[Quote: Originally Posted by purple_stars] Damn yo,brady str8 fire wit that arm but he stole that last game they had so karma is a biach yo. 34-41 Denver final.sry Brady u da man and all but u got rings already!!! [/Quote
Wtf! English M-fer.....do you speak it!
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[Quote: Originally Posted by purple_stars] Damn yo,brady str8 fire wit that arm but he stole that last game they had so karma is a biach yo. 34-41 Denver final.sry Brady u da man and all but u got rings already!!! [/Quote
Tom Brady is 7 - 0 AGAINST jACK DEL RIO DEFENSES ... take the points!!!
Wow ! I heard this as well. Think I'll put more money down on the Pats ML. Jack Del Rio is a horrible D coach and with his key defenders out, this has NE ML written all over it.
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Quote Originally Posted by HEAVY-METAL:
Tom Brady is 7 - 0 AGAINST jACK DEL RIO DEFENSES ... take the points!!!
Wow ! I heard this as well. Think I'll put more money down on the Pats ML. Jack Del Rio is a horrible D coach and with his key defenders out, this has NE ML written all over it.
I see a lot of people talking about how Brady NE teams have historically beat Peyton teams but only because Brady had the coaches and was surrounded by talent. I argue that Brady helps make those talents (Welker looked better as a Pat). Peyton has the Offensive weapons at his disposal this one around but its the D that always lets him down and will continue to lets him down. I'm not sure why people look at how NE won their last game and think well see the same thing twice from those guys because they keep saying they use what wins. I kind of think they will lay off the run and throw it more.
Another big point I want to bring up is that the Pats don't make the big glaring mistakes that the Broncos make every night. If the Pats won't "melt down" can't say the same about the Broncos.
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I see a lot of people talking about how Brady NE teams have historically beat Peyton teams but only because Brady had the coaches and was surrounded by talent. I argue that Brady helps make those talents (Welker looked better as a Pat). Peyton has the Offensive weapons at his disposal this one around but its the D that always lets him down and will continue to lets him down. I'm not sure why people look at how NE won their last game and think well see the same thing twice from those guys because they keep saying they use what wins. I kind of think they will lay off the run and throw it more.
Another big point I want to bring up is that the Pats don't make the big glaring mistakes that the Broncos make every night. If the Pats won't "melt down" can't say the same about the Broncos.
They say defenses win championships? Well if that's the case then in this AFC matchup, Devner has the slight advantage. Then again if you can't score then it doesn't even matter how good your defense is. Luckily this isn't a real problem for either teams but the honestly, Denver has WAY more weapons than NE does right now.
So why the hell is this line so damn high? I mean come on now, NE beat Denver already this year but it was due to a freak kickoff return ball hitting Welker and not giving Manning that very possible chance to win that game and cover the ending spread. I pegged this game to be at -3 as soon as Denver clinched the SD game.
Everyone thinks Vegas is stupid and they're gonna give you guys a "gift", especially towards the END of the football season. There's only 4 games left including the Probowl. I'm sure everyone was slamming Carolina last week and saw how Vegas made it look tempting and sure enough 9ers won outright, easily. The safest bet was my strongest call last week and that was the Under for that game. Seeing how many people are POUNDING NE, this line should've been driven down to the -3 that I originally thought it would've been. These guys are PROS and make millions while Vegas steals millions from all of us so called "professional wannabe handicappers".
This game is scary to call, but percentage wise it'd be safer to take Denver ML. Broncos had the 24pt lead at half last time and if their defense kept up and their coach didn't decide to play it safe by playing prevent defense the 2nd half, they would've routed NE. This time around they have Julias Thomas back and their offense is back to full strength while NE found a running game which they will have to abandon and turn back the arm of Brady once they find themselves down more than a TD. The bad thing for the Broncos is that they lost their star cornerback, but that helps to point for the OVER.
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They say defenses win championships? Well if that's the case then in this AFC matchup, Devner has the slight advantage. Then again if you can't score then it doesn't even matter how good your defense is. Luckily this isn't a real problem for either teams but the honestly, Denver has WAY more weapons than NE does right now.
So why the hell is this line so damn high? I mean come on now, NE beat Denver already this year but it was due to a freak kickoff return ball hitting Welker and not giving Manning that very possible chance to win that game and cover the ending spread. I pegged this game to be at -3 as soon as Denver clinched the SD game.
