I'm trying to share a printer with another computer that is connected through a 2WIRE modem/router. My computer has Window Vista and the other one has XP. For some reason, my computer cannot detect the network that the other computer is on even though I've set the other computer to printer sharing already.
I'm not a computer whiz so please help...
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Gentlemen,
I'm trying to share a printer with another computer that is connected through a 2WIRE modem/router. My computer has Window Vista and the other one has XP. For some reason, my computer cannot detect the network that the other computer is on even though I've set the other computer to printer sharing already.
Oh for the love of Microsoft.....Vista can burn in hell. Although it's been great for business. I'm on the road now, but I will write something up when I get back in.
First of all, which computer is your printer on?
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Oh for the love of Microsoft.....Vista can burn in hell. Although it's been great for business. I'm on the road now, but I will write something up when I get back in.
1. Are both computers in the same subnet/getting an IP address? (Vista hold down the shift key and right click on any folder and you will see open command prompt window here, click it to open a window. Type IPconfig. Remember the ip address. On XP, go to start run, type cmd, ipconfig. Remember the ip address. Verify they are both have the same numbers in the first 3 octects. Ex 192.168.1.x X can be any number from 1-254, so Vista could be 192.168.1.100 and XP could be 192.168.1.101. As long as those first 3 numbers are the same, you are good here). Also at a cmd prompt trying ping the other PC. From either PC from a command prompt type ping (IP address of the other pc) Ex ping 192.168.1.101 (This ex being from xp pc (192.168.1.100). If you get 4 replies with the ip with ms, you are good to go so far)
2. Are both computers in the same workgroup? (Vista you can check by going to the Control Panel, System, Advanced System Options. Click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. In XP, go to start, right click on my computer, go to properties, click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. Make sure they are the same. If not make the change to match. Reboot whatever PC you change).
3. Do you have network discovery enabled on your Vista PC? (You can verify this by going to Start, right click Network, Go to properties, and make sure network discovery is enabled).
4. If I am reading right, your printer is on the XP PC. Even with file and print sharing enabled, you need to make sure the printer is shared. You can do this by right clicking the printer, go to sharing, click on shared name, give it a name. Click OK.
These are just a few things to try. Let me know how it works out and if you are still stuck at a stand still.
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1. Are both computers in the same subnet/getting an IP address? (Vista hold down the shift key and right click on any folder and you will see open command prompt window here, click it to open a window. Type IPconfig. Remember the ip address. On XP, go to start run, type cmd, ipconfig. Remember the ip address. Verify they are both have the same numbers in the first 3 octects. Ex 192.168.1.x X can be any number from 1-254, so Vista could be 192.168.1.100 and XP could be 192.168.1.101. As long as those first 3 numbers are the same, you are good here). Also at a cmd prompt trying ping the other PC. From either PC from a command prompt type ping (IP address of the other pc) Ex ping 192.168.1.101 (This ex being from xp pc (192.168.1.100). If you get 4 replies with the ip with ms, you are good to go so far)
2. Are both computers in the same workgroup? (Vista you can check by going to the Control Panel, System, Advanced System Options. Click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. In XP, go to start, right click on my computer, go to properties, click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. Make sure they are the same. If not make the change to match. Reboot whatever PC you change).
3. Do you have network discovery enabled on your Vista PC? (You can verify this by going to Start, right click Network, Go to properties, and make sure network discovery is enabled).
4. If I am reading right, your printer is on the XP PC. Even with file and print sharing enabled, you need to make sure the printer is shared. You can do this by right clicking the printer, go to sharing, click on shared name, give it a name. Click OK.
These are just a few things to try. Let me know how it works out and if you are still stuck at a stand still.
Should of noted if you can get out to the internet on both PCs, forget about step 1. If you can and they are on the same router, you should be able to ping each other and be on the same subnet.
Sorry, it is just sometimes I get to in depth. I have been doing this too damn long.
