• Forums
  • Best Betting Sites
  • Sportsbook Promos
  • Best Sports Betting Apps
  • NFL Betting Forum
  • NBA Betting Forum
  • MLB Betting Forum
  • NHL Betting Forum
  • NCAAF Betting Forum
  • NCAAB Betting Forum
  • Soccer Betting Forum
  • Tennis Betting Forum
  • General Discussion
  • Help Forum
  • Guidelines
  • FAQ
  • Forum Updates
    Covers Logo
    Covers App
    Faster picks. Smarter bets.
    All in the NEW Covers App
    Download on the App Store Download on the Google Play Store
    • Sports
      • NFL
        • Back
        • NFL
        • NFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NFL Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NCAAF
        • Back
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAF Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NCAAF Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NBA
        • Back
        • NBA
        • NBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • NCAAB
        • Back
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • NCAAB Picks
        • Injuries
      • MLB
        • Back
        • MLB
        • MLB Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • MLB Picks
        • Weather
        • Injuries
      • NHL
        • Back
        • NHL
        • NHL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • Prop Projections
        • NHL Picks
        • Injuries
      • Soccer
      • UFC
      • WNBA
        • Back
        • WNBA
        • WNBA Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • WNBA Picks
        • Injuries
      • CFL
        • Back
        • CFL
        • CFL Home
        • Scores & Matchups
        • CFL Picks
      • Golf
        • Back
        • Golf
        • Golf Home
        • Golf Odds
        • Masters Odds
        • PGA Championship Odds
        • US Open Odds
        • British Open Odds
        • Ryder Cup Odds
        • Golf Picks
    • Odds
      • All Odds
      • NFL
      • NCAAF
      • NBA
      • NCAAB
      • MLB
      • NHL
      • Golf
      • Soccer Odds
        • Back
        • Soccer Odds
        • MLS Odds
        • Champions League Odds
        • Premier League Odds
      • UFC
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • Election Odds
      • Futures
        • Back
        • Futures
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • MLB
        • NHL
        • NCAAB
        • NCAAF
      • Sports Odds History
    • Picks
      • All Picks
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • NHL
      • MLB
      • NCAAF
      • NCAAB
      • Golf
      • WNBA
      • CFL
      • User Picks
      • Team User Picks
      • Consensus Picks
        • Back
        • Consensus Picks
        • All Consensus Picks
        • NFL
        • NBA
        • NHL
        • MLB
        • NCAAF
        • NCAAB
        • CFL
        • WNBA
        • Consensus FAQ
        • Public Money
    • Prop Projections
      • NFL
      • NBA
      • MLB
      • NHL
    • Betting
      • US Betting Sites
      • Canada Betting Sites
      • Sportsbook Reviews
      • States
        • Back
        • States
        • US Legal Tracker
        • Revenue Tracker
        • Arizona
        • Arkansas
        • California
        • Colorado
        • Connecticut
        • DC
        • Florida
        • Georgia
        • Illinois
        • Indiana
        • Iowa
        • Kansas
        • Kentucky
        • Louisiana
        • Maine
        • Maryland
        • Massachusetts
        • Michigan
        • Mississippi
        • Missouri
        • Nevada
        • New Hampshire
        • New Jersey
        • New York
        • North Carolina
        • Ohio
        • Oregon
        • Pennsylvania
        • Tennessee
        • Texas
        • Vermont
        • Virginia
        • West Virginia
        • Wyoming
      • Provinces
        • Back
        • Provinces
        • Alberta
        • British Columbia
        • Manitoba
        • New Brunswick
        • Newfoundland and Labrador
        • Northwest Territories
        • Nova Scotia
        • Nunavut
        • Ontario
        • Prince Edward Island
        • Quebec (English)
        • Quebec (francais)
        • Saskatchewan
        • Yukon
      • By Sport
        • Back
        • By Sport
        • Baseball
        • Basketball
        • Boxing
        • College Football
        • F1
        • Football
        • Super Bowl
        • Golf
        • Hockey
        • Horse Racing
        • March Madness
        • Soccer
        • UFC
        • World Cup
      • Betting Apps
        • Back
        • Betting Apps
        • Best Sports Betting Apps USA
        • Ontario Sports Betting Apps
      • Rest of World
        • Back
        • Rest of World
        • UK Betting Offers
          • Back
          • UK Betting Offers
          • UK Betting Sites
          • bet365 Bonus Code UK
          • 888Sport Promo Code UK
          • William Hill Sign up Offer
          • Betway Sign up Offer
          • BetVictor Bonus Code UK
      • Betting Guides
        • Back
        • Betting Guides