Everyone thinks Vegas is stupid and they're gonna give you guys a "gift", especially towards the END of the football season. There's only 4 games left including the Probowl. I'm sure everyone was slamming Carolina last week and saw how Vegas made it look tempting and sure enough 9ers won outright, easily. The safest bet was my strongest call last week and that was the Under for that game. Seeing how many people are POUNDING NE, this line should've been driven down to the -3 that I originally thought it would've been. These guys are PROS and make millions while Vegas steals millions from all of us so called "professional wannabe handicappers".
This game is scary to call, but percentage wise it'd be safer to take Denver ML. Broncos had the 24pt lead at half last time and if their defense kept up and their coach didn't decide to play it safe by playing prevent defense the 2nd half, they would've routed NE. This time around they have Julias Thomas back and their offense is back to full strength while NE found a running game which they will have to abandon and turn back the arm of Brady once they find themselves down more than a TD. The bad thing for the Broncos is that they lost their star cornerback, but that helps to point for the OVER.
I love that everyone and their mother is jumping on the Pats and saying how Denver melts down.
Have you seen how many games the Pats had to come back just to eek out the win this year? This also includes the game against the Broncos.
You can only do that so many times before it finally catches up to you, and what a game to have that possibly happen. It kinda all points towards it.
Also, to all the people who haven't learned and will be learning the hard way of having empty wallets, DON'T LISTEN TO ALL THE CRAP ON ESPN! Those guys are all idiots and will get you to lose more money than you will ever win. They always tend to give you some pointless stats and end up swaying your original pick and screwing you in the end.
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I love that everyone and their mother is jumping on the Pats and saying how Denver melts down.
Have you seen how many games the Pats had to come back just to eek out the win this year? This also includes the game against the Broncos.
You can only do that so many times before it finally catches up to you, and what a game to have that possibly happen. It kinda all points towards it.
Also, to all the people who haven't learned and will be learning the hard way of having empty wallets, DON'T LISTEN TO ALL THE CRAP ON ESPN! Those guys are all idiots and will get you to lose more money than you will ever win. They always tend to give you some pointless stats and end up swaying your original pick and screwing you in the end.
What is Brady's record playing in the thin Denver air? 2-4 but they would have been living in Denver the last week to get accustomed to the thin air (as long as they stay out of the Denver smoke they should be alright ). This explains Brady's flu (the air not the smoke lol). There's a big difference between flying up that mountain and playing one game and living there for a week. I've been trying to search how long it takes athletes to adjust to the Denver air and I can't find anything to suggest that the worst of it would take longer that a week, but I'm no expert and the info was vague at best so if anyone has good credible facts on the duration of altitude sickness I'd love to read it. I overlooked this factor and I think it could affect the game. I have been able to find out that some people get hit harder by altitude sickness than others and with Brady's history in Denver I worry he may be that guy. BOLTA
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What is Brady's record playing in the thin Denver air? 2-4 but they would have been living in Denver the last week to get accustomed to the thin air (as long as they stay out of the Denver smoke they should be alright ). This explains Brady's flu (the air not the smoke lol). There's a big difference between flying up that mountain and playing one game and living there for a week. I've been trying to search how long it takes athletes to adjust to the Denver air and I can't find anything to suggest that the worst of it would take longer that a week, but I'm no expert and the info was vague at best so if anyone has good credible facts on the duration of altitude sickness I'd love to read it. I overlooked this factor and I think it could affect the game. I have been able to find out that some people get hit harder by altitude sickness than others and with Brady's history in Denver I worry he may be that guy. BOLTA
They say defenses win championships? Well if that's the case then in this AFC matchup, Devner has the slight advantage. Then again if you can't score then it doesn't even matter how good your defense is. Luckily this isn't a real problem for either teams but the honestly, Denver has WAY more weapons than NE does right now.
So why the hell is this line so damn high? I mean come on now, NE beat Denver already this year but it was due to a freak kickoff return ball hitting Welker and not giving Manning that very possible chance to win that game and cover the ending spread. I pegged this game to be at -3 as soon as Denver clinched the SD game.
Everyone thinks Vegas is stupid and they're gonna give you guys a "gift", especially towards the END of the football season. There's only 4 games left including the Probowl. I'm sure everyone was slamming Carolina last week and saw how Vegas made it look tempting and sure enough 9ers won outright, easily. The safest bet was my strongest call last week and that was the Under for that game. Seeing how many people are POUNDING NE, this line should've been driven down to the -3 that I originally thought it would've been. These guys are PROS and make millions while Vegas steals millions from all of us so called "professional wannabe handicappers".
