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Why did they remove the link?
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vancleaveb | 6 |
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Weird, it works fine when I copy/paste it. :/ Bottom line...I'm an idiot, and he is a douche!!!! |
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You can read all the texts. Yeah, I'm an idiot. |
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I'm going to sink his pitiful existance. Anyone want info on him? |
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll: I believe I proved I won...I used dozens of websites that show the rules of wagering. _______________ Unfortunately, he's the judge AND the jury AND has a vested interest in the outcome. And he already told you he doesn't follow the "traditional" rules. It's easy to say he doesn't follow the rules after the fact. Truth be told, I could tell he had no idea of the rule....which just shows he's a shitty book (if he even is legit)
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vancleaveb | 19 |
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
As Tom Cruise once said, "it doesn't matter what I believe, it only matters what I can prove." You're right IMO, but the guy isn't gonna cave. Get what you can.
I realize he isn't going to cave....and I honestly wrote the money off as soon as he acted a fool about it. I just wanted to get others opinions. I love that quote....and the thing is, I believe I proved I won...I used dozens of websites that show the rules of wagering. Showed our emails/texts that showed where he claimed they were vegas lines/odds. I asked him to show me ONE legitimate source that says the bet was a loser and not a 2-way win (one leg having "no action"). And he can't....all he can say is "I'm small time, I don't go by those rules".
No, I didn't pay him. I believe (and proved) he owes me $3500....I obviously would never do business with him again....just want to make sure I'm doing the right thing. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:
The bookmaker is right. The player has no recourse without a document explaining the particular bookmaker's rules. There is no one size fits all rulebook in an illegal operation. If he says it's a loser, it's a loser. I'd demand a refund of the bet and move on. That's the fairest solution. But if he doesn't clarify his rules beforehand, doesn't it seem reasonable to apply the normal rules of wagering? I haven't found one place where it states anything other than a runline bet shall have "no action" unless it goes 8.5 innings. So now that it benefits him, he just decides he doesn't want to go by the rules? (He basically said this....."I know the rule, but I'm a small time operation, I don't follow those rules") And while "rules" weren't discussed....the book did state he uses Vegas Lines/Odds. Isn't it reasonable to believe the same rules apply? Anyways....show me ONE place where it states that a runline bet has action, even if it doesn't go 8.5 innings....Please!!! I don't mind being wrong...but just can't see it. |
vancleaveb | 19 |
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Please keep your responses to simple explanations of who is right, and why.
Scenario: Player A was looking for a new outlet Bookie Contacts Player A and states he might be willing to book ONLY his parlay action, no straight bets Player A decides to give it a try, see if he is legit. After much back and forth, both finally agree to test the system with one wager; loser pays the following day. 3-Team Parlay for $1500; Pays $8000 (both are aware of the short payout and agree anyways) Braves -1.5 (+120) (Braves win 9-5) Indians-1.5 (+100) (Indians win 2-1; but game is called after 7 innings) Rangers +1.5 (-190) (Rangers lose 2-1, but cover) Player A contends that this play is a winner and should pay out $3500 (Runline Bets require a game to go 8.5 innings to have action, just like totals, therefore when the game was called after 7 innings that portion of the wager became "No Action" and $1500 on the remaining two pieces pays out $3500) Book contends this play is a loser and Player A owes book $1500 (Book says that any game is final once the final score is posted, no matter the innings. Claims to know the rule, but that they are "small time" and dont' follow others rules?) Who is right .....and why? |
vancleaveb | 19 |
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I want to put $10k on the over. But why pay my guy the juice? There has to be someone who likes the opposite. If someone is in So Cal, and wants to sit down and watch the game together. Lets throw our cash down and enjoy the game. Winner pays for the drinks.
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vancleaveb | 2 |
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kuddish, If you are serious about a desire to stop gambling, I suggest you get to a GA meeting, its the only thing that might help you. https://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/node/1 Ask yourself these questions, if you answer yes to 7 or more, chances are you are a compulsive gambler: 1.Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling? 3.Did gambling affect your reputation? 4.Have you ever felt remorse after gambling? 5.Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties? 6.Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency? 8.After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more? 10.Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling? 11.Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling? 12.Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?
13.Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family? 15.Have you ever gambled to escape worry, trouble, boredom or loneliness? 16.Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling? 17.Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping? 18.Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble? 19.Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling? 20.Have you ever considered self-destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling? |
kuddish | 18 |
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Michael,
I came on here to ask a simple question. Whether something was legal/ethical. What does it matter what name I use? Aren't all screen names just an alias? Either answer the op, or move along. No need to act like Sherlock Holmes...nothing to see here.
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Afriend1775 | 11 |
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I have a question. If someone tells me they have a stock tip for me. That the stock is going to jump from .05 to 1.00 over the course of a few weeks. And that person got the information from someone who knew the release of info from a company..... Am I doing anything illegal by investing in this stock? |
vancleaveb | 4 |
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Yes, there is a picture there of my sportsbook account. It shows 52k...
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vancleaveb | 7 |
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https://post.craigslist.org/imagepreview/n/3Eb3Lb3Je5G65F25Jcd4i461bb6132bc71a4a.jpg
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vancleaveb | 7 |
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What does my status mean?
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vancleaveb | 2 |
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Nope
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Quote Originally Posted by WallStreet21: Yeah losing a house in a tragic storm is always comical Wallstreet, I don't think anyone would think it was comical for someone to lose a house due to the tragic storms. HOWEVER, someone who lost their house...who then goes on to gamble at an online casino, while in a shelter....well, I think that might be comical to some. Then to complain about it.....yeah, I'm going with comical....
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WallStreet21 | 16 |
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MANIAX:
PM me....I'm in Cali, got what you need. |
MANIAX | 15 |
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers: Why are you soliciting and exchanging personal information through members here? I dont get it.. Not really exchanging personal info with "other" members. It really appears like just exchanging info with himself....
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BEATTHEBOOK81 | 47 |
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Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1: i have a bridge in brooklyn i want to sell. anyone here interested? www.afoolandtheirmoneyaresoonparted.com. i also have an 800 number and a paypal account to prove my credibility if you need that. i have a lot of guys hereon covers that will vouch for me as well. they only have user accounts for less than 30 days but dont worry about that as im "legit" and a "normal dude." A bridge? In brooklyn??!?!?! If you can get some of these guys on covers to vouch for you (I don't care if they just signed up) I'd definitely be interested!!!! Where do I send my money?
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redsxfn3321 | 24 |
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