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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2007 - 9:57 PM ET #26

    Morales has never been stopped by anyone not named Pacquiao and Diaz is not a banger.  Be careful with the KO prop.
     
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    Morales has never been stopped by anyone not named Pacquiao and Diaz is not a banger.  Be careful with the KO prop.
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2007 - 10:17 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    Morales has never been stopped by anyone not named Pacquiao and Diaz is not a banger.  Be careful with the KO prop.
     
    I agree. The interveiws ive been reading seems Morales is looking past Diaz getting no respect from EM
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    Morales has never been stopped by anyone not named Pacquiao and Diaz is not a banger.  Be careful with the KO prop.
     
    I agree. The interveiws ive been reading seems Morales is looking past Diaz getting no respect from EM
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2007 - 11:04 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:

    alwayswin, let me ask you something. have you watched diaz' last fight against santa cruz?

     

    Hey Brian,

    thanks for all your analysis and wnated to ask you a question.

    I saw where you wrote u think Diaz is worthy of a BIG PLAY.... is he worthy enough to go about 4k to win by ko +320?  so would be like 4 k to win 12k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:

    alwayswin, let me ask you something. have you watched diaz' last fight against santa cruz?

     

    Hey Brian,

    thanks for all your analysis and wnated to ask you a question.

    I saw where you wrote u think Diaz is worthy of a BIG PLAY.... is he worthy enough to go about 4k to win by ko +320?  so would be like 4 k to win 12k.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2007 - 11:16 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:


    i'm officially squashing the beef with perricm and Fullbrights. obviously i'll still disagree on picks at times and even categories of bets (parlays for fights on different days/times, bets on smaller fights with poorer information, most round props), but i won't hold my opinions against you guys.



    I don't ever mind anyone disagreeing with my picks, feel free to continue.  You were just saying stuff that had no factual base.  I just think it's funny how you went on for a week all do to the fact that you were initially clueless that Forrest was ever at + odds and came in guns a blazing in that thread.

    Good luck on Diaz.  Think I may take him for a bit inside the distance.  I saw where you mentioned the Santa Cruz fight and while that may be a good fight to look at in terms Diaz's heavy hands Santa Cruz had a semi history of basically just giving out late and folding.  He did against Trejo and semi did it against Cherry, but hung on for the win.

    Diaz can be outboxed and while Morales could win a few of the early rounds I have a hard time seeing how he can hang in there with the larger and more rugged Diaz.  Heck, like I said above even "Hug Me" Raheem was able to push Morales around physically at 135 when they fought.  I have a feeling there will come a point in this fight where Morales's corner may have him on a short string and pull the plug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:


    i'm officially squashing the beef with perricm and Fullbrights. obviously i'll still disagree on picks at times and even categories of bets (parlays for fights on different days/times, bets on smaller fights with poorer information, most round props), but i won't hold my opinions against you guys.



    I don't ever mind anyone disagreeing with my picks, feel free to continue.  You were just saying stuff that had no factual base.  I just think it's funny how you went on for a week all do to the fact that you were initially clueless that Forrest was ever at + odds and came in guns a blazing in that thread.

    Good luck on Diaz.  Think I may take him for a bit inside the distance.  I saw where you mentioned the Santa Cruz fight and while that may be a good fight to look at in terms Diaz's heavy hands Santa Cruz had a semi history of basically just giving out late and folding.  He did against Trejo and semi did it against Cherry, but hung on for the win.

    Diaz can be outboxed and while Morales could win a few of the early rounds I have a hard time seeing how he can hang in there with the larger and more rugged Diaz.  Heck, like I said above even "Hug Me" Raheem was able to push Morales around physically at 135 when they fought.  I have a feeling there will come a point in this fight where Morales's corner may have him on a short string and pull the plug.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2007 - 11:17 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless101:

     

    Hey Brian,

    thanks for all your analysis and wnated to ask you a question.

    I saw where you wrote u think Diaz is worthy of a BIG PLAY.... is he worthy enough to go about 4k to win by ko +320?  so would be like 4 k to win 12k.



    It's going to be tough getting that kind of money down on a prop bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless101:

     

    Hey Brian,

    thanks for all your analysis and wnated to ask you a question.

    I saw where you wrote u think Diaz is worthy of a BIG PLAY.... is he worthy enough to go about 4k to win by ko +320?  so would be like 4 k to win 12k.