This game is scary to call, but percentage wise it'd be safer to take Denver ML. Broncos had the 24pt lead at half last time and if their defense kept up and their coach didn't decide to play it safe by playing prevent defense the 2nd half, they would've routed NE. This time around they have Julias Thomas back and their offense is back to full strength while NE found a running game which they will have to abandon and turn back the arm of Brady once they find themselves down more than a TD. The bad thing for the Broncos is that they lost their star cornerback, but that helps to point for the OVER.
Denver defence has the advantage even with the injuries? Denver's D can win them a championship? Please explain with stats, comparisons, potential match ups, etc because if I missed something there then I'm way off. Thanks and BOLTY
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Quote Originally Posted by Xyberz:
They say defenses win championships? Well if that's the case then in this AFC matchup, Devner has the slight advantage. Then again if you can't score then it doesn't even matter how good your defense is. Luckily this isn't a real problem for either teams but the honestly, Denver has WAY more weapons than NE does right now.
So why the hell is this line so damn high? I mean come on now, NE beat Denver already this year but it was due to a freak kickoff return ball hitting Welker and not giving Manning that very possible chance to win that game and cover the ending spread. I pegged this game to be at -3 as soon as Denver clinched the SD game.
Everyone thinks Vegas is stupid and they're gonna give you guys a "gift", especially towards the END of the football season. There's only 4 games left including the Probowl. I'm sure everyone was slamming Carolina last week and saw how Vegas made it look tempting and sure enough 9ers won outright, easily. The safest bet was my strongest call last week and that was the Under for that game. Seeing how many people are POUNDING NE, this line should've been driven down to the -3 that I originally thought it would've been. These guys are PROS and make millions while Vegas steals millions from all of us so called "professional wannabe handicappers".
This game is scary to call, but percentage wise it'd be safer to take Denver ML. Broncos had the 24pt lead at half last time and if their defense kept up and their coach didn't decide to play it safe by playing prevent defense the 2nd half, they would've routed NE. This time around they have Julias Thomas back and their offense is back to full strength while NE found a running game which they will have to abandon and turn back the arm of Brady once they find themselves down more than a TD. The bad thing for the Broncos is that they lost their star cornerback, but that helps to point for the OVER.
Denver defence has the advantage even with the injuries? Denver's D can win them a championship? Please explain with stats, comparisons, potential match ups, etc because if I missed something there then I'm way off. Thanks and BOLTY
To be frank there's no value betting this game, the line is right which has been shown all week with it hovering around the same number. The real value would be betting either of the nfc teams to demolish the patriots if they somehow get past this game. I honestly don't think the pats could score 10 points on either denver or sf. I'm getting ahead of myself though, denver should win.
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To be frank there's no value betting this game, the line is right which has been shown all week with it hovering around the same number. The real value would be betting either of the nfc teams to demolish the patriots if they somehow get past this game. I honestly don't think the pats could score 10 points on either denver or sf. I'm getting ahead of myself though, denver should win.
so 6 hrs away from kickoff would like to hear some insight on which direction the line moves from here -5 right now Im leaning pats should i pull the trigger now or take my chances to try to get it at 6 any thoughts would be appreciated thnx
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so 6 hrs away from kickoff would like to hear some insight on which direction the line moves from here -5 right now Im leaning pats should i pull the trigger now or take my chances to try to get it at 6 any thoughts would be appreciated thnx
Wow ! I heard this as well. Think I'll put more money down on the Pats ML. Jack Del Rio is a horrible D coach and with his key defenders out, this has NE ML written all over it.
Before doing so Brother Dog, Ask yourself which Butt Phooked team Vanessa Del Rio was coaching throughout .
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Consider Coach Fox was a master defensive coordinator before head coaching Broncs.
Fox has last D word , certainly not Del Rio .
Now Name me remaining playoff teams that have historically struggled on the road ?
Making matters worst...
Ask yourself when was the last time 2014 Pats D have played in Mile High , thin air Frenzy ?
Hope Hoodie Knows how to give mouth to mouth.
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Quote Originally Posted by UHQB:
Wow ! I heard this as well. Think I'll put more money down on the Pats ML. Jack Del Rio is a horrible D coach and with his key defenders out, this has NE ML written all over it.
Before doing so Brother Dog, Ask yourself which Butt Phooked team Vanessa Del Rio was coaching throughout .
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Consider Coach Fox was a master defensive coordinator before head coaching Broncs.
Fox has last D word , certainly not Del Rio .
Now Name me remaining playoff teams that have historically struggled on the road ?
