StumpTownStu

Who said he said anything wrong? 

Care to cite/quote/link where any of them incited violence?

If you were gonna do it, and obviously it's a non-starter because it's horrible, but it you were gonna do it, that would be the way to go about it.

Honestly, what i've seen on the streets of San Francisco and Oakland in the last 20 years, and Portlant to an extent too, and Seattle for that matter, is essentially assisted suicide. And while I can't speak for post covid Seattle because we just don't spend time up there like we used to, those other places have gotten exponentially worse.

How exactly did he propose killing them? Was it humane? I've got to say, i've never heard of this Kilmaede character but i'm definitely intrigued.

That merger was always going to happen because Larry Ellison is Larry Ellison. And as I have said many times, this country is a corporate oligarchy. It definitely was a huge factor though but also, as I said, late night talk is a dead format. Those shows were on borrowed time anyway. Doesn't make any of this right. Jimmy Kimmel was a talentless hack. No one has ever made more with such little talent. Doesn't mean he deserves to go out like this but Nexstar made the call. They said they wouldn't air it. They own all the ABC affiliates. Disney had no choice.

I think he's a bottom. Something about killing a guy" to dilence hate" when you're just a regular white dude, something about that says, "I get plowed." That's some next level simping. My wife is a Lutheran. If Charlie Kirk talked a bunch of shit about Lutherans, I definitely wouldn't smoke his ass. And I love that woman more than life.

I just read that it wasn't even Disney. It was Nexstar. 

Kinda reminds me of this place.

To be fair, late night talk is dead as a format and networks have been looking for their escape clauses. The political stuff, with respects to Colbert and Kimmel, just became their convenient excuse for Disney and Skydance. With Skydance, Oracle's government contracts were surely a factor but they wanted out anyway.

Apparently he was in an electrical apprenticeship. That's one thing about the LDS in Utah. They control all the trades.

1) How did Trump ever become my boy?

2) Yes, both sides are jumping through hoops. We'll see how it all plays out.

Tyler Robinson: Top or bottom?

@Calde13

 Very valid points. I think simply based on who Charlie Kirk was, conservatives everywhere immediately rushed to the "violent democrats" narrative, without anything being known about the shooter. Almost just as fast, though, you had democrats being like, "Well, it is conservative Utah." Then when info started to trickle out, it was, "Well, he was raised in a conservative household. Well, he's actually a groyper." I had never heard the term,then all of a sudden, on Friday, my wife mentions it, then one of the bros here mentions it. The reality is, people don't actually care. Both sides are always looking for the next political chip to ante up. The next game piece to play. It's all a soap opera.

@DeezyAZ81

 It's funny, first you said no reputable news sources were reporting any of this. Now essentially all news sources are reporting on this. Even the likes of CNN and BBC. Now you’re going with, "...but Candace Owens and Steve Bannon, and Grok AI say it's fake." Let me guess. Candace Owens thinks it's all a Mossad conspiracy, right?

I really don't give a shit one way or the other. The loss of life is tragic. The circumstances particularly heinous but i'm not a Charlie Kirk fan, and I have no real interest in this story other than talking about it with you guys. So i'm more than happy to wait and see. I just find it comical that many left leaning people have been jumping through hoops to have this kid be anything except someone resembling a liberal. And for the record, i'm not equating gay and liberal. I'm just amused by the defense being played.

Honest question. How do you know the Discord and 4chan profiles aren't what's fake? I mean, if Steve Bannon and Candace Owens say it's all fake, I guess the discussion is over. 

Gentleman......how are the balls hanging? Low, I bet.

This is the thing. The messages were released to the press, from law enforcement. This is the way info from active investigations gets out. Info regarding text messages usually come from phone dumps. So eitherthe shooter, and his roommate/lover had this text exchange as a diversion, or law enforcement is literally falsifying evidence. I have always been a "most likely scenario is probably correct" type of guy. If the text exchange was a diversion, from what. It doesn't help the killers case. It makes him sound callous. So what? Are we to believe law enforcement just made it up?

All this talk about reserved judgements. Waitng until the trial? When has that ever been the norm on this site? If the "groyper" narrative was true, if the hoops people were jumping through to link him to his family's conservative values actually panned out, would we be waiting until a trial to reserve judgenent? Probably not.

At the end of the day, I never made any of this a liberal vs conservative thing. I simply linked him to the LGBTQ+ community. People can make whatever political equivalencies from that they choose.

You're addicted to the soap opera. You think it's real life. Tou think it's necessary for you to along. It’s not. I don't watch the soap opera. I haven't for quite some time. And i'm no less informed because of it.

Now you’re getting into falsified evidence then. Now we're getting into the realm of conspiracy.

@DeezyAZ81

 No where did I say the shooter was left leaning. I said he was a member of the LGBTQ+ community.

So you're saying you aren't purposely consuming US news? Danish networks just give a lot of air time to US news? Sounds like a Denmark issue. If they are doing this, it is because there is an audience for it.