Why bring up Monfils? Who here was talking about him?
Keep digging
you questioned my assertion that Tomic is a rising up and comer, yet you have Monfils pic in your avatar?
you are either a fan of his game or you think he''s handsome. anyone, i love watching Monfils but he is underachieving with relation to his talent level.
peace.
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Why bring up Monfils? Who here was talking about him?
Keep digging
you questioned my assertion that Tomic is a rising up and comer, yet you have Monfils pic in your avatar?
you are either a fan of his game or you think he''s handsome. anyone, i love watching Monfils but he is underachieving with relation to his talent level.
so, what would your opinion on dominance be if djokovic wins the french this year?
If Djoko wins the French giving him the "career slam" that Fed and Rafa have, it will go a long way in terms of helping my opinion of him as a "next level" type of player.
Right now, he's still a guy who got hot for just over a year and ran everyone off the court EXCEPT at the french.
He still sits with just 5 major wins as opposed Rafa and Fed's double digits.
Note that Djoko already has 4 losses this year.
yea, yea, yea, i know his grandpa died and he had to play on the smurf clay, but 4 losses is 4 losses, and it's only May. last yr he lost 2 matches the whole damn year.
stay tuned, Frenchie is starting in 14 days
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Quote Originally Posted by barney_gumble:
so, what would your opinion on dominance be if djokovic wins the french this year?
If Djoko wins the French giving him the "career slam" that Fed and Rafa have, it will go a long way in terms of helping my opinion of him as a "next level" type of player.
Right now, he's still a guy who got hot for just over a year and ran everyone off the court EXCEPT at the french.
He still sits with just 5 major wins as opposed Rafa and Fed's double digits.
Note that Djoko already has 4 losses this year.
yea, yea, yea, i know his grandpa died and he had to play on the smurf clay, but 4 losses is 4 losses, and it's only May. last yr he lost 2 matches the whole damn year.
Further proof you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to tennis
i've watched and played tennis since before you were born (85 wimbledon when boris becker dominated the field was when i started watching and playing tennis, and went to become a 3 yr varsity player in HS)
so please explain how 5 losses in 4.67 mos as opposed to 4 losses in 12 mos, does not show that a guy who was on a major run has not dropped back to earth.
my UNDER 10.5 slams for Djoko is a brilliant pick
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Further proof you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to tennis
i've watched and played tennis since before you were born (85 wimbledon when boris becker dominated the field was when i started watching and playing tennis, and went to become a 3 yr varsity player in HS)
so please explain how 5 losses in 4.67 mos as opposed to 4 losses in 12 mos, does not show that a guy who was on a major run has not dropped back to earth.
Djokers loss to Murray in dubai,,,Murray played a flawless match and would've beat rafa and fed in straights too that day
Djokers loss to isner,,,Isner caught ligHtning in a bottle in a rare nationally televised abc/espn American even and the crowd was simply electric supporting isner and he played one of his best matches of his career
Djokers loss to rafa in monte Carlo,,,emotional letdown from the loss of his grandfather
Djokers loss today,,,rafa playing out of his mind right now, especially this week, and seems to be going into 2012 French open as a wolverine with rabies.
so basically, every time djoko loses, there is an excuse?
what about when he wins, maybe everything intangible went into his favor as well?
who's the one with tunnel vision now?
you LOVE djoko which is clouding your vision
i don't HATE djoko, i just hate the hype
i am calling it as it is
he is a GREAT GREAT GREAT player
but not the dominant type of next level player that Fed was and Rafa IS
period.
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Djokers loss to Murray in dubai,,,Murray played a flawless match and would've beat rafa and fed in straights too that day
Djokers loss to isner,,,Isner caught ligHtning in a bottle in a rare nationally televised abc/espn American even and the crowd was simply electric supporting isner and he played one of his best matches of his career
Djokers loss to rafa in monte Carlo,,,emotional letdown from the loss of his grandfather
Djokers loss today,,,rafa playing out of his mind right now, especially this week, and seems to be going into 2012 French open as a wolverine with rabies.
so basically, every time djoko loses, there is an excuse?
what about when he wins, maybe everything intangible went into his favor as well?
who's the one with tunnel vision now?
you LOVE djoko which is clouding your vision
i don't HATE djoko, i just hate the hype
i am calling it as it is
he is a GREAT GREAT GREAT player
but not the dominant type of next level player that Fed was and Rafa IS
did you see the Aussie Open final 2012 when Rafa blew chances to take
control of the match in the 5 set epic match? an objective observer
would see that he played just as well, if not slightly better, but djoko
played consistently in the big pts and rafa messed up
i made no excuses, the better player that day won
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did you see the Aussie Open final 2012 when Rafa blew chances to take
control of the match in the 5 set epic match? an objective observer
would see that he played just as well, if not slightly better, but djoko
played consistently in the big pts and rafa messed up
Fed has had several years in the neighborhood of what Djoko did last year. It was not remotely a stand alone year as you prescribe.
what's up ESPLANADE!!!
please be the voice of reason here as you are one of the resident experts.............is djoko a 'next level player' like fed, rafa, pete sampras, rod laver??
i don't think so.
amazing, amazing talent, but when it's all said and done his career will be close to agassi's, mcenroe's, connors...........in the sense that it will be an amazing career for a tennis player, but not at the elite level as the best that ever played the game
top tier: fed, sampras, roy emerson, rod laver, rafa nadal
2nd tier: agassi, mcenroe, connors, lendl, and djokovic
that's mah story and i'm stikkin to it
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Quote Originally Posted by esplanade:
He's telling stories....................
