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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:41 PM ET #751

    2 GUYS WITH MINI-PITCHFORKS!!!

    We are in excellent hands.

    Welcome to the Ukraine!!!

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    2 GUYS WITH MINI-PITCHFORKS!!!

    We are in excellent hands.

    Welcome to the Ukraine!!!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:43 PM ET #752

    Quote Originally Posted by wiggins:

    the games tomorrow are at the same time?

    Looks like all the rest are. Why would they do this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by wiggins:

    the games tomorrow are at the same time?

    Looks like all the rest are. Why would they do this??
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:49 PM ET #753

    Quote Originally Posted by P4P:

    Will Pinny keep the bets oustanding until the game is played or refund and make you bet again? The line has moved a lot since the open so it would cost a lot more to bet over 2 if having to do it again...

     

    Yes I believe Pinny will just keep the bets outstanding,,even if they play tomorrow,,Atleast thats what they did when i had a tennis match suspened because of rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P4P:

    Will Pinny keep the bets oustanding until the game is played or refund and make you bet again? The line has moved a lot since the open so it would cost a lot more to bet over 2 if having to do it again...

     

    Yes I believe Pinny will just keep the bets outstanding,,even if they play tomorrow,,Atleast thats what they did when i had a tennis match suspened because of rain.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #754

    Quote Originally Posted by Mixelpic:

     

    Yes I believe Pinny will just keep the bets outstanding,,even if they play tomorrow,,Atleast thats what they did when i had a tennis match suspened because of rain.



    They are gonna resume the game so the point is mute, but the match STARTED so therefore they would not refund the any outstanding wagers as the event would continue from the point left off at when it was suspended, if the match did not kickoff or start then the wager would likely be refunded at the majority of books, but some have different rules
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixelpic:

     

    Yes I believe Pinny will just keep the bets outstanding,,even if they play tomorrow,,Atleast thats what they did when i had a tennis match suspened because of rain.



    They are gonna resume the game so the point is mute, but the match STARTED so therefore they would not refund the any outstanding wagers as the event would continue from the point left off at when it was suspended, if the match did not kickoff or start then the wager would likely be refunded at the majority of books, but some have different rules
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:53 PM ET #755

    Slick surface, no puddles is good with me.

    Game on.

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    Slick surface, no puddles is good with me.

    Game on.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 12:55 PM ET #756

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    GL MW.  Lampard is injured BTW.

    I am thinking about adding on to my Sweden bet - I hear that England will be starting Carroll in addition to Wellbeck and Young.  That sounds like an offensive setup - so I will like Swedens chances.

    certainly, with the offensive set up brings mighty holes for the Swedish to get goals. It could go either way and depends on who gets lucky and who comes to play. I,m laying off taking England more and more, they usually do beter in the second half so i will be watchign the game and making live bet decision.

     

    I had a few beers last night and will keep my opinions to my own posts. Good going Van and best of luck the rest of the way.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    GL MW.  Lampard is injured BTW.

    I am thinking about adding on to my Sweden bet - I hear that England will be starting Carroll in addition to Wellbeck and Young.  That sounds like an offensive setup - so I will like Swedens chances.

    certainly, with the offensive set up brings mighty holes for the Swedish to get goals. It could go either way and depends on who gets lucky and who comes to play. I,m laying off taking England more and more, they usually do beter in the second half so i will be watchign the game and making live bet decision.

     

    I had a few beers last night and will keep my opinions to my own posts. Good going Van and best of luck the rest of the way.

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:04 PM ET #757

    Where's Tadpole?
    We need to get this BadBoy to 1000!!
                       
                           
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    Where's Tadpole?
    We need to get this BadBoy to 1000!!
                       