        • All Guides
        • Glossary
        • Betting Calculators
          • Back
          • Betting Calculators
          • Odds Converter
          • Parlay Calculator
        • Futures Betting Guide
        • Moneyline Betting Guide
        • Over/Under Betting Guide
        • Parlay Betting Guide
        • Point Spread Betting Guide
        • Prop Betting Guide
        • Sports Betting Guides
          • Back
          • Sports Betting Guides
          • How To Bet On Sports Guide
          • NFL Betting Guide
          • NHL Betting Guide
          • NBA Betting Guide
          • MLB Betting Guide
          • NCAAB Betting Guide
          • NCAAF Betting Guide
          • Golf Betting Guide
          • Tennis Betting Guide
        • Teaser Betting Guide
      • Betting News
        • Back
        • Betting News
        • All News
        • Industry News
        • Podcasts
        • Covers Videos
        • Covers Writers
        • Offers & Boosts
    • Promos
      • Sportsbook Promos
      • Canada Sportsbook Promos
      • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Sportsbook
        • bet365 Bonus Code
        • BET99 Promo Code
        • BetMGM Bonus Code
        • BetRivers Bonus Code
        • Caesars Sportsbook Promo
        • DraftKings Promo Code
        • Fanatics Sportsbook Promo
        • FanDuel Promo Code
        • Hard Rock Bet Promo Code
        • Sports Interaction Promo
        • Stake Promo Code
        • theScore Bet Promo Code
        • TonyBet Promo Code
      • Bonuses By Region
        • Back
        • Bonuses By Region
        • Arkansas Promos
        • Arizona Promos
        • Colorado Promos
        • Connecticut Promos
        • DC Promos
        • Illinois Promos
        • Indiana Promos
        • Iowa Promos
        • Kansas Promos
        • Kentucky Promos
        • Louisiana Promos
        • Maine Promos
        • Maryland Promos
        • Massachusetts Promos
        • Michigan Promos
        • Missouri Promos
        • New Jersey Promos
        • New York Promos
        • North Carolina Promos
        • Ohio Promos
        • Pennsylvania Promos
        • Tennessee Promos
        • Vermont Promos
        • Virginia Promos
        • West Virginia Promos
        • Wyoming Promos
    • Forum & Contests
      • All Forums
      • NFL Betting Forum
      • MLB Betting Forum
      • NCAAB Betting Forum
      • NCAAF Betting Forum
      • NBA Betting Forum
      • NHL Betting Forum
      • Soccer Betting Forum
      • Contests
        • Back
        • Contests
        • Contests Home
        • Streak Survivor
        • King of Covers
        • My Contests
    • Casino
      • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Back
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes Casino
        • Sweepstakes No-Deposit Bonuses
        • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Back
          • Sweepstakes Promos
          • Card Crush
          • Casino.click
          • Chanced Casino
          • Crown Coins Casino
          • FreeSpin Casino
          • LoneStar
          • McLuck
          • Mega Bonanza Casino
          • PlayFame
          • Pulsz
          • Stake.us
      • US Casinos
        • Back
        • US Casinos
        • US Online Casinos
        • US Online Casino Bonuses
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • bet365 Casino Promo Code
          • BetRivers Casino Promo
          • Borgata Casino Bonus Code
          • Caesars Casino Bonus Code
          • DraftKings Casino Promo
          • Fanatics Casino Promo
          • FanDuel Casino Promo Code
          • Golden Nugget Casino Promo
          • Hard Rock Bet Casino Promo
          • Hollywood Casino Promo Code
      • Canada Casinos
        • Back
        • Canada Casinos
        • Canada Online Casinos
        • Provinces
          • Back
          • Provinces
          • Alberta Online Casino
          • BC Online Casino
          • Ontario Online Casinos
        • Casino Promos
          • Back
          • Casino Promos
          • BC.GAME Bonus Code
          • Cloudbet Promo Code
          • RainBet Promo Code
          • Roobet Promo Code
          • Shuffle Promo Code
          • Thrill Promo Code
    • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Markets
      • Prediction Market Apps
      • Prediction Market Promos
      • Kalshi Promo Code
      • Kalshi Referral Code
      • Polymarket Promo Code
      • Polymarket Referral Code
      • DraftKings Predictions Promo Code
      • Novig Promo Code
      • ProphetX Promo Code
      • Underdog Promo Code
      • Betr Promo Code
      • OG Promo Code
      • Fanatics Markets Promo Code
      • Plus500 Promo Code
      • Gemini Predictions Promo Code
    • NFL Week 3
      NFL Week 3
      • NFL Odds
      • NFL Picks
      • Falcons-Packers Picks
      • Survivor Picks
      • Week 3 Odds
      • NFL Prediction Markets
      • NFL Betting Sites
    Covers Account
    Log in Create account
    Join free Log in
    All Forums | Systems & Strategies