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Should of noted if you can get out to the internet on both PCs, forget about step 1. If you can and they are on the same router, you should be able to ping each other and be on the same subnet.
Sorry, it is just sometimes I get to in depth. I have been doing this too damn long.
I've double checked everything...I created a new network on my XP. I've turned on the printer sharing feature.
The Vista still cannot detect the XP even though I've name the network on the Vista to be the same as the XP. I tried to view all the computers on the network and nothing else appears, only the Vista.
What am I doing wrong or did I miss any step? It was much more easier when I configured the printer to share when all my computers were using XP.
Thanks for all your help!!!
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MB,
I've double checked everything...I created a new network on my XP. I've turned on the printer sharing feature.
The Vista still cannot detect the XP even though I've name the network on the Vista to be the same as the XP. I tried to view all the computers on the network and nothing else appears, only the Vista.
What am I doing wrong or did I miss any step? It was much more easier when I configured the printer to share when all my computers were using XP.
Also check your security settings on the Vista machine. These OS's do not play well at all. Sometimes you have to manually add the printer instead of searching on the network.
Also check your security settings on the Vista machine. These OS's do not play well at all. Sometimes you have to manually add the printer instead of searching on the network.
Can you ping the Vista PC from the XP pc and vice versa. Need to make sure they can communicate with one another. If you can, do you have any firewall/security software installed on either PC? Like Lippsman said Vista can be a bitch. Especially when it comes to security, device drivers, and application installs .Microsoft has become to involved in security rather than making it easier for the user. Which in turn can be a plus or negative, depending on your knowledge of computers.
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Can you ping the Vista PC from the XP pc and vice versa. Need to make sure they can communicate with one another. If you can, do you have any firewall/security software installed on either PC? Like Lippsman said Vista can be a bitch. Especially when it comes to security, device drivers, and application installs .Microsoft has become to involved in security rather than making it easier for the user. Which in turn can be a plus or negative, depending on your knowledge of computers.
I just checked the IP config again and realized that the Vista is different than that of the XP. How do you fix that anyway? Do I need to contact the AT&T people? Thanks for all your help and patience.
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MB,
I just checked the IP config again and realized that the Vista is different than that of the XP. How do you fix that anyway? Do I need to contact the AT&T people? Thanks for all your help and patience.
I just checked the IP config again and realized that the Vista is different than that of the XP. How do you fix that anyway? Do I need to contact the AT&T people? Thanks for all your help and patience.
They shouldn't have the same IP, but the same IP range.
Depending on your router the IP's should be like this.
192.168.1.xxx
As long as both computers have the first three numbers you are ok. That last one can be between 1-255. Well, really 2-255 because your router should have 192.168.1.1 as it's IP address.
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Quote Originally Posted by richardtonsj:
MB,
I just checked the IP config again and realized that the Vista is different than that of the XP. How do you fix that anyway? Do I need to contact the AT&T people? Thanks for all your help and patience.
They shouldn't have the same IP, but the same IP range.
Depending on your router the IP's should be like this.
192.168.1.xxx
As long as both computers have the first three numbers you are ok. That last one can be between 1-255. Well, really 2-255 because your router should have 192.168.1.1 as it's IP address.
Wow that is a public/routable IP address (69.107.52.113). How does your Vista connect to your home network? What type of router do you have? Also what type of cable/dsl modem do you have? Can both Vista and XP get out to the internet? Sorry for all the questions, but it's alot harder to figure out without physical seeing the setup. May take longer then a housecall, but we will do what we can to get you situated.
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Wow that is a public/routable IP address (69.107.52.113). How does your Vista connect to your home network? What type of router do you have? Also what type of cable/dsl modem do you have? Can both Vista and XP get out to the internet? Sorry for all the questions, but it's alot harder to figure out without physical seeing the setup. May take longer then a housecall, but we will do what we can to get you situated.
Both PCs are connected to a DSL modem/router (2WIRE) via ethernet cable. Both computer can get on the internet.
