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    New Orleans at San Francisco (01/14/2012)

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 3:39 PM ET #126

    Everybody is all over the saints.  Brees is definately one of the best passing quarterbacks of all times.  His weapons are awesome.  And the 49ers have one of the best D's that has been around in a long time and only gave up one rushing td all season.  Is the saints a rushing team NO.  Will the 49ers get to brees i believe yes.  The home field advantage so far in the playoffs has played a huge role in the victories last week.  I do thing that this game is going to go down to the wire i sure don't thing the saints are going to blow out the 49ers.  I think that vegas set this line so low wanting everybody to jump on the saints and i feel that it is the wrong bet.  Vegas knows what they are doing on paper i think you take the saints all day but when it comes to $ i think you take the 49ers at home.  they say defense wins championships we will see here in a little bit

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    Everybody is all over the saints.  Brees is definately one of the best passing quarterbacks of all times.  His weapons are awesome.  And the 49ers have one of the best D's that has been around in a long time and only gave up one rushing td all season.  Is the saints a rushing team NO.  Will the 49ers get to brees i believe yes.  The home field advantage so far in the playoffs has played a huge role in the victories last week.  I do thing that this game is going to go down to the wire i sure don't thing the saints are going to blow out the 49ers.  I think that vegas set this line so low wanting everybody to jump on the saints and i feel that it is the wrong bet.  Vegas knows what they are doing on paper i think you take the saints all day but when it comes to $ i think you take the 49ers at home.  they say defense wins championships we will see here in a little bit

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    saints 24 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 3:54 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by Watson785:

    My 2 cents....I think the Saints cover easily...

    1)  San Fran hasn't played an offense like NO's this year..

    2)  I just can't put money on Alex Smith in the playoffs.

    BOL to all..

     

    Niners played phili, dallas, giants and detroit...pretty good offenses its safe to say.. Eli, Romo, Vick, Stafford??? Point one noted, however I disagree. As for point 2, how do you know how Smith is not going to perform in the playoffs when hes never been  there yet?? The niners run a fairly simple offense compared to most nfl teams.. Alot of play action...straight up gap runs with fullback and pulling guards leading the blocks..This is in order to set up the pass..Now with the niners defense being as solid as it gets, Alex Smith has been able to become more of a "game mananging" quarterback, whose made good decisions and protected the ball this year.. saint defensive backs ranked near last in the leage this year in terms of yardage, takeaways... Alex Smith given the right opportunity just might get "Unleashed" today. Hopefully we can keep brees off the field as much as possible and put some points on the board early.. make the saints come from behind on the road... Special teams will be big today, as well as turnovers.. whoever turns the ball over most in this particular game will lose....

    Pick 49ers +3.5 and over 46.5 

    Niners 27- Saints 24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watson785:

    My 2 cents....I think the Saints cover easily...

    1)  San Fran hasn't played an offense like NO's this year..

    2)  I just can't put money on Alex Smith in the playoffs.

    BOL to all..

     

    Niners played phili, dallas, giants and detroit...pretty good offenses its safe to say.. Eli, Romo, Vick, Stafford??? Point one noted, however I disagree. As for point 2, how do you know how Smith is not going to perform in the playoffs when hes never been  there yet?? The niners run a fairly simple offense compared to most nfl teams.. Alot of play action...straight up gap runs with fullback and pulling guards leading the blocks..This is in order to set up the pass..Now with the niners defense being as solid as it gets, Alex Smith has been able to become more of a "game mananging" quarterback, whose made good decisions and protected the ball this year.. saint defensive backs ranked near last in the leage this year in terms of yardage, takeaways... Alex Smith given the right opportunity just might get "Unleashed" today. Hopefully we can keep brees off the field as much as possible and put some points on the board early.. make the saints come from behind on the road... Special teams will be big today, as well as turnovers.. whoever turns the ball over most in this particular game will lose....

