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YANKEES SUCK YANKEES SUCK      
           OH I MEAN
    GIANTS SUCK GIANTS SUCK
                      GO PATS     KICK THERE ASSES BACK TO NEW YORK                                    
 
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take the over!!!
 
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Alright I know that you guys are smart gamblers out here, so here's what I did with my superbowl bet and I hope you guys learn something from this bet
 
First, I bet $300 on the Giants +12 (so with -110 juice that's $330 to win $300)
 
Then I bet $100 on the margin of victory game prop for NE to win by 12-16 at 5-1 (so $100 to win $500)
 
Then I bet $100 on NE to win by 17-20 at 8-1 (so $100 to win $800)
 
Then I bet $100 on NE to win by 21-24 at 7-1 (so $100 to win $700)
 
So basically what I did is if the Giants cover the game or win outright, I lose nothing as I win $300 and lose $300 on the props...but if NE wins by 12-24 pts, I win $170 at 12-16, win $470 at 17-20 and win $370 at 21-24 pts)
 
So I know I'll get the criticism, well you are essentially risking $600 to win at most $470, and an average of ~$340 ($170+$470+$370 / 3) = $1010/3 and just doubling the line essentially all the way up to +24 pts for the Giants. Yes that's true, so what I'm doing is esssentially making this game a pick'em...but if the Giants somehow pull off the miracle, they key note to what I'm doing is I will push, not lose (since I will win the straight bet with the Giants and lose all 3 props), and I just think there's a better chance that the Giants win this game then NE winning by 24+
 
Hope this all makes sense, if my logic is wrong, please let me know
 
Now I could lose $600 in all if the Patriots win by more than 24, but if they do that, phew, congrats to the Patriots and I deserve to lose a big amount, but from the Giants winning to all the way for NE winning by 24, I'm covered and if NE wins by 12-24, I win a nice amunt especially at 12-16 pts
 
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Posted: #229
sorry I meant last statement, especially at 17-20 pts
 
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The Giants will be slaughtered. Eli will show his true colors with a pair of INTs, the Giants running game will be largely contained by a stellar D-line and Lbs playing their asses off. Brady and his WRs will be nearly perfect vs. a weak secondary. Moss will be running hard every play, its the SB.

38-17.
 
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Love the G-Men at +12.5
 
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new england  willl romp
 
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BUY
 
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BUY A COUPLE OF POINTS GET THE GMEN TO 14  TAKE THE PATS IN THE MONEY LINE WATCH THE GAME AND COLLECT THE GIANTS D DOSE NOT MATCH UP WELL WITH NE.  A ONE TRICK PONY ALL THEY CAN DO IS RUSH BRADY.  I FIGURE THAT WILL HOLD NE UNDER 40 IF IT AIN'T WINDY IN AZ ELI WILL TOSS 3 OR 4 TDS FINAL SCORE GMEN  24  NE 35
 
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Backwood I must be missing something the way I figure it the only way you win is if it falls17-20/21-24 then you win 270/70. If it falls at 13 it pushes,lose 330 giants,lose 100 on 17-20 bet,lose 100 21-24 lose vig 30.So the only way you really win is if it fall at 17-20 and then you risk 600 to make 270. Dude that makes no sense you out thought yourself here.
 
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Posted: #236
Quote Originally Posted by tsw:

Irish, I  FLIPPED today, there will be history made on Sunday, Manning bros. will win back to back SBs.

Giants ML +400, 3 units (1-5) + it cost me a 1/2 unit to take off my Pats-12. Just a hunch, that's all, something to do w/ this spygate thing (cheaters never benefit).

 

I think the bartender at Frankies is spiking your drinks again.  Hopefully you re-flip by gametime lol.   NO WAY the Giants win.

 

 "Eli Manning guides Giants to Super Upset"

tsw, going to add some Giants +12 money before game time, think the line might move up, a little.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

I took the Giants on the final at +12 and still waiting for more line movement to place more investments on along with a lot of prop wagers.

Good luck on your Pats SU victory my friend and your Giants play



Hello my friend, how the hell are ya?  It's about time you made an appearance in this thread.  Seeing you on the Giants +12 makes me a little disappointed, but thats ok.  Spent all of last night going through every prop bet and finding the best ones.  Here is what I could come up with...let me know what you think.  God I wish they would just move the game to Saturday at 6pm.

