draymondsgrapes

Keep pounding the UNDER in all the ACC, Big10, Big12, Big East SEC, etc games. All the high profile games w/ power conferences and ranked teams. 70% of the games will keep going under, under 1st half until tournament time where they play on neutral sites with rigged up magnetic rims. Then the games will start to go over.

But for now these days the kids are shaving points for the under because

1. MORE People like to bet over - 3 point line is closer, spreads are lower than nba, the foul game factor in college.

2. It's easier to shave points for under.

They are even shaving most games to go way under. This is especially to kill teasers and people who teased the over by 10 points. Notice how many of these unders go like 10 11 12 13 14 points short of the total.

Virginia Tech is one of many fraud basketball programs that only exists to rig and make business with bookies. On Saturday this team and NC State pulled off the biggest scam and biggest fix in history in our faces by scoring 71 total points. Basically shaved off a whole half worth of points. It's basically impossible to score that low. These are top ranked teams and these kids in ncaa are GOOD. Some teams are even better than the pro Euro league teams which is the 2nd best league after NBA in terms of level of play. So it's ridiculous to me that 2 ranked teams Virginia Tech and NC State played out a score you would see in a high school girls game. 

 If those dick heads could pull that off, they'll easily shave pts for the under here again no problem. 

Expect to see a disgusting game by Virginia Tech, where they shave points off for the under again. Missed free throws and lopsided half totals where one half goes way under that it totally kills the over bet. Virginia tech probably clears the first half spread but then allow backdoor cover and lose the original spread. 

EXPECT A RIGGED UP SCORE SOMETHING LIKE 69-66, 68-66. HIGH 60'S BUT STILL UNDER 137.5.

Thank you bro. These dick head moderators are working with the books. Why would they delete a post about something that is really obviously happening? They want people to stay dumb and not know about point shaving. Because if people had common sense and knew about rigging, they CAN actually win money! 

you dick head covers moderators are working with the books. I posted fixed info thread exposing what these dick head college kids are doing. It got deleted. Thread was titled MORE DISGUSTING POINT SHAVING. The kids these days are shaving points for the under because more people are betting the over.

The picks were: Georgetown + Under, Minnesota + Under, Xavier + Under. All are going to be correct. I even stated how each game will exactly play out and it's exactly spot on so far.

Someone I'm sure saw my thread earlier. Please back me up.

These days they are rigging it for the UNDER. More people like to bet on OVER, so you have been seeing and will be seeing more awful basketball and teams blatantly shaving points for the under. They are even shaving it to go way under by like more than 10 points to make sure they kill people who teased the overs too. NC State and Virginia even shaved a whole half worth of points. More and more teams are scoring only 50 pts. Keep betting the UNDER.

THESE ARE LOCKS: For sure 100% will profit from these:

 Georgetown +11 and UNDER 158

Obvious sucker bet for over. Villanova will control this game and will rig the under. They will point shave this to be under, going for 2 to 3 minutes scoreless which is enough to make the under SHOT. They will be playing close to the line whole game and then will allow backdoor cover. 81-73.

Minnesota +11 and Under 148 

Big 10 games are mainly fixed to go under. They will play out a bad very low scoring 1st half then score alot in 2nd half but won't be enough to go over. Purdue will also never pull away and this will result in Minnesota + pts and UNDER being the lock for winner. 71-63.

Xavier +6 and Under 155

Both will point shave points for the under. Xavier is not eifficient enough on offense to score and Creighton is a bad team that won't be able to pull away. Xavier will drag this game to under. 74-69.

Just go ahead and check these guys records against the spread this year. All are probably losing records. These guys are all good coaches when it comes to x's and o's but definitely have connections with the bookies/syndicates. With all the talent these teams have they still underperformed badly and have played many disgusting games and it's not because of bad coaching, it's obviously because these coaches first priority is not winning but is to rig spreads and make $ for Vegas. These fools exposed themselves by doing it too often it became too obvious.