                           
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:04 PM ET #758

    Van- After reading some quotes from some of the Czech players and Rosicky himself..i think the chances Rosicky plays tomorrow are about 0%. And if he does he will be useless. Huge loss for the Czechs either way. Gotta really like Poland.
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    Van- After reading some quotes from some of the Czech players and Rosicky himself..i think the chances Rosicky plays tomorrow are about 0%. And if he does he will be useless. Huge loss for the Czechs either way. Gotta really like Poland.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:09 PM ET #759

    Question for you Van. Thoughts on Netherlands vs portugal Over? Gotta think the Dutch are just going to play all out offense and not really give a fuck.
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    Question for you Van. Thoughts on Netherlands vs portugal Over? Gotta think the Dutch are just going to play all out offense and not really give a fuck.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:15 PM ET #760

    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus:


    Looks like all the rest are. Why would they do this??


    Always do it so no team knows exactly what result they have to get before their game starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelus:


    Looks like all the rest are. Why would they do this??


    Always do it so no team knows exactly what result they have to get before their game starts.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:22 PM ET #761

    Quote Originally Posted by ndukechi:



    Always do it so no team knows exactly what result they have to get before their game starts.

    Ah. Thanks for the response. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by ndukechi:



    Always do it so no team knows exactly what result they have to get before their game starts.

    Ah. Thanks for the response. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:28 PM ET #762

    Fuck you Menez.  Seriously.  Fuck you.
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    Fuck you Menez.  Seriously.  Fuck you.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:29 PM ET #763

    Not getting a better chance than that. Just abysmal finish.

    A goal is coming though...

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    Not getting a better chance than that. Just abysmal finish.

    A goal is coming though...

     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:36 PM ET #764

    This might just end up like the first ukraine game. A bit of a slow start but not due to lack of scoring chances. Goalies are playing well though
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    This might just end up like the first ukraine game. A bit of a slow start but not due to lack of scoring chances. Goalies are playing well though
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 1:40 PM ET #765

    I can't figure out how this is scoreless.
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    I can't figure out how this is scoreless.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 2:00 PM ET #766

    Menez needs to be substituted, ASAP
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    Menez needs to be substituted, ASAP
     
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    Posted: Jun. 15, 2012 - 2:04 PM ET #767

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Results:
    10 - 2.5 - 1 WLP
    +12.00 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN
    13. Italy Pk and -.5 for 4 units - HALF LOSS
    14. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units
    Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    15. Ukraine / France - I keep hearing how France played vs England - the slow pace - the inability to create etc. But clearly the pace of that game was dictated by England - not France.

    That is not how France wants to play. And that is not how the Ukraine plays either. This theme of this game will be space. There will be space to operate where England allowed very little. Ukraine gives up the space in a trade off with their counter abilities - and they dont mind just trying to outscore you. Gusev goes up just about as much as anyone in football - and leaves space behind him willingly.

    I do think France has the advantage here - and will win - but in a choice between the side and the total I decided to keep it all on the total. I was very surprised to see this at 2, was expecting to see 2.5 juiced to the over. But I was tempted to put money on France as well. So for me it is Ukr / Fra over 2 -120 for 3 units. Most likely result France 2-1.

    16. Sweden / England: England has me nervous. I am still a big seller on their talent - but I do believe they are playing a system - the only system - that they can possibly have success with - and they seem to be playing it well. France had no ideas in the second half - and resorted to just shooting from range. France simply could not break down the 2 banks of 4 for England - which by the way have been the most organized of any team in the tournament. Every time France came down - you could freeze your dvr and count "1, 2, 3, 4" times 2 sitting back, compact, and no space between. That is hard to break down.

    But it is also hard to score out of that formation - unless you are OK with getting 3 shots hoping to score on 1 of them. The balls came out of the back up to Young or Wellbeck who were often left facing 5 defenders by themselves. Not going to work too often.

    Sweden looked dangerous to the extremes against Ukraine - dangerous in the form of Ibrahimovic - and dangerous also in the back as they gave up way too much space and too many chances for the Ukraine. This is not the Swedish way.

    So for me - if England come out - play the same style - play for a draw and hope Rooney against Ukraine is their ticket to the next round - they will be hard to score on. But being able to take a half goal in this one with Swe - I fell pretty good about that. I only hope that when England get their limited chances - Sweden limits the quality of those chances - which definitely scares me.

