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Posted: #5051
Quote Originally Posted by Dpha003:

Liking the Panthers - 2.5 over the Eagles in the Sunday night game. Defensively similar statistically 3rd down percentage allowed, yards per game and points per game. Untill you look at penalties Eagles the most penalized defense with a massive 534 penalty yards so far this year. In contrast the panthers are the second least penalized defensive unit in the league (33 penalties & 246 total yards). 

Offensively Eagles have a really poor 3rd down conversion rate of just 30% by comparison league leaders, the patriots, complete 51% of third downs. That poor completion rate reflects the leagues worst average time in possession. Bradford has been horrible  they guy is good to throw two picks per game.

Eagles were lucky to win last week it was more a case of which team could be worse rather than the eagles rolling. 


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Look money control the world jabba.....American sports are the worst corrupt sports in the world.


That's complete bull.  It's like saying a rapist in the US is more vicious than a rapist in the rest of the world.  If anything there's less corruption in US sport than the rest of the world because of the extreme spotlight on the games.  We pioneered the action from every angles, cameras in the locker room etc.  Yes, there is corruption but nothing compared to say, rugby in NZ (almost every game is rigged around the spread), Cricket, Soccer and Tennis.
 
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Posted: #5053
thoughts on allblacks line guys? 7.5 is way too high imo. on a given day aussie can beat allblacks and considering history it is probably going to happen
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Dpha003:

Liking the Panthers - 2.5 over the Eagles in the Sunday night game. Defensively similar statistically 3rd down percentage allowed, yards per game and points per game. Untill you look at penalties Eagles the most penalized defense with a massive 534 penalty yards so far this year. In contrast the panthers are the second least penalized defensive unit in the league (33 penalties & 246 total yards). 

Offensively Eagles have a really poor 3rd down conversion rate of just 30% by comparison league leaders, the patriots, complete 51% of third downs. That poor completion rate reflects the leagues worst average time in possession. Bradford has been horrible  they guy is good to throw two picks per game.

Eagles were lucky to win last week it was more a case of which team could be worse rather than the eagles rolling. 


 
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Posted: #5055
  Good stuff, Dpha003.


Yes, 7.5 seems a little high right, Serg.  It's very inviting to take the Wallabies at that number.......a little too inviting
 
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That's complete bull.  It's like saying a rapist in the US is more vicious than a rapist in the rest of the world.  If anything there's less corruption in US sport than the rest of the world because of the extreme spotlight on the games.  We pioneered the action from every angles, cameras in the locker room etc.  Yes, there is corruption but nothing compared to say, rugby in NZ (almost every game is rigged around the spread), Cricket, Soccer and Tennis.

Let's say one itm or any rugby games nz/ausi. How much people bet.  Let's say 100k, or 200k.   That's it..  Some more not many people bets these sports in the world.


Let's say any USA sports hmmm ok.  
Miami vs lakers.    How much people bet 10 million  or 50 millions. (. I'm sure it will be more than that) 
China to Somalia to around the world people bet for USA sports.  


It's not worthy to fix rugby always Vegas.     It's not against USA or anything.  I have been monitoring last 10-15 years.  

I never met  anybody who  makes  money out of USA sports. 


Ex.  I got one Ghanaian friend here.  He think he  knows USA sports very well.    He has been loosing for about last 10-15 years.  



Hi again this is my feeling.... 










 
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LOL. I hear you T2.  It's not that American sports are any more corrupt than other sports/countries. the real reason it's hard to make money in American sports is because the best lines makers in the world are Americans (who set the lines for NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB and college sports) and they are very, very good at what they do.

Rugby has only had betting since the 90s, that's a little baby compared to US sports.   We've had betting on baseball since the 1800s.  You're up against the best of the best.  It's that simple.

You have to know what you're doing or you get crushed.

BTW, soccer and tennis get more total action than any US sport.  The Superbowl is easily the heaviest wagered single event (game) on the planet but nobody knows the real numbers for any sport or league with untold number of offshore books.
 
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Posted: #5058
Quote Originally Posted by VEGAS25:

  Good stuff, Dpha003.


Yes, 7.5 seems a little high right, Serg.  It's very inviting to take the Wallabies at that number.......a little too inviting

allblacks are the better team no doubt but i expect aussie to show up and keep it close, it might sound crazy but i honestly expect either side to win by 3 point max with the game decided by a last minute penalty or something crazy like that. i guess time will tell 
 
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Posted: #5059
3 of 7 WC finals have been by 8 or more.  NZ definitely has the team to blow Australia out.  7 of the last 10 they've covered that number.  It should be close but if the All Black team who destroyed France shows up, Australia is toast.
 
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tennis and soccer and cricket = punter / player dynamics of fixing, low paid peripheral journeyman or pakistani cricketers are tsrgetted by high end punters and the cash on offer to these low paid sports players is the carrot which facilitates things eg tennis=very easy sport for a player to have a bad set or match etc, cricketer deliver certain deliveries, soccer goalies to let in goals etc etc

= corruption against the bookies

rugby is 99.9% instituitonal corruption = the ref is the keystone, supported by other match officials eg TMO = these people have their strings pulled and are suppoorted by the  institutions

so its bookies, competition organisers/ media/ advertisers and sponosors, national governments  

= corruption against the punter / consumer for the benefit of institutions

this is why it so sickening.  
 