Using the Vista PC to access the network router through 192.168.1.254 (the gateway of the modem), I notice both computers on listed but have different IP address.
May be because when I installed the Vista to the router, I did not install the router installation disk. I'm just guessing but it works fine when I plugged the ethernet cable in though.
Really appreciate all you guys help here!
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Thanks for the reply MB!
Both PCs are connected to a DSL modem/router (2WIRE) via ethernet cable. Both computer can get on the internet.
Using the Vista PC to access the network router through 192.168.1.254 (the gateway of the modem), I notice both computers on listed but have different IP address.
May be because when I installed the Vista to the router, I did not install the router installation disk. I'm just guessing but it works fine when I plugged the ethernet cable in though.
Try this on the Vista PC. From a command Prompt type ipconfig /release
If should come back with 0.0.0.0s and a command prompt. type ipconfig /renew to see if it picks up an IP address from DHCP from the router (IP subnet of the XP PC). Usually I only see this happen when a router is in bridge mode and passes the IP to the pc or another device (firewall).
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Try this on the Vista PC. From a command Prompt type ipconfig /release
If should come back with 0.0.0.0s and a command prompt. type ipconfig /renew to see if it picks up an IP address from DHCP from the router (IP subnet of the XP PC). Usually I only see this happen when a router is in bridge mode and passes the IP to the pc or another device (firewall).
Rights issue. Disable User Account Control. Open the Control Panel....User Accounts then click Turn User Account Control on or off. Uncheck the box. Click OK. That User Account Control is a pain in the ass.
I agree with Lippsman....I never use those disks either. Pain in the ass with all the software it installs.
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Rights issue. Disable User Account Control. Open the Control Panel....User Accounts then click Turn User Account Control on or off. Uncheck the box. Click OK. That User Account Control is a pain in the ass.
I agree with Lippsman....I never use those disks either. Pain in the ass with all the software it installs.
If this works its only a band-aid. I am still curious how your Vista PC is picking up a routable IP and your XP is not and it is still able to get out to the internet.
First get the settings you will need. You can get all the info you need by doing a ipconfig /all from a cmd prompt on the XP PC. The subnet mask, gateway, and DNS will be the same. The Ip address will have to have the same first 3 octects. The 4th number will be unique. You can make sure nothing is using that ip address by pinging it from your XP pc. ping x.x.x.x and if no reply, you can use that IP address for your Vista PC.
Go to Start button, Control Panel, Network and Internet, click Network and Sharing Center, and then click Manage network connections. Right-click Local Area Connection. Click the Networking tab. click Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) Specify IPv4 IP address settings by clicking the radio button use the following IP address and doing the same for DNS, and then, in the IP address, Subnet mask, and Default gateway boxes, type the IP address settings and in the DNS type the DNS.
Once the settings are set. Click ok. You do not need to reboot. Now see if you can get to the internet.
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If this works its only a band-aid. I am still curious how your Vista PC is picking up a routable IP and your XP is not and it is still able to get out to the internet.
First get the settings you will need. You can get all the info you need by doing a ipconfig /all from a cmd prompt on the XP PC. The subnet mask, gateway, and DNS will be the same. The Ip address will have to have the same first 3 octects. The 4th number will be unique. You can make sure nothing is using that ip address by pinging it from your XP pc. ping x.x.x.x and if no reply, you can use that IP address for your Vista PC.
Go to Start button, Control Panel, Network and Internet, click Network and Sharing Center, and then click Manage network connections. Right-click Local Area Connection. Click the Networking tab. click Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) Specify IPv4 IP address settings by clicking the radio button use the following IP address and doing the same for DNS, and then, in the IP address, Subnet mask, and Default gateway boxes, type the IP address settings and in the DNS type the DNS.
Once the settings are set. Click ok. You do not need to reboot. Now see if you can get to the internet.
