Kelly Criterion Method Since 1/13/2012: 61% or 14-9 Total: +237.42
Week 9 Inputs Starting bankroll: 500.00 Home, Favorite, Away (HFA) 56.4% or 42 Home, Dog, Away (HDA) 57.4% or53 Road, Fav, Away (RFA) 59.5% or 75 Road, Dog, Away (RDA) 60.2% or 82 Home, Fav, Towards (HFT) 52.8% or 4 Home, Dog, Towards (HDT) 53.9% or 16 Road, Fav, Towards (RFT) 54.5%% or 22 Road, Dog, Towards RDT) 55.5% or 33
Note, I left the starting bankroll input at 500.00 for week 9. I'm going to wait for a full week to change this input, so all inputs will be refreshed at the start of week 10.
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Kelly Criterion Method Since 1/13/2012: 61% or 14-9 Total: +237.42
Week 9 Inputs Starting bankroll: 500.00 Home, Favorite, Away (HFA) 56.4% or 42 Home, Dog, Away (HDA) 57.4% or53 Road, Fav, Away (RFA) 59.5% or 75 Road, Dog, Away (RDA) 60.2% or 82 Home, Fav, Towards (HFT) 52.8% or 4 Home, Dog, Towards (HDT) 53.9% or 16 Road, Fav, Towards (RFT) 54.5%% or 22 Road, Dog, Towards RDT) 55.5% or 33
Note, I left the starting bankroll input at 500.00 for week 9. I'm going to wait for a full week to change this input, so all inputs will be refreshed at the start of week 10.
beaver can you explain how Louisville is a play. Based on what I have read you guys are using betonline openers. Louisville opened at +4.5 and currently that is where the line is at the majority of the offshores and a few sprinkled +4.
Trying to learn here thanks for your reply or anyone elses.
jr
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beaver can you explain how Louisville is a play. Based on what I have read you guys are using betonline openers. Louisville opened at +4.5 and currently that is where the line is at the majority of the offshores and a few sprinkled +4.
Trying to learn here thanks for your reply or anyone elses.
beaver can you explain how Louisville is a play. Based on what I have read you guys are using betonline openers. Louisville opened at +4.5 and currently that is where the line is at the majority of the offshores and a few sprinkled +4.
Trying to learn here thanks for your reply or anyone elses.
jr
Using Kenpom database..search for beaver and it will explain in past posts.
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Quote Originally Posted by jrivers:
beaver can you explain how Louisville is a play. Based on what I have read you guys are using betonline openers. Louisville opened at +4.5 and currently that is where the line is at the majority of the offshores and a few sprinkled +4.
Trying to learn here thanks for your reply or anyone elses.
jr
Using Kenpom database..search for beaver and it will explain in past posts.
Louisville is a play because there is a large enough difference between what BetOnline opened at and what Kenpom has. Kenpom has Louisville at +7 and BetOnline had them open at +4 so the 3 pt difference qualifies as a play.
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Louisville is a play because there is a large enough difference between what BetOnline opened at and what Kenpom has. Kenpom has Louisville at +7 and BetOnline had them open at +4 so the 3 pt difference qualifies as a play.
Louisville is a play because there is a large enough difference between what BetOnline opened at and what Kenpom has. Kenpom has Louisville at +7 and BetOnline had them open at +4 so the 3 pt difference qualifies as a play.
I've tried to understand these threads for some time now, but I really need some help. If you are using Kenpom as a source of information, their prediction that Marquette will beat Louisville by 7 points would make Marquette -4.5 the play. Why is Louisville the play?
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Quote Originally Posted by flyerlax06:
Louisville is a play because there is a large enough difference between what BetOnline opened at and what Kenpom has. Kenpom has Louisville at +7 and BetOnline had them open at +4 so the 3 pt difference qualifies as a play.
I've tried to understand these threads for some time now, but I really need some help. If you are using Kenpom as a source of information, their prediction that Marquette will beat Louisville by 7 points would make Marquette -4.5 the play. Why is Louisville the play?
I've tried to understand these threads for some time now, but I really need some help. If you are using Kenpom as a source of information, their prediction that Marquette will beat Louisville by 7 points would make Marquette -4.5 the play. Why is Louisville the play?
This is the part that has alluded me as well. In the majority of stat based systems the advantage is the play.
I've been wondering like you. If Kenpom says Marquette by 7 and they are favored by 4-4.5 and have an advantage of 2.5 to 3 why Louisville?
Also I must be doing something wrong when I used the spreadsheet I posted in week 8 from the blog site. I came up with Marquette by 3. Is there a home team advantage that should be added.
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Quote Originally Posted by duanedibley:
I've tried to understand these threads for some time now, but I really need some help. If you are using Kenpom as a source of information, their prediction that Marquette will beat Louisville by 7 points would make Marquette -4.5 the play. Why is Louisville the play?
This is the part that has alluded me as well. In the majority of stat based systems the advantage is the play.
I've been wondering like you. If Kenpom says Marquette by 7 and they are favored by 4-4.5 and have an advantage of 2.5 to 3 why Louisville?
Also I must be doing something wrong when I used the spreadsheet I posted in week 8 from the blog site. I came up with Marquette by 3. Is there a home team advantage that should be added.
Not to be snarky, BUT.... if you go through all of Beavers threads (basically 8) he explains very clearly how the system works and why. There are answers to every question being asked week after week - you just have to do your own work and find them.
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Not to be snarky, BUT.... if you go through all of Beavers threads (basically 8) he explains very clearly how the system works and why. There are answers to every question being asked week after week - you just have to do your own work and find them.
So what I am asking here is this. Marquette shows winning by 3, are you adding some amount for home court advantage. I am guessing 4 to get Marquette by 7.
I am either using wrong data or the excel sheet I am using is wrong.
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Team 1 Victory % 38.3%
Possessions 69
Team 1 Score 69
Team 2 Score 72
So what I am asking here is this. Marquette shows winning by 3, are you adding some amount for home court advantage. I am guessing 4 to get Marquette by 7.
I am either using wrong data or the excel sheet I am using is wrong.
Louisville is a play because we always side with Vegas. If Vegas has a lower favorite than kenpom we side Vegas and pick the underdog. If Vegas has a larger favorite than kenpom we side with Vