Jeff, unfortunately, it was inevitable that the haters would come out after the Cardinal loss. It'll be even worse if SD loses tonight. My advice is to not even address them. Ignorance is not bliss in this situation.
well said bruin. Jeff - you know how these forums go...sadly it will probably just get worse with idiots. try to just ignore
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Quote Originally Posted by bruin95:
Jeff, unfortunately, it was inevitable that the haters would come out after the Cardinal loss. It'll be even worse if SD loses tonight. My advice is to not even address them. Ignorance is not bliss in this situation.
well said bruin. Jeff - you know how these forums go...sadly it will probably just get worse with idiots. try to just ignore
oh,shi+...this is going to end badly...unfortunately jeff with the nature of this place the dic..ks out-number the good folks in terms of making their idiotic feelings known and over-reacting completely after every single game...you see it like a damn plague round here day after day after day...believe me there are far more that will appreciate your contribution massively than there are those that post pointless drivel.
im hoping that you find it in you to completely ignore the meatsticks...but unfortunately i have a bad feeling your patience wears thin pretty quickly.
as you say,its a damn CHASE...to whine after a single loss is beyond insanity,but this is who we are dealing with here
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oh,shi+...this is going to end badly...unfortunately jeff with the nature of this place the dic..ks out-number the good folks in terms of making their idiotic feelings known and over-reacting completely after every single game...you see it like a damn plague round here day after day after day...believe me there are far more that will appreciate your contribution massively than there are those that post pointless drivel.
im hoping that you find it in you to completely ignore the meatsticks...but unfortunately i have a bad feeling your patience wears thin pretty quickly.
as you say,its a damn CHASE...to whine after a single loss is beyond insanity,but this is who we are dealing with here
It's risky driving to work everyday too. I'll take my chances with a system that is 3689-0 past 5 years. Probably a lot more than that if I checked further. Thanks for the luck though.
Oh I didn't know games ended in the 6th inning either!
3689-0? Are you wacky? And your secretary, Bart, quit the "system" after winning the first 12 chases. Shows the size of his balls. Was patting himself on the back for $120 profit!
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Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:
It's risky driving to work everyday too. I'll take my chances with a system that is 3689-0 past 5 years. Probably a lot more than that if I checked further. Thanks for the luck though.
Oh I didn't know games ended in the 6th inning either!
3689-0? Are you wacky? And your secretary, Bart, quit the "system" after winning the first 12 chases. Shows the size of his balls. Was patting himself on the back for $120 profit!
Lol rather than chasing like idiots you can tail me in my +1.5 thread because I know wtf im doing without chasing at a 16-4 record and started with 500 and already doubled my account.
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Lol rather than chasing like idiots you can tail me in my +1.5 thread because I know wtf im doing without chasing at a 16-4 record and started with 500 and already doubled my account.
O.K. guys. This is the way this needs to be played. I have looked at the data. In order to have this phenomenal record, you must have had a hit rate somewhere higher than the expected value given the odds.
If you were to run a 2 game chase on the "C" and "D" bets ONLY: (assume -150 odds)
2013 - (108-9) +60.75 units 2012 - (103-15) +24.25 units 2011 - (83-9) +35.75 units 2010 - (115-15) +36.25 units 2009 - (112-11) +54.25 units
Your unit size can go WAY up. A 2 game chase loss will be 5.25 units. A unit size of 5% of your bankroll could be used. Your ROI will be much higher. This is the way to do it.
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O.K. guys. This is the way this needs to be played. I have looked at the data. In order to have this phenomenal record, you must have had a hit rate somewhere higher than the expected value given the odds.
If you were to run a 2 game chase on the "C" and "D" bets ONLY: (assume -150 odds)
2013 - (108-9) +60.75 units 2012 - (103-15) +24.25 units 2011 - (83-9) +35.75 units 2010 - (115-15) +36.25 units 2009 - (112-11) +54.25 units
Your unit size can go WAY up. A 2 game chase loss will be 5.25 units. A unit size of 5% of your bankroll could be used. Your ROI will be much higher. This is the way to do it.
Lol rather than chasing like idiots you can tail me in my +1.5 thread because I know wtf im doing without chasing at a 16-4 record and started with 500 and already doubled my account.
So what you are claiming to be is Jeff's mini-me....bravo! Jeff knows what he is talking about and I don't feel like an idiot.