Total Punts by both teams......UNDER 7.5
   - This one I think is the best prop bet out there and on Bodog it's 1/1 odds!!

Total Sacks by both Teams.....UNDER 4

Eli Manning OVER 225 passing yards
 - They are more than likely going to be behind in the 2nd half which means they will need to abandon the running game




 
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Quote Originally Posted by Prestigious:

Anyone here subscribe to BRANDON LANG's site and know who he is picking in the game?   He hasnt been that great this year but his Super Bowl picks are pretty solid. 

On Steve Czaban's show on Fox Sports Radio, Brandon Lang took the Giants at +12.5. 

https://czabe.com/daily/archives/2008/02/ready_for_a_leg.html

 

 

 
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spytheweb your prob one of the most idiotic ppl ive ever heard. i'll even throw you above all the ignorant racists in the world.

any team that has played the patriots are going to look like they had a tough schedule because guess what.....you have to add in a team that went 18-0, 16-0 in reg season.

And btw if the pats really did have such a "cream puff" schedule (which they absolutely did not) i'm pretty sure...not positive...kinda a 50-50 shot here think the pats played your beloved g-men in that "cream puff" so with that info (you know the fact that you called "YOUR" team a "CREAM PUFF") makes a pretty good arguement against yourself in sayin that the pats can beat a "cream puff" team hell they already did it 18 times right, right. yea i thought so.

but the real point is that the if ur gonna tease it you can go either way on both sides, but i took the pts way early, i've made plenty this playoffs season anyway doing the exact same thing, taking the pts. (only lost the hawks n packers game)
 
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Posted: #240
Who did Dr. Bob pick???
 
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dtmadden, unlike you i can take name calling, welcome it. Myself, because you don't agree with me, so what, it's a football game.  Defend your position, don't attack me. BTW, Giants were picked to finish last in their Div. So much for the experts.

coldhardfootballfacts.com:


As we said last week, no team in the NFL this year is more balanced than Green Bay. We're not surprised to see their Quality Stat beatdown of New York here ... although the Giants were similarly outmatched against Dallas, and that turned out pretty well for them. But Dallas at least showed some weaknesses that offered the Giants a glimmer of hope. Green Bay shows none. This game looks to be even more one-sided than the other conference title game, with Green Bay holding definite advantages in everything: Quality Stats, weather, health, location and certainly intangibles with a 38-year-old legend QB. It's a pretty clear-cut choice.
 
The final score: Green Bay 34, New York 14

Sound familiar?

Deep down inside you don't want to face what's next if the Patriots don't win.


 
Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
 
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where does everyone here go to view the money lines for the prop bets? i know bodog has many, but I'm also trying to buy points on the line... any insight would be very helpful

thanks
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

SPENDING IT ALL DANSTYK -- AND I'M GOING TO THANK CHARLIELO 55 AND BLUEFIN FOR CONVINCING ME TO BET TAILS  LOL
GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR PATS ON SUNDAY BUT BEWARE OF THOSE 2 PSU PLAYERS ON THE G-MEN.
IRISH I THINK WE WILL KNOW BY HALF TIME IF WE ARE WINNING OR LOSING THIS GAME IF THE GIANTS ARE WITHIN A TOUCHDOWN WE ARE WINNIG THE BET.
GOOD LUCK ON THE UNDER IRISH 
BY THE WAY I'M ON THE IRISH AGAINST PROVIDENCE TONIGHT IN COLLEGE HOOPS

I agree my man....and thank you.....did you cover on that OT game against Providence??? I never saw the spread.  IMO, when playing my beloved.....don't take the outcome.....just pound the over......you'll win more than you lose throughout the year. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by bigcat33:

 

How come BellyChick wasn't a genius in Cleveland?

For the same reason Charlie Weis was a genius at New England and isn't much to jump for joy about now at ND. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by charlielo55:

tsw, going to add some Giants +12 money before game time, think the line might move up, a little.

 

Right on my man.....GL to you.....that money line would be sweet!!!