    The V system/Can usakangy or someone help?

    1234 Next Last»
    matt4000
    rabiddog
    KMang
    usakangy
    MontanaMax
    Participants:
    Search model icon
    Views: 4231
    Posts: 96
    1234 Next Last»
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:26 PM ET #1

    The V System: Explaination (I got this down the block)
    Some time in the early 1800’s there were a group of men sitting around a table flipping coins for pay they have earned from there jobs. The game was simple, place a bet against another man at the table and pick; heads or tails. After losing week after week one of the men came up with an idea he believed was a way to take all the money at that game. It was not cheating, it was not stealing, but it was a pattern in the way he bet. This man did some math and realized by picking the same outcome time after time and simply doubling your bet per loss, eventually you would hit a winner and regain all losses and profit your original bet amount. Now with a solid run of luck this man profited substantially at the next game and boasted about his ingenious way of betting. The next week his friends caught on, it was a constant rollercoaster of profits and losses until one of the men lost 11 consecutive coin flips and ended up walking out empty pocketed and broken spirited.

    The next week the men set “betting limits” to eliminate this system of betting they eventually named the Martingale. Since that day over 200 years ago gamblers have lived and died on the Martingale betting system. The idea of hitting one of multiple bets to profit makes it seem like profits are a sure thing. However, like I have learned and almost every other person who has danced with the martingale system you can lose everything you came in with and more quicker then you can say the word martingale.
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    The V System: Explaination (I got this down the block)
    Some time in the early 1800’s there were a group of men sitting around a table flipping coins for pay they have earned from there jobs. The game was simple, place a bet against another man at the table and pick; heads or tails. After losing week after week one of the men came up with an idea he believed was a way to take all the money at that game. It was not cheating, it was not stealing, but it was a pattern in the way he bet. This man did some math and realized by picking the same outcome time after time and simply doubling your bet per loss, eventually you would hit a winner and regain all losses and profit your original bet amount. Now with a solid run of luck this man profited substantially at the next game and boasted about his ingenious way of betting. The next week his friends caught on, it was a constant rollercoaster of profits and losses until one of the men lost 11 consecutive coin flips and ended up walking out empty pocketed and broken spirited.

    The next week the men set “betting limits” to eliminate this system of betting they eventually named the Martingale. Since that day over 200 years ago gamblers have lived and died on the Martingale betting system. The idea of hitting one of multiple bets to profit makes it seem like profits are a sure thing. However, like I have learned and almost every other person who has danced with the martingale system you can lose everything you came in with and more quicker then you can say the word martingale.
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:26 PM ET #2

    It was the NBA season of 2005 in January that many fool proof betting systems began to appear all over the internet. I know anyone reading this has seen the “Win 97% of your bets!” or the “Never pay your book again!” advertisements that line the sports gambling portals inside and out. Now, just starting out handicapping I asked myself well, why people pay people for 60% when they can have 97%. I realized very soon that the answer was because in one way or another all these system handicappers use the martingale system in order to hit this high percentage. In reality, these handicappers are hitting no more then any regular gambler out there, but because they consider losing 4 straight games and then hitting the 5th game for 6x your first bet a 1-0 record. All these records they boast are highly inflated and highly unrealistic for the bankrolls many bettors have.
    After realizing it was all a marketing approach I was still intrigued by this martingale betting system. I knew that I would never buy or play a system where I would have to wait multiple days and risk large amounts of their bankroll to win a small reward. There had to be a way to use this age old system to my advantage I just had to find it.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    It was the NBA season of 2005 in January that many fool proof betting systems began to appear all over the internet. I know anyone reading this has seen the “Win 97% of your bets!” or the “Never pay your book again!” advertisements that line the sports gambling portals inside and out. Now, just starting out handicapping I asked myself well, why people pay people for 60% when they can have 97%. I realized very soon that the answer was because in one way or another all these system handicappers use the martingale system in order to hit this high percentage. In reality, these handicappers are hitting no more then any regular gambler out there, but because they consider losing 4 straight games and then hitting the 5th game for 6x your first bet a 1-0 record. All these records they boast are highly inflated and highly unrealistic for the bankrolls many bettors have.
    After realizing it was all a marketing approach I was still intrigued by this martingale betting system. I knew that I would never buy or play a system where I would have to wait multiple days and risk large amounts of their bankroll to win a small reward. There had to be a way to use this age old system to my advantage I just had to find it.