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Quote Originally Posted by RF1:
Lol rather than chasing like idiots you can tail me in my +1.5 thread because I know wtf im doing without chasing at a 16-4 record and started with 500 and already doubled my account.
So what you are claiming to be is Jeff's mini-me....bravo! Jeff knows what he is talking about and I don't feel like an idiot.
oh,shi+...this is going to end badly...unfortunately jeff with the nature of this place the dic..ks out-number the good folks in terms of making their idiotic feelings known and over-reacting completely after every single game...you see it like a damn plague round here day after day after day...believe me there are far more that will appreciate your contribution massively than there are those that post pointless drivel.
im hoping that you find it in you to completely ignore the meatsticks...but unfortunately i have a bad feeling your patience wears thin pretty quickly.
as you say,its a damn CHASE...to whine after a single loss is beyond insanity,but this is who we are dealing with here
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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
oh,shi+...this is going to end badly...unfortunately jeff with the nature of this place the dic..ks out-number the good folks in terms of making their idiotic feelings known and over-reacting completely after every single game...you see it like a damn plague round here day after day after day...believe me there are far more that will appreciate your contribution massively than there are those that post pointless drivel.
im hoping that you find it in you to completely ignore the meatsticks...but unfortunately i have a bad feeling your patience wears thin pretty quickly.
as you say,its a damn CHASE...to whine after a single loss is beyond insanity,but this is who we are dealing with here
O.K. guys. This is the way this needs to be played. I have looked at the data. In order to have this phenomenal record, you must have had a hit rate somewhere higher than the expected value given the odds.
If you were to run a 2 game chase on the "C" and "D" bets ONLY: (assume -150 odds)
2013 - (108-9) +60.75 units 2012 - (103-15) +24.25 units 2011 - (83-9) +35.75 units 2010 - (115-15) +36.25 units 2009 - (112-11) +54.25 units
Your unit size can go WAY up. A 2 game chase loss will be 5.25 units. A unit size of 5% of your bankroll could be used. Your ROI will be much higher. This is the way to do it.
I was thinking the same. Most guys are worried about being involved in too many chases at once, and may not even have the BR to handle that anyway. So I figured it would be wise to simply start at C and 3 game chase it, Sure they are not going to be daily and certainly not often, but With so little outcomes, one could easily put together a 3 game chase on a small bankroll.
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Quote Originally Posted by Columboknows:
O.K. guys. This is the way this needs to be played. I have looked at the data. In order to have this phenomenal record, you must have had a hit rate somewhere higher than the expected value given the odds.
If you were to run a 2 game chase on the "C" and "D" bets ONLY: (assume -150 odds)
2013 - (108-9) +60.75 units 2012 - (103-15) +24.25 units 2011 - (83-9) +35.75 units 2010 - (115-15) +36.25 units 2009 - (112-11) +54.25 units
Your unit size can go WAY up. A 2 game chase loss will be 5.25 units. A unit size of 5% of your bankroll could be used. Your ROI will be much higher. This is the way to do it.
I was thinking the same. Most guys are worried about being involved in too many chases at once, and may not even have the BR to handle that anyway. So I figured it would be wise to simply start at C and 3 game chase it, Sure they are not going to be daily and certainly not often, but With so little outcomes, one could easily put together a 3 game chase on a small bankroll.
oh,shi+...this is going to end badly...unfortunately jeff with the nature of this place the dic..ks out-number the good folks in terms of making their idiotic feelings known and over-reacting completely after every single game...you see it like a damn plague round here day after day after day...believe me there are far more that will appreciate your contribution massively than there are those that post pointless drivel.
im hoping that you find it in you to completely ignore the meatsticks...but unfortunately i have a bad feeling your patience wears thin pretty quickly.
as you say,its a damn CHASE...to whine after a single loss is beyond insanity,but this is who we are dealing with here
Stop overreacting like a bi*ch!! Your extreme level of sycophancy is neither going to help win games nor stop people hating on the system. Just STFU.
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Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:
oh,shi+...this is going to end badly...unfortunately jeff with the nature of this place the dic..ks out-number the good folks in terms of making their idiotic feelings known and over-reacting completely after every single game...you see it like a damn plague round here day after day after day...believe me there are far more that will appreciate your contribution massively than there are those that post pointless drivel.
im hoping that you find it in you to completely ignore the meatsticks...but unfortunately i have a bad feeling your patience wears thin pretty quickly.
as you say,its a damn CHASE...to whine after a single loss is beyond insanity,but this is who we are dealing with here
Stop overreacting like a bi*ch!! Your extreme level of sycophancy is neither going to help win games nor stop people hating on the system. Just STFU.