    Pick 49ers +3.5 and over 46.5 

    Niners 27- Saints 24

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:00 PM ET #129

    Interesting analysis:

     Both the Saints and Niners reached thirteen wins employing contradictory strategies. The Saints are known for their record breaking passing attack, while San Francisco is more "old school" with their ground and pound ball control strategy. The Saints have a bend but don't break defense that gives up plenty of yards, while the Niners have a "we'll break you" defense that takes the ball away. The Saints always seem to find themselves in shootouts, winning in spite of a -3 turnover ratio; on the other hand, the Niners come out ahead in defensive battles while enjoying a +28 turnover ratio.


    San Fran isn't known for the vertical pass - Alex Smith averages 183 yards per game on 28 attempts. Yet he's protecting the ball, only throwing 5 interceptions all year - one every 90 attempts (Drew throws an interception for every 47 attempts). As an offense, the Niners haven't turned the ball over in the last five games of the season. They're patient; they can afford to be because though they only convert on 29% of their 3rd downs, they enjoy the best turnover margin in the NFL.


    Look at it another way: despite having a -3 turnover ratio, the Saints outscore their opponents by an average of 13 points per game. With a +28 turnover ratio, the 49'ers only score 9 points more than their opponents, and that total is still 10 points less than what the Saints average. San Francisco's offense is only better than the Rams, Seahawks, Colts, Jaguars, Browns, and Chiefs. If you are paying attention, San Francisco's pitiful offense is in the same division as two of the 5 worst offenses in the NFL. When it is said like that, their defense doesn't look that great. The fact is that "awesome" Niners defense only gives up 60 yards less per game than does the Saints "porous" defense. As for ball control, the 49ers only possess the ball 9 seconds longer than the Saints each game.

    . For all the cockamamie "Saints struggle on the road" believers, consider this: the Saints are an NFL best 18-6 on the road over the last three years. I bet if you looked up the record over the last six years since Sean Payton took the helm, they'd probably be top 5 as a road team in that span.

     The Saints offensive line allows the passing and rushing attack to harmonize. They've faced the big bad Giants and Lions defensive fronts and dominated. What would lead you to believe this won't be the case against San Fran? The Saints have the more versatile and successful RB group, WR group, and the better TE and QB. Who would you choose - the targets Drew Brees enjoys or the Niner coverage unit? It's not even close.

     Yes, they have two LB's playing out of their minds in Willis and Bowman. Aldon and Justin Smith are looking like brothers from another mother, and the front 7 in general is playing at a top level. Their best quality is that the first guy always seems to make the tackle. So what does that mean? It means the Saints and Drew Brees will have to be patient in the early going. It means the Saints offensive line will have to continue to bring the wood and rise up to the challenge. It means the Saints will have a golden opportunity of throwing a haymaker when they lull the Niners to sleep with the nickel and dime body punches.

    The Niners remind me of Atlanta. They have explosive targets in the passing game, but their QB is too inaccurate and inconsistent to put the game on his shoulders. Translation: they depend on the run game, and if they have to throw too much they lose. They take their time getting the snap off and try to shorten the game as much as possible. The defense is stout. They don't allow yards after contact, they get pressure, and they get turnovers. With that said, the ONLY thing that scares me about this game is that it is the first play-off game for many of the Niners players, including building blocks such as Gore and Willis. It is the first home playoff game in a very long time, and the atmosphere will be crunk. The Saints don't need to start fast, but it would sure go a long way in securing a victory.

    The Saints have scored over 40 points the past 4 consecutive weeks. The Saints have shattered just about every offensive record you can look up. They're riding a 9 game winning streak and have looked dominant with balance where it counts. There's been so much talk about the 49ers run defense, but most forget to mention New Orleans two All-Pro Guards. San Fran will be concerned with stopping Daren "Mighty Mouse" Sproles and Jimmy "Graham Reaper." They'll be concerned with stopping Drew Brees. I think the Saints will be able to run the ball well - well enough to convert on 3rd down and well enough to out rush San Francisco.


    I think the machine known as the "Gulf Coast Offense" will win this game by a large margin. I'm not sold on San Francisco. I respect how they play sound football, making tackles and stopping YAC, not turning the ball over, and controlling the clock. Yet I can't help but look at who they've played against, and more importantly, WHEN those games were played. It's about timing. You see, the Niners beat the Steelers, but it was when Big Ben was a statue playing on one leg. They beat Detroit when Stafford had a bo-bo on his finger and his RB had a concussion. They beat the Giants while the G-men had half their defense and RB's on the sideline with injury. Their division stinks this year, and helped them to an inflated record. Remember that 9 game winning streak we talked about?