    It's going to be tough getting that kind of money down on a prop bet.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 3, 2007 - 11:43 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:

    you try to make peace with a guy and he goes and mouths off.

    forrest "opening" as a dog on 5dimes really doesn't mean he was ever a dog on the internet proper. 5dimes limits are a joke so even though you got a few bucks in on it 99.99% of the online betting world never saw forrest as a dog. i guess you live in your own little small stakes world where 5dimes paltry limits don't matter.

    diaz does not have "heavy hands" but they will certainly look that way against the ghost of morales. he without question has the softest body in the game today and he's only fighting for the money right now. he'll duck out early again i'm sure. like i said, how can a corpse go 12 rounds?


    Lol, all I was doing was telling the truth, he was at + odds and I just think it's funny how all this started; wasn't mouthing off by any means.  I don't claim to be a high limits player, never have, if you have read any of my documented plays for the past I clearly state that all my units are $100 and my max play is 5 units.

    I would say that Diaz has "heavy hands" for 135 lbs, he is not a pure puncher, but that is different then having heavy hands.  So is this a maximum confidence play like the Harris-Lazcano under for you?  I hope if it doesn't come through this time you don't take another hiatus away from the board, I like your views.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:

    you try to make peace with a guy and he goes and mouths off.

    forrest "opening" as a dog on 5dimes really doesn't mean he was ever a dog on the internet proper. 5dimes limits are a joke so even though you got a few bucks in on it 99.99% of the online betting world never saw forrest as a dog. i guess you live in your own little small stakes world where 5dimes paltry limits don't matter.

    diaz does not have "heavy hands" but they will certainly look that way against the ghost of morales. he without question has the softest body in the game today and he's only fighting for the money right now. he'll duck out early again i'm sure. like i said, how can a corpse go 12 rounds?


    Lol, all I was doing was telling the truth, he was at + odds and I just think it's funny how all this started; wasn't mouthing off by any means.  I don't claim to be a high limits player, never have, if you have read any of my documented plays for the past I clearly state that all my units are $100 and my max play is 5 units.

    I would say that Diaz has "heavy hands" for 135 lbs, he is not a pure puncher, but that is different then having heavy hands.  So is this a maximum confidence play like the Harris-Lazcano under for you?  I hope if it doesn't come through this time you don't take another hiatus away from the board, I like your views.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 12:39 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:

    alwayswin, let me ask you something. have you watched diaz' last fight against santa cruz?

    Yes, I did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianedco:

    alwayswin, let me ask you something. have you watched diaz' last fight against santa cruz?

    Yes, I did.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 11:35 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    My math says 3-1 on both will get you a 1.5 return on both.  Risk 200 (at a unit each), win 300.  No?


    But you lose a unit on one of those bets.  So it's risk 200 to get 200.  Moot point now, as Diaz KO prop has gone down to 2-1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    My math says 3-1 on both will get you a 1.5 return on both.  Risk 200 (at a unit each), win 300.  No?


    But you lose a unit on one of those bets.  So it's risk 200 to get 200.  Moot point now, as Diaz KO prop has gone down to 2-1.
     
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    Hey Guys,

     

    I probably won't be posting here too much anymore since the Covers team has imposed some censorship on me (avatar) and threatened permanent banning. In the grand theme of things it is not a big deal, but I don’t like censorship and won’t stand for being threatened! Anyway, I will post my plays for this week and hopefully we can all cash in one last time!

     

    Diaz and Morales battle at 135 for Morales’s fourth world title! We all know what Morales is about at this stage of his career so I won’t go into too much detail about him. Diaz is a tough guy who is best known for his come from behind win against Cruz. So how does this fight play out?

     

    Morales looked horrible against Pac Man and some say it was the weight, while others say he is just plain shot. I tend to think it was a combination of the two. Morales has been in a ton of wars, and his body is breaking down. More then anything his legs appear to be gone. That is a clear-cut sign of a tired, old fighter. The two things I cannot get out of my mind about Morales are they way his legs appeared to be stuck in the mud, and the fact that he quit!

     

    I have always had a very hard time backing a fighter who has quit in his previous fights. It is very difficult to come back mentally after you have quit. When the going gets tough, fighters who have quit in the past tend to quit again. I know it sounds strange speaking of quitting and Morales in the same breath, but this is where we are at in his career.

