too far with his tangent temper tantrum.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Would love an X5 but it costs too much, I cant even think about spending 60k plus on a car, but if I were the X5 would be one Id consider. Big boy is starting to take these tariffs personally, going a bit too far with his tangent temper tantrum.

    Close to double that is what i'm looking at. It's crazy, I keep saying to myself, "H3ll, i'm damn near affording a Ferrari." but that fact is i'm not even close. It just feels weird being in thrle market for a 100k car but h3ll, i've got a buddy who just dropped something like 70k on a King Ranch. Cars/Trucks, like everything, just cost more now. Call it inflation, call it gouging...I think it's a little bit of both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Would love an X5 but it costs too much, I cant even think about spending 60k plus on a car, but if I were the X5 would be one Id consider. Big boy is starting to take these tariffs personally, going a bit too far with his tangent temper tantrum.

    Close to double that is what i'm looking at. It's crazy, I keep saying to myself, "H3ll, i'm damn near affording a Ferrari." but that fact is i'm not even close. It just feels weird being in thrle market for a 100k car but h3ll, i've got a buddy who just dropped something like 70k on a King Ranch. Cars/Trucks, like everything, just cost more now. Call it inflation, call it gouging...I think it's a little bit of both.

     
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    Sheesh 100k can get you one of those Tesla wing tops, Id choose that over an X5. And you are right you can style those out all day long, I guess I am admitting to being a bit on the frugal side. But at 60k for a car is frugal even a word to use?

     

     

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    Sheesh 100k can get you one of those Tesla wing tops, Id choose that over an X5. And you are right you can style those out all day long, I guess I am admitting to being a bit on the frugal side. But at 60k for a car is frugal even a word to use?

     

     

     
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    What was the topic again???

    Oh yeah,, tariffs and jobs losses.............

    The U.S. economic growth accelerated to an annual rate of 4.1% in the second quarter..

    The Trump Tariffs are working!

    Under President Trump the GDP-- .1% is higher today than the unemployment rate-- 4.0%.....so it looks like he's doing something right ..or after 17 months is this still due to Obama's actions ?
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    What was the topic again???

    Oh yeah,, tariffs and jobs losses.............

    The U.S. economic growth accelerated to an annual rate of 4.1% in the second quarter..

    The Trump Tariffs are working!

    Under President Trump the GDP-- .1% is higher today than the unemployment rate-- 4.0%.....so it looks like he's doing something right ..or after 17 months is this still due to Obama's actions ?
     
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    Edit *  Under President Trump the GDP-- 4.1% is higher today than the unemployment rate-- 4.0%.
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    Edit *  Under President Trump the GDP-- 4.1% is higher today than the unemployment rate-- 4.0%.
     
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    3.5M less people on Food Stamps than 2 years ago. GDP 4.1 at 2nd quarter of 2018. How many times has that happened this century? I remember the new normal was 2.0 according to BO and the gang.

    Of course everything isn't going to be perfect but the bottomline is there's no doubt that MAGA is working just fine. Sorry about that nail company. You're weeping allover yourself eh? 70,000 plants closed before Trump, you really care about any one of them? 

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    3.5M less people on Food Stamps than 2 years ago. GDP 4.1 at 2nd quarter of 2018. How many times has that happened this century? I remember the new normal was 2.0 according to BO and the gang.

    Of course everything isn't going to be perfect but the bottomline is there's no doubt that MAGA is working just fine. Sorry about that nail company. You're weeping allover yourself eh? 70,000 plants closed before Trump, you really care about any one of them? 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2018 - 10:28 PM ET #17

    Obama (2009-16)  ,avg, GNP 1.6 %...
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    In 1791, Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton wrote in his famous Report on Manufactures:

    "The wealth ... independence, and security of a Country, appear to be materially connected with the prosperity of manufactures. Every nation ... ought to endeavor to possess within itself all the essentials of national supply. These compromise the means of subsistence, habitation, clothing, and defence."

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    In 1791, Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton wrote in his famous Report on Manufactures:

    "The wealth ... independence, and security of a Country, appear to be materially connected with the prosperity of manufactures. Every nation ... ought to endeavor to possess within itself all the essentials of national supply. These compromise the means of subsistence, habitation, clothing, and defence."

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:01 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    What was the topic again???