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:27 PM ET #3

    I continued betting my games daily at Bodog until making the move over to 5dimes, a fairly new but highly recommended sportsbook. This new sportsbook offered me an opportunity no book did before. 5 Dimes offered lines on each individual quarter of a basketball game before the game (like every book does now). Why wait 48 minutes to win a wager when you can bet pre game hype and momentum and place a 12 minute wager? I almost started to bet 1st quarters and 3rd quarters at the half exclusively. After a slight dip in performance in the early spring months I came back to the trusty old martingale betting system. I began placing a wager in the first quarter of a game for $50 (A lot of money for a grad school student at the time) if it lost I ended up logging in at halftime and playing the 3rd quarter for $100. I had great success with this method and profited between $300 and $500 a week.
    Before the 2007 season began I started research on systems using line databases and box scores off betting portals on the internet. I eventually had 4 seasons of research done and came up with the original “V” system. It was based on past results of teams and was bet strictly using the 1st quarter 3rd quarter martingale betting system. Now since the juice on quarters is -110 you would be risking 33 dimes per game maximum (10 dime base). So assuming you played 10 of these system plays you would have to have to win 6.7 times of 10 to break even, or in other words your break even percentage with this system was 67% instead of the normal 52%. I considered a system loss when Team A loses in both the 1st and 3rd quarter netting you -33 dimes. A system win was when you win either the 1st or 3rd quarter and profit 10 dimes. If you ended up winning in the 1st quarter, you would not play the 3rd quarter because profit was made. Following this betting strategy and following the system guidelines mentioned above (details which I will not and never will disclose to anyone) the 2005-2006 season showed a record of 88-4 for a win percentage of 95% and a net profit of 740 dimes (10 dime base). Now, I know this record is inflated. I will advertise both records. The actual system record is 88-13.2 (4 losses x 3.3 juice) with a winning percentage of 69% (86% win subtract the 67% break even percentage = 19% + 50% percentage = 69% actual win percentage.)

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    I continued betting my games daily at Bodog until making the move over to 5dimes, a fairly new but highly recommended sportsbook. This new sportsbook offered me an opportunity no book did before. 5 Dimes offered lines on each individual quarter of a basketball game before the game (like every book does now). Why wait 48 minutes to win a wager when you can bet pre game hype and momentum and place a 12 minute wager? I almost started to bet 1st quarters and 3rd quarters at the half exclusively. After a slight dip in performance in the early spring months I came back to the trusty old martingale betting system. I began placing a wager in the first quarter of a game for $50 (A lot of money for a grad school student at the time) if it lost I ended up logging in at halftime and playing the 3rd quarter for $100. I had great success with this method and profited between $300 and $500 a week.
    Before the 2007 season began I started research on systems using line databases and box scores off betting portals on the internet. I eventually had 4 seasons of research done and came up with the original “V” system. It was based on past results of teams and was bet strictly using the 1st quarter 3rd quarter martingale betting system. Now since the juice on quarters is -110 you would be risking 33 dimes per game maximum (10 dime base). So assuming you played 10 of these system plays you would have to have to win 6.7 times of 10 to break even, or in other words your break even percentage with this system was 67% instead of the normal 52%. I considered a system loss when Team A loses in both the 1st and 3rd quarter netting you -33 dimes. A system win was when you win either the 1st or 3rd quarter and profit 10 dimes. If you ended up winning in the 1st quarter, you would not play the 3rd quarter because profit was made. Following this betting strategy and following the system guidelines mentioned above (details which I will not and never will disclose to anyone) the 2005-2006 season showed a record of 88-4 for a win percentage of 95% and a net profit of 740 dimes (10 dime base). Now, I know this record is inflated. I will advertise both records. The actual system record is 88-13.2 (4 losses x 3.3 juice) with a winning percentage of 69% (86% win subtract the 67% break even percentage = 19% + 50% percentage = 69% actual win percentage.)

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:28 PM ET #4

    After doing research on season after season the results were the same, winning season after winning season, winning streak after streak! This system was unstoppable. There were some setbacks, up until the 2008-2009 seasons the only book this was playable at was 5dimes. Now The Greek has become available. All books offer the 1st quarter and 3rd quarter lines before the game but the key is the 3rd quarter lines at halftime. It is the only way the system will work. This system requires some dedication. I will know the day before if there will be a play or not so I will give plenty heads up. In order to bet this you have to be able to put that bet in at halftime which is roughly a 15-20 minute window. Other then that this system speaks for itself, with the slight tweaks I have added plays are slightly reduced but past records have improved. All of this will be explained in the paragraphs to come.

    Why Does It Work?


    I have heard this time after time, well why does this system work Eddie? How can you say its going to do well this season, its just a system who can predict what will happen? The answer is always the same. I can not guarantee results; no can anyone else in this business. If you are in this to find a “guaranteed” winner, your in the wrong place, there is no such thing, but you have to realize that people know more then others and some have more knowledge and a better understanding of betting on sports. It’s these people who can give you advice on how to get an edge on the books.

    • The edge with this system is it is ALWAYS, and I mean always betting on the elite teams in the NBA. It’s just the way the criteria works, for some reason the only teams that fit into plays seem to be the Lakers, Celtics, Cavaliers, Mavericks and Spurs of the league. You will always have your money on quality players on quality teams.

    • Quarter lines are not set by lines makers. Quarter lines are simply ¼ of the line set by the lines makers. There is no research put into these lines so you can always predict what they are and with research you can get an edge more often then not on these lines. If a team is favored by 8 points in the game, 9 out of 10 times the line in the 1st quarter is going to be -2. You’re getting an elite team with its top players to win by a basket in the first 12 minutes. Seems like an edge to me already.

