i'm calling shennanegins on this one. Bears are the only 3-0 team in the AFC and the giants public stock is very low after back to back blowouts, but there are other issues afoot which are pushing me towards the giants...
g-men will be fired up to play the only undefeated team in their conference and the coaches will spend a LOT of time perfecting a solid game plan against this top tier team.
some variables at work:
CJ ran for 125, but on 32 carries, so the giants held him under 4 yards per carry, no small feat. I think that an inferior bears running attack will struggle to maintain an offensive balance which will put this game on cutler's back and while he could do it, I still see him throwing at least one pick and the Bears have looked vulnerable to a pass rush which will make mistakes more likely as he continues to take hits. Just look at how hard detroit made it on him in week one and i know detroit's d-line is improved, but it's not in the conversation as the giants personnel on d-line.
Giants played a very good pass defense who capitalized on some sloppy play, but it's not like the giants couldn't do anything. I saw a eli manning throw for 386 yards on an elite secondary with a lot of pressure and a giants squad run for 105 on 19 carries, looking very good in the run game, but lacked opportunities to maintain their success on the ground due to 2 hugely costly turnovers that did not allow them to stay in the game late and forced them to keep throwing as they played on their heels. If eli doesn't get cute at the goal line having delusions of brett favre that game could have a very different complexion.
They are still an elite offense, and I think that they have enough working for them on defense to get an inspired home effort that makes the difference. It's not time to write them off yet. I believe in their offense more than i believe in chicago's still and their defense isn't inferior enough at relevant positions to be enough of an edge to overcome the giant's offense.
I like betting on the home team off a home loss, and i love betting the team off a big in division home win, especially beating a team everyone picked to play the cowboys in the NFC title game.
The Bear's stock is too high and the Giants stock is too low for that spread to mean anything other than vegas is making another highly calculated risk, claiming that the giants will beat the bears by a touchdown, and knowing what I know about this matchup, I believe them.
I will wait before booking it and just research the little things, but I think i'm going
GIANTS -4
you hit it right on the head, the bears cant handle a solid pass rush. The Giants will force turnovers on Sunday Night and will win at home....
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Quote Originally Posted by wangichu:
i'm calling shennanegins on this one. Bears are the only 3-0 team in the AFC and the giants public stock is very low after back to back blowouts, but there are other issues afoot which are pushing me towards the giants...
g-men will be fired up to play the only undefeated team in their conference and the coaches will spend a LOT of time perfecting a solid game plan against this top tier team.
some variables at work:
CJ ran for 125, but on 32 carries, so the giants held him under 4 yards per carry, no small feat. I think that an inferior bears running attack will struggle to maintain an offensive balance which will put this game on cutler's back and while he could do it, I still see him throwing at least one pick and the Bears have looked vulnerable to a pass rush which will make mistakes more likely as he continues to take hits. Just look at how hard detroit made it on him in week one and i know detroit's d-line is improved, but it's not in the conversation as the giants personnel on d-line.
Giants played a very good pass defense who capitalized on some sloppy play, but it's not like the giants couldn't do anything. I saw a eli manning throw for 386 yards on an elite secondary with a lot of pressure and a giants squad run for 105 on 19 carries, looking very good in the run game, but lacked opportunities to maintain their success on the ground due to 2 hugely costly turnovers that did not allow them to stay in the game late and forced them to keep throwing as they played on their heels. If eli doesn't get cute at the goal line having delusions of brett favre that game could have a very different complexion.
They are still an elite offense, and I think that they have enough working for them on defense to get an inspired home effort that makes the difference. It's not time to write them off yet. I believe in their offense more than i believe in chicago's still and their defense isn't inferior enough at relevant positions to be enough of an edge to overcome the giant's offense.
I like betting on the home team off a home loss, and i love betting the team off a big in division home win, especially beating a team everyone picked to play the cowboys in the NFC title game.