1. Archie Miller

Dirtiest coach. He's not a bad coach but he makes his kids tank way too many games. Go look at his reaction when his team actually hit a buzzer beater and WON vs Butler. Dude wasn't happy. How the hell can you have a reaction like that when your team just WON on a buzzer beater? This is obvious that he isn't interested in the game but in another game which is spread betting. Usually this piece of s*** rigs for the under by making his team come out flat running clock and then taking bad shots. He's on a roll with his tanking at the moment with Indiana losing 5 straight and playing like absolute s*** in every single game. Too obvious for me Indiana is rigging the way they don't make adjustments and playing so bad with good players it looks too deliberate.  

2. Sean Miller

His teams have talent but he doesn't allow them to play to full potential. This year he has been sneaky more low key with the rigging with a good start in the conference but lately has gone back to his shady fixing. When he rigs, it's usually bang right from the start and before you know it his teams are down big and are told to play like shit and never recover. Look at the last few losses for Arizona. Him and his brother are the worst. Look at last games for Indiana and Arizona both coaches by these two dicks. Exact same patterns and same thing happening. Both teams coaches by these two are bad right from the start and are down big and lose big. Again too obvious for me.

3. Bill Self

Self is all about sneaky point shaving/backdoor covers/playing close to the line whole game. He lives for that. You will rarely see a full clean game from Kansas. It's either 1st half that's rigged, the over under or the full game spread which Kansas is controlling. On a current losing ATS run and go look at how all their games go and end. Mostly playing close to the line and allowing teams to come back on them and backdoor. When they win they dont cover, when they lose they don't bother to score enough and shave pts for the under. Missing free throws, turnovers. Kansas team isn't bad and Self is too good of a coach for his team to score 60. But he's got a good excuse to rig and shave pts with the guards being young.  

4. Leonard Hamilton

This guy exposed himself on national TV in the NCAA tournament game vs Michigan. Just go take a look at that game and look at the end where he instructs his kids not to foul in a situation where they NEEDED to foul. And it just so happens the score was landing exactly on the game spread. His teams are super talented + great athletes they can win vs the best teams but lose to bad teams. That's not inconsistency that's a sign of a rigging team. 

Honorable mentions that also rig but not as much as those mentioned above -  Seton Hall, Providence, Wisconsin, Maryland, K State, Vanderbilt, Kentucky

Notre Dame +13.5

Duke gets all this hype and attention so all the eager squares automatically bet on them. This is why Duke and piece of s*** Coach K will point shave and fix this one confirmed. They will play this game close to the line all game and then at the end backdoor cover for ND. At the end Duke will be up by 16-18 with around 1 min left and at that point game is safe and they won't need to score. And that's when the bs backdoor happens. 

Duke vs unranked/trash team can score and win by however many they want. This is why they can and WILL rig this game to win by around 8-13 pts. That's what they did last game vs Georgia Tech. Could easily win by 30 but shaved off a good 20 points and only won 66-53. If they pulled that crap last game they'll pull the same bs here. You'll see RJ Barrett (who's in on the fix) waste many possessions which will ultimately kill the -13.5. You'll see.

These are locks. These teams will shave pts manipulating the total. Live odds go by points per rate and these teams are told to usually rig for the under because it's easier to not score. These coaches tell the kids to take time off the clock and take a bad shot. They are also told to miss free throws. And go on 4-5 minute droughts on purpose. And the refs also don't call easy fouls when they want it to go under so they don't get any free throws all this to help manipulate the under.

DEPAUL +6/UNDER 145 

Providence will shave many pts and fix for the under. You will see turnovers, missed free throws and bad basketball and periods where they don't score for 2-3 minutes. This will drive the rate down and end in under. 73-68.

UNDER 147 MICHIGAN STATE-PURDUE

Big10 games are mainly fixed to go under. If first half goes way over, 2nd half goes way under the total. If first half they score 50 or 60 theyll score 80 or even 90 in the 2nd half. It usually still ends under. 76-69.

SETON HALL +8.5/UNDER 148 

Villanova will shave pts at the end with foul game and allow backdoor cover. They will also manipulate the under. These kids shoot alot of 3s but they go cold on purpose and intentionally not score for 2-3 minutes to manipulate the under. 