     

    I just cannot bring myself to take Morales at this point in his career.  Backing Diaz has more to do with Morales then Diaz himself. He is a tough guy with limited skills, but I am banking on his Southpaw stance and constant pressure to break Morales down (please throw some body shots.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Diaz +125

     

    In other action (free TV by the way) we have the rematch with Marquez and Vasquez. Both fighters have not fought since their action packed brawl a few months back, and rumors are flying around that Vasquez rushed into the rematch without properly healing his nose. I took Marquez in the first fight and I think this is another great spot for him in the rematch.

     

    Vasquez is a tough guy, but he gets hit a lot! He has been busted up and dropped in many of his fights and Marquez was able to do it in their first bout. I really cannot see any reason that Marquez won’t be able to do much of the same as the first fight.

     

    The other major factor that leans me to the Marquez side is the reality that Vasquez quit on the stool! Now is Vasquez still a tough guy? I would suggest he is, but he has quit in him and in a brawl that little bit of quit may be the difference in the fight. Also, we have no idea what happens if Marquez cracks that nose again. I have a feeling Vasquez will quit if he is seriously hit on his nose and feels that pain again. I like Marquez by KNOCKOUT if you can find it, if not an under play might be an option (depending on what your book is offering.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Marquez -220

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    Hey Guys,

     

    I probably won't be posting here too much anymore since the Covers team has imposed some censorship on me (avatar) and threatened permanent banning. In the grand theme of things it is not a big deal, but I don’t like censorship and won’t stand for being threatened! Anyway, I will post my plays for this week and hopefully we can all cash in one last time!

     

    Diaz and Morales battle at 135 for Morales’s fourth world title! We all know what Morales is about at this stage of his career so I won’t go into too much detail about him. Diaz is a tough guy who is best known for his come from behind win against Cruz. So how does this fight play out?

     

    Morales looked horrible against Pac Man and some say it was the weight, while others say he is just plain shot. I tend to think it was a combination of the two. Morales has been in a ton of wars, and his body is breaking down. More then anything his legs appear to be gone. That is a clear-cut sign of a tired, old fighter. The two things I cannot get out of my mind about Morales are they way his legs appeared to be stuck in the mud, and the fact that he quit!

     

    I have always had a very hard time backing a fighter who has quit in his previous fights. It is very difficult to come back mentally after you have quit. When the going gets tough, fighters who have quit in the past tend to quit again. I know it sounds strange speaking of quitting and Morales in the same breath, but this is where we are at in his career.

     

    I just cannot bring myself to take Morales at this point in his career.  Backing Diaz has more to do with Morales then Diaz himself. He is a tough guy with limited skills, but I am banking on his Southpaw stance and constant pressure to break Morales down (please throw some body shots.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Diaz +125

     

    In other action (free TV by the way) we have the rematch with Marquez and Vasquez. Both fighters have not fought since their action packed brawl a few months back, and rumors are flying around that Vasquez rushed into the rematch without properly healing his nose. I took Marquez in the first fight and I think this is another great spot for him in the rematch.

     

    Vasquez is a tough guy, but he gets hit a lot! He has been busted up and dropped in many of his fights and Marquez was able to do it in their first bout. I really cannot see any reason that Marquez won’t be able to do much of the same as the first fight.

     

    The other major factor that leans me to the Marquez side is the reality that Vasquez quit on the stool! Now is Vasquez still a tough guy? I would suggest he is, but he has quit in him and in a brawl that little bit of quit may be the difference in the fight. Also, we have no idea what happens if Marquez cracks that nose again. I have a feeling Vasquez will quit if he is seriously hit on his nose and feels that pain again. I like Marquez by KNOCKOUT if you can find it, if not an under play might be an option (depending on what your book is offering.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Marquez -220

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 12:50 PM ET #35

    Boxeo that sucks Homey i never liked the fat dude picture u had up but fuck it u do u.Good luck Hope u comeback
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    Boxeo that sucks Homey i never liked the fat dude picture u had up but fuck it u do u.Good luck Hope u comeback
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 12:55 PM ET #36

    Who hits Harder Raheem or Diaz? I think Raheem if he sat down on his shots but i think Diaz is stonger and more Rugged.
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    Who hits Harder Raheem or Diaz? I think Raheem if he sat down on his shots but i think Diaz is stonger and more Rugged.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 12:56 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

    Hey Guys,

     

    I probably won't be posting here too much anymore since the Covers team has imposed some censorship on me (avatar) and threatened permanent banning. In the grand theme of things it is not a big deal, but I don’t like censorship and won’t stand for being threatened! Anyway, I will post my plays for this week and hopefully we can all cash in one last time!