Jeff- out of curiosity how many games are you playing a day? I am feeling like you have 5-8 bets going on at once in 4-5 different chases.....we know the parameters in the one chase (bet run line of underdog of lowest rotation on the board). Have you posted any of the parameters of the other chases? Also, will this new chase that started today always have two games a day or will it vary day to day? Thanks for taking the time to answer!
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Jeff- out of curiosity how many games are you playing a day? I am feeling like you have 5-8 bets going on at once in 4-5 different chases.....we know the parameters in the one chase (bet run line of underdog of lowest rotation on the board). Have you posted any of the parameters of the other chases? Also, will this new chase that started today always have two games a day or will it vary day to day? Thanks for taking the time to answer!
Jeff- out of curiosity how many games are you playing a day? I am feeling like you have 5-8 bets going on at once in 4-5 different chases.....we know the parameters in the one chase (bet run line of underdog of lowest rotation on the board). Have you posted any of the parameters of the other chases? Also, will this new chase that started today always have two games a day or will it vary day to day? Thanks for taking the time to answer!
I have 4 chases going on at once plus my personal plays I do. No I have not posted parameters for the other 3 systems and willl not do so. The G.S.E chase will vary in the amount of plays.
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Quote Originally Posted by Holdieinone:
Jeff- out of curiosity how many games are you playing a day? I am feeling like you have 5-8 bets going on at once in 4-5 different chases.....we know the parameters in the one chase (bet run line of underdog of lowest rotation on the board). Have you posted any of the parameters of the other chases? Also, will this new chase that started today always have two games a day or will it vary day to day? Thanks for taking the time to answer!
I have 4 chases going on at once plus my personal plays I do. No I have not posted parameters for the other 3 systems and willl not do so. The G.S.E chase will vary in the amount of plays.
O.K. guys. This is the way this needs to be played. I have looked at the data. In order to have this phenomenal record, you must have had a hit rate somewhere higher than the expected value given the odds.
If you were to run a 2 game chase on the "C" and "D" bets ONLY: (assume -150 odds)
2013 - (108-9) +60.75 units 2012 - (103-15) +24.25 units 2011 - (83-9) +35.75 units 2010 - (115-15) +36.25 units 2009 - (112-11) +54.25 units
Your unit size can go WAY up. A 2 game chase loss will be 5.25 units. A unit size of 5% of your bankroll could be used. Your ROI will be much higher. This is the way to do it.
Your reasoning for starting at game C doesn't make any sense because if you skipped games A and B last year,you missed out on approx. 650 wins,and games A and B alone hit at an 84.3% clip. Check out jeffs stats in the "systems and strategies" forum (post #1) titled GREATEST SYSTEM EVER results for the last 5 years. Why is everyone like you on here trying to reinvent the wheel? Just go with whatever has been working
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Quote Originally Posted by Columboknows:
O.K. guys. This is the way this needs to be played. I have looked at the data. In order to have this phenomenal record, you must have had a hit rate somewhere higher than the expected value given the odds.
If you were to run a 2 game chase on the "C" and "D" bets ONLY: (assume -150 odds)
2013 - (108-9) +60.75 units 2012 - (103-15) +24.25 units 2011 - (83-9) +35.75 units 2010 - (115-15) +36.25 units 2009 - (112-11) +54.25 units
Your unit size can go WAY up. A 2 game chase loss will be 5.25 units. A unit size of 5% of your bankroll could be used. Your ROI will be much higher. This is the way to do it.
Your reasoning for starting at game C doesn't make any sense because if you skipped games A and B last year,you missed out on approx. 650 wins,and games A and B alone hit at an 84.3% clip. Check out jeffs stats in the "systems and strategies" forum (post #1) titled GREATEST SYSTEM EVER results for the last 5 years. Why is everyone like you on here trying to reinvent the wheel? Just go with whatever has been working
Your reasoning for starting at game C doesn't make any sense because if you skipped games A and B last year,you missed out on approx. 650 wins,and games A and B alone hit at an 84.3% clip. Check out jeffs stats in the "systems and strategies" forum (post #1) titled GREATEST SYSTEM EVER results for the last 5 years. Why is everyone like you on here trying to reinvent the wheel? Just go with whatever has been working
Who cares about what you miss out on? What you miss out on in games A and B are bets that are barely if at all profitable compared to the expected odds. What I have extrapolated is actually an edge.
