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@joe pockets You answered a question with a question, which means you don't have an answer. I'll answer your question though. If Russia was truly pushed to an economic brink, and had exhausted all military resources, it could bring about a mutually assured destruction scenario. That definitely makes America, along with all NATO countries, along with the entire world, less safe. Russia is also a major oil producer. Turmoil in a oil producing country is bad for tje global economy. The current iteration of the ongoing Russo-Ukrainian war is a huge contributor to current inflation yet somehow that's rarely acknowledged. I'll ask you another question. Why do you want a Russian collapse? |
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Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: I can hope that Ukraine refuses any deal that doesn’t support their National interests. Especially if they aren’t allowed to participate in negotiations. A lot depends on Europe’s continued commitment to support Ukraine, There has never been a better time to nutter Russian aggression as they can barely support a supply line half way across Ukraine! Depending on how much of a man crush Trump has on Putin there is always a possibility of Trump bailing out Russia! At this point our allies around the world should with good reason reevaluating their alliance with America. @joe pockets Quote : Putin came up through the ranks. He’s smart and hard-working and he understands how things work. Sounds like he's not the only one who has a man crush and is infatuated with Putin[/Quote It’s just a class case of being heads and shoulders better equipped for the position! And I must add Putin having vastly more wealth! I dislike both equally…..Maybe not! https://www.covers.com/forum/politics-87/ukrainewhat39s-the-next-step-103616945/98Trump ending the war by manipulating Putin.. Just tell Putin hes the best, and everyone lives... But that's not at all what the democrats and media want to hear. Especially a war they have so painstakingly nurtured and funded since day one. Think of all the money their military-industrial complex shareholders would miss out on. No. Not acceptable at all. Trump took a bullet for the American people. Pint-sized Zelensky hides in a bunker while outlawing opposition media and churches. Trump’s no coward, but Zelensky is.This war is, and always was, a completely disgusting disregard for human life. Imagine the heartbreak for all those families who have lost sons, fathers, brothers etc. It should never have started, and must end immediately by any means possible. Thank you Trump for your efforts.@lovethedough Tell to his bone spurs! He played college tennis but couldn’t serve his country!…. But he is smarter than all the generals!…Trumps a clown!President Trump’s bold move to replace Gen. C.Q. Brown with Lt. Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs signals a return to military excellence over woke bureaucracy. Brown’s tenure was marked by DEI initiatives and questionable leadership, while Caine’s proven track record in dismantling ISIS and special operations expertise aligns with Trump’s America-First vision. This change prioritizes warfighting over performative politics, ensuring our military remains the world’s strongest. Hegseth’s focus on meritocracy and lethality over identity politics is exactly what the Pentagon needs. Taxpayer dollars should fund warriors, not woke programs.I don't think Trump is supporting Russia or Putin. But I do think he is smart to not call Putin a dictator in public .. Its a diplomatic negotiation to end a war; Trump has to treat Putin with some basic level of respect and decorum to save a lot of lives and money. Trump just has to pretend to respect Putin and the war will end. Russia's military and economy have been devastated. It will take them generations to recover. All this without losing a single American soldier. Our investment in Ukraine has been very well spent. And now Trump wants Ukraine to basically surrender! Is this the winning Trump is talking about! Nonsense. The numbers do not support this. It is more Leftist Media narrative talking points.