     

    Diaz and Morales battle at 135 for Morales’s fourth world title! We all know what Morales is about at this stage of his career so I won’t go into too much detail about him. Diaz is a tough guy who is best known for his come from behind win against Cruz. So how does this fight play out?

     

    Morales looked horrible against Pac Man and some say it was the weight, while others say he is just plain shot. I tend to think it was a combination of the two. Morales has been in a ton of wars, and his body is breaking down. More then anything his legs appear to be gone. That is a clear-cut sign of a tired, old fighter. The two things I cannot get out of my mind about Morales are they way his legs appeared to be stuck in the mud, and the fact that he quit!

     

    I have always had a very hard time backing a fighter who has quit in his previous fights. It is very difficult to come back mentally after you have quit. When the going gets tough, fighters who have quit in the past tend to quit again. I know it sounds strange speaking of quitting and Morales in the same breath, but this is where we are at in his career.

     

    I just cannot bring myself to take Morales at this point in his career.  Backing Diaz has more to do with Morales then Diaz himself. He is a tough guy with limited skills, but I am banking on his Southpaw stance and constant pressure to break Morales down (please throw some body shots.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Diaz +125

     

    In other action (free TV by the way) we have the rematch with Marquez and Vasquez. Both fighters have not fought since their action packed brawl a few months back, and rumors are flying around that Vasquez rushed into the rematch without properly healing his nose. I took Marquez in the first fight and I think this is another great spot for him in the rematch.

     

    Vasquez is a tough guy, but he gets hit a lot! He has been busted up and dropped in many of his fights and Marquez was able to do it in their first bout. I really cannot see any reason that Marquez won’t be able to do much of the same as the first fight.

     

    The other major factor that leans me to the Marquez side is the reality that Vasquez quit on the stool! Now is Vasquez still a tough guy? I would suggest he is, but he has quit in him and in a brawl that little bit of quit may be the difference in the fight. Also, we have no idea what happens if Marquez cracks that nose again. I have a feeling Vasquez will quit if he is seriously hit on his nose and feels that pain again. I like Marquez by KNOCKOUT if you can find it, if not an under play might be an option (depending on what your book is offering.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Marquez -220

    Boxeo how confident are you in these plays and which one is the stronger play? Thanks for everything and hope you stay here at covers,you are the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

    Hey Guys,

     

    I probably won't be posting here too much anymore since the Covers team has imposed some censorship on me (avatar) and threatened permanent banning. In the grand theme of things it is not a big deal, but I don’t like censorship and won’t stand for being threatened! Anyway, I will post my plays for this week and hopefully we can all cash in one last time!

     

    Diaz and Morales battle at 135 for Morales’s fourth world title! We all know what Morales is about at this stage of his career so I won’t go into too much detail about him. Diaz is a tough guy who is best known for his come from behind win against Cruz. So how does this fight play out?

     

    Morales looked horrible against Pac Man and some say it was the weight, while others say he is just plain shot. I tend to think it was a combination of the two. Morales has been in a ton of wars, and his body is breaking down. More then anything his legs appear to be gone. That is a clear-cut sign of a tired, old fighter. The two things I cannot get out of my mind about Morales are they way his legs appeared to be stuck in the mud, and the fact that he quit!

     

    I have always had a very hard time backing a fighter who has quit in his previous fights. It is very difficult to come back mentally after you have quit. When the going gets tough, fighters who have quit in the past tend to quit again. I know it sounds strange speaking of quitting and Morales in the same breath, but this is where we are at in his career.

     

    I just cannot bring myself to take Morales at this point in his career.  Backing Diaz has more to do with Morales then Diaz himself. He is a tough guy with limited skills, but I am banking on his Southpaw stance and constant pressure to break Morales down (please throw some body shots.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Diaz +125

     

    In other action (free TV by the way) we have the rematch with Marquez and Vasquez. Both fighters have not fought since their action packed brawl a few months back, and rumors are flying around that Vasquez rushed into the rematch without properly healing his nose. I took Marquez in the first fight and I think this is another great spot for him in the rematch.

     

    Vasquez is a tough guy, but he gets hit a lot! He has been busted up and dropped in many of his fights and Marquez was able to do it in their first bout. I really cannot see any reason that Marquez won’t be able to do much of the same as the first fight.

