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    scorpioTD!
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 8:15 PM ET #276

    from hollywood
    I like the under so when I see this it scares me and I want to see some facts.
     
    Are you kidding me? Hollywood isn't scared of anything!...Werewolves, Goblins, Hollywood Dominatrixes, Single Moms, High Triglycerides...the man is fearless!
     
    Here's the latest update, fellas....still fairly even...be sure to vote!!!
     
    Bears/Under - 4 (DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Colonel Jim)
    Bears/Over - 4 (Buckner, JWishbone, Irisheyes, IronOaks)
    Colts/Under - 6 (stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster)
    Colts/Over - 6 (playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J)
     
    Good luck fellas!
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    from hollywood
    I like the under so when I see this it scares me and I want to see some facts.
     
    Are you kidding me? Hollywood isn't scared of anything!...Werewolves, Goblins, Hollywood Dominatrixes, Single Moms, High Triglycerides...the man is fearless!
     
    Here's the latest update, fellas....still fairly even...be sure to vote!!!
     
    Bears/Under - 4 (DaDonk, hollywood, Tauntstreet, Colonel Jim)
    Bears/Over - 4 (Buckner, JWishbone, Irisheyes, IronOaks)
    Colts/Under - 6 (stoplyin', BreakaBookie, FlyHi, tulanebill, Lucho, spankster)
    Colts/Over - 6 (playmaker, phancard, Hunted466, 3rd&Long, settleup, Dr. J)
     
    Good luck fellas!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 8:19 PM ET #277

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWishbone:

    Houston ,Tennesee,J-ville,....................yeah he's great in warmer weather!!!!
     
    Houston is in a dome and horrible: Peyton and colts scored 24 (that is ok but not great)
    In warm J-Ville: 17 points
    In warm Tennesee: 17 points
     
    Does 17 constitute lots of points?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyWishbone:

    Houston ,Tennesee,J-ville,....................yeah he's great in warmer weather!!!!
     
    Houston is in a dome and horrible: Peyton and colts scored 24 (that is ok but not great)
    In warm J-Ville: 17 points
    In warm Tennesee: 17 points
     
    Does 17 constitute lots of points?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 8:25 PM ET #278

    Scorp,
    I am feeling better about my play when I see  guys named: Stoplyin', FlyHi, tulanebill a lucho and a spankster going against my pick. Then again a man that call himself "DaDonk" is on my side. I feel good having  a colonel on the Bears and Under....just as long as his name is not Sanders!!!!!
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    Scorp,
    I am feeling better about my play when I see  guys named: Stoplyin', FlyHi, tulanebill a lucho and a spankster going against my pick. Then again a man that call himself "DaDonk" is on my side. I feel good having  a colonel on the Bears and Under....just as long as his name is not Sanders!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 8:33 PM ET #279

    hollywood...Reliant Stadium in Houston is not a dome..it is a retractable roof with a grass field..the agricultural experts at nearby Texas A&M worked on having the field be grass and how to keep it fresh and in good shape...only in severe inclement weather do they close it up...FYI!
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    hollywood...Reliant Stadium in Houston is not a dome..it is a retractable roof with a grass field..the agricultural experts at nearby Texas A&M worked on having the field be grass and how to keep it fresh and in good shape...only in severe inclement weather do they close it up...FYI!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 8:35 PM ET #280

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    Actually I am liking the under more and more everyday. I like it more than I like Da Bears. I would not be surprised to see it go down to 47 by gametime. Talking to my people in Vegas it sounds like that is the solid play for the superbowl. Hey Scorp, one of my buddies might go play for an Independent team out in your neck of the woods. He said something about a team in Fort Worth. I told him to look you up when he gets there. I told him that he'd probably find you at the local bar or local high school....
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    Actually I am liking the under more and more everyday. I like it more than I like Da Bears. I would not be surprised to see it go down to 47 by gametime. Talking to my people in Vegas it sounds like that is the solid play for the superbowl. Hey Scorp, one of my buddies might go play for an Independent team out in your neck of the woods. He said something about a team in Fort Worth. I told him to look you up when he gets there. I told him that he'd probably find you at the local bar or local high school....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 8:40 PM ET #281

    Yeah, I know it's retractable. So basically you aren't going to play in bad conditions.....Hey are you sure Lucho is on Indy and the over? i just read one of his posts and I have no idea who he likes. I think he is saying to play Chicago for the first quarter, Indy moneyline second quarter, take Chicago on a second half bet at halftime then to play Indy in a "live wager" bet during the fourth quarter!!!!!
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    Yeah, I know it's retractable. So basically you aren't going to play in bad conditions.....Hey are you sure Lucho is on Indy and the over? i just read one of his posts and I have no idea who he likes. I think he is saying to play Chicago for the first quarter, Indy moneyline second quarter, take Chicago on a second half bet at halftime then to play Indy in a "live wager" bet during the fourth quarter!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 9:20 PM ET #282

    Never at the high school, hollywood...but maybe at the Jiggly Room...I think Ft. Worth has a semi-pro team over there...I live about 45 miles away from "Cowtown"...
     