 
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spy technically we're on the same side of the money here i already said i put my money on the pts, but don't say the pats played a weak schedule cuz they didn't. the 72 dolphins played a weak schedule far weaker then ANY schedule you see in the nfl today. and don't you dare say the pats are gonna lose cuz (words from adam sandler) "their all gonna laugh at you".

not only are the patriots better in every match up except for their punter (which is skewed because hanson doesn't even have enough punts to be eligible for a real avg they have one of if not the best playoff coach in the history of the nfl. bill is 15-3 in the playoffs 15-3. Vince Lombardi was 9-1 and the trophy's named after him. and the giants have....well tom coughlin and anybody that was a BC fan like myself really knows how good he is. I wish i knew the ratio but bill is the number one coach with 2 weeks to prepare for a team, if someone could find that id be very grateful.

so onto the real match ups tho, brady doesn't lose in domes, period. moss will be doubled every play, hes gonna get pressed and then saftey help over the top, yea obvious, but then theres welker. the best slot guy in football. big mismatch no matter whos covering him. and pats will most likely be in 4 wide to start the game and gaffney has been huge as well the last 6 weeks. and again not to mention kevin faulk the best receiving back in the game today. (he really is incredible and has been for years and has finally cut down on those fumbles) the pats should easily put up 30 on this banged up team that has basically ran a ridiculous playoffs,  every game was jus tough plan n simple (again took them everytime neway so i don't wanna see you quote another damn expert cuz  nobody cares what experts say neway)

pats d is embarrassing this yr. they look good with their stats but their deceiving because they score so much teams have to go to the pass quickly jus to try n catch up. corners play 10 yds off and play outside techs every play, even 3rd n short. linebackers are old  due to the loss of colvin, but the giants arent really that scary to their linebackers. jacobs isn't the kind of back theat will give them hell and boss sure as hell won;t make any difference.  but as long as eli doesnt turn it over they stay semi close and if they can return another kickoff like last time that will help.

the only thing the giants have going for them is one of the best pass rushing ends in the game. the only better are the colts. but its in a dome and their speed rushing ends so they could get to brady, but i really wouldn't bank on it. the only way to get to brady is up the middle so he can't step up.

pats should score quickly and often in the 1st half and then slow it down with maroney like they've been doing the last few weeks. and maroney has gone very unnoticed this yr he is a good back when he isn't dancing around in the backfield. i'm pretty sure hes had over 100 yds every game in the playoffs. almost all in the 2nd half.

if the giants are smart they will lock down moss and just get beat by everyone, and watch for watson in the redzone hes been real active. pats will try n lockdown plax prob won't do a great job but he isnt enough to win it but i wouldn't be surprised to see him score twice, most likely neither on long bombs.

bottom line is i don't see  ANY coach in the nfl, even tom coughlin getting absolutely blown out in the biggest game of the season having 2 weeks to prepare, but then again crazier things have happened.(like hilary clinton winning the primary in NH) honestly though the history channel shoulda had rights to this game jus like the last time these two played each other lol 34-24 pats everyone enjoy the game.


 
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Posted: #247
Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:

Actually been busy with work and spending time with the family but all in all it's all good.

I see you have been to Haleakala to see the sunrise that picture in my avatar is from Wednesday and the snow over here on Maui is slowly melting away.

Good luck with your Pats pick my friend as I am on the other side on this one

glad to hear all is well. best of luck to you tomorrow as well one of us will win,  i have been to maui at least 8 times, i went to an institute there for school, i was just married there in sept. it is my favorite of the islands, Kauai  is a close second. anyhow hope the offseason finds you blessed and prosperous
 
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ANOTHER LOSER ON NOTRE DAME
PROVIDENCE COVERS
I'LL NEVER LEARN IRISH
 
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NE -2 to complete a bunch of teasers w/ NCAA
 
 
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Howdy fellas! I have been on the Gmen from the start and am sticking to it. It just seems too easy and that scares me a little.
 
It's been a very interesting season and it's been a pleasure to converse with my fellow degenerates through the highs and lows.
 
Col,Hawkeye, Scorp, Saber, Lefty, Danstyk, Irish and of course BigD-God Bless and Good Luck!
 
I hope to see you all again in August as I retire from wagering after the Super Bowl. Time to start buiding my war chest for next season.
 
If I missed anyone please accept my apologies and GL too all on their wagers!
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