The Bear's stock is too high and the Giants stock is too low for that spread to mean anything other than vegas is making another highly calculated risk, claiming that the giants will beat the bears by a touchdown, and knowing what I know about this matchup, I believe them.
I will wait before booking it and just research the little things, but I think i'm going
GIANTS -4
you hit it right on the head, the bears cant handle a solid pass rush. The Giants will force turnovers on Sunday Night and will win at home....
G-Men roll.....Dont fall in love with the Bears just yet....G-men cover this game and the Dolphins win s/u monday night....laugh now b/c ill be cashing in later...
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G-Men roll.....Dont fall in love with the Bears just yet....G-men cover this game and the Dolphins win s/u monday night....laugh now b/c ill be cashing in later...
Im a Chicago guy and LOVVVVVVVEEEEEE my Bears....BUT they dont pay my bills and I know a trap game when I see one....reasons why they keep building hundred million $$ casinos in Vegas with the economy in the toilet....public pounding the Bears....forgive me superfanssssssss but NYG LARGE
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Im a Chicago guy and LOVVVVVVVEEEEEE my Bears....BUT they dont pay my bills and I know a trap game when I see one....reasons why they keep building hundred million $$ casinos in Vegas with the economy in the toilet....public pounding the Bears....forgive me superfanssssssss but NYG LARGE
Cutler's luck runs out in this one. Bears D will keep it close for a bit, but the Bears love to turn the ball over and Forte is getting worse by the game.
G-Men make a couple big plays late and put the game (and ridiculously small number) away.
Giants 24-13
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Cutler's luck runs out in this one. Bears D will keep it close for a bit, but the Bears love to turn the ball over and Forte is getting worse by the game.
G-Men make a couple big plays late and put the game (and ridiculously small number) away.
I gotta sick wit it, after watching Chicago force turnovers and capitolize on them and with Url' and Pepp'..............Double stuff Manning loves to throw the ball away!
Bears +4!
sm play ML!
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I gotta sick wit it, after watching Chicago force turnovers and capitolize on them and with Url' and Pepp'..............Double stuff Manning loves to throw the ball away!
CHICAGO is 0-12 ATS away vs nfc non div opp off non div su ats loss. They are 0-11 ATS if above 500 vs opp off bb su losses.they are 0-9 dogs ATS 6 points or less vs opp off bb losses.And CHICAGO is 0-9 dogs ATS vs non div opp off a su fav loss GMEN lost to the TITANS last week they were -3.BEARS are 0-9 ATS 0ff bb su wins of 10pts or less vs non div opp with revenge GMEN beat them in 2007 21-16.Stats and trends are from Marc Lawrence black book 2010.
GMEN with a late cover JCUT going to make a pick 6 late in the game 31-20 NY FOOTBALL GIANTS ROLL.
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Quote Originally Posted by greek04champs:
CHICAGO is 0-12 ATS away vs nfc non div opp off non div su ats loss. They are 0-11 ATS if above 500 vs opp off bb su losses.they are 0-9 dogs ATS 6 points or less vs opp off bb losses.And CHICAGO is 0-9 dogs ATS vs non div opp off a su fav loss GMEN lost to the TITANS last week they were -3.BEARS are 0-9 ATS 0ff bb su wins of 10pts or less vs non div opp with revenge GMEN beat them in 2007 21-16.Stats and trends are from Marc Lawrence black book 2010.
GMEN with a late cover JCUT going to make a pick 6 late in the game 31-20 NY FOOTBALL GIANTS ROLL.
I want to take the bears but no fuckin way these guys gonna go undefeated. and it very well be a trap. only thing that scares me is giants cant fuckin score.
so I gotta lay off this one and watch to see how id do bears and under-defensive game on primetime
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I want to take the bears but no fuckin way these guys gonna go undefeated. and it very well be a trap. only thing that scares me is giants cant fuckin score.
so I gotta lay off this one and watch to see how id do bears and under-defensive game on primetime
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