    • The way I have manipulated the martingale system is quite strict. It allows you to profit twice in one game, period. If you don’t profit there is no doubling up on the next game, nothing, one game, two shots plain and simple.

    • As confident I am in the team winning the 1st quarter, I am ten times as confident that teams will win the third quarter. Usually what happens is when the team loses in the first quarter they lose badly; this poor start is followed by the same performance in the second quarter. Id say nearly 7 of the 10 times the team loses the first quarter, they are losing at the half. This benefits us because you’re getting a better team, at a better price in a must comeback situation.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    After doing research on season after season the results were the same, winning season after winning season, winning streak after streak! This system was unstoppable. There were some setbacks, up until the 2008-2009 seasons the only book this was playable at was 5dimes. Now The Greek has become available. All books offer the 1st quarter and 3rd quarter lines before the game but the key is the 3rd quarter lines at halftime. It is the only way the system will work. This system requires some dedication. I will know the day before if there will be a play or not so I will give plenty heads up. In order to bet this you have to be able to put that bet in at halftime which is roughly a 15-20 minute window. Other then that this system speaks for itself, with the slight tweaks I have added plays are slightly reduced but past records have improved. All of this will be explained in the paragraphs to come.

    Why Does It Work?


    I have heard this time after time, well why does this system work Eddie? How can you say its going to do well this season, its just a system who can predict what will happen? The answer is always the same. I can not guarantee results; no can anyone else in this business. If you are in this to find a “guaranteed” winner, your in the wrong place, there is no such thing, but you have to realize that people know more then others and some have more knowledge and a better understanding of betting on sports. It’s these people who can give you advice on how to get an edge on the books.

    • The edge with this system is it is ALWAYS, and I mean always betting on the elite teams in the NBA. It’s just the way the criteria works, for some reason the only teams that fit into plays seem to be the Lakers, Celtics, Cavaliers, Mavericks and Spurs of the league. You will always have your money on quality players on quality teams.

    • Quarter lines are not set by lines makers. Quarter lines are simply ¼ of the line set by the lines makers. There is no research put into these lines so you can always predict what they are and with research you can get an edge more often then not on these lines. If a team is favored by 8 points in the game, 9 out of 10 times the line in the 1st quarter is going to be -2. You’re getting an elite team with its top players to win by a basket in the first 12 minutes. Seems like an edge to me already.

    • The way I have manipulated the martingale system is quite strict. It allows you to profit twice in one game, period. If you don’t profit there is no doubling up on the next game, nothing, one game, two shots plain and simple.

    • As confident I am in the team winning the 1st quarter, I am ten times as confident that teams will win the third quarter. Usually what happens is when the team loses in the first quarter they lose badly; this poor start is followed by the same performance in the second quarter. Id say nearly 7 of the 10 times the team loses the first quarter, they are losing at the half. This benefits us because you’re getting a better team, at a better price in a must comeback situation.

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:32 PM ET #5

    Past Records

    I have gone back and done records of the system to the 2000-2001 season. I will break these down for you here. Remember, all plays are on a 10 dime base.

    2000-2001 Season
    System Wins
    79
    System Losses
    5
    Total Losses
    16.5
    System Record
    79-5
    System Win %
    0.940476
    Actual Record
    79-16.5
    Actual Win %
    0.657225
    Profit
    625


    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Past Records

    I have gone back and done records of the system to the 2000-2001 season. I will break these down for you here. Remember, all plays are on a 10 dime base.

    2000-2001 Season
    System Wins
    79
    System Losses
    5
    Total Losses
    16.5
    System Record
    79-5
    System Win %
    0.940476
    Actual Record
    79-16.5
    Actual Win %
    0.657225
    Profit
    625


     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:33 PM ET #6

    2001-2002 Season
    System Wins
    81
    System Losses
    3
    Total Losses
    9.9
    System Record
    81-3
    System Win %
    0.964286
    Actual Record
    81-9.9
    Actual Win %
    0.721089
    Profit
    711

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2001-2002 Season
    System Wins
    81
    System Losses
    3
    Total Losses
    9.9
    System Record
    81-3
    System Win %
    0.964286
    Actual Record
    81-9.9
    Actual Win %
    0.721089
    Profit
    711

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:33 PM ET #7

    2002-2003 Season
    System Wins
    91
    System Losses
    6
    Total Losses
    19.8
    System Record
    91-6
    System Win %
    0.938144
    Actual Record
    91-19.8
    Actual Win %
    0.6513
    Profit
    712
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2002-2003 Season
    System Wins
    91
    System Losses
    6
    Total Losses
    19.8
    System Record
    91-6
    System Win %
    0.938144
    Actual Record
    91-19.8
    Actual Win %
    0.6513
    Profit
    712
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:33 PM ET #8