Making matters worst...
Ask yourself when was the last time 2014 Pats D have played in Mile High , thin air Frenzy ?
Denver defence has the advantage even with the injuries? Denver's D can win them a championship? Please explain with stats, comparisons, potential match ups, etc because if I missed something there then I'm way off. Thanks and BOLTY
You can look at the last 3 game stats or even the overall season defensive stats right here on Covers. Denver edges out NE in overall yards by at least 20 per game.
Denver has now all 4 receivers healthy, which are ALL top 10 in TD receptions this year. I like that teams are overlooking Denver's rushing game which is above average.
Let's look at NE's stats in offense. You have to look all the way down to #30 to find any NE receiver in TD's this year and it's Edelman. Also overall, Moreno is a better and more reliable back than Blount is. In comparison top 50 backs, 17 vs 27 (Ridley) & 32 (Blount).
Also Blount brokeout at home, not really on the road. Review the games they've played this year, including the last 3 and you'll find this to be true.
If you wanna see rush defense for the postseason so far, NE and Denver take both second to and last place. Of course you can't deny that NE is #1 and Denver is 6th and right in the middle in rushing offense. But let's look at what's important here, Denver is a shootout team hence the record breaking 55TDs. Rushing is ONLY good if you got the lead and even a 5 yr old Madden playing kid can tell you this. If somehow NE gets down 24 points again, you think they're gonna pound the ball rushing?!?!?!? NO, they will HAVE to rely on Brady which is supposedly having one of his WORST seasons ever against THE best offense season ever in the history of the NFL.
I'm sure Manning and Fox knows they can't let off the gas when taking the lead knowing that even as decimated the NE offense is, can come back and win. Now we all can't predict freak plays that ended their last game, but we don't see those in every game now do we? Yes Denver's defense blew it the 2nd half last time and it was difficult to rev your engines back up after taking such a large lead and seeing the opposition come back that strong.
P.S. Brady is much better in the playoffs at home than he is on the road as most teams are.
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Quote Originally Posted by JDaggz:
Denver defence has the advantage even with the injuries? Denver's D can win them a championship? Please explain with stats, comparisons, potential match ups, etc because if I missed something there then I'm way off. Thanks and BOLTY
You can look at the last 3 game stats or even the overall season defensive stats right here on Covers. Denver edges out NE in overall yards by at least 20 per game.
Denver has now all 4 receivers healthy, which are ALL top 10 in TD receptions this year. I like that teams are overlooking Denver's rushing game which is above average.
Let's look at NE's stats in offense. You have to look all the way down to #30 to find any NE receiver in TD's this year and it's Edelman. Also overall, Moreno is a better and more reliable back than Blount is. In comparison top 50 backs, 17 vs 27 (Ridley) & 32 (Blount).
Also Blount brokeout at home, not really on the road. Review the games they've played this year, including the last 3 and you'll find this to be true.
If you wanna see rush defense for the postseason so far, NE and Denver take both second to and last place. Of course you can't deny that NE is #1 and Denver is 6th and right in the middle in rushing offense. But let's look at what's important here, Denver is a shootout team hence the record breaking 55TDs. Rushing is ONLY good if you got the lead and even a 5 yr old Madden playing kid can tell you this. If somehow NE gets down 24 points again, you think they're gonna pound the ball rushing?!?!?!? NO, they will HAVE to rely on Brady which is supposedly having one of his WORST seasons ever against THE best offense season ever in the history of the NFL.
I'm sure Manning and Fox knows they can't let off the gas when taking the lead knowing that even as decimated the NE offense is, can come back and win. Now we all can't predict freak plays that ended their last game, but we don't see those in every game now do we? Yes Denver's defense blew it the 2nd half last time and it was difficult to rev your engines back up after taking such a large lead and seeing the opposition come back that strong.
P.S. Brady is much better in the playoffs at home than he is on the road as most teams are.
So crappy that you can't go back and edit to add or remove stuff you just posted.
Anyway if Denver takes the lead again, it'll be one of those scenarios where they'll keep it covering the spread the WHOLE game until that last minute Brady TD comes back to cover but not win.
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If Denver is down, they will come back in the end on their last drive to win.
Taking the points is scary for me. Because if NE isn't already taking the lead, I can't count on Brady as much to make it back to cover the spread this year like I could the last few years. Down by 10 with a 2 minute drive to cover, 50/50 chance this year if it comes down to that for NE.
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So crappy that you can't go back and edit to add or remove stuff you just posted.