Rams team built to win SB and just have more talent. Simple as that. Don't overthink this. #99 Rams will have a big impact and will wreck this game. Too difficult to double team him.

Patriots roster is just too weak and they haven't faced a real team like the Rams. Their division and the whole AFC is trash and are frauds. Name a top team Patriots beat this year. There is none. Even with a ridiculous schedule they only managed 11-5. Beating Bills Jets Chargers and Chiefs is really nothing. The top team from the NFC is on a different level to any of Patriots opponents they faced this year. 

Patriots already overachieved and season already considered a success even if they lose. Considering they got to SB with weak roster and 40 yr old QB and nobody expected them to get this far.

Rams defense is not a joke defense that's run by clowns like Gus Bradley or Bob Sutton. They won't lay down and die like Chargers and Chiefs. They actually have guys who can tackle. It's only Edelman and James White for those cheap checkdowns. Not enough weapons to beat a loaded defense like the Rams.

Everyone on Patriots just like last year. All this sucker talk 'GOAT and Bill B won't lose 2 in a row' is exactly what they want you to think. Just like last year 'Brady not losing to a backup'. Too many eager beavers will be jumping on board Patriots. Patriots will be heavy. Heavy boat always sink.

For those who like to bet on the big games in the main conferences.

-Big East and ACC are the best conferences hands down. Highest quality college hoops. Both good for over betting especially Big East. You can find some really good profitable teams ATS in ACC like Virginia and for Big East teams like St Johns Marquette do good ATS too. Overs are especially profitable in Big East hoops. Almost all teams are good to bet over in their games. They play faster pace. The only teams that may be offensively challenged that can go cold for extended periods or the sneaky ones that shave points to manipulate the under are Seton Hall Providence Butler and Xavier on the road.  

-Big10 is decent, but only 2 teams you can trust when favored ATS. Michigan and Michigan State. The rest are all erratic trash. The minute teams like Iowa Indiana Wisconsin become ranked they take a shit on everyone and lose to the worst teams. Many games also erratic scoring. Games usually goes way under first half and then they score crazy 2nd half. You'll see them score under like 50-60 in first half combined but then like 80 something in 2nd half. Many crook coaches with their own agendas like Archie Miller and Greg Gard who are more concerned about the betting spread than winning the game.

-Big12 is unwatchable and overrated. Scoring and quality gone down. Good if you are a negative kind of guy who likes to bet the under. Very rare you see over unders prices higher than 140. Low quality brick shooting basketball and sneaky point shaving. No team is reliable ATS here. Kansas State is the best team but you can't trust them as favorite. They are only good if they are underdogs. Kansas and Bill Self low key point shaves in games they are favored very often once they are in control and have a good lead by allowing other team to come back and backdoor cover. Becareful with them.

-SEC - Tennessee is great ATS. That's about it. Kentucky usually is good late in the season and still can't trust them. They have too much talent to be struggling to score and that still makes it very suspicious to me. Everyone else is trash and will just beat up on each other. Completely avoid or keep taking Tennessee as favorites and the underdog in every other game that doesn't feature Tennessee in SEC play.

-Pac12 - Try to completely avoid Pac 12 basketball unless you are a true degenerate. Conference of crooks. No team really wants to win. Everyone knows they are bad and probably get 1 team in the NCAA tournament. This is the perfect excuse for every team to rig and completely tank. There's nobody you can trust. Shady coaches like Sean Miller and Bobby Hurley. It's a shame an exciting talented team like Arizona State is underperforming and taking dives shaving points. Even the best team Arizona State can beat top ranked Kansas then lose to Princeton at home the next game.

Sean and Archie Miller are the worst ones. Leonard Hamilton too. Bill Self and Cal tell the kids to rig often too, but these guys usually do a good acting job of covering it up. 