If you were to just flat bet bets "c" and "d" ONLY--no chasing--your record would be 521-271 (65.78%)
60% is break even for -150 odds
Think about this. Chasing bets "c" and "d" only costs you 5.25 units. Let's round up to 6 units. Let's give us enough cushion to cover 3 chase losses in a row. That would be 18 units. We will round up to 20 units. That would be safe enough to use my idea. Take $1000 divide by 20. Each chase would be to win $50. $50 would be your unit size. The data shows you average 42 chase wins a year. Let's say 40. That is $2000 pure profit. A return on investment of 200%.
The proposed way of doing this is not as flexable or practical, nor is it as profitable in terms of investment return. Somewhere "the hat" found gold, but I say it is in bets "c" and"d". Everywhere else--not so much.
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Quote Originally Posted by collectNOW:
Your reasoning for starting at game C doesn't make any sense because if you skipped games A and B last year,you missed out on approx. 650 wins,and games A and B alone hit at an 84.3% clip. Check out jeffs stats in the "systems and strategies" forum (post #1) titled GREATEST SYSTEM EVER results for the last 5 years. Why is everyone like you on here trying to reinvent the wheel? Just go with whatever has been working
Who cares about what you miss out on? What you miss out on in games A and B are bets that are barely if at all profitable compared to the expected odds. What I have extrapolated is actually an edge.
If you were to just flat bet bets "c" and "d" ONLY--no chasing--your record would be 521-271 (65.78%)
60% is break even for -150 odds
Think about this. Chasing bets "c" and "d" only costs you 5.25 units. Let's round up to 6 units. Let's give us enough cushion to cover 3 chase losses in a row. That would be 18 units. We will round up to 20 units. That would be safe enough to use my idea. Take $1000 divide by 20. Each chase would be to win $50. $50 would be your unit size. The data shows you average 42 chase wins a year. Let's say 40. That is $2000 pure profit. A return on investment of 200%.
The proposed way of doing this is not as flexable or practical, nor is it as profitable in terms of investment return. Somewhere "the hat" found gold, but I say it is in bets "c" and"d". Everywhere else--not so much.
Who cares about what you miss out on? What you miss out on in games A and B are bets that are barely if at all profitable compared to the expected odds. What I have extrapolated is actually an edge.
If you were to just flat bet bets "c" and "d" ONLY--no chasing--your record would be 521-271 (65.78%)
60% is break even for -150 odds
Think about this. Chasing bets "c" and "d" only costs you 5.25 units. Let's round up to 6 units. Let's give us enough cushion to cover 3 chase losses in a row. That would be 18 units. We will round up to 20 units. That would be safe enough to use my idea. Take $1000 divide by 20. Each chase would be to win $50. $50 would be your unit size. The data shows you average 42 chase wins a year. Let's say 40. That is $2000 pure profit. A return on investment of 200%.
The proposed way of doing this is not as flexable or practical, nor is it as profitable in terms of investment return. Somewhere "the hat" found gold, but I say it is in bets "c" and"d". Everywhere else--not so much.
Also keep in mind with my idea you can easily readjust your unit size as you profit using the compound interest formula and you can easily play multiple chases at once.
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Quote Originally Posted by Columboknows:
Who cares about what you miss out on? What you miss out on in games A and B are bets that are barely if at all profitable compared to the expected odds. What I have extrapolated is actually an edge.
If you were to just flat bet bets "c" and "d" ONLY--no chasing--your record would be 521-271 (65.78%)
60% is break even for -150 odds
Think about this. Chasing bets "c" and "d" only costs you 5.25 units. Let's round up to 6 units. Let's give us enough cushion to cover 3 chase losses in a row. That would be 18 units. We will round up to 20 units. That would be safe enough to use my idea. Take $1000 divide by 20. Each chase would be to win $50. $50 would be your unit size. The data shows you average 42 chase wins a year. Let's say 40. That is $2000 pure profit. A return on investment of 200%.
The proposed way of doing this is not as flexable or practical, nor is it as profitable in terms of investment return. Somewhere "the hat" found gold, but I say it is in bets "c" and"d". Everywhere else--not so much.
Also keep in mind with my idea you can easily readjust your unit size as you profit using the compound interest formula and you can easily play multiple chases at once.
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