Anyway if Denver takes the lead again, it'll be one of those scenarios where they'll keep it covering the spread the WHOLE game until that last minute Brady TD comes back to cover but not win.
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If Denver is down, they will come back in the end on their last drive to win.
Taking the points is scary for me. Because if NE isn't already taking the lead, I can't count on Brady as much to make it back to cover the spread this year like I could the last few years. Down by 10 with a 2 minute drive to cover, 50/50 chance this year if it comes down to that for NE.
This is Peyton Manning's year. Hands down. He is on a mission to prove something, and as much as I hate to see Pats NOT go to the Superbowl, I feel Manning will get his final Superbowl ring.
I'll be cheering for Manning against Brady and then eventually against Seattle in Superbowl XLVIII.
BOL to all
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This is Peyton Manning's year. Hands down. He is on a mission to prove something, and as much as I hate to see Pats NOT go to the Superbowl, I feel Manning will get his final Superbowl ring.
I'll be cheering for Manning against Brady and then eventually against Seattle in Superbowl XLVIII.
The play here is the under. The only way to stop a potent offense is to keep them off the field. I think that'll be the play in this game. Patriots coaching staff are very smart @ game planning. Money line I would take NE, because they embrace the 'dog role. Current OU BT 68% over, 32% under.
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The play here is the under. The only way to stop a potent offense is to keep them off the field. I think that'll be the play in this game. Patriots coaching staff are very smart @ game planning. Money line I would take NE, because they embrace the 'dog role. Current OU BT 68% over, 32% under.
Please tell me how Pats are going to have the same motivation IN DENVER???
Patriots and colts patriots offense are deadly and remember idk why everyone is saying the patriots will only score 20 points the broncos defense are one of the worst why do you think everyone is betting the over and finally the patriots help on the running game the last game at new England the punt returner fumbled the ball that's why the patriots beat the broncos recently Denver wont have that mistake again brady is the most consistent qb in the nfl and even all time whenever hes healthy most likely there going to the afc but I wouldn't count manning out hes going to have a good game but I think defense wins this game that's why im taking the patriots
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Quote Originally Posted by best_bets:
Please tell me how Pats are going to have the same motivation IN DENVER???
Patriots and colts patriots offense are deadly and remember idk why everyone is saying the patriots will only score 20 points the broncos defense are one of the worst why do you think everyone is betting the over and finally the patriots help on the running game the last game at new England the punt returner fumbled the ball that's why the patriots beat the broncos recently Denver wont have that mistake again brady is the most consistent qb in the nfl and even all time whenever hes healthy most likely there going to the afc but I wouldn't count manning out hes going to have a good game but I think defense wins this game that's why im taking the patriots
Tough games today gents. What to do? I think of the two that the Denver game is an easier one to call.
I like the Broncos to win by 7+ and I think a lot of you will lose your NE bet because you get hung up on past results which have absolutely nothing to do with today's game. I'll take Peyton at home in the Mile High against a team that simply doesn't have the weapons and options this year. Great job by Brady and Belli coaching this year, but it ends today.
As for the Niners game. This one is tough. I'm taking SF but I might regret it bc Seatlle is good. I just think SF is destined and Russell will make some mistakes today. Seattle's secondary better hope they get to mug the opposing receivers like they have all year, but if not they will be in trouble. At the end of the day, Seattle is a little overrated in my opinion and SF hates them more than Seattle hates them:) Tough to call but I can't stand Pete Carroll after what he did to USC so my emotions are coming into to play so don't heed my advice here boys:)
At least I'm honest about it:) Take Dener til your hands bleed though-that's easy money.
GLA!!
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Tough games today gents. What to do? I think of the two that the Denver game is an easier one to call.
I like the Broncos to win by 7+ and I think a lot of you will lose your NE bet because you get hung up on past results which have absolutely nothing to do with today's game. I'll take Peyton at home in the Mile High against a team that simply doesn't have the weapons and options this year. Great job by Brady and Belli coaching this year, but it ends today.
As for the Niners game. This one is tough. I'm taking SF but I might regret it bc Seatlle is good. I just think SF is destined and Russell will make some mistakes today. Seattle's secondary better hope they get to mug the opposing receivers like they have all year, but if not they will be in trouble. At the end of the day, Seattle is a little overrated in my opinion and SF hates them more than Seattle hates them:) Tough to call but I can't stand Pete Carroll after what he did to USC so my emotions are coming into to play so don't heed my advice here boys:)
At least I'm honest about it:) Take Dener til your hands bleed though-that's easy money.
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