     

    The other major factor that leans me to the Marquez side is the reality that Vasquez quit on the stool! Now is Vasquez still a tough guy? I would suggest he is, but he has quit in him and in a brawl that little bit of quit may be the difference in the fight. Also, we have no idea what happens if Marquez cracks that nose again. I have a feeling Vasquez will quit if he is seriously hit on his nose and feels that pain again. I like Marquez by KNOCKOUT if you can find it, if not an under play might be an option (depending on what your book is offering.)

     

    Boxeo Bets: Marquez -220

    Boxeo how confident are you in these plays and which one is the stronger play? Thanks for everything and hope you stay here at covers,you are the best!

     
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    Boxeo Quote:

    I just cannot bring myself to take Morales at this point in his career.  Backing Diaz has more to do with Morales then Diaz himself. He is a tough guy with limited skills, but I am banking on his Southpaw stance and constant pressure to break Morales down (please throw some body shots.)

      I couldnt agree more + Diaz is Home

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    Boxeo Quote:

    I just cannot bring myself to take Morales at this point in his career.  Backing Diaz has more to do with Morales then Diaz himself. He is a tough guy with limited skills, but I am banking on his Southpaw stance and constant pressure to break Morales down (please throw some body shots.)

      I couldnt agree more + Diaz is Home

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

    Boxeo how confident are you in these plays and which one is the stronger play? Thanks for everything and hope you stay here at covers,you are the best!

     

    Thanks for the props! I really like Marquez in this fight! I think it will be exciting for as long as it lasts, but too many questions surrounding Vasquez for me to jump to the other side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

    Boxeo how confident are you in these plays and which one is the stronger play? Thanks for everything and hope you stay here at covers,you are the best!

     

    Thanks for the props! I really like Marquez in this fight! I think it will be exciting for as long as it lasts, but too many questions surrounding Vasquez for me to jump to the other side.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 1:09 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     

    Thanks for the props! I really like Marquez in this fight! I think it will be exciting for as long as it lasts, but too many questions surrounding Vasquez for me to jump to the other side.

     

    and what about the diaz play...how confident are you there? by the way i think your such a good handicapper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     

    Thanks for the props! I really like Marquez in this fight! I think it will be exciting for as long as it lasts, but too many questions surrounding Vasquez for me to jump to the other side.

     

    and what about the diaz play...how confident are you there? by the way i think your such a good handicapper!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHING-IT:

    Boxeo that sucks Homey i never liked the fat dude picture u had up but fuck it u do u.Good luck Hope u comeback

     

    Yeah, it just bugs me because that photo was distributed by ALL of the major news corps. I did not grab it off some obscure site. What would have been hilarious if it was a picture of myself!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUSHING-IT:

    Boxeo that sucks Homey i never liked the fat dude picture u had up but fuck it u do u.Good luck Hope u comeback

     

    Yeah, it just bugs me because that photo was distributed by ALL of the major news corps. I did not grab it off some obscure site. What would have been hilarious if it was a picture of myself!!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

     

    and what about the diaz play...how confident are you there? by the way i think your such a good handicapper!

    I think Marquez is much more talented then Diaz, but we all wonder how much Morales has left in the tank. I am taking Marquez because of his talent, and questions around Vasquez. I am only taking Diaz because of the questions regarding Morales!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

     

    and what about the diaz play...how confident are you there? by the way i think your such a good handicapper!

    I think Marquez is much more talented then Diaz, but we all wonder how much Morales has left in the tank. I am taking Marquez because of his talent, and questions around Vasquez. I am only taking Diaz because of the questions regarding Morales!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 1:15 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

    I think Marquez is much more talented then Diaz, but we all wonder how much Morales has left in the tank. I am taking Marquez because of his talent, and questions around Vasquez. I am only taking Diaz because of the questions regarding Morales!

     

    Ok i hear what your saying....is either diaz ml   or marquez by ko worthy of a big play? or should I bet small?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

    I think Marquez is much more talented then Diaz, but we all wonder how much Morales has left in the tank. I am taking Marquez because of his talent, and questions around Vasquez. I am only taking Diaz because of the questions regarding Morales!

     

    Ok i hear what your saying....is either diaz ml   or marquez by ko worthy of a big play? or should I bet small?

     
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    I don't know exactly what happened but if they threatened you with a ban for a first "offense" that is pretty sad.  I didn't like the picture either but all it was was a fat guy...not obscene, not sexual (at least I hope not!).  Don't let that stop your contribution here though.  I appreciate your posts although we are on opposite sides at times.
     
