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i am running all 3 lines myself
 
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So what is your beginning line for say the SJ game at -170?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

do5000, the lines from an A loss @ -170 to win 100 would look like this:
 
85-50-50-50-50-85. Or could look like this 50-50-50-50-170
 
So, the A line with the loss of 170, for conservative recovery, puts 85 on either end yielding a 170.
OR, it has 50 on one end and 170 on the other for a more aggressive recovery, which yields 220.
 
The confusion comes on betting to win amounts versus amounts you are betting. To me, the numbers represent the amount I am trying to win, b/c with a starting 50-50-50-50 line, the outside numbers equal 100, so I laid 170 to win that 100. This could be wrong though. maybe it should be lay 100, which would win about 60.
 
Clarification needed here guys. How do you do it?
 

 

I REALLY appreciate the help.

It was getting confusing.

If i understand correctly, there is one line per game in the chase. meaning if i lose a B bet, i try to recoup my losses on future B bets only?

is it sort of like playing A games and B games separately?

 
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do5000, you would only have two lines, A and B.
 
Here is JV's post from the new morisson NHL thread, the example is using a $10 starting line, odds are -170 (they were using 172, but I changed for math ease).
It splits the losses amongst both a and b lines equally. So whether you lost an A or B, the losses are put equally on to both lines. But a win would erase the outside numbers from the line you are playing on that night. If you have multiple games going, you would take the total profit or loss from all of the games and add or take away from the lines accordingly:
 
5 5 5 5 (A games)
 
5 5 5 5 (B games)
 
if A line fails split your $17 loss between A and B line like this
 
5 5 5 5  8.50
 
5 5 5 5  8.50
 
also if B line fails the split that loss between A and B line.
 
So assuming a B loss at odds of -170 too, the next series would be played off your new lines of:
 
5 5 5 5 8.50 8.50 OR 5 5 5 5 17
 
5 5 5 5 8.50 8.50 OR 5 5 5 5 17
 
Next A bet would be 5 + 8.50 or 5 + 17. So you would bet to win either 13.50 or 22 depending how much you want to spread out losses.
 
 
one more thing is that 8.50 can also be rounded up to 10$ for easier to figure out math.
 
Hope this makes sense.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

do5000, you would only have two lines, A and B.
 
Here is JV's post from the new morisson NHL thread, the example is using a $10 starting line, odds are -170 (they were using 172, but I changed for math ease).
It splits the losses amongst both a and b lines equally. So whether you lost an A or B, the losses are put equally on to both lines. But a win would erase the outside numbers from the line you are playing on that night. If you have multiple games going, you would take the total profit or loss from all of the games and add or take away from the lines accordingly:
 
5 5 5 5 (A games)
 
5 5 5 5 (B games)
 
if A line fails split your $17 loss between A and B line like this
 
5 5 5 5  8.50
 
5 5 5 5  8.50
 
also if B line fails the split that loss between A and B line.
 
So assuming a B loss at odds of -170 too, the next series would be played off your new lines of:
 
5 5 5 5 8.50 8.50 OR 5 5 5 5 17
 
5 5 5 5 8.50 8.50 OR 5 5 5 5 17
 
Next A bet would be 5 + 8.50 or 5 + 17. So you would bet to win either 13.50 or 22 depending how much you want to spread out losses.
 
 
one more thing is that 8.50 can also be rounded up to 10$ for easier to figure out math.
 
Hope this makes sense.

 

Nolemonasses, this is exactly what i was looking for. thanks for the help. (I thought i would need a new set of lines for each team that i chase.)

good luck tonight

 
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Posted: #156
Does anyone have his actual NHL email? Because I read somewhere that one of the filters was to make sure at least one of the away games was against a team from the opposite conference. And if that's true then San Jose does not qualify tonight.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

Hanjoon, what JM says is for you to buy his system because you are too dumb or impatient to READ A THREAD FROM THE BEGINNING AND TO COMPREHEND WHAT YOU ARE READING to figure out how the systems work and when the 1st wagers are.
 
You are like the guy in college who never came to class all semester, then shows up to the final exam and asks people if you can borrow a #2 pencil and their calculator.
 
Buy the damn systems so you have the instructions and JM will email you the picks as they come up.
 
Even then, I still don't think you will understand what to do.


I thought the next play was: Phoenix Coyotes OCT 3
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

Hanjoon, the 1st NHL play is Roger Federer -420.
 
Again, READ THE FRIGGIN' THREAD. IT's ALREADY POSTED ON THIS VERY PAGE! If you did not see that or understand it, you should not be betting anything. Or driving or reproducing for that matter.

