Have you ever considered using a separate Labby line per team? I'm trying it with NFL this season because with so many bets on the same day/time, I feel a single or 3-line labby gets confusing, so I have in independent line per team.
For example, after week 1 Bears: 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 22, Houston X - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - X.
Any feedback/thoughts/suggestions are appreciated!
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Hey Rizz; (& GMSI)
Have you ever considered using a separate Labby line per team? I'm trying it with NFL this season because with so many bets on the same day/time, I feel a single or 3-line labby gets confusing, so I have in independent line per team.
For example, after week 1 Bears: 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - 22, Houston X - 10 - 10 - 10 - 10 - X.
Any feedback/thoughts/suggestions are appreciated!
Yes this is correct. I take half of my losses and add them to the last number in that line and drop half to the line below.
For example say we have the following lines when we start a new series with -150 odds
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
We lose 15 trying to win 10. I will take 7.5 and add to line 1 and 2
5-5-5-12.5
5-5-5-12.5
5-5-5-5
so if i understand this correctly, u add in half of the money from a series loss to your regular unit for the next series to make your money back? Sorry for being stupid but in 6 years of betting ive never used a system like this
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Quote Originally Posted by therizz:
Yes this is correct. I take half of my losses and add them to the last number in that line and drop half to the line below.
For example say we have the following lines when we start a new series with -150 odds
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
We lose 15 trying to win 10. I will take 7.5 and add to line 1 and 2
5-5-5-12.5
5-5-5-12.5
5-5-5-5
so if i understand this correctly, u add in half of the money from a series loss to your regular unit for the next series to make your money back? Sorry for being stupid but in 6 years of betting ive never used a system like this
Rizz, I've been experimenting with your aggressive Labby and have formed a hybrid that helps spread out the damage from a high juice loss. What I do is take a quarter of the loser and add a new number to the line where the bet was made and then spread out the other 3/4 of the loser over all the numbers on all the lines I'm working including the just added number.
10-10-10-10 Bet 40/20 on a -200 bet loser
10-10-10-10
Lines look like this after the loss:
13.33-13.33-13.33-13.33-13.33
13.33-13.33-13.33-13.33
Sometimes a quarter of the loss will go at the front end of the line but it really doesn't matter as long as it is one end or the other.
This doesn't clear lines as fast as the aggressive Labby but it really helps if you hit a couple of big juice losers in a row and still provides a pretty good return on your bankroll just hitting 50% of your games. In hockey I think we'll be dealing with a lot higher juice than baseball.
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Rizz, I've been experimenting with your aggressive Labby and have formed a hybrid that helps spread out the damage from a high juice loss. What I do is take a quarter of the loser and add a new number to the line where the bet was made and then spread out the other 3/4 of the loser over all the numbers on all the lines I'm working including the just added number.
10-10-10-10 Bet 40/20 on a -200 bet loser
10-10-10-10
Lines look like this after the loss:
13.33-13.33-13.33-13.33-13.33
13.33-13.33-13.33-13.33
Sometimes a quarter of the loss will go at the front end of the line but it really doesn't matter as long as it is one end or the other.
This doesn't clear lines as fast as the aggressive Labby but it really helps if you hit a couple of big juice losers in a row and still provides a pretty good return on your bankroll just hitting 50% of your games. In hockey I think we'll be dealing with a lot higher juice than baseball.
Well...first of all, I recommend you to read the whole thread, specially the first posts of therizz. Then you'll see it is a chase system, so you gotta be careful.
The first play for tomorrow Washington Capitals -150 ML. I'll be playing regulation line whenever the favorite is -180 or more. (It means the team must win on the regulation, it the game goes to overtime is a loss, but you risk less juice.
For those who wonder the difference between playing money line and Regulation. For tomorrow's game The Washington Capitals are -155 favorite on the Money Line, but playing them on regulation you got them EVEN (+100).
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Well...first of all, I recommend you to read the whole thread, specially the first posts of therizz. Then you'll see it is a chase system, so you gotta be careful.
The first play for tomorrow Washington Capitals -150 ML. I'll be playing regulation line whenever the favorite is -180 or more. (It means the team must win on the regulation, it the game goes to overtime is a loss, but you risk less juice.
For those who wonder the difference between playing money line and Regulation. For tomorrow's game The Washington Capitals are -155 favorite on the Money Line, but playing them on regulation you got them EVEN (+100).
1st play of the season for NHL would be WAS tonight
0-0-0
Series#1 7:05 nj @ WAS -155 to win 1U
labby lines
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
I don't know how well I am going to be able to stay on top of this due to some personal issues and my work schedule. Please if you see plays post them. Should be pretty straightforward, The disclaimer is I only backtested this and have never actually played this for a NHL season.
