You misunderstood my point,,,not surprisingly as you only want to see things your way
It's not the home land advantage that scews the line, it's the masses of betting home country bettors that would cause these lines to favor either player,,,Aussies will drive tomic's line down this week, as would Canadians for milos if this event was played here.
You get it now bruh?
that was a good point. i see what you're saying. i don't think they'll drive it down as much as you say.
i actually give Raonic a lot more credit than you give Tomic. the irony about all of this is that i actually like Raonic's personality and game a lot more than Tomic. Tomic looks mechanical, but it's really the statement he made when he was 16 or 17 about thinking that he'd win all 4 slams for the career slam by the time he was 20 or something stupid like that.
anyhow, i digress. i think the main reason why the odds were so low on Tomic as opposed to Raonic is because Tomic won the APIA in Sydney leading up to the Aussie.............
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
You misunderstood my point,,,not surprisingly as you only want to see things your way
It's not the home land advantage that scews the line, it's the masses of betting home country bettors that would cause these lines to favor either player,,,Aussies will drive tomic's line down this week, as would Canadians for milos if this event was played here.
You get it now bruh?
that was a good point. i see what you're saying. i don't think they'll drive it down as much as you say.
i actually give Raonic a lot more credit than you give Tomic. the irony about all of this is that i actually like Raonic's personality and game a lot more than Tomic. Tomic looks mechanical, but it's really the statement he made when he was 16 or 17 about thinking that he'd win all 4 slams for the career slam by the time he was 20 or something stupid like that.
anyhow, i digress. i think the main reason why the odds were so low on Tomic as opposed to Raonic is because Tomic won the APIA in Sydney leading up to the Aussie.............
I don't get your disdain for joker, I hated him as a kid he was a punk always retiring pulling nonsense, his team was arrogant federer still hates him, but he has been a good winner and a gracious loser recently he has grown on me, Federer is still my favorite but I was rooting for him vs Murray I still don't like Murray even more so after he got his 1st title, French will be very interesting, I know its crazy to say now we will see what happens in the French but I don't think 4 is out of the question for joker this year
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I don't get your disdain for joker, I hated him as a kid he was a punk always retiring pulling nonsense, his team was arrogant federer still hates him, but he has been a good winner and a gracious loser recently he has grown on me, Federer is still my favorite but I was rooting for him vs Murray I still don't like Murray even more so after he got his 1st title, French will be very interesting, I know its crazy to say now we will see what happens in the French but I don't think 4 is out of the question for joker this year
Cowboys, i have been watching Djoko play since 2006, so going on 7 yrs now, he has only recently become gracious in defeat, but i still dont like the tearing off the shirt, the fukking ape-man stares into the crowd after a big pt like he's some kind of bad arse,
i just dont care for his act, never have.
did you see that us open i think it was 2007 when the crowd boo'ed him because he started bitching about how people think he's faking injuries, etc?
trust me i have watched him play in more grand slams and the bigger tourneys on the circuit than most people on this forum and just tennis fans in general, his attitude is very tough to ignore. he was a serious punk from 06 to about 2010, until he realized he had better win something.
cannot compare him to the graciousness of fed and rafa.
i do respect djoko's game but the fukker needs to stop ripping off his shirt after every win that takes more than 4 sets
ROGER: 17 slams
RAFAL: 11 slams
JOKER: 6 slams
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Cowboys, i have been watching Djoko play since 2006, so going on 7 yrs now, he has only recently become gracious in defeat, but i still dont like the tearing off the shirt, the fukking ape-man stares into the crowd after a big pt like he's some kind of bad arse,
i just dont care for his act, never have.
did you see that us open i think it was 2007 when the crowd boo'ed him because he started bitching about how people think he's faking injuries, etc?
trust me i have watched him play in more grand slams and the bigger tourneys on the circuit than most people on this forum and just tennis fans in general, his attitude is very tough to ignore. he was a serious punk from 06 to about 2010, until he realized he had better win something.
cannot compare him to the graciousness of fed and rafa.
i do respect djoko's game but the fukker needs to stop ripping off his shirt after every win that takes more than 4 sets
yes I remember he was pissed because roddick called him out, then he beat roddick and wanted to rub it in, he was immature, he has grown up a lot, I don't mind the ripping the clothes off those were 2 of best matches I have ever seen, the stares are a little annoying though for sure
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yes I remember he was pissed because roddick called him out, then he beat roddick and wanted to rub it in, he was immature, he has grown up a lot, I don't mind the ripping the clothes off those were 2 of best matches I have ever seen, the stares are a little annoying though for sure
Federer was the biggest prick on tour when he had the pony tail,,,,nobody even can come close to how arrogant and cocky he used to be before his dad told him straight up that he was an embarassment to his family and his country,,,that's when he got a haircut and began evolving into the humble, modest, respectful gentleman of the game that he is now,,,with age comes wisdom,,,,djoker has followed the same path,,,,to be the best in a global sport, you need to have that self cockiness and arrogance inside, but with age hopefully one learns to display a more humble exterior for the public. (Probably best example in an individual sport would be Muhammad Ali)
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Federer was the biggest prick on tour when he had the pony tail,,,,nobody even can come close to how arrogant and cocky he used to be before his dad told him straight up that he was an embarassment to his family and his country,,,that's when he got a haircut and began evolving into the humble, modest, respectful gentleman of the game that he is now,,,with age comes wisdom,,,,djoker has followed the same path,,,,to be the best in a global sport, you need to have that self cockiness and arrogance inside, but with age hopefully one learns to display a more humble exterior for the public. (Probably best example in an individual sport would be Muhammad Ali)
Well said Packers except Muhammad Ali is not a good example.
He was a total arrogant classless prick all the way until 1980 when at the age of 38 he got his behind kicked by Larry Holmes.
what Ali did to Joe Frazier in terms of calling him an Uncle Tom in the early and mid-70's is one of the worst things anyone has ever done to a guy in sports. Calling another brother an Uncle Tom is tantamount to calling him a white boy.
Joe Frazier was ANYTHING but a white boy. He was black as hell and proud of it, an inner city Philly fighter.
Ali was a total prick until he was humbled by the beatdown administered to him by the young Holmes in 1980
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Well said Packers except Muhammad Ali is not a good example.
He was a total arrogant classless prick all the way until 1980 when at the age of 38 he got his behind kicked by Larry Holmes.
what Ali did to Joe Frazier in terms of calling him an Uncle Tom in the early and mid-70's is one of the worst things anyone has ever done to a guy in sports. Calling another brother an Uncle Tom is tantamount to calling him a white boy.
Joe Frazier was ANYTHING but a white boy. He was black as hell and proud of it, an inner city Philly fighter.
Ali was a total prick until he was humbled by the beatdown administered to him by the young Holmes in 1980
he has been best player in tennis consistantly for such a long stretch now I don't think it will matter how many slams he wins he is going to be considered one of the best of all time. He has certainly put himself in nadal and federer talk already just by being the best in the game for so long, he will get the slams too
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he has been best player in tennis consistantly for such a long stretch now I don't think it will matter how many slams he wins he is going to be considered one of the best of all time. He has certainly put himself in nadal and federer talk already just by being the best in the game for so long, he will get the slams too
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