    The way I read Lucho's post is he liked the Colts/Under...but the post is somewhat ambiguous...I will leave it there until (or if) he clarifies it...
     
    Looks like you got yourself a 5-Star play wiith the Under...let's see if the number drops!
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    Never at the high school, hollywood...but maybe at the Jiggly Room...I think Ft. Worth has a semi-pro team over there...I live about 45 miles away from "Cowtown"...
     
    The way I read Lucho's post is he liked the Colts/Under...but the post is somewhat ambiguous...I will leave it there until (or if) he clarifies it...
     
    Looks like you got yourself a 5-Star play wiith the Under...let's see if the number drops!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 9:23 PM ET #283

     
    HERE'S HOW THE GAME PLAYS OUT        COIN FLIP - HEADS   BEARS RECEIVE
     IST  QTR  -    COLTS -10       BEARS - 7
    2ND QTR  -    COLTS - 17      BEARS - 7
    3RD QTR  -    COLTS - 20      BEARS - 14
    4TH QTR  -    COLTS - 27       BEARS - 21   FINAL
     
    ANYTHING DIFFERENT I    THE TV AND COMPUTER LOL
     
    MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU ALL    LET'S ROLL
     
     
      
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    HERE'S HOW THE GAME PLAYS OUT        COIN FLIP - HEADS   BEARS RECEIVE
     IST  QTR  -    COLTS -10       BEARS - 7
    2ND QTR  -    COLTS - 17      BEARS - 7
    3RD QTR  -    COLTS - 20      BEARS - 14
    4TH QTR  -    COLTS - 27       BEARS - 21   FINAL
     
    ANYTHING DIFFERENT I    THE TV AND COMPUTER LOL
     
    MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU ALL    LET'S ROLL
     
     
      
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 9:35 PM ET #284

    If these teams score 17+ points in the first quarter I will fly Scorp out to LA and take him to Dodgers home opener and the cities best strip club for unlimited lap dances. I will also buy him all the dodger dogs and beers he wants. Old left guards can probably put down 6 dogs and 8 beers in a nine inning game.
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    If these teams score 17+ points in the first quarter I will fly Scorp out to LA and take him to Dodgers home opener and the cities best strip club for unlimited lap dances. I will also buy him all the dodger dogs and beers he wants. Old left guards can probably put down 6 dogs and 8 beers in a nine inning game.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 9:40 PM ET #285

    HEY JT                           AS LONG AS IM INVITED LOL
          
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    HEY JT                           AS LONG AS IM INVITED LOL
          
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 9:46 PM ET #286

    Colonel, this game is going under and so is the first quarter.....so sure, you are invited. I am that confident about this under. I will not go Chris Harris on you guys and back out from my end of the bargain....did you guys see that deal that Harris made last year and then backed out...unbelievable!!!!!
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    Colonel, this game is going under and so is the first quarter.....so sure, you are invited. I am that confident about this under. I will not go Chris Harris on you guys and back out from my end of the bargain....did you guys see that deal that Harris made last year and then backed out...unbelievable!!!!!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 9:55 PM ET #287

    OK JT
    AS LONG AS THE FINAL IS UNDER THAT IS ALL IM CONCERNED WITH ALONG WITH THE BEARS COVERING.
    LAP DANCE , DODGER DOGS, BEER    THIS IS GETTING BETTER BY THE MINUTE.
     
     
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    OK JT
    AS LONG AS THE FINAL IS UNDER THAT IS ALL IM CONCERNED WITH ALONG WITH THE BEARS COVERING.
    LAP DANCE , DODGER DOGS, BEER    THIS IS GETTING BETTER BY THE MINUTE.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 29, 2007 - 11:18 PM ET #288

    Hollywood...six dogs and 8 brewskis a game??? My Man, that's an INNING for us old slobberknockers!!! Truth be told, I gave up pork and beef a few years back and have never been a big beer man but I can knock back that Crown Royal like a first grader does Grape Kool-Aid... 
     