    2003-2004 Season
    System Wins
    69
    System Losses
    2
    Total Losses
    6.6
    System Record
    69-2
    System Win %
    0.971831
    Actual Record
    69-6.6
    Actual Win %
    0.742698
    Profit
    624
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2003-2004 Season
    System Wins
    69
    System Losses
    2
    Total Losses
    6.6
    System Record
    69-2
    System Win %
    0.971831
    Actual Record
    69-6.6
    Actual Win %
    0.742698
    Profit
    624
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:33 PM ET #9

    2004-2005 Season
    System Wins
    107
    System Losses
    8
    Total Losses
    26.4
    System Record
    107-8
    System Win %
    0.930435
    Actual Record
    107-26.4
    Actual Win %
    0.632099
    Profit
    806
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2004-2005 Season
    System Wins
    107
    System Losses
    8
    Total Losses
    26.4
    System Record
    107-8
    System Win %
    0.930435
    Actual Record
    107-26.4
    Actual Win %
    0.632099
    Profit
    806
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:34 PM ET #10

    2005-2006 Season
    System Wins
    88
    System Losses
    4
    Total Losses
    13.2
    System Record
    88-4
    System Win %
    0.956522
    Actual Record
    88-13.2
    Actual Win %
    0.699565
    Profit
    748

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2005-2006 Season
    System Wins
    88
    System Losses
    4
    Total Losses
    13.2
    System Record
    88-4
    System Win %
    0.956522
    Actual Record
    88-13.2
    Actual Win %
    0.699565
    Profit
    748

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:34 PM ET #11

    2006-2007 Season
    System Wins
    77
    System Losses
    9
    Total Losses
    29.7
    System Record
    77-9
    System Win %
    0.895349
    Actual Record
    77-29.7
    Actual Win %
    0.551649
    Profit
    473
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2006-2007 Season
    System Wins
    77
    System Losses
    9
    Total Losses
    29.7
    System Record
    77-9
    System Win %
    0.895349
    Actual Record
    77-29.7
    Actual Win %
    0.551649
    Profit
    473
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:34 PM ET #12

    2007-2008 Season
    System Wins
    111
    System Losses
    8
    Total Losses
    26.4
    System Record
    111-8
    System Win %
    0.932773
    Actual Record
    111-26.4
    Actual Win %
    0.63786
    Profit
    846
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2007-2008 Season
    System Wins
    111
    System Losses
    8
    Total Losses
    26.4
    System Record
    111-8
    System Win %
    0.932773
    Actual Record
    111-26.4
    Actual Win %
    0.63786
    Profit
    846
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:34 PM ET #13

    2008-2009 Season
    System Wins
    115
    System Losses
    10
    Total Losses
    33
    System Record
    115-10
    System Win %
    0.92
    Actual Record
    115-33
    Actual Win %
    0.607027
    Profit
    82
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    2008-2009 Season
    System Wins
    115
    System Losses
    10
    Total Losses
    33
    System Record
    115-10
    System Win %
    0.92
    Actual Record
    115-33
    Actual Win %
    0.607027
    Profit
    82
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 12:42 PM ET #14

    ***I am in know way trying to steal this guys system. I am looking for some help from you guys to try to figure out what teams qualify for a play?

    The guy down the road can take full credit for this system. I am not here to take any credit, I could care a less about about that.

    I am just looking for a way to make some extra cash. Can anyone help?

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    ***I am in know way trying to steal this guys system. I am looking for some help from you guys to try to figure out what teams qualify for a play?

    The guy down the road can take full credit for this system. I am not here to take any credit, I could care a less about about that.

    I am just looking for a way to make some extra cash. Can anyone help?

     
    rabiddog
    rabiddog
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Apr, 2006
    Posts: 21
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 1:19 PM ET #15

    It probally has something tied in with powerrankings... The best 5 vs the worst 5..
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    It probally has something tied in with powerrankings... The best 5 vs the worst 5..
     
    KMang
    KMang
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 141
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 1:34 PM ET #16

    I am all ears on this....  The system seems solid.  If I can't figure it out, I would be happy to just tail it. 

    Is there any way to get the plays?  Then, once you have the plays, you can try to figure out what criteria is being used to create them. 

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    I am all ears on this....  The system seems solid.  If I can't figure it out, I would be happy to just tail it. 

    Is there any way to get the plays?  Then, once you have the plays, you can try to figure out what criteria is being used to create them. 

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 2:29 PM ET #17

    Yep, the guy who came up with this system has said this so far.

    Wednesday October 28th:

    Play On: Cleveland Cavs -X in the 1st and if necessary 3rd Quarter . Cleveland 1st Quarter was a play yesterday which lost, therefore I logged into 5dimes at Halftime and doubled the wager on the Cavs in the 3rd Quarter, -4. It won easily and I made profit on the game. Since profit was made on the game, the game is considered a system win.
     
    Then he said:
    Id like to keep everything a secret as to how I go about picking the games. I put alot of work into this and I would like to take the credit for the winners.