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    I don't know exactly what happened but if they threatened you with a ban for a first "offense" that is pretty sad.  I didn't like the picture either but all it was was a fat guy...not obscene, not sexual (at least I hope not!).  Don't let that stop your contribution here though.  I appreciate your posts although we are on opposite sides at times.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

     

    Ok i hear what your saying....is either diaz ml   or marquez by ko worthy of a big play? or should I bet small?

     

    I like Marquez by knockout. I don’t how your bankroll situation is, so I cannot say how much you should bet. But I am confident in a Marquez win (I think he will stop him.) If you have any doubts that Marquez can take him out, just take him straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

     

    Ok i hear what your saying....is either diaz ml   or marquez by ko worthy of a big play? or should I bet small?

     

    I like Marquez by knockout. I don’t how your bankroll situation is, so I cannot say how much you should bet. But I am confident in a Marquez win (I think he will stop him.) If you have any doubts that Marquez can take him out, just take him straight.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     

    I like Marquez by knockout. I don’t how your bankroll situation is, so I cannot say how much you should bet. But I am confident in a Marquez win (I think he will stop him.) If you have any doubts that Marquez can take him out, just take him straight.

     

    thanks boxeo just 1 last questionn can u give a unit ranking for diaz ml  and marquez by ko? or on a scale of 1-10 10 being most sure....how sure you are each will win?....want to see exactly how sure you are here.Once again you are the greatest and covers should even pay you for your work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     

    I like Marquez by knockout. I don’t how your bankroll situation is, so I cannot say how much you should bet. But I am confident in a Marquez win (I think he will stop him.) If you have any doubts that Marquez can take him out, just take him straight.

     

    thanks boxeo just 1 last questionn can u give a unit ranking for diaz ml  and marquez by ko? or on a scale of 1-10 10 being most sure....how sure you are each will win?....want to see exactly how sure you are here.Once again you are the greatest and covers should even pay you for your work!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    I don't know exactly what happened but if they threatened you with a ban for a first "offense" that is pretty sad.  I didn't like the picture either but all it was was a fat guy...not obscene, not sexual (at least I hope not!).  Don't let that stop your contribution here though.  I appreciate your posts although we are on opposite sides at times.
     

     

    Thanks Always! It was pretty sad about the whole deal. If I jump ship, I will let you guys know where I am at and maybe you can contribute your excellent analysis with me over there too.  That invite goes for the entire covers boxing team. You guys are some of the better cappers I have had the pleasure of speaking with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayswin:

    I don't know exactly what happened but if they threatened you with a ban for a first "offense" that is pretty sad.  I didn't like the picture either but all it was was a fat guy...not obscene, not sexual (at least I hope not!).  Don't let that stop your contribution here though.  I appreciate your posts although we are on opposite sides at times.
     

     

    Thanks Always! It was pretty sad about the whole deal. If I jump ship, I will let you guys know where I am at and maybe you can contribute your excellent analysis with me over there too.  That invite goes for the entire covers boxing team. You guys are some of the better cappers I have had the pleasure of speaking with!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

     

    thanks boxeo just 1 last questionn can u give a unit ranking for diaz ml  and marquez by ko? or on a scale of 1-10 10 being most sure....how sure you are each will win?....want to see exactly how sure you are here.Once again you are the greatest and covers should even pay you for your work!

     

    I am more confident in Marquez then Diaz! However, I still think some type of play should be put on Diaz. If Morales is shot, Diaz will win this fight!  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relentless1001:

     

    thanks boxeo just 1 last questionn can u give a unit ranking for diaz ml  and marquez by ko? or on a scale of 1-10 10 being most sure....how sure you are each will win?....want to see exactly how sure you are here.Once again you are the greatest and covers should even pay you for your work!

     

    I am more confident in Marquez then Diaz! However, I still think some type of play should be put on Diaz. If Morales is shot, Diaz will win this fight!  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 4, 2007 - 1:33 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     

    I am more confident in Marquez then Diaz! However, I still think some type of play should be put on Diaz. If Morales is shot, Diaz will win this fight!  

     

    yes i understand that but what about on a scale of 1-10   confidence on each play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOXEO:

     

    I am more confident in Marquez then Diaz! However, I still think some type of play should be put on Diaz. If Morales is shot, Diaz will win this fight!  

     

    yes i understand that but what about on a scale of 1-10   confidence on each play?

     
     
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    thanks boxeo you are the man!
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    thanks boxeo you are the man!
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