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I believe wind and wind chill will have a factor in this game and I even put my hard earned sheckles on as you can see....
If this game were in the Superdome the o/u would be 48 or more...I am only playing the under on the weather and the fact that the Bears have to play ball control to win, and can do that very well with Forte and short passes by Orton. All these factors contributed to my decision.

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There have been alot of good comments here and respect everyones opinion.    One comment I don't agree with is the weather not having any affect on the game.   I have been playing the odds on sporting events, football primarily for the last 30 years and in all of my decisions are based in part to the weather conditions.    I have also played some college ball and weather has been a factor in 25 of the 35 games I played.    Wind, Rain, Snow, Cold etc......    I remember one game in particular when it was about 28 degrees and our quarterback could not grip the ball and receivers dropped about 10 balls due to the cold weather.   So to say that weather will not affect a game I have to disagree.    Don't get me wrong though I never soley base my decisions on weather alone but it is a factor.   My prediction on this game would be with the Bears and the under here.     This is based on the weather, defenses, and the fact that New Orleans plays horrible on the road on grass.   
 
Bears  20   -    Saints   13
 
Take it for what it is worth and this is only my opinion.
 
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I haven't committed to either side yet, but reading through this forum I see a lot of support for the Bears.  Let make a few points:

What about the fact that the Saints' offense is far and away better than the Bears'?  Brees finally has all his weapons back, and we've seen how good he is when his team is healthy.

Being used to "playing in the cold" doesn't make as big a difference as everyone thinks.  I can think of numerous examples...  the time Mike Vick came into Lambeau and beat Brett Favre in the freezing cold in the playoffs about 5 years ago... last year, Jaguars go to Pittsburgh for their playoff game and cover despite freezing temperatures and everybody predicting that the Jags couldn't play in the cold.  The cold doesn't necessarily win games for whoever's from the colder city.

The Bears offense really, really stinks, and their win over the Jags was not that impressive if you watched the game... the Jags are pretty awful. 

Defense, however, is on the Bears side, and we all know that wins games... but is it that good?  and can the Bears offense really crush the Saints D?

Stop thinking so much about the weather and look at the teams.  The Saints are a very solid team, and the Bears are shaky.  The Saints are GETTING three points.

Just a few points...
 
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Same score as an earlier post by matting6
Chicago 27                               New Orleans - 17
Bears -3                 under 46
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LTE23:

Saints LT Jamaal Brown (ankle) has been ruled out for Thursday night's game against the Bears.
Zach Strief, who went to Northwestern and is used to the elements near Soldier Field, will start for Brown. Brown hadn't been playing particularly well, so it isn't a major concern for Drew Brees, Pierre Thomas, or Reggie Bush. Dec. 10 - 3:27 pm et


I put this up and Got no Feedback from NO backers. What is your perspective on This Lost of a Left Tackle????
 
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Quote Originally Posted by FullAccess:

There have been alot of good comments here and respect everyones opinion.    One comment I don't agree with is the weather not having any affect on the game.   I have been playing the odds on sporting events, football primarily for the last 30 years and in all of my decisions are based in part to the weather conditions.    I have also played some college ball and weather has been a factor in 25 of the 35 games I played.    Wind, Rain, Snow, Cold etc......    I remember one game in particular when it was about 28 degrees and our quarterback could not grip the ball and receivers dropped about 10 balls due to the cold weather.   So to say that weather will not affect a game I have to disagree.    Don't get me wrong though I never soley base my decisions on weather alone but it is a factor.   My prediction on this game would be with the Bears and the under here.     This is based on the weather, defenses, and the fact that New Orleans plays horrible on the road on grass.   
 
Bears  20   -    Saints   13
 
Take it for what it is worth and this is only my opinion.

Nice write up!

 
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full,
Im not saying that weather has no effect on the game,
Im saying the weather is not an issue here.  
no reports of wind, temp is mild
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

full,
Im not saying that weather has no effect on the game,
Im saying the weather is not an issue here.  
no reports of wind, temp is mild
 

Well I have played in mild weather and tonight is not mild.   Game time forecast I looked at was 9 mph winds 27 degrees.    That may be mild for an eskimo but I am no eskimo.   That is #%&*#@ COLD!!!!!   The ball will be like a rock.   Weather again is not the main factor of my decision.

 
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Rick, The temps are below freezing and the Saints lost the last 3 games they played in Chicago that were below freezing. I know the last two games were recent but I am not sure about the third. They actually mentioned this trend on ESPN radio. Just a heads up.
 