     

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Yep, the guy who came up with this system has said this so far.

    Wednesday October 28th:

    Play On: Cleveland Cavs -X in the 1st and if necessary 3rd Quarter . Cleveland 1st Quarter was a play yesterday which lost, therefore I logged into 5dimes at Halftime and doubled the wager on the Cavs in the 3rd Quarter, -4. It won easily and I made profit on the game. Since profit was made on the game, the game is considered a system win.
     
    Then he said:
    Id like to keep everything a secret as to how I go about picking the games. I put alot of work into this and I would like to take the credit for the winners.

     

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 2:31 PM ET #18

    Friday Oct. 30th

    He says Play On: Orlando Magic -3 1st Quarter TO WIN: 10 DIMES ($100)

    The way I understand the system is... if it loses. Double up on the 3rd quarter play.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Friday Oct. 30th

    He says Play On: Orlando Magic -3 1st Quarter TO WIN: 10 DIMES ($100)

    The way I understand the system is... if it loses. Double up on the 3rd quarter play.

     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 2:36 PM ET #19

     

    KMang,

    By the way, I work out of town so I can't track all the plays. If you want to know where I got it from just invite me as a friend and I will PM the info to you.

    If you or someone else would post the plays that would be great!

    We can track it for a while and if it is a bust, then we can drop it!

     

     

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

     

    KMang,

    By the way, I work out of town so I can't track all the plays. If you want to know where I got it from just invite me as a friend and I will PM the info to you.

    If you or someone else would post the plays that would be great!

    We can track it for a while and if it is a bust, then we can drop it!

     

     

     
    KMang
    KMang
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Oct, 2008
    Posts: 141
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 2:49 PM ET #20

    Matt,

    I am happy to try to track this thing.  I think the hard part is being in front of a computer to make those 3rd Quarter plays.  But I am going to give it a spin tonight on Orlando anyways....  The guy who developed this thing clearly wants to go "tout" or something....thats the only reason to not want to share the criteria.  No problem, as long as we are all making money, its all good. 

    GL with this...

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Matt,

    I am happy to try to track this thing.  I think the hard part is being in front of a computer to make those 3rd Quarter plays.  But I am going to give it a spin tonight on Orlando anyways....  The guy who developed this thing clearly wants to go "tout" or something....thats the only reason to not want to share the criteria.  No problem, as long as we are all making money, its all good. 

    GL with this...

     
    usakangy
    usakangy
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2006
    Posts: 2894
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 5:06 PM ET #21

    Sounds like something I got involved in a long time back.  What I noticed was that even though 1st quarter lines were small (usually 2 or less), the favorite always seemed to be the home team.  I also noticed, that often times these home teams came out flat in the 1st and failed to cover the -2.  Therefore, Cleveland yesterday, Orlando tonight, I have a hunch he is playing road teams here.  Also, noting that both Cleveland and Orlando happen to be favorites, made me think about this for a few.

    It almost looks like the man is taking road favorites.  A home dog tends to come out flat at times, don't ask me why.  I have always thought road favorites had a better chance of covering than home favorites.  But as you said, if a road favorite does not win the 1st, they usually, get blown out in the 2nd, which sets up rather nicely, a comeback in the 3rd. 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Sounds like something I got involved in a long time back.  What I noticed was that even though 1st quarter lines were small (usually 2 or less), the favorite always seemed to be the home team.  I also noticed, that often times these home teams came out flat in the 1st and failed to cover the -2.  Therefore, Cleveland yesterday, Orlando tonight, I have a hunch he is playing road teams here.  Also, noting that both Cleveland and Orlando happen to be favorites, made me think about this for a few.

    It almost looks like the man is taking road favorites.  A home dog tends to come out flat at times, don't ask me why.  I have always thought road favorites had a better chance of covering than home favorites.  But as you said, if a road favorite does not win the 1st, they usually, get blown out in the 2nd, which sets up rather nicely, a comeback in the 3rd. 
     
    usakangy
    usakangy
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Jul, 2006
    Posts: 2894
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 5:11 PM ET #22

    Matt, just sent you a friend request.... 
    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    Matt, just sent you a friend request.... 
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 8:45 PM ET #23

    Well, Orlando just covered.

    Do u think we are to chase the 3rd quarter if the 1st quarter is a push?

    usakangy...I accepted you and will send you the info.

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Well, Orlando just covered.

    Do u think we are to chase the 3rd quarter if the 1st quarter is a push?

    usakangy...I accepted you and will send you the info.

