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@Ushpa Props to the two Japanese horses for finishing 3r and 5th, and for the nice efforts by Resilience and Stronghold. I'm wondering if Stonghold and Resilience will go to the Preakness and/or Belmont. |
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I drove by Arlington last week. Not a building. Not a tree. Not a stick of grass anywhere. I almost started to cry. |
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@vetdrm You mean Pat F'n Day? Sure do |
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@pittsburghphil Philly....so great to hear from. Yes...we're oldies but goodies. Good luck! |
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Your opinions please.....If it rains prior to race time and the track is drying out by race time, who moves up especially f the surface is cuppy? |
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@mrusso "I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant." Thanks for the nice comment. Maybe a 70-1 "sleeping giant" will win the big race! |
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Go gettem' Vet! |
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So sorry, but posting a lot of copy on this site is not easy. If you have questions, let me know and I will answer them. |
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Catalytic is #5, not #4 |
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Note...the system or posting a lot of copy here is not good, so my edits got screwed up, This part is missing:
4. Catching Freedom…This is another with questions. The son of Constitution (Tapit) and a Pioneer of the Nile dam will need racing tactics extraordinaire to navigate early and to swim mid-pack waters before setting down for the close. His work for this has been stellar and he gets a great Derby jock in Prat, who won this with Country House in 2019. Don’t doubt Brad Cox, who is destined to win a second Kentucky Derby. One knock to consider. Just two horses have won the Louisiana Derby, Black Gold in 1924 and Grindstone in 1996 ( I will always believe that Cavonnier won that race by a half-nostril), and went on to win the KY Derby. Again, the trend has been to buck the trend, so carry on. Catching Freedom is not at the top of my wheel, but I put him under.
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I’m not going to bet on all 14 horses listed here. Closer capping is needed to make affordable, yet well-informed bets. Win candidates in order of preference: Fierceness, Sierra Leone, Forever Young, Honor Marie (17, 2, 11, 7) Place candidates in order of preference: Resilience, Catching Freedom, Just A Touch, Epic Ride (19, 4, 8, 21) Show candidates in order of preference: Catalytic, Dornach, Just Steel, Stronghold (5,1,6,8) Superfecta fourth place candidates in order of preference: Domestic Product, Track Phantom, Grand Mo the First (15, 12, 16)
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22, Mugata…According to Dave Grening of DRF, “Mugatu does not draw in and will now point to Peter Pan.”
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10. T O Password…I won’t make him a simple toss—as I stooopidly did with Rich Strike---because the Japanese horses are not just coming, they’re here-- big-time-- as evidenced by JPN Breeders Cup showings the past few years. Not much to work with here, but this horse has talent, as his two career races show. He has a prominent Japanese jockey and solid trainer. Do I think he can win the Derby? I didn’t think Rich Strike, Giacomo or Mine That Bird could win it. Pay attention to articles and comments from cappers to get some intelligence on the animal. Ya’ never know.
11. Forever Young…This is the best horse from Japan I’ve seen entered in the Derby. Forever Young is the very real deal. A record of 5/5-0-0 and $2 million in prizes—dollars, not yen—his Time Form ratings are excellent and comparable to most of the better Beyers of horses in the race. Criticized for not liking kick-back (who does?), FY bowled over regarded Book’em Danno in the Saudi Derby and he looks like a solid closer. I’ve always said that horses who come from other parts of the world to Mayden and Dubai go there to put their careers in reverse. Not this guy. He’s a true globetrotter. I’m not saying that Forever Young is going to join the immortals, but he is good and can win this race regardless of JPN horses due after years of trying. Sakai has jockeyed 4,000+ races, but only 9.7% wins. Trainer Yahagi is 11%+ wins and trained the 2020 JPN TC winner. Solid win candidate! 12. Track Phantom…I’ve gone back and forth all week long on this $200K Quality Road colt. Fourth place in LA. Derby and second in Risen Star despite 94 Beyer’s in each, has he regressed since his Lecomte victory? We’ll see if he goes to the lead, or near front end, which might make a difference in the entirety of the race. Hard to fool Asmussen with the educator putting blinkers on the lad (Steve is 15% wins with eye shades). Hall of Fame inductee Rosario tickles the twine with the two combining for 27% in wins at CD. Not looking for more than a piece and if the pace is super quick at a mile or so, he’s adios ‘till next time. 13. West Saratoga…Touted as the feel-good story of the week, the colt has raced eleven times amassing over $400K in winnings with a record of 10/2-5-1, pretty good. His best speed figure is an 85 in the Jeff Ruby on synthetic (2 place, 4L out). Sorry. Can’t do it. 14.Endlessly…Winner of the Jeff Ruby by 4L, out of recently beatified turfer Oscar Performance, he’s made great progress. Endlessly is 6/5-0-0 lifetime with his only blemish an 8 place in the BC Juve Turf, but that was a loss by just 3-1/2L. Of his six races, the boy has run two on synth and four on turf. Nice that he’s in the Derby, but can he go on dirt? We’ll see, but not with my money. 15. Domestic Product…When was the last time we got 30-1 odds on a Chad Brown horse ridden by Irad Ortiz? Well, that’s what we got here in the son of Practical Joke entering with a nice resume (5/2-1-0 lifetime), but maybe a bit shy of the best. Improving as a three-year old, there are questions about his tackling the distance. I can’t back him, but Irad-Chad believers (27%-win combo in 2023-24) should go for it. 16. Grand Mo The First…While his stats might not merit 50-1 status, the third place finisher in the FLA Derby (lost by 16L) looks out-classed by a longshot (pun intended). With early success on the synth and turf, he’s transitioned well to dirt, but the Uncle Mo colt looks out-matched with this bunch. Of course I should pass, but I have a hankering for a slice. |
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Posted at 8 pm Eastern time. Hello again everybody. For the 20 year, I have come out of the turf cave for my once-a-year Kentucky Derby analysis. Kentucky Derby 150 is herewith, perhaps, more questions to be asked than answers to be given with a field rife with uncertainty about several horses, including the favorites? Hope you enjoy my ramblings, but, most of all, my wish is that you’ll take away a few capping points to help you to win. |
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@Tygermyke I'm a bit Honor Marie Jonesed |
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@Tygermyke Hey Tyger. Good to hear from you. |
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@vetdrm Sounds like a plan. I'm doing my annual Derby analysis. Will post tomorrow night. |
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@vetdrm I hear you. I might have a seat in Osk Brook if you're interested. $75 with $50 of it in food and drink. Let me know. |
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