    What's the name of that really hot LA stripclub right now? Bill Maher has mentioned it...the Velvet Flamingo or something like that?? I'll see ya this summer, buddy...the Dodgers sked is out and they have 16 home games in July while the Angels have nine...I want to go see both stadiums and teams...wanna make it down to Petco Park as well...
     
    Back to football...totals are tricky for me and I completely trust your judgement...I always thought it was the bounce of a ball...one fumble, one interception return, one big play and you cheer/moan depending on the bet you made....generally I am only comfortable with overs (like most novices)....I think picking totals correctly is more difficult and takes more study than picking sides...as I have said countless times, I am lousy at totals...
     
    I am leaning with Chicago and the seven points because I just can't believe Coach Smith isn't going to commit to running the football (unlike NO)...I think they will strive for ball control and to run it down their throats (like they did to NO on that one drive before the half - all running plays for an eventual touchdown)...keep the Indy offense watching the game...power football with I-formations, power sweeps, wham blocks and belly plays...run Benson and Jones alternatively to keep them fresh...then sneak Peterson in for one of his patented screen plays...run first to set up Berrian and Muhammed for the intermediate and deep routes...I wish the Bears had a more potent TE and went more to him down the seam...haven't seen a lot of that from them this year...if they run the football effectively and can consistently control the LOS, they stand a darn good chance of winning this game...
     
    On defense, Chicago is a lousy zone team...I posted during the NO game that the Saints only chance late was the Bears continuing to play zone..of course, after all the turnovers it didn't matter anymore...if they box-foot around with their soft zone coverage and leave spots and holes open, Peyton will make them pay severely...both Tillman and Vasher are physical enough and talented enough to match-up 1-on-1 with Harrison and Wayne...jamming them at the LOS is key....get them off their routes early to disrupt the timing....if they are in nickle, Ricky Manning will have to come up big against TE Clark...unless they play regular D and  think a LB can cover him (which is problematic -  I can't see Hillenmeyer covering him on the strong side)...needless to say, the Bears have to play lights-out against this high octane offense to win this game..but we all know they are capable of doing exactly that...what will be interesting is to see how Chicago responds to the 1 back, 2 TE and 2 WR sets of the Colts...are the Colts physical enough to run effectively out of this formation? Hard to say...and I like Rhodes to do it more than Addai...Utecht is utilized as both an H-back and TE and Fletcher seems like a better receiver from what I have seen of him...Tom Moore will throw the sink at the Bears and they have to have an answer for all the various formations and personnel packages they will see...and I think the key will be to play man and pressure Manning as much as possible...
     
    Six more days to crunch this one...good luck men!
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    Hollywood...six dogs and 8 brewskis a game??? My Man, that's an INNING for us old slobberknockers!!! Truth be told, I gave up pork and beef a few years back and have never been a big beer man but I can knock back that Crown Royal like a first grader does Grape Kool-Aid... 
     
    What's the name of that really hot LA stripclub right now? Bill Maher has mentioned it...the Velvet Flamingo or something like that?? I'll see ya this summer, buddy...the Dodgers sked is out and they have 16 home games in July while the Angels have nine...I want to go see both stadiums and teams...wanna make it down to Petco Park as well...
     
    Back to football...totals are tricky for me and I completely trust your judgement...I always thought it was the bounce of a ball...one fumble, one interception return, one big play and you cheer/moan depending on the bet you made....generally I am only comfortable with overs (like most novices)....I think picking totals correctly is more difficult and takes more study than picking sides...as I have said countless times, I am lousy at totals...
     
    I am leaning with Chicago and the seven points because I just can't believe Coach Smith isn't going to commit to running the football (unlike NO)...I think they will strive for ball control and to run it down their throats (like they did to NO on that one drive before the half - all running plays for an eventual touchdown)...keep the Indy offense watching the game...power football with I-formations, power sweeps, wham blocks and belly plays...run Benson and Jones alternatively to keep them fresh...then sneak Peterson in for one of his patented screen plays...run first to set up Berrian and Muhammed for the intermediate and deep routes...I wish the Bears had a more potent TE and went more to him down the seam...haven't seen a lot of that from them this year...if they run the football effectively and can consistently control the LOS, they stand a darn good chance of winning this game...
     