     
    MontanaMax
    MontanaMax
    Prospect
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Nov, 2008
    Posts: 473
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 10:19 PM ET #24

    .............
    Good work Matt you cheap Penquin fan
    You've better been a fan when they sucked ass some 5-10 years before they got this core group
    Just poking fun - no harm
    After all you got the cup and my Fly guys look mediocre again

    Your nobleness is appreciated
    I give you props
    They don't teach that in school

    He deserves it with what your doing
    Posting plays but hush hushing about how you got them is lame
    Then don't post the plays jackass down the block
    The only people we should worry about is Vegas catching wind and adjusting the lines because of a very successful system
    That's all
    Otherwise as long as we all are having fun taking the book's money its all good not matter who came up with the system or who's tracking it or posting the plays
    We're all on the same team
    Maybe not the same side but on the same page to say the least

    Your on the right track man - keep it up with this  




    usakangy
    You know what I think I've seen something like this too before only if I'm correct it was a 1st half and 2nd half chase
    I could be wrong but oh well





    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User
    .............
    Good work Matt you cheap Penquin fan
    You've better been a fan when they sucked ass some 5-10 years before they got this core group
    Just poking fun - no harm
    After all you got the cup and my Fly guys look mediocre again

    Your nobleness is appreciated
    I give you props
    They don't teach that in school

    He deserves it with what your doing
    Posting plays but hush hushing about how you got them is lame
    Then don't post the plays jackass down the block
    The only people we should worry about is Vegas catching wind and adjusting the lines because of a very successful system
    That's all
    Otherwise as long as we all are having fun taking the book's money its all good not matter who came up with the system or who's tracking it or posting the plays
    We're all on the same team
    Maybe not the same side but on the same page to say the least

    Your on the right track man - keep it up with this  




    usakangy
    You know what I think I've seen something like this too before only if I'm correct it was a 1st half and 2nd half chase
    I could be wrong but oh well





     
     
    matt4000
    matt4000
    Veteran
    Participation Meter
    Joined: Aug, 2007
    Posts: 1101
    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #25

    Montana Max,

    I actually have lived in Pittsburgh my whole life. Became a Pens fan in 1990 when I was 13, but LOL to what your last post said.

    Also, I have been paying attention to what you and some of the others post in this section at Covers, I just don't post that much.

    I am interested in maybe swaping some ideas and/or sytems that I may have with you. I will send you a friend request.

     

    Reply
    Quote Post
    0
    Report User

    Montana Max,

    I actually have lived in Pittsburgh my whole life. Became a Pens fan in 1990 when I was 13, but LOL to what your last post said.

    Also, I have been paying attention to what you and some of the others post in this section at Covers, I just don't post that much.

    I am interested in maybe swaping some ideas and/or sytems that I may have with you. I will send you a friend request.

     

    All Forums | Systems & Strategies
    1234 Next Last»

    Hot Forums IconHot Forum Topics

    • 🤢🥴💩_ Fubah's risky baseball bets _🥶😲🥵 449,503 Covers arrow
    • Giants vs Rams MNF in-game live 2,488 Covers arrow
    • Serious Streak Survivor Strategies 1,918,168 Covers arrow
    • Monday 09/21/2026 460 Covers arrow
    • ***Macwesties * Mon. Sept. 21, 2026 * Birthday * NFL * MNF * Football Play*** 4,171 Covers arrow
    • NFL LOCKED IN! 99,549 Covers arrow
    • New York Giants @ Los Angeles Rams 5,091 Covers arrow
    • Where are they getting enough explosive offense to separate from New York by more than a touchdown 2,585 Covers arrow
    • ?? KBO Plays 🥎 14,818 Covers arrow
    • Monday Night 4,440 Covers arrow

    Warning - External Link

    Report User

    Thank you for reporting
    This content is abusive or harmful
    This post is spam
    An error has occurred
    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

    Delete Post

    Are you sure you would like to remove this post?

    Remove Thread

    Are you sure you would like to remove this thread?

    Scan Results

    Login/Register

    Happy to have you join the conversation. To do so, please login or create an account.
    Accounts are free and easy to create.

    Search


    Loading…

    Loading…

    About Us
    Contact Us
    Careers
    Our Team
    Brand
    Testimonials
    Betting Guides
    Sportsbook Reviews
    Betting News
    Podcasts
    Responsible Gambling
    Betting Sites
    US Betting Sites
    Canada Betting Sites
    Canada Casinos
    Best Betting Apps
    Contests
    Streak Survivor
    King of Covers
    Ultimate Race
    Office Pools
    The Covers community has
    810,221
    lifetime members worldwide
    Join our community today
    Covers 30 Years Logo Established in 1995,
    Covers is the world
    leader in sports
    betting information.
    21+
    Gambling problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER
    Help Privacy Terms of Service Cookies Sitemap Forum
    YouTube logo
    Facebook logo
    Twitter logo
    Instagram logo
    LinkedIn logo
    Google News logo
    Covers is verified safe by:
    Evalon Logo Logo GPWA Logo GDPR logo Logo GeoTrust logo Logo PCI DSS logo Logo
    Copyright © 1995 - 2026 CS Media Ltd. All Rights Reserved.
    If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.