    Will the Niners defense put up a spirited fight? Sure, but it won't be enough. It won't be near enough. Go ahead and wet down the field - hopefully you don't forget to pay the water bill, because in a day game we don't care if you lose electricity. The Saints have TEAM speed, and any field conditions that will affect speed also would affect San Fran's pass rush. Give Drew Brees more time and he won't have to nickle and dime you. I believe the Saints will embarrass San Francisco. Alex Smith won't keep up with Drew Brees, and the Niners will be forced to abandon ball control if they want to win.

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    Interesting analysis:

     Both the Saints and Niners reached thirteen wins employing contradictory strategies. The Saints are known for their record breaking passing attack, while San Francisco is more "old school" with their ground and pound ball control strategy. The Saints have a bend but don't break defense that gives up plenty of yards, while the Niners have a "we'll break you" defense that takes the ball away. The Saints always seem to find themselves in shootouts, winning in spite of a -3 turnover ratio; on the other hand, the Niners come out ahead in defensive battles while enjoying a +28 turnover ratio.


    San Fran isn't known for the vertical pass - Alex Smith averages 183 yards per game on 28 attempts. Yet he's protecting the ball, only throwing 5 interceptions all year - one every 90 attempts (Drew throws an interception for every 47 attempts). As an offense, the Niners haven't turned the ball over in the last five games of the season. They're patient; they can afford to be because though they only convert on 29% of their 3rd downs, they enjoy the best turnover margin in the NFL.


    Look at it another way: despite having a -3 turnover ratio, the Saints outscore their opponents by an average of 13 points per game. With a +28 turnover ratio, the 49'ers only score 9 points more than their opponents, and that total is still 10 points less than what the Saints average. San Francisco's offense is only better than the Rams, Seahawks, Colts, Jaguars, Browns, and Chiefs. If you are paying attention, San Francisco's pitiful offense is in the same division as two of the 5 worst offenses in the NFL. When it is said like that, their defense doesn't look that great. The fact is that "awesome" Niners defense only gives up 60 yards less per game than does the Saints "porous" defense. As for ball control, the 49ers only possess the ball 9 seconds longer than the Saints each game.

    . For all the cockamamie "Saints struggle on the road" believers, consider this: the Saints are an NFL best 18-6 on the road over the last three years. I bet if you looked up the record over the last six years since Sean Payton took the helm, they'd probably be top 5 as a road team in that span.

     The Saints offensive line allows the passing and rushing attack to harmonize. They've faced the big bad Giants and Lions defensive fronts and dominated. What would lead you to believe this won't be the case against San Fran? The Saints have the more versatile and successful RB group, WR group, and the better TE and QB. Who would you choose - the targets Drew Brees enjoys or the Niner coverage unit? It's not even close.

     Yes, they have two LB's playing out of their minds in Willis and Bowman. Aldon and Justin Smith are looking like brothers from another mother, and the front 7 in general is playing at a top level. Their best quality is that the first guy always seems to make the tackle. So what does that mean? It means the Saints and Drew Brees will have to be patient in the early going. It means the Saints offensive line will have to continue to bring the wood and rise up to the challenge. It means the Saints will have a golden opportunity of throwing a haymaker when they lull the Niners to sleep with the nickel and dime body punches.

    The Niners remind me of Atlanta. They have explosive targets in the passing game, but their QB is too inaccurate and inconsistent to put the game on his shoulders. Translation: they depend on the run game, and if they have to throw too much they lose. They take their time getting the snap off and try to shorten the game as much as possible. The defense is stout. They don't allow yards after contact, they get pressure, and they get turnovers. With that said, the ONLY thing that scares me about this game is that it is the first play-off game for many of the Niners players, including building blocks such as Gore and Willis. It is the first home playoff game in a very long time, and the atmosphere will be crunk. The Saints don't need to start fast, but it would sure go a long way in securing a victory.