    On defense, Chicago is a lousy zone team...I posted during the NO game that the Saints only chance late was the Bears continuing to play zone..of course, after all the turnovers it didn't matter anymore...if they box-foot around with their soft zone coverage and leave spots and holes open, Peyton will make them pay severely...both Tillman and Vasher are physical enough and talented enough to match-up 1-on-1 with Harrison and Wayne...jamming them at the LOS is key....get them off their routes early to disrupt the timing....if they are in nickle, Ricky Manning will have to come up big against TE Clark...unless they play regular D and  think a LB can cover him (which is problematic -  I can't see Hillenmeyer covering him on the strong side)...needless to say, the Bears have to play lights-out against this high octane offense to win this game..but we all know they are capable of doing exactly that...what will be interesting is to see how Chicago responds to the 1 back, 2 TE and 2 WR sets of the Colts...are the Colts physical enough to run effectively out of this formation? Hard to say...and I like Rhodes to do it more than Addai...Utecht is utilized as both an H-back and TE and Fletcher seems like a better receiver from what I have seen of him...Tom Moore will throw the sink at the Bears and they have to have an answer for all the various formations and personnel packages they will see...and I think the key will be to play man and pressure Manning as much as possible...
     
    Six more days to crunch this one...good luck men!
     
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    Leave it to you Scorpio - 8 days of posting and reading about this game, and you are the first person to come up with any type of LOGICAL analysis in favor of the Bears.
     
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    I am not sold on the Bears yet, 3rd&Long...my first impulse was the Colts and over (and I still may swing this way)...I certainly cannot fault you for swinging that way...I just think a Defensive Head Coach like Coach Smith is going to commit to a run game...for the Saints to run Deuce and Bush less than 10 times was an abomination when playing a team like Chicago...I can't see my fellow Texan Lovie making a similar error...I want to see the Bears come out and run the ball three straight times... which is something that the Saints NEVER did...good things happen when you run the football.
     
    If I roll with the Bears, I will be holding my breath....the Colts are serious business...and they have the potential to severely beat any team they play...with the possible exception of Tom Brady, no one runs their particular offense as competently as Manning does...he is like another coach on the field...he won that game last week on the strength of his arm and his ability to read coverages and make the tough throws in crunch time...most QB's and teams would have been cooked down 21-3...no lead is safe with him at the helm directing a comeback...
     
    I think the Bears may also win the turnover battle...they are the more physical team...they are the dogs..they have something to prove..they are not the glamour team...they have the best MLB in the game and that is a position I know very well...Ulracher counters Manning in a lot of ways...strength vs. strength...and on a grass field outside I think Chicago has an edge...Benson ran with a vengeance last week...and Jones slides in and out of creases so well...he runs so low to the ground and with such great balance that once he hits a small crack he can take it to the house with his agility and speed...they are a potent 1-2 punch on a grass field against a rush defense that has been shredded in the past..and I think if the Bears offensive line takes over this game it could be a VERY long day for the Colts...but as I say...I am not sold on either team.....yet!
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    I am not sold on the Bears yet, 3rd&Long...my first impulse was the Colts and over (and I still may swing this way)...I certainly cannot fault you for swinging that way...I just think a Defensive Head Coach like Coach Smith is going to commit to a run game...for the Saints to run Deuce and Bush less than 10 times was an abomination when playing a team like Chicago...I can't see my fellow Texan Lovie making a similar error...I want to see the Bears come out and run the ball three straight times... which is something that the Saints NEVER did...good things happen when you run the football.
     
    If I roll with the Bears, I will be holding my breath....the Colts are serious business...and they have the potential to severely beat any team they play...with the possible exception of Tom Brady, no one runs their particular offense as competently as Manning does...he is like another coach on the field...he won that game last week on the strength of his arm and his ability to read coverages and make the tough throws in crunch time...most QB's and teams would have been cooked down 21-3...no lead is safe with him at the helm directing a comeback...
     
    I think the Bears may also win the turnover battle...they are the more physical team...they are the dogs..they have something to prove..they are not the glamour team...they have the best MLB in the game and that is a position I know very well...Ulracher counters Manning in a lot of ways...strength vs. strength...and on a grass field outside I think Chicago has an edge...Benson ran with a vengeance last week...and Jones slides in and out of creases so well...he runs so low to the ground and with such great balance that once he hits a small crack he can take it to the house with his agility and speed...they are a potent 1-2 punch on a grass field against a rush defense that has been shredded in the past..and I think if the Bears offensive line takes over this game it could be a VERY long day for the Colts...but as I say...I am not sold on either team.....yet!
     