I thought the next play was: Phoenix Coyotes OCT 3
 
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hey guys...first post...this jm system intrigues me and led me to this ite...is there a thread where we can find daily jm wagers?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SKiLLsSoLoN:



I thought the next play was: Phoenix Coyotes OCT 3


1. don't play first series of season or last for any team
 
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todays plays are sj and pho and so far the only 2 rules are to play on the money line if the team is favored and to play on the 1 1/2 goal line if not favored. 
 
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there are NO OFFICIAL Morrison plays today. San Jose is not playing anyone from the opposite conference in their 3 game road trip and these are both inside the first road series for both teams. Morrisons filters for this system state that due to these factors these games are not official plays. So play at your own risk.
 
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A variation of what we got going on here is this
What do you all think????????

To give credit where its do I copied and pasted it by Mcbain at SBR




I posted about this possible NHL system in the NBA thread where we have been following the Morrison NBA system and I suggested it might work for hockey.

Good and bad news so far after going through this season's data in the NHL, looking for a possible any 3-game road trip A-B-C series betting system.

This season so far if one was to bet every visiting team heading out on a 3 game road trip (and split 6-game trip into two bets) on a straight moneyline bet record would be:

76 A wins
43 B wins
17 C wins

for 136 total wins which sounds nice.

However, you would encounter, if you bet moneyline with no filters:

27 losses

Your record is 136-27 and with series betting you are down for the season.

So with those numbers we have no system.

HOWEVER, if we bet the +1.5 line on all our road teams (when available and looking at the games only one team would have been favored on the road, DET), we would see

22 of those losses turn to wins
as there was at least one game in the series where our team lost by 1 goal.

Further, if we eliminated playing teams in the second 3 of a 6-game roadie, we could eiminate another

3 losses (and one of those was DET)

So we are down to 2 outright losses

The last filter that we could apply would be to elminate betting on the teams with the 5 worst road records (or 4 or 3, something like that).

That would eliminate another loss as OTT would not have been a play.

That would leave us with ONE outright loss, Carolina series starting on Jan. 8 of this year.

So applying a +1.5 betting strategy, skip the second 3 games of the long trips, don't bet on the absolute worst road teams, you could come up with a record of

145-1

(the original 136 wins plus the 22 gained by betting +1.5, take off 13 wins by skipping second set of 3 on 6-game trips and taking off the losses that simply would not have been bet.)

Is that clear to everyone? I'm sure not.

Anyway, that's all I've got. If this would work for previous seasons I am not sure yet but I invite anyone to take a look.




So there it is........
Again I am down for what's in the wings and much appriciative for Kong Bringing this to light........
Just figure I'd throw this on the wall and see if it sticks............
Let's rock guys..... See ya on the other side






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Posted: 9/28/2009 10:21:26 PM
MCBAIN NHL SYSTEM RULES:
(the 1st post of this thread tells you everything you need to know)

It is very simple. We bet NHL road teams when they go on road trips of at least 3 games. When the team is the favorite, bet moneyline. When the team is the underdog, bet puckline +1.5.

Make A bet, if it loses bet B so you still profit, if it loses bet C so you still profit on the entire series.

Using these filters should work for 09-10:
1. don't play first series of season or last for any team
2. don't play second series of 3 on any road trip
3. play +1.5 whenever available
4. eliminate teams with losing road records once at least 25 games have been played. (At start of year, could use road records from last season but that is iffy).
possible 5. do not play against top 2-3 RPI teams when they are at home





Again......... More copying and stuff
If this might help us........... Cool
If not.......... I understand - no need to reinvent the wheel
Thanks Kong..............
 
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Posted: #164
Quote Originally Posted by hoop121:

there are NO OFFICIAL Morrison plays today. San Jose is not playing anyone from the opposite conference in their 3 game road trip and these are both inside the first road series for both teams. Morrisons filters for this system state that due to these factors these games are not official plays. So play at your own risk.

 

This guy is an idiot.  Out of conference games is only for his NBA system.

 
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Posted: #165
Hectar,
 
Did you buy Morrison's NHL system?
 