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Posted: #5061
vegas25..you like anything in hockey tomorrow? im thinking maple leafs and the over.. thoughts
 
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a cock n hen on the Cardinals to win by 7-12 pts @ 7/2 for me this evening
 
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a cock n hen on the Cardinals to win by 7-12 pts @ 7/2 for me this evening
 
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Cam throws 3 picks and Philly loses by double digits. People blame Bradford but their receivers are garbage. Philly receivers might be leading the league in dropped passes. Chip getting rid of Maclin was a no no. He can't let his ego get in the way and get rid of all the talent on your team. This isn't college.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Stryc9Nine:

Cam throws 3 picks and Philly loses by double digits. People blame Bradford but their receivers are garbage. Philly receivers might be leading the league in dropped passes. Chip getting rid of Maclin was a no no. He can't let his ego get in the way and get rid of all the talent on your team. This isn't college.

i was thinking the same, cant believe they got 3 interceptions and still lost the game by double digits, had them +10.5 live and even that wasnt enough. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jabbathehutt:

tennis and soccer and cricket = punter / player dynamics of fixing, low paid peripheral journeyman or pakistani cricketers are tsrgetted by high end punters and the cash on offer to these low paid sports players is the carrot which facilitates things eg tennis=very easy sport for a player to have a bad set or match etc, cricketer deliver certain deliveries, soccer goalies to let in goals etc etc

= corruption against the bookies

rugby is 99.9% instituitonal corruption = the ref is the keystone, supported by other match officials eg TMO = these people have their strings pulled and are suppoorted by the  institutions

so its bookies, competition organisers/ media/ advertisers and sponosors, national governments  

= corruption against the punter / consumer for the benefit of institutions

this is why it so sickening.  

100% correct jabba
tennis players can lose a serve and it will look legit while some punter cashes on it well
 
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Posted: #5067
American sport is highly, highly, corrupt. Particulary NFL and NBA. Big public dogs on the ML, win less than 5% of the time. Ravens tonight an example of that.

Rugby union is pretty clean, except for parts of Europe. Aussie and NZ players alot of them bet on games but is 95% of the time, backing themselves, or something in the game which won't effect their team winning the game.
 
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It's crazy i remember few years ago I know nothing about mlb.   So I was looking for something to bet.   Then I saw Yankees to win 1.20.    I thought it looks easy money.   Coz Yankees is the best team..... 

Ding dong Yankees lost... 


Ok guys this week. 

England -2.0 vs nz.   ( rugby league)
Southafrica -8.5 vs. Argi ( wc)
Allblacks -6.5 vs ausi   (. Wc final)


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Davenz:

American sport is highly, highly, corrupt. Particulary NFL and NBA. Big public dogs on the ML, win less than 5% of the time. Ravens tonight an example of that.

Rugby union is pretty clean, except for parts of Europe. Aussie and NZ players alot of them bet on games but is 95% of the time, backing themselves, or something in the game which won't effect their team winning the game.


LOL.  Dave, you seem like a nice guy so don't take this personal but you're talking completely out of your ar$e.

We've had 7 weeks of the NFL and underdogs of 7 or more are 5-18, good for 22% upset rate.  This 5% is pure nonsense.

As for RUGBY having very little corruption, you need to stop drinking Kiwi Koolaid.   You don't need players to rig rugby, the ref can move the teams around the field at will.  It's probaby THE EASIEST SPORT ON THE PLANET TO FIX 

And how the fcuk would you know what percentage of players are betting on games and whether they're back themselves or not?  Lol.  Take the blinders off, mate seriously nobody can be that naive

 
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Quote Originally Posted by AucklandBoi:

vegas25..you like anything in hockey tomorrow? im thinking maple leafs and the over.. thoughts

Just saw your post now, dude.  Good job on that over.... I hope you didn't take the Leafs lol.  Blackhawks it was for me, they came thru in OT.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Target2million:

It's crazy i remember few years ago I know nothing about mlb.   So I was looking for something to bet.   Then I saw Yankees to win 1.20.    I thought it looks easy money.   Coz Yankees is the best team..... 

Ding dong Yankees lost...


Of course it lost.  The only one saying "easy money" is the bookie when you put 1.20 bets in.  Yanks haven't been the best team in baseball since the 90s, bar one World Series win in 09.

You're betting on sports you know nothing about and then claiming they're corrupt when you don't win

Come on, T2 you gotta be smarter than that.  Bookies love people who put bets in just to get some action.  They're little more than crackheads who will lose their a$$$$$es every time even if they win it's only temporary and will all go back with interest




 
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I'm not trying to tell you how to wager, T2 that's your business.  Just know I grew up in Las Vegas, the gambling capital of the world.  I've seen it all in this business.  People who play everything, lose everything.  It's that simple.
 
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LOL.  Dave, you seem like a nice guy so don't take this personal but you're talking completely out of your ar$e.

We've had 7 weeks of the NFL and underdogs of 7 or more are 5-18, good for 22% upset rate.  This 5% is pure nonsense.

As for RUGBY having very little corruption, you need to stop drinking Kiwi Koolaid.   You don't need players to rig rugby, the ref can move the teams around the field at will.  It's probaby THE EASIEST SPORT ON THE PLANET TO FIX 

And how the fcuk would you know what percentage of players are betting on games and whether they're back themselves or not?  Lol.  Take the blinders off, mate seriously nobody can be that naive


I couldn't care less, what u or any other stranger on the internet thinks of me. Since it has zero impact on my real life.

Are u retarded? I said "big public dogs" on the ML.

Yes re the rugby refs. At least u got a small part of your post right.

I have several bookmaker contacts, hence the rugby player stats.
 
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/73400315/mark-reason-nigel-owens-will-referee-the-rugby-world-cup-final-or-will-he

lucky 13 for allblacks?
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jabbathehutt:

a cock n hen on the Cardinals to win by 7-12 pts @ 7/2 for me this evening

all day yesterday i saw ppl going on about this match, ppl arguing if whether the minus or the plus would win..i know nothing @ am footy, but i do know on a monday night, those US cappers must clean up and they clever, stop arguing abou the cap, trust the bookies to be good, smother their good work........
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