    Oh yeah,, tariffs and jobs losses.............

    The U.S. economic growth accelerated to an annual rate of 4.1% in the second quarter..

    The Trump Tariffs are working!

    Under President Trump the GDP-- .1% is higher today than the unemployment rate-- 4.0%.....so it looks like he's doing something right ..or after 17 months is this still due to Obama's actions ?


    Dude do you ever get tired of trolling ?

    Trump inherited a stable economy.  

    How many jobs were being lost when Trump took over on 20-January-2018 ?

    How many High ranking Democrats stated that they want Trump to fail ?

    I see Obama still lives in your head for free.

    When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) slumped to 7,949.09, the lowest inaugural performance for the Dow since its creation.


    But Deplorables like you believe that Trup doubled up the stock market .

    Now Trump Tariffs are working .

    If the tariffs are working then
    why does the US Department of Agriculture provide 12 billion dollars in "emergency farm" aid to farmers and ranchers hurt by the tariffs imposed on US products.

    That's borrowed money from the U.S. Treasury to pay producers of corn, soybeans, dairy, pork, wheat, sorghum and cotton.

    what about the deficit ?

    12 billions won't cover the damage already done and more to vome

    Farmers urged Trump to settle the trade disputes with China, Mexico, Canada and the European Union and get the commerce flowing again.  

    Wisconsin lost 500 dairy farms in 2017, and about 150 have quit milking cows so far this year, putting the total number of milk-cow herds at around 7,600 — down 20 percent from five years ago.

    Dairy farmer Bob Roden of West Bend agrees that trade deals are better than government aid.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/2018/07/25/farmers-say-trumps-12-billion-farm-aid-wont-cover-their-losses-trade-war/836140002/





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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    What was the topic again???

    Oh yeah,, tariffs and jobs losses.............

    The U.S. economic growth accelerated to an annual rate of 4.1% in the second quarter..

    The Trump Tariffs are working!

    Under President Trump the GDP-- .1% is higher today than the unemployment rate-- 4.0%.....so it looks like he's doing something right ..or after 17 months is this still due to Obama's actions ?


    Dude do you ever get tired of trolling ?

    Trump inherited a stable economy.  

    How many jobs were being lost when Trump took over on 20-January-2018 ?

    How many High ranking Democrats stated that they want Trump to fail ?

    I see Obama still lives in your head for free.

    When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) slumped to 7,949.09, the lowest inaugural performance for the Dow since its creation.


    But Deplorables like you believe that Trup doubled up the stock market .

    Now Trump Tariffs are working .

    If the tariffs are working then
    why does the US Department of Agriculture provide 12 billion dollars in "emergency farm" aid to farmers and ranchers hurt by the tariffs imposed on US products.

    That's borrowed money from the U.S. Treasury to pay producers of corn, soybeans, dairy, pork, wheat, sorghum and cotton.

    what about the deficit ?

    12 billions won't cover the damage already done and more to vome

    Farmers urged Trump to settle the trade disputes with China, Mexico, Canada and the European Union and get the commerce flowing again.  

    Wisconsin lost 500 dairy farms in 2017, and about 150 have quit milking cows so far this year, putting the total number of milk-cow herds at around 7,600 — down 20 percent from five years ago.

    Dairy farmer Bob Roden of West Bend agrees that trade deals are better than government aid.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/2018/07/25/farmers-say-trumps-12-billion-farm-aid-wont-cover-their-losses-trade-war/836140002/





     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:03 AM ET #20

    "on 20-January-2017" should read "on 20-January-2018" 
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    "on 20-January-2018" should read "on 20-January-2017" 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    3.5M less people on Food Stamps than 2 years ago. GDP 4.1 at 2nd quarter of 2018. How many times has that happened this century? I remember the new normal was 2.0 according to BO and the gang.

    Of course everything isn't going to be perfect but the bottomline is there's no doubt that MAGA is working just fine. Sorry about that nail company. You're weeping allover yourself eh? 70,000 plants closed before Trump, you really care about any one of them? 


    Foods stamp Enrollment peaked at 47.6 million in 2013, up from 28.2 million in 2008.
    Since Trump's inauguration in January 2017, the rolls have shrunk by just over 3 million, according to US Department of Agriculture data. Some 39.6 million Americans received food stamps as of April 2018, the latest figures available.
    Enrollment dropped by 3.5 million between 2013 and 2016.