    The Saints have scored over 40 points the past 4 consecutive weeks. The Saints have shattered just about every offensive record you can look up. They're riding a 9 game winning streak and have looked dominant with balance where it counts. There's been so much talk about the 49ers run defense, but most forget to mention New Orleans two All-Pro Guards. San Fran will be concerned with stopping Daren "Mighty Mouse" Sproles and Jimmy "Graham Reaper." They'll be concerned with stopping Drew Brees. I think the Saints will be able to run the ball well - well enough to convert on 3rd down and well enough to out rush San Francisco.


    I think the machine known as the "Gulf Coast Offense" will win this game by a large margin. I'm not sold on San Francisco. I respect how they play sound football, making tackles and stopping YAC, not turning the ball over, and controlling the clock. Yet I can't help but look at who they've played against, and more importantly, WHEN those games were played. It's about timing. You see, the Niners beat the Steelers, but it was when Big Ben was a statue playing on one leg. They beat Detroit when Stafford had a bo-bo on his finger and his RB had a concussion. They beat the Giants while the G-men had half their defense and RB's on the sideline with injury. Their division stinks this year, and helped them to an inflated record. Remember that 9 game winning streak we talked about?

    Will the Niners defense put up a spirited fight? Sure, but it won't be enough. It won't be near enough. Go ahead and wet down the field - hopefully you don't forget to pay the water bill, because in a day game we don't care if you lose electricity. The Saints have TEAM speed, and any field conditions that will affect speed also would affect San Fran's pass rush. Give Drew Brees more time and he won't have to nickle and dime you. I believe the Saints will embarrass San Francisco. Alex Smith won't keep up with Drew Brees, and the Niners will be forced to abandon ball control if they want to win.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:01 PM ET #130

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:11 PM ET #132

    as my prediction:  NO 52 - SF  25
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:12 PM ET #133

    I am buying half a point...

    49ers +4.5

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:17 PM ET #134

    SF +3.5 -119, OVER 46.5  
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:26 PM ET #135

    Over 47 game

    BOLTALL

    What up W8, Dogs and Breaka, lets get $$$$$$!!

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    BOLTALL

    What up W8, Dogs and Breaka, lets get $$$$$$!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:30 PM ET #136

    Over 24 1h,,,,,,,
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 4:35 PM ET #137

    last moneys mostly went to Saints ml
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 5:06 PM ET #138

     Who dat? Not da Aints! 7-0 49ers already!!!

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 5:08 PM ET #139

    Quote Originally Posted by BombaBookie:

    Over 47 game

    BOLTALL

    What up W8, Dogs and Breaka, lets get $$$$$$!!

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    Over 47 game

    BOLTALL

    What up W8, Dogs and Breaka, lets get $$$$$$!!

     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 5:14 PM ET #140

     Oops my bad make dat 14-0 49ers = 20-0 Who dat now???
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 5:17 PM ET #141

     Drew Brees better put on some 3 inch lifts to see over the line of scrimmage. . .
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 5:21 PM ET #142

    Keep the foot on their necks coach...!
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 6:24 PM ET #143

    2H NEW ORLEANS -4-  10 more 4 turnovers   14-17   lolll   frisco should be ashamend
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 6:28 PM ET #144

    ha  NEW ORLEANS   should be  lol 4 t/o   wtf
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 6:31 PM ET #145

    Over (2H) 24

    BOTALL!!

    What a great game!

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    What a great game!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 6:53 PM ET #146

    dangit...."Only team to blow 17+ point lead at home in the playoffs is... #49ers, twice (1957, 1972)"
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 8:01 PM ET #147

    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

    San Francisco 49ers +3.5  LARGE

    BINGO!!!  Who dat? It's the original LARGE collecting again!

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    San Francisco 49ers +3.5  LARGE

    BINGO!!!  Who dat? It's the original LARGE collecting again!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 8:04 PM ET #148

    Saintssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 8:09 PM ET #149

    OMG this is one of the best playoff games I have ever witnessed!!!!
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2012 - 8:12 PM ET #150

    How bout dem AINTS???
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