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    I believe this game to go over.  I am not sold on the Colts defense, Brady is worlds ahead of Grossman but he exploited the Colts and showed the Bears how to score on them, and how to loosen them up.  However I think without Mike Brow in the secondary it is gonna take nothing short of a miracle for Manning not to throw for 600 yards against the Bears secondary.  Like the Saints did to the Bears, their defense is only good versus the run you can pass on them without too much resistance.  I see this as being a shoot out.
     
    Bears 24
    Colts 41
     
    Grossman will throw 2 tds for and 1 late in the 4th quarter when the Bears are driving to get the game back to a fg.  Sanders will intercept and run it all the way back
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    I believe this game to go over.  I am not sold on the Colts defense, Brady is worlds ahead of Grossman but he exploited the Colts and showed the Bears how to score on them, and how to loosen them up.  However I think without Mike Brow in the secondary it is gonna take nothing short of a miracle for Manning not to throw for 600 yards against the Bears secondary.  Like the Saints did to the Bears, their defense is only good versus the run you can pass on them without too much resistance.  I see this as being a shoot out.
     
    Bears 24
    Colts 41
     
    Grossman will throw 2 tds for and 1 late in the 4th quarter when the Bears are driving to get the game back to a fg.  Sanders will intercept and run it all the way back
     
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    Let me see Peyton and the Colts went to a cold open field in Baltimore and a Ravens team which IMHO has a better defence than the Bears and beat them with their own defence.  Look for that same COLTS defence to show up this week against the Bears and Peyton will take over from there.  COLTS WIN, COLTS WIN, COLTS WIN.  Final score Indy 31 Bears 10
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    Let me see Peyton and the Colts went to a cold open field in Baltimore and a Ravens team which IMHO has a better defence than the Bears and beat them with their own defence.  Look for that same COLTS defence to show up this week against the Bears and Peyton will take over from there.  COLTS WIN, COLTS WIN, COLTS WIN.  Final score Indy 31 Bears 10
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2007 - 11:47 AM ET #293

    so the line moves to 48........ still like the UNDER
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2007 - 12:19 PM ET #294

    covers needs to make another thread like have 2 threads available to much.
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2007 - 1:45 PM ET #295

    Love the Over In This one!
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    The first Manning with a ring is coming out on Sunday guys. You won't find ONE player on that field that wants that ring more than he does. Desire AND talent can make someone almost super human as Peyton will be on Sunday. Think stats all day and crunch this thing to dust. At the end of the day the he's got his hardware. I'm not even a big fan of the colts (49ers next year Baby!).  Colts/Over and you'll be a happy man on Sunday!
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    The first Manning with a ring is coming out on Sunday guys. You won't find ONE player on that field that wants that ring more than he does. Desire AND talent can make someone almost super human as Peyton will be on Sunday. Think stats all day and crunch this thing to dust. At the end of the day the he's got his hardware. I'm not even a big fan of the colts (49ers next year Baby!).  Colts/Over and you'll be a happy man on Sunday!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 30, 2007 - 3:48 PM ET #297

            49ers next year.....you're crazy
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    Hunted,
    you're right about Manning getting a ring on Sunday.....their first names are Ricky and Daniel!!!!!!!
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    you're right about Manning getting a ring on Sunday.....their first names are Ricky and Daniel!!!!!!!
     
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    Don't dog my 49rs JT. I know they suck. I've been in pain for the last 10 years over those guys but look out next year. Solid D with 8 picks in the draft and their  Salary cap money, they'll be in the playoffs. Baby steps JT, baby steps! Just ask Denver. They watched the playoffs on TV this year because of my boys!
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    Don't dog my 49rs JT. I know they suck. I've been in pain for the last 10 years over those guys but look out next year. Solid D with 8 picks in the draft and their  Salary cap money, they'll be in the playoffs. Baby steps JT, baby steps! Just ask Denver. They watched the playoffs on TV this year because of my boys!
     