    Im going with Swe +.5 -130 for 1 unit. Most likely result 1-1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Results:
    10 - 2.5 - 1 WLP
    +12.00 units

    1. Greece +.5 at +112 1 unit - WIN
    2. Russia to win at +128 for 3 units - WIN
    3. Dutch -170 for 2 units - LOSS
    4. Germany -.5 -105 for 1 unit - WIN
    5. Germany under 2.5 -107 for 1 unit - WIN
    6. Italy +.5 and +1 -105 for 2.5 units - WIN
    7. Croatia -.5 +120 for 1.5 units - WIN
    8. France PK -120 5 units - PUSH
    9. Swe/Ukr over 2 -126 3 units - WIN
    10. Russia +142 3 units - LOSS
    11. Czech PK and -.5 +108 1.5 units - WIN
    12. Portugal -.5 +102 for 2 units - WIN
    13. Italy Pk and -.5 for 4 units - HALF LOSS
    14. Spain -1.5 -110 for 2 units - WIN

    Futures:

    Italy to win the tournament +1425. 2 units
    England to come in last in group D anywhere from +500 to +600. 3 units
    England not to win the group at -210. 2 units
    England to go under 5.5 points in the group anywhere from PK to -150. 3 units
    Ukraine to advance from group D +145. 2 units
    Russia to win group A +170. 3 units
    Republic of Ireland to finish last in Group C -125. 3 units.
    Denmark to finish last in group B -167. 2 units.

    Upcoming:

    15. Ukraine / France - I keep hearing how France played vs England - the slow pace - the inability to create etc. But clearly the pace of that game was dictated by England - not France.

    That is not how France wants to play. And that is not how the Ukraine plays either. This theme of this game will be space. There will be space to operate where England allowed very little. Ukraine gives up the space in a trade off with their counter abilities - and they dont mind just trying to outscore you. Gusev goes up just about as much as anyone in football - and leaves space behind him willingly.

    I do think France has the advantage here - and will win - but in a choice between the side and the total I decided to keep it all on the total. I was very surprised to see this at 2, was expecting to see 2.5 juiced to the over. But I was tempted to put money on France as well. So for me it is Ukr / Fra over 2 -120 for 3 units. Most likely result France 2-1.

    16. Sweden / England: England has me nervous. I am still a big seller on their talent - but I do believe they are playing a system - the only system - that they can possibly have success with - and they seem to be playing it well. France had no ideas in the second half - and resorted to just shooting from range. France simply could not break down the 2 banks of 4 for England - which by the way have been the most organized of any team in the tournament. Every time France came down - you could freeze your dvr and count "1, 2, 3, 4" times 2 sitting back, compact, and no space between. That is hard to break down.

    But it is also hard to score out of that formation - unless you are OK with getting 3 shots hoping to score on 1 of them. The balls came out of the back up to Young or Wellbeck who were often left facing 5 defenders by themselves. Not going to work too often.

    Sweden looked dangerous to the extremes against Ukraine - dangerous in the form of Ibrahimovic - and dangerous also in the back as they gave up way too much space and too many chances for the Ukraine. This is not the Swedish way.

    So for me - if England come out - play the same style - play for a draw and hope Rooney against Ukraine is their ticket to the next round - they will be hard to score on. But being able to take a half goal in this one with Swe - I fell pretty good about that. I only hope that when England get their limited chances - Sweden limits the quality of those chances - which definitely scares me.

    Im going with Swe +.5 -130 for 1 unit. Most likely result 1-1.


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    Luckily they didn't.
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    Menez needs to be substituted, ASAP

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    Menez redeems himself. 1-0 France
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    LOL GET MENEZ OUT..........GOAL

    Menez been getting looks. Bound to put one in.

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    Menez is a beast ;) His movements create all french opportunities!
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    Uno Mas Por Favor!!!  Stay hot kid
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    Allez Les Bleus!!! How about one more, even if it's from the Ukraine!
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