Refs usually help alot with NCAA rigging, but these listed below guys have a proven track record of point shaving/rigging and they also tell some of their kids to get involved. Games involving these teams have ongoing disturbing trends. These guys do it a bit too often that it becomes obvious it's ridiculous. Any logical person would see and understand what they are doing if they know the spread and see what suspicious things these guys do during the game.

These guys usually either shave off time and manipulate the under or allow other teams to back door cover on a regular basis. Many times I seen these teams shave off points by going cold for a period of time or allow teams to come back/garbage points and these coaches usually just stand there and let it happen. While they should be mad and scolding players/calling timeout to stop momentum but they don't.

*1. Sean Miller (Arizona)

*2. Archie Miller (Indiana)

*3. Leonard Hamilton (Florida State)

*4. Bill Self (Kansas)

*5. John Calipari (Kentucky)

*6. Kevin Willard (Seton Hall)

*7.  Greg Gard (Wisconsin)

8. Shaka Smart (Texas)

9. Mark Turgeon (Maryland)

10. Steve Alford (UCLA) - that's why he got fired. was doing it too often and obvious.

1 to 7 with the star are the ones who shave/rig most often. Becareful when betting these teams especially when they are favorite. These coaches from the teams listed have a different agenda and are always f***ing with the spread. I've seen it way too many times. I could name atleast 4 or 5 games off the top of my head for EACH of those teams that looked too suspicious. 

Patriots don't deserve to go to the AFC title game. Team is too weak and it's shocking to me Bill B thinks he can put out this terrible roster on the field and think they can win. They will make their exit here.

Who did they recently beat last time they were in playoffs?  Titans (joke team) and they almost lost to Jax, but only won because got some help from refs. Then they get torched by Foles. Keep in mind this was with a much stronger team than this year with more offensive weapons. They atleast had deep threat Cooks and clutch Amendola.  This year who they got? Edelman coming off injury and not looking as good as he was and old Gronk.

By the way not trolling or making a stupid post. I absolutely hate the Chargers but I have to admit they are pretty good and for sure good enough to win against the weakest NE team I ever seen during Brady-Bill B era.  

Face it folks. You're not winning with guys like Stephon Gilmore and Rex Burkhead. Just NO. That is too brutal.

I knew when Pats acquired those two guys they will never win another SB. 

Pats were good before but that's in the PAST.  

Chargers win 30-20. 

Patriots team is a joke this year. They simply don't have the personnel to compete this year. Even more weakened roster and older out of form Brady. What makes you think they'll be good?

Bill B will pay the price for being cheap letting players go and not signing any good players in the offseason.

Patriots don't have a chance this game. Chargers overall much better players in all positions. Even at qb Rivers is currently playing better than Brady this year. 

End has been near and there are signs it's coming. They have been lucky they didn't lose to Jax at home last year. Jax didn't have a qb that could close. Today similar spot but Chargers have a qb so Patriots are in trouble.

All things come to an end. NFL is tired of the same stale Brady Belichick storyline narrative. Today Patriots dynasty ends. 

At 9/1 now on my book and it's a gift. 

Best team in college hoops and it's not even close. On another level compared to other top ranked teams in the nation. 

They can score the basketball being one of the most efficient offenses. The frontcourt is hands down the best in the nation. Tillie, Hachimura and transfer Brandon Clarke. Name another team that has as much size/talent/depth in the frontcourt. Add in Petrusev off bench they have more depth. They are all scorers too. Tillie and Hachimura can shoot 3's Tillie can stretch the floor. Both are projected lottery/first round picks in next years NBA draft. Add in guys like Norvell, Kispert who can shoot or drive to the hoop/create their own shots. This team is scary good. Just watch them.

I remember 2 years ago when North Carolina won the national title they had 2 really really good bigs Meeks and Hicks that gave them a solid base and an advantage over every team. You couldn't stop them down low and they would outrebound other teams/get their 2nd chance pts. A solid frontcourt goes a long way in March. This year Gonzaga frontcourt is even better than that North Carolina team. More versatile. Not only can they score inside, they can shoot outside. 