But you are BFF with Carlos Moya
Mr 1100 in the world..............
Fed has had several years in the neighborhood of what Djoko did last year. It was not remotely a stand alone year as you prescribe.
what's up ESPLANADE!!!
please be the voice of reason here as you are one of the resident experts.............is djoko a 'next level player' like fed, rafa, pete sampras, rod laver??
i don't think so.
amazing, amazing talent, but when it's all said and done his career will be close to agassi's, mcenroe's, connors...........in the sense that it will be an amazing career for a tennis player, but not at the elite level as the best that ever played the game
top tier: fed, sampras, roy emerson, rod laver, rafa nadal
2nd tier: agassi, mcenroe, connors, lendl, and djokovic
why are you putting people in classes before their careers are over lol stupid, what if joker wins 9 grand slams over next 3 years, just saying what if you can't put ppl in certain levels before careers are over
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why are you putting people in classes before their careers are over lol stupid, what if joker wins 9 grand slams over next 3 years, just saying what if you can't put ppl in certain levels before careers are over
why are you putting people in classes before their careers are over lol stupid, what if joker wins 9 grand slams over next 3 years, just saying what if you can't put ppl in certain levels before careers are over
you don't get it. he will NOT even break 10 total slams in his career, which even if he finishes with 10 it is a stellar career, but not fed and rafa type stellar.
he is rising at the time that fed has slipped considerably, and rafa had some more injury issues. all credit to nole for his game from jan 2011 through jan 2012. it was an epic run. he won 4 slams bringing his total to 5.
now he must deal with the rising murray, the soon-to-be-back del potro, a hungry and healthy rafa, a rising player in tomic, and who knows who else will step up? maybe soderling will come back strong after the layoff?
too many players who have similar style games to nole will be rising up now, it's too many guys for nole to deal with, he's simply not as dominant as roger was or rafa is, he cannot put up unGodly stretches for multiple years like those guys could
sometimes you can just see things a mile away.
djoko will not drop to earth, he will thump to earth with a major slowdown in slam wins
just watch
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Quote Originally Posted by cowboys173418:
why are you putting people in classes before their careers are over lol stupid, what if joker wins 9 grand slams over next 3 years, just saying what if you can't put ppl in certain levels before careers are over
you don't get it. he will NOT even break 10 total slams in his career, which even if he finishes with 10 it is a stellar career, but not fed and rafa type stellar.
he is rising at the time that fed has slipped considerably, and rafa had some more injury issues. all credit to nole for his game from jan 2011 through jan 2012. it was an epic run. he won 4 slams bringing his total to 5.
now he must deal with the rising murray, the soon-to-be-back del potro, a hungry and healthy rafa, a rising player in tomic, and who knows who else will step up? maybe soderling will come back strong after the layoff?
too many players who have similar style games to nole will be rising up now, it's too many guys for nole to deal with, he's simply not as dominant as roger was or rafa is, he cannot put up unGodly stretches for multiple years like those guys could
sometimes you can just see things a mile away.
djoko will not drop to earth, he will thump to earth with a major slowdown in slam wins
people who cannot understand tennis enough to know that his serve is not big enough and he is not dominant enough an overall player to run the tennis world like fed and rafa have done, and rafa continues to do
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9 grand slams for nole in 3 years
people who cannot understand tennis enough to know that his serve is not big enough and he is not dominant enough an overall player to run the tennis world like fed and rafa have done, and rafa continues to do
you just can't put people in classes before there career is over its just dumb it was a what if, and 10 grand slams is what rafa has so what would be diff if he got them, rafa could only last a cpl of more years with wear he puts on his body, what happens if joker wins all 4 this year like judging someone so young into career is stupid nadal doesnt have a big serve either you dumass
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you just can't put people in classes before there career is over its just dumb it was a what if, and 10 grand slams is what rafa has so what would be diff if he got them, rafa could only last a cpl of more years with wear he puts on his body, what happens if joker wins all 4 this year like judging someone so young into career is stupid nadal doesnt have a big serve either you dumass
in 2011 nole dominated rafa........the clay court season before the french was very impressive for nole...........rafa's broken foot at wimbledon killed him...........all credit to nole for beating him at the us open though........
in the 2012 aussie, rafa got his mental edge back by pushing it 5 sets and playing as well or slightly better than nole overall..........
took it to monte carlo 2012 and whacked nole
took it yesterday and cruised
IT'S ON sistas..........
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in 2011 nole dominated rafa........the clay court season before the french was very impressive for nole...........rafa's broken foot at wimbledon killed him...........all credit to nole for beating him at the us open though........
in the 2012 aussie, rafa got his mental edge back by pushing it 5 sets and playing as well or slightly better than nole overall..........
You really want to be accepted here,,,,trying this hard isn't going to get you there ,,,You need to learn when to let a bad idea for a thread die a quiet covers death
you don't get it do you - take a listen, Packers, i don't give a holy flying fuck about being accepted anywere. all that matters is family, career, friends.
this is all for fun, i just love ruffling the feathers of sports bettors who actually think they're gona win long term at this!!
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
You really want to be accepted here,,,,trying this hard isn't going to get you there ,,,You need to learn when to let a bad idea for a thread die a quiet covers death
you don't get it do you - take a listen, Packers, i don't give a holy flying fuck about being accepted anywere. all that matters is family, career, friends.
this is all for fun, i just love ruffling the feathers of sports bettors who actually think they're gona win long term at this!!
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