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If you look at all the cold weather stats dating back to 1985, there has been 552 games played.  

OVER  438........UNDER 114

Tonight's game.......OVER 46  !!!!!

 

 

 
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Forgot to mention........that's 25 degress or colder
 
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Forgot to mention........that's 25 degress or colder
 
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Ahhh... Back from the penalty box. 

Nice! 

I need a win to get back on track after a little NFL skid the last 2 weeks. 

I like the BEARS at home to cover 

and the OVER 44.5

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so you are saying that the weather is going to make a 28th ranked pass defense stop a #1 ranked Offense? 

Hey I may eat my words tomorrow, but Im strong on the over. 

good luck tonight regardless, looks like it could be a huge game.  Nothing like an epic game to make me late for work tomorrrow. 

 

 
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osted: 12/11/2008 4:48:35 PM

If you look at all the cold weather stats dating back to 1985, there has been 552 games played.  

OVER  438........UNDER 114

Tonight's game.......OVER 46  !!!!!

Now THATS some good stuff!!!! Real nice work Sand TY

 BOL to all



 
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New Orleans #1 passing offense
Bears #28 passing defense

New Orleans #27 rushing offense
Bears #6 rushing defense

Bears #21 passing offense
New Orleans #26 passing defense

Bears #15 rushing offense
New Orleans #20 rushing defense

Bears stats are also a little off due to the fact that Rex Grossman played 1 full game against the Titans and part of the game against Detroit and Green Bay.  Chicago plays better at home with a stronger strength schedule than New Orleans.  New Orleans has lost almost all their road games except the game against the lowly chiefs. 

Brees road QB rating is 76.7 with 7 TD and 10 interceptions.   Chicago is also tied for 2nd with 2 other teams with 19 interceptions.

Bears passing D is also high because teams can't run on them so they resort to throwing.  They are the most thrown upon team in the league as of right now. 

This is close to a pick of any team, but with Chicago at homefield advantage and the Saints awful road record, going with the BEARS here.  Small play on the over.
 
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SAINTS ML
 
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Sandman, where did you find a stat like that? What site?
 
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Full , with all due respect I live in the Northeast and 27 degrees is NOT Eskimo weather . I have worked outside my whole life here and in the Winter that's NOT bitter cold. By the way , didnt you say you played ball in the cold? Some of these guys will have short sleeves on tonight. Anyway BOL to all
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

If you look at all the cold weather stats dating back to 1985, there has been 552 games played.  

OVER  438........UNDER 114

Tonight's game.......OVER 46  !!!!!

 

 

Good stat but what were the totals in those matchups? How much of those games went over 46 versus under 46?

Too late for me to change my mind but interested in what it is. Like I stated earlier I'm not banking on the cold weather factor for the total just thinking the Saints & Bears will utilize their strength in their running game and play conservative. Too much at stake for both teams to make costly mistakes in this game.

Good luck on the over

 
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all week long i was leaning towards the bears, but i came home from work today and saw a ton of public money going on the bears and i'm beginning to think the saints are the play.  yea, the saints have sucked on the road, but i think they come to play tonight.  it's basically win or their season is officially over.  i'll take the potent passing game with an adequate running game against a bears team that is just average on both sides of the ball.  i don't think that home field advantage will be that big of a factor tonight for the bears. 
 
Saints are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games on grass.
Bears are 3-4 ATS in 7 games this season on grass.
 
Bears are 4-9 ATS in their last 13 games as a home favorite.
Bears are 4-9-1 ATS vs. a team with a winning record.
 
Underdog is 5-2-1 ATS in their last 8 meetings.
 

i also like the over in this one, but don't like the fact that it is rising. 
 
Over is 7-0 in Saints last 7 games in December.
Over is 13-4-1 in Saints last 18 games overall.
Over is 19-7-1 in Saints last 27 vs. NFC.
 
Over is 16-5 in Bears last 21 games as a home favorite.
Over is 19-7 in Bears last 26 home games.
Over is 27-11-1 in Bears last 39 vs. NFC.
Over is 19-9-1 in Bears last 29 games as a favorite.
 
Over is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings in Chicago.
Over is 5-1 in the last 6 meetings.
 
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WASUP BIGDADDY, been a long time man and i see we're on opposites side tonight but thats allright with me bro.You are a true veteran on here unlike some who just have "locks of the year" every single game LOL. anyways good to hear from you, best of luck to everyone and lets make some money one way or another, its almost CHRISTMAS =)       
 
 
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 not touching the o/u with the weather. but i am alllllll over the bears. BEARS big tonight.
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