1. Are both computers in the same subnet/getting an IP address? (Vista hold down the shift key and right click on any folder and you will see open command prompt window here, click it to open a window. Type IPconfig. Remember the ip address. On XP, go to start run, type cmd, ipconfig. Remember the ip address. Verify they are both have the same numbers in the first 3 octects. Ex 192.168.1.x X can be any number from 1-254, so Vista could be 192.168.1.100 and XP could be 192.168.1.101. As long as those first 3 numbers are the same, you are good here). Also at a cmd prompt trying ping the other PC. From either PC from a command prompt type ping (IP address of the other pc) Ex ping 192.168.1.101 (This ex being from xp pc (192.168.1.100). If you get 4 replies with the ip with ms, you are good to go so far)
2. Are both computers in the same workgroup? (Vista you can check by going to the Control Panel, System, Advanced System Options. Click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. In XP, go to start, right click on my computer, go to properties, click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. Make sure they are the same. If not make the change to match. Reboot whatever PC you change).
3. Do you have network discovery enabled on your Vista PC? (You can verify this by going to Start, right click Network, Go to properties, and make sure network discovery is enabled).
4. If I am reading right, your printer is on the XP PC. Even with file and print sharing enabled, you need to make sure the printer is shared. You can do this by right clicking the printer, go to sharing, click on shared name, give it a name. Click OK.
These are just a few things to try. Let me know how it works out and if you are still stuck at a stand still.
Now that you have a static IP address. Did you verify everything I previously posted. Also can you ping Vista from XP and Xp from Vista? Need to make sure they can communicate with one another. Make sure you can a reply from both sides to the other without a request time out.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mutant_Boogers:
1. Are both computers in the same subnet/getting an IP address? (Vista hold down the shift key and right click on any folder and you will see open command prompt window here, click it to open a window. Type IPconfig. Remember the ip address. On XP, go to start run, type cmd, ipconfig. Remember the ip address. Verify they are both have the same numbers in the first 3 octects. Ex 192.168.1.x X can be any number from 1-254, so Vista could be 192.168.1.100 and XP could be 192.168.1.101. As long as those first 3 numbers are the same, you are good here). Also at a cmd prompt trying ping the other PC. From either PC from a command prompt type ping (IP address of the other pc) Ex ping 192.168.1.101 (This ex being from xp pc (192.168.1.100). If you get 4 replies with the ip with ms, you are good to go so far)
2. Are both computers in the same workgroup? (Vista you can check by going to the Control Panel, System, Advanced System Options. Click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. In XP, go to start, right click on my computer, go to properties, click on computer name tab. There you will see the workgroup name. Make sure they are the same. If not make the change to match. Reboot whatever PC you change).
3. Do you have network discovery enabled on your Vista PC? (You can verify this by going to Start, right click Network, Go to properties, and make sure network discovery is enabled).
4. If I am reading right, your printer is on the XP PC. Even with file and print sharing enabled, you need to make sure the printer is shared. You can do this by right clicking the printer, go to sharing, click on shared name, give it a name. Click OK.
These are just a few things to try. Let me know how it works out and if you are still stuck at a stand still.
Now that you have a static IP address. Did you verify everything I previously posted. Also can you ping Vista from XP and Xp from Vista? Need to make sure they can communicate with one another. Make sure you can a reply from both sides to the other without a request time out.
We are getting there slowing but surely. Now from a search box on Vista, Go to Start and there should be a box right above the start box. Take Lippsman post type the pc name of the XP box combined with the shared name you gave the printer. Ex. \\xpcomputername\printersharedname. Again this is a band-aid, but if it works and you keep the entire configuration in your network the same as now. It's ok. If this works you will get a box to install the printer.
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We are getting there slowing but surely. Now from a search box on Vista, Go to Start and there should be a box right above the start box. Take Lippsman post type the pc name of the XP box combined with the shared name you gave the printer. Ex. \\xpcomputername\printersharedname. Again this is a band-aid, but if it works and you keep the entire configuration in your network the same as now. It's ok. If this works you will get a box to install the printer.
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