How exactly does "devastating Russia military and economy" make us safer or more prosperous? |
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: What are they supposed to do? Rain dances? How about, behind closed doors, hiring a recovery consultant who is far-left, had two employees plead guilty to fraud in New York for Huricane Sandy relief funds??!!! Done. Or how about firing your Fire Chief. Done. My wife watches the show "HOARDERS". When one of them said "What am I supposed to do?" I thought of your 1st rain dance post. This is your 2nd. Sorry man, but I see a lot that should have been done. If you see a lot that should have been done, please enlighten me. |
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@Raiders22 Any money would be for disaster relief. And what is meant by storing it better? There certainly isn't any problem with capacity. I would also posit that there isn't anything wrong with the aqueduct system. What exactly could be better and how? Saying "prevent the fires" is like saying "prevent the hurricanes," or "prevent the tornadoes." Most wildfires don't occur in actual forests, though some do. The LA fires weren't in a forest. Portions of the region are wooded but much of it is heavily developed. Mitigation isn't as simple as some media would have you believe. It's a chaparral region. It's borderline desert. You can hack that shit until the cows come home, it just grows back. The vegetation in these regions is heavily drought resistant and just explodes. Much of the area is private property, and management falls on the ownership. As far as water, when too many valves are open, pressure is going to drop. The system was simply overloaded. Sure, disallow new construction. Most of the homes have beem their for decades. Some since the 40s and 50s. As far as saving money rather than spending on ridiculous programs, and elected official accountability, we already know we are on the same page on such things. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
They also collect the most in tax revenue for their own state. So, I am not so sure that it should completely absolve them from making changes or having responsibility for inactions to prevent, or lower costs for disasters. I am not sure how conditional federal funding should be, but they for sure need to take some responsibility on their own and make changes and hold their politicians and administrations accountable. At some point, if they have to pay more out of their own revenue and receive less from federal, maybe they will make some changes. What are they supposed to do? Rain dances? |
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Quote Originally Posted by justliketoplay:
@tjones1270 C. Give me a little head in the car and call it a day! This is the way. |
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Quote Originally Posted by sundance:
California governor Gavin Newsom has requested 40B in federal aid to help rebuild The City of Angels and surrounding areas in the aftermath of 'The Fire!' Why should US taxpayers take care of California when they knowingly allowed the brave fireman to hook up their hose to hydrants with no water? Why should the country trust Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, the mayor of LA? One reason they should is that California pumps an insane amount of tax dollars into the federal government. |
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Bruh. |
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The Russian army is having a hard enough time in the eastern Ukrainian Oblastsh but Putin is the greatest threat to democracy. Not Xi. Putin. When did liberals become such warhawks? We help bring about this proxy war that equates to the loss of Ukrainian and Russian lives for nothing more than to pump money into the miltary industrial complex and democrats are all, "Yeah, get'em! Putin is the devil! Greatest threat to democracy!' All these boomers grew up reading comics so they fall for these comic book narratives. |
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator. Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Republican Tillis calls Putin the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime. In the last 3 years, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has lead to more war deaths and destruction than in several countries combined. Shining star of the liberal agenda, Tom Tillis. I wonder which defense lobbyist told him to say all that? |
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@Europa So you first link did more to prove my point than yours. You then repeat the phrase "google it" and post a second link from early 2023 addressing the overall Biden inflation/grocery price increases. That link was from February of 2023 and had nothing to do with the current egg price spikes of late 2024/early 2025, a year and a half later. I'll ask again. Are you one of those guys that enters a query into google looking for any link that relates to your argument, then posts said link without even reading/watching it yourself? You seem to be. Both of your links do more to prove my point than yours. |
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When Trump left office, eggs were just under $2 a dozen, in the middle of a global pandemic with all it's inherent supply chain issues. Biden takes office, and like everything, the price skyrockets. More than doubling by the end of 2022, a then record price. They come down a little in 2023 before again steadily marching towards all-time highs, culminating in new record highs by the end of December/early January. Trump is sworn in on January 20th. On January 28th, a ridiculous, completely idiotic reporter: "Egg prices have skyrocketed since Trump took office..." |
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@Europa Big difference. She simply answered a question and pivoted away from a false narrative pushed by a liberal reporter. Did you watch your own link or not? I'll sum it up for you. A reporter, literally a mere week after Trump took office, posed the ridiculous question, if you can call it that, "You know, eggs prices are up and stuff. That's Trump's fault, right?" Again, this was literally a week after he took office. She simply did what any good press secretary would do and obliterated his completely asinine narrative. She stated that egg price hikes go back to last year, while Biden was in office, which is a fact. A liberal reporter tried to push a false narrative. She corrected him. Did you google a video, post it, and not take the one minute to even watch it? Figures. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Europa:
Quote Originally Posted by Crashdavis565: Strap in for four years ( maybe more see 22nd Amendment) of ” It’s not my fault, Biden left me this mess” and ” Things are actually way better for you, Just look at the brilliant economic data” “If only people would listen more to me, things would be much better” This is gonna be such a shit show. And oh, by the way, eggs are already way more expensive Record high egg prices in Acadiana Republicans blamed Biden Administration for high egg prices in last year's president campaign, whom are Trump and GOP to blame for the record high egg prices? To blame Pres. Biden, again for the record egg prices? Guess who is currently sitting at the Oval Office now? Biden still, really? Republicans never blamed Biden for egg prices. You're making stuff up. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Calde13:
Quote Originally Posted by Ringmaster316x: 8Putin is bringing back the U.S.S.R Soviet Union + America is expanding.....Greenland + Canada + Panama Canal +Gaza strip Greenland has just been a yearly bill for us, the Gaza Strip is just a warzone and Panama Canal is just a water canal :) What a great leader he is that he uses his time on that :) he is like a stupid dog that proudly show off that he can hide his poop - the problem is his followers are even more retarded so they don’t realise it is all bullshit Greenland is just a dependent, granted. Our GDP is probably 50 times you guys'. We spend ridiculously as is. We can take on a dependent. As trade is increasing routed through the North Sea/Norwegian Sea/North Atlantic, partially spurred by the economic growth of the Scandinavian countries, Greenland is poised to become strategically valuable to the U.S. As the region's seas are less and less inundated with ice, those trade routes will only sea further growth. In a perfect world, Greenland isn't acquired by hostile means. It would be nice if it could stand as a covenant between our two countries. Trade between the U.S and and the Scandinavian countries, medical tech, pharmaceuticals, Norwegian oil, etc, is unlikely to decrease. The U.S. finds itself in a situation where we will be in the market for new friends. The acquisition of Greenland would hopefully be mutually beneficial. The Panama canal is the Panama canal. It is not just a waterway. If we don't seize control, China will. This also relates back to the possibility of increased shipping via the North Atlantic. Gaza, sadly, wouldn't be for us. We would seize it and turn it over to Israel, albeit with a sizeable, permanent U.S. miltary presence. I'm not a fan of Israel so I won't go further into this. |
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Crazy thing is when he first became a starter, he was a legit offensive threat. |
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@lovethedough Is it even pretending? How about, "Hey, he's a world leader. I'm not gonna act like I know what's best for every other country, not gonna but into other people's affairs with checkbook in tow, and give the guy a little respect." And, oh, "not fawn over actor turned puppet president Zelensky, as if all of a sudden Ukraine is our ally." Did Ukraine at least send us some hot Ukrainian chicks for all the money we dumped into their defense effort? |
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
@Raiders22 I was being nice with "probably". Trump is pushing Zelensky into the arms of the EU and forcing the EU to step up. If they want to embrace industry plant Zelensky, let them have at it. We have no reason to involve ourselves in the affairs of Slavic countries. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: LET'S GET THINGS STRAIGHT Ukraine did not start the war. Russia did. Zelensky isn't a dictator. Putin is. The U.S. has NO business siding with the world's most dangerous dictator. Dipshit Donnie is a Russian puppet. How is Putin more dangerous than Xi? More dangerous than Kim? More dangerous than MBS? Heck, how is he more dangerous than Netanyahu? Why do liberals push narratives based on cold war archetype comic book villians? Russia has had it's hands full with just Ukraine but liberals want us to believe that Putin is some huge threat to the western world. Don't be underestimating Vlady now Stu. BTW...why is the Donald being so petty & getting involved in traffic issues in the Big Apple? Do you think he gives a shit about NYC? My sister goes regularly to shows on Broadway & since the change her commute has gone from 40 to 20 minutes. How about you scooby? Have you seen the traffic change in the city? I 100% am not underestimating Putin. I'm underestimating, or rather, properly estimating the potential threat Russia poses in relation to China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia (financially) and Israel (Intelligence_disinformation). We paint Russia out to be our greatest adversaries and a threat to the safety of America. Meanwhile, Russia has it's hands full with Ukraine. Let that sink in. We always hear about the cold war and the arms race with Russia but frankly, there military never really rebounded from WW2. A war they fought side by side with us, sustaining exponentially more casualties. We don't teach that though. We like to teach about storming the beach at Normandy. My stance has always been the same. Let Slavic peoples deal with Slavic peoples. We have no business involving ourselves. We fought side by side against a common enemy but times have changed. I've said it before & I'll say it again..I don't want any American boots on the ground anywhere there is a war. This is & will be a European problem & they have been our allies since WWII. I do not like how the Donald cozies up to Putin because he's not smart enough to come out a winner. Saying Ukraine started the war with Russia proves once again our president takes subservient role with Putin. I don't like it one bit. I believe the media exaggerates this issue, as if Ukraine is the first step in the reformation of the Soviet Union. Russia doesn't have a military capable of such an endeavor. Not by a long shot. The roots of the current Russo invasion run deeper than the past 3 years. And while I would stop short of flatly stating that Ukraine started it, it's a lot more nuanced than, "Putin's a mad man who invaded Ukraine without provocation." Which is the narrative pushed by American media. |
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