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I thought that this was the MODIFIED morrison NHL system and that regardless we have MODIFIED the plays to filter out a couple of items one being that we DONT CARE whether or not they have an opponent from out of conference.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jv040:

todays plays are sj and pho and so far the only 2 rules are to play on the money line if the team is favored and to play on the 1 1/2 goal line if not favored. 
jv40, I am seeing from other sites that JM has changed his NHL to a newer version, if you stick with last years(original)version yes you are correct and they would be plays, but now I am hearing(nothing positive) his new nhl is that at least 1 of the chase games must be from a different conference.  I quess kind of like Morrison's WNBA systems, where at least 1 game must be out of conference. Anyway time will tell, because like I said I have no positive proof, just what I am finding from other sites. anyway gl
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ketut:

jv40, I am seeing from other sites that JM has changed his NHL to a newer version, if you stick with last years(original)version yes you are correct and they would be plays, but now I am hearing(nothing positive) his new nhl is that at least 1 of the chase games must be from a different conference.  I quess kind of like Morrison's WNBA systems, where at least 1 game must be out of conference. Anyway time will tell, because like I said I have no positive proof, just what I am finding from other sites. anyway gl
Thanks ketut, I'm also hearing the same thing, Apparently someone got hold of it. If you think about it, I would say yes its the new system. Besides WNBA didnt Morrison  make some kind of change with his NBA  like that, Is it version 2 or 3, or some kind of shit like that. He uses this as a filter with some of his other sports so it only makes sense to use it for nhl also.
 
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Posted: #169
Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

 

This guy is an idiot.  Out of conference games is only for his NBA system.

Hectar, listen and learn. If you monitor the multiple wagering blog sites, you would know that JM is introducing a new V2 NHL system "with only 1 documented C loss" This NEW system looks for 3 game road trip w/ one team cross conference.

Thanks Hoop121 for sharing.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by nolemonasses:

do5000, you would only have two lines, A and B.
 
Here is JV's post from the new morisson NHL thread, the example is using a $10 starting line, odds are -170 (they were using 172, but I changed for math ease).
It splits the losses amongst both a and b lines equally. So whether you lost an A or B, the losses are put equally on to both lines. But a win would erase the outside numbers from the line you are playing on that night. If you have multiple games going, you would take the total profit or loss from all of the games and add or take away from the lines accordingly:
 
5 5 5 5 (A games)
 
5 5 5 5 (B games)
 
if A line fails split your $17 loss between A and B line like this
 
5 5 5 5  8.50
 
5 5 5 5  8.50
 
also if B line fails the split that loss between A and B line.
 
So assuming a B loss at odds of -170 too, the next series would be played off your new lines of:
 
5 5 5 5 8.50 8.50 OR 5 5 5 5 17
 
5 5 5 5 8.50 8.50 OR 5 5 5 5 17
 
Next A bet would be 5 + 8.50 or 5 + 17. So you would bet to win either 13.50 or 22 depending how much you want to spread out losses.
 
 
one more thing is that 8.50 can also be rounded up to 10$ for easier to figure out math.
 
Hope this makes sense.
Could you clarify when you raise the lines by 10%.  Is it after clearing AN A line twice or B line twice? Or is it clearing an A line once and B line once???
 
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Posted: #171
with only one documented loss in 5 years and with JM winning al of his official C bets in baseball...
 
I wonder if running and open parlay for only C bets would pay out more time than not...
 
maybe start off with a 4 team open parlay. then move to a 5 team or something.
 
you'd have to be patient, but I think there would be a very nice risk/reward ratio with this strategy.
 
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Posted: #172
I'm just trying to figure out when we are playing.

So a team that goes on the road and play atleast 2 games? We play the first 2 games. Using
https://platinumsportsinvesting.com/labourchere.aspx

Do I have this right?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by roguewager:

Hectar, listen and learn. If you monitor the multiple wagering blog sites, you would know that JM is introducing a new V2 NHL system "with only 1 documented C loss" This NEW system looks for 3 game road trip w/ one team cross conference.

Thanks Hoop121 for sharing.

YADA, YADA then how come nobody has posted it???  All speculation.  While you guys sit and wait for another week, I'm cashing in. MON, SJ, PHO, and I even play home series since I believe a team will most likely win 1 of 3 at home then on the road, like BOS and I even had STL over DET.  Think about it, why do you play unofficial plays in baseball and not in Hockey.  Some people just need to wake up.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by HECTAR:

YADA, YADA then how come nobody has posted it???  All speculation.  While you guys sit and wait for another week, I'm cashing in. MON, SJ, PHO, and I even play home series since I believe a team will most likely win 1 of 3 at home then on the road, like BOS and I even had STL over DET.  Think about it, why do you play unofficial plays in baseball and not in Hockey.  Some people just need to wake up.

Why did you have St.Louis over Detroit ?

 
 
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Because the schedule showed STL home for 3 games.  Even though they were overseas for the first I decided to play it and it hit....
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