    The US economy added 2.7 million jobs in 2015 and 2.3 million in 2016. It added 2.2 million last year and is on pace for 2.6 million this year.

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    3.5M less people on Food Stamps than 2 years ago. GDP 4.1 at 2nd quarter of 2018. How many times has that happened this century? I remember the new normal was 2.0 according to BO and the gang.

    Of course everything isn't going to be perfect but the bottomline is there's no doubt that MAGA is working just fine. Sorry about that nail company. You're weeping allover yourself eh? 70,000 plants closed before Trump, you really care about any one of them? 


    Foods stamp Enrollment peaked at 47.6 million in 2013, up from 28.2 million in 2008.
    Since Trump's inauguration in January 2017, the rolls have shrunk by just over 3 million, according to US Department of Agriculture data. Some 39.6 million Americans received food stamps as of April 2018, the latest figures available.
    Enrollment dropped by 3.5 million between 2013 and 2016.


    The US economy added 2.7 million jobs in 2015 and 2.3 million in 2016. It added 2.2 million last year and is on pace for 2.6 million this year.

     
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    i dont get the part about January.

    confused

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    i dont get the part about January.

    confused

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:



    Dude do you ever get tired of trolling ?

    Trump inherited a stable economy.  

    How many jobs were being lost when Trump took over on 20-January-2018 ?

    How many High ranking Democrats stated that they want Trump to fail ?

    I see Obama still lives in your head for free.

    When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) slumped to 7,949.09, the lowest inaugural performance for the Dow since its creation.


    But Deplorables like you believe that Trup doubled up the stock market .

    Now Trump Tariffs are working .

    If the tariffs are working then
    why does the US Department of Agriculture provide 12 billion dollars in "emergency farm" aid to farmers and ranchers hurt by the tariffs imposed on US products.

    That's borrowed money from the U.S. Treasury to pay producers of corn, soybeans, dairy, pork, wheat, sorghum and cotton.

    what about the deficit ?

    12 billions won't cover the damage already done and more to vome

    Farmers urged Trump to settle the trade disputes with China, Mexico, Canada and the European Union and get the commerce flowing again.  

    Wisconsin lost 500 dairy farms in 2017, and about 150 have quit milking cows so far this year, putting the total number of milk-cow herds at around 7,600 — down 20 percent from five years ago.

    Dairy farmer Bob Roden of West Bend agrees that trade deals are better than government aid.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/2018/07/25/farmers-say-trumps-12-billion-farm-aid-wont-cover-their-losses-trade-war/836140002/



    Most of Obama's economic achievements financed by the Federal Reserve..and most of those Obama newly created jobs were part-time or low wage.......
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    Dude do you ever get tired of trolling ?

    Trump inherited a stable economy.  

    How many jobs were being lost when Trump took over on 20-January-2018 ?

    How many High ranking Democrats stated that they want Trump to fail ?

    I see Obama still lives in your head for free.

    When President Obama took office on Jan. 20, 2009, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) slumped to 7,949.09, the lowest inaugural performance for the Dow since its creation.


    But Deplorables like you believe that Trup doubled up the stock market .

    Now Trump Tariffs are working .

    If the tariffs are working then
    why does the US Department of Agriculture provide 12 billion dollars in "emergency farm" aid to farmers and ranchers hurt by the tariffs imposed on US products.

    That's borrowed money from the U.S. Treasury to pay producers of corn, soybeans, dairy, pork, wheat, sorghum and cotton.

    what about the deficit ?

    12 billions won't cover the damage already done and more to vome

    Farmers urged Trump to settle the trade disputes with China, Mexico, Canada and the European Union and get the commerce flowing again.  

    Wisconsin lost 500 dairy farms in 2017, and about 150 have quit milking cows so far this year, putting the total number of milk-cow herds at around 7,600 — down 20 percent from five years ago.

    Dairy farmer Bob Roden of West Bend agrees that trade deals are better than government aid.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/money/2018/07/25/farmers-say-trumps-12-billion-farm-aid-wont-cover-their-losses-trade-war/836140002/



    Most of Obama's economic achievements financed by the Federal Reserve..and most of those Obama newly created jobs were part-time or low wage.......
     
     
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