     
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    Sorry folks I am about to go Scorpio on all you with my post. Reading Scorpio's short story he talks about why he does not like to play totals. He states the fact that a fumble, an interception or one big play can affect the total and eventually the outcome of the game and he is 100% correct about that. It's gambling there are many uncertainties and factors that can change the outcome and make or brake your day. If there wasn't these uncertainties in gambling and if there wasn't we'd all be well off from wagering. Uncertainties factor in every sport: Mariano Rivera is lights out 98% of the time but he gave it up to the Sox back in the playoffs and the Yanks lose. The slow rolling ball going between Buckners leg, come on he makes that play 999 out of a 1000 times. A missed layup or free throw in a basketball game. Basically the things we just can't predict.
    Well these factors that my boy Scorp talks about plays into who wins or loses more than it affects the total of a game. If we look at these two teams playing in the Superbowl the things we can't predict have affected both of these teams all year and everyother team in the NFL. The Bears more than the Colts. In the Bears 3 loses and the one game they should have lost (Arizona) they averaged 5.25 turnovers in those 4 games. a +/- differential of -22 turnovers to those 4 opponents!!!! The colts in their 4 loses averaged 2 turnovers in those loses and a +/- of -4 turnovers to those 4 opponents.
    Something else that Scorp points out and that is establishing the run. This is a huge factor for the Bears offense and for the Colts defense. In the 4 Bears loses (I include Arizona game) the Bears averaged 26 rush attempts in those games. In the Colts 4 loses they gave up an average of 38.75 rush attempts to their opponents. In the Bears 12 other games(all wins) they averaged 33.33 rush attempts a game and in the playoffs they are averaging 40 attempts a game and of course won both games. The Colts are a different team outside the RCA dome. All 4 loses came on the road and like I said those teams averaged almost 39 attempts a game. In ALL their road games teams averaged 36.50 rush attempts a game. At the RCA dome teams only averaged 25 attempts a game and of course the Colts are undefeated at home this year.
    Back to the turnover again. The Bears in their victories (not including Arizona) they averaged only 1.17 turnovers and had a +/- of +22 turnovers in those 12 games.
    Yes the Colts defense looked good away from the RCA dome in the playoffs at Baltimore. Baltimore only had 20 rush attempts and were +2 in the turnover battle.
    So basically what I am saying is just like most football games and many other sports the team that makes less mistakes i.e. fumbles, interceptions in this case will most likely win this badboy outright. Also the key to beating the Colts is: get them out of their cozy little dome, limit turnovers, and establish the run. The blueprint looks like if the Bears can get 35+ carries their chances of WINNING this game are excellent.
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    Sorry folks I am about to go Scorpio on all you with my post. Reading Scorpio's short story he talks about why he does not like to play totals. He states the fact that a fumble, an interception or one big play can affect the total and eventually the outcome of the game and he is 100% correct about that. It's gambling there are many uncertainties and factors that can change the outcome and make or brake your day. If there wasn't these uncertainties in gambling and if there wasn't we'd all be well off from wagering. Uncertainties factor in every sport: Mariano Rivera is lights out 98% of the time but he gave it up to the Sox back in the playoffs and the Yanks lose. The slow rolling ball going between Buckners leg, come on he makes that play 999 out of a 1000 times. A missed layup or free throw in a basketball game. Basically the things we just can't predict.
    Well these factors that my boy Scorp talks about plays into who wins or loses more than it affects the total of a game. If we look at these two teams playing in the Superbowl the things we can't predict have affected both of these teams all year and everyother team in the NFL. The Bears more than the Colts. In the Bears 3 loses and the one game they should have lost (Arizona) they averaged 5.25 turnovers in those 4 games. a +/- differential of -22 turnovers to those 4 opponents!!!! The colts in their 4 loses averaged 2 turnovers in those loses and a +/- of -4 turnovers to those 4 opponents.
    Something else that Scorp points out and that is establishing the run. This is a huge factor for the Bears offense and for the Colts defense. In the 4 Bears loses (I include Arizona game) the Bears averaged 26 rush attempts in those games. In the Colts 4 loses they gave up an average of 38.75 rush attempts to their opponents. In the Bears 12 other games(all wins) they averaged 33.33 rush attempts a game and in the playoffs they are averaging 40 attempts a game and of course won both games. The Colts are a different team outside the RCA dome. All 4 loses came on the road and like I said those teams averaged almost 39 attempts a game. In ALL their road games teams averaged 36.50 rush attempts a game. At the RCA dome teams only averaged 25 attempts a game and of course the Colts are undefeated at home this year.
    Back to the turnover again. The Bears in their victories (not including Arizona) they averaged only 1.17 turnovers and had a +/- of +22 turnovers in those 12 games.
    Yes the Colts defense looked good away from the RCA dome in the playoffs at Baltimore. Baltimore only had 20 rush attempts and were +2 in the turnover battle.
    So basically what I am saying is just like most football games and many other sports the team that makes less mistakes i.e. fumbles, interceptions in this case will most likely win this badboy outright. Also the key to beating the Colts is: get them out of their cozy little dome, limit turnovers, and establish the run. The blueprint looks like if the Bears can get 35+ carries their chances of WINNING this game are excellent.
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