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Hey guys,
1st play of the season for NHL would be WAS tonight
0-0-0
Series#1 7:05 nj @ WAS -155 to win 1U
labby lines
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
I don't know how well I am going to be able to stay on top of this due to some personal issues and my work schedule. Please if you see plays post them. Should be pretty straightforward, The disclaimer is I only backtested this and have never actually played this for a NHL season.
1st play of the season for NHL would be WAS tonight
0-0-0
Series#1 7:05 nj @ WAS -155 to win 1U
labby lines
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
I don't know how well I am going to be able to stay on top of this due to some personal issues and my work schedule. Please if you see plays post them. Should be pretty straightforward, The disclaimer is I only backtested this and have never actually played this for a NHL season.
Welcome back Rizz! Let's do this and have a great season!
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Quote Originally Posted by therizz:
Hey guys,
1st play of the season for NHL would be WAS tonight
0-0-0
Series#1 7:05 nj @ WAS -155 to win 1U
labby lines
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
5-5-5-5
I don't know how well I am going to be able to stay on top of this due to some personal issues and my work schedule. Please if you see plays post them. Should be pretty straightforward, The disclaimer is I only backtested this and have never actually played this for a NHL season.
Welcome back Rizz! Let's do this and have a great season!
2008 is NOT profitable. Its a great idea, dont get me wrong. Too many losses to be profitable chasing. I've built a program to run the results under the labouchere method and it would be profitable in 2009 but not in 2008. Odds can be high so straight betters may not be profitable.
We need a system that stands the test of time with odds that don't break the bank. Keep up the great work Rizz, i'm searching for an answer as well ;)
2008 is NOT profitable. Its a great idea, dont get me wrong. Too many losses to be profitable chasing. I've built a program to run the results under the labouchere method and it would be profitable in 2009 but not in 2008. Odds can be high so straight betters may not be profitable.
We need a system that stands the test of time with odds that don't break the bank. Keep up the great work Rizz, i'm searching for an answer as well ;)
if you are winning 62% of your bets and using the agressive labby lines, i don't see how it can't work. it may very well be expensive if the odds are high, but how could the lines not clear themselves?
can you give us an example where it doesn't work?
Rizz went thru the whole MLB season using such a method and it worked. Odds were high at times and lines got fat at times, but if you have the balls and bankroll they would clear.
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if you are winning 62% of your bets and using the agressive labby lines, i don't see how it can't work. it may very well be expensive if the odds are high, but how could the lines not clear themselves?
can you give us an example where it doesn't work?
Rizz went thru the whole MLB season using such a method and it worked. Odds were high at times and lines got fat at times, but if you have the balls and bankroll they would clear.
Well...first of all, I recommend you to read the whole thread, specially the first posts of therizz. Then you'll see it is a chase system, so you gotta be careful.
The first play for tomorrow Washington Capitals -150 ML. I'll be playing regulation line whenever the favorite is -180 or more. (It means the team must win on the regulation, it the game goes to overtime is a loss, but you risk less juice.
For those who wonder the difference between playing money line and Regulation. For tomorrow's game The Washington Capitals are -155 favorite on the Money Line, but playing them on regulation you got them EVEN (+100).
I can't find the regulation line at any of my books. Which books have it? thanks
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Quote Originally Posted by gentruchi:
Well...first of all, I recommend you to read the whole thread, specially the first posts of therizz. Then you'll see it is a chase system, so you gotta be careful.
The first play for tomorrow Washington Capitals -150 ML. I'll be playing regulation line whenever the favorite is -180 or more. (It means the team must win on the regulation, it the game goes to overtime is a loss, but you risk less juice.
For those who wonder the difference between playing money line and Regulation. For tomorrow's game The Washington Capitals are -155 favorite on the Money Line, but playing them on regulation you got them EVEN (+100).
I can't find the regulation line at any of my books. Which books have it? thanks
Hopefully PHI pulls this out. Looks like LA is a play for tomorrow.
Just want to express caution again. I know little about hockey. The potential strength for this system will be the aggressive labby and high win percentages. You will need a good sized bankroll relative to your play size to be successful with this (if it is like MLB) but over the grind of the season we will hopefully be in the black. I have not played this before this year and have no idea how it will go. Good luck whatever you decide
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Hopefully PHI pulls this out. Looks like LA is a play for tomorrow.
Just want to express caution again. I know little about hockey. The potential strength for this system will be the aggressive labby and high win percentages. You will need a good sized bankroll relative to your play size to be successful with this (if it is like MLB) but over the grind of the season we will hopefully be in the black. I have not played this before this year and have no idea how it will go. Good luck whatever you decide
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