Zags international players/recruits already used to competing at high level. Few of them already play for their senior national team. They may not be as gifted athletically like the Zions and top American college players but they have excellent fundamentals and are damn efficient players. I would rather take guys like Tillie and Hachimura on my team over Dukes top 3 players or any other teams best players.  

Gonzaga has been trending to becoming an elite program over the few years, but a national title will really cement that status.

Team has all the tools to win it all and feel it's their year. 

Trevor Lawrence is the better QB no doubt, can make all the NFL throws. But Tua is pretty good on his pre snap reads and is mobile. Sometimes holds onto the ball too long trying to look to pass, but he has speed and can get out of trouble.

Bama offense is very efficient, way more aggressive than I ever seen in years before this and like their playcalling this year. They do a great job mixing up run, pass, play action screens. They even could run up scores in all of their games but they chose not to. Talent in skill positions RBS and WRs might be too much for Clemson. Jerry Jeudy, Ruggs, Waddle, Devonta Smith. Irv Smith is a matchup nightmare at TE. 

Clemson D needs to play perfect game and be able to disguise coverages or else Tua RPOs going to hurt them.

I pick Alabama -5.5 and -3 first half. GL

Yea just my conspiracy theory sort of. But why not lol Football = Americas game. Patriots the current dynasty with the flag on logo. 

Eagles are the new dynasty of the NFL. They need a new team after Patriots dynasty about to end as Brady days are numbered. Last year SB was the passing of the torch when they beat the Patriots. Same story as last year here but a bit different cast. I expect the Superbowl will be Chargers vs Eagles (a SB with two wildcard teams) or Chiefs vs Eagles.

I'll take the Eagles here whatever the spread is. I feel they win outright.

1. Saints are decent but not a super team. It's basically Brees and only 3 skill players that can do damage and make the biggest impact plays. Ingram, Kamara, and Thomas. Defensive front is really good but I don't really trust their secondary. Also feel that the Saints have already reached their peak during around week 8 to week 12. During that stretch they looked like a super team. Impressive wins vs Rams and Eagles. They were just outscoring everybody and running up scores. Brees was slicing and dicing defenses and every time they drove down the field you just knew they would score. Since the Cowboys loss, offense hasn't been clicking like it was during that stretch. More clock control and stalled drives and had to rely on their defense to make plays in some games down the stretch. While Eagles have momentum and are peaking at the right time. How the Saints looked vs Cowboys, Bucs, Panthers in final few weeks I think Eagles can take them. Defense been playing good enough to make me think they keep them in this game and then steal it in the end somehow. They have been disciplined and not been giving away many penalties which is also a good sign. 

2. Foles has more weapons than Brees and he spreads the ball around and gets everyone involved. That makes their offense more dynamic. Eagles O-line is legit. Johnson and Peters have stepped up big since Foles came in. Line been doing a good job of protecting Foles and I think they will be good enough to give him enough time to make some plays downfield. Even short/intermediate passing game Foles showed he is very capable. Foles even has more weapons than he had last year with Tate and Goeddert - both them scored TD's against the Bears. On defense secondary is a bit of a concern, but core of the SB winning team is still there - Jenkins, Cox, Graham, Lane Johnson, Kelce, Big V, Alshon, Ertz, Agholor. Plus they added Bennett another monster that adds more exp. as well. This rejuvinated team with that much talent can beat the Saints.

3. The earlier game that Saints won vs Eagles was with a different qb. It was a meltdown by Wentz also. Won't happen here with Foles. 

I believe Wentz is not even injured and could play. I think Doug P knows this team is better with the clutch veteran Foles and is bringing him in as the closer. It's clear by now when you see the comparison on how they look on offense Foles is a better fit and gives them a better chance to win in the postseason. This Eagles offense was never stagnant. It was Wentz who made them like that. The roster has too much talent. The deep threat was always there. Alshon. Wentz was only looking for Ertz and was holding on to the ball too long. Had terrible pocket awareness and made costly mistakes. Also they possibly rushed him back from injury.

Foles is money!!!  Eagles are the new dynasty of the NFL. Watch them go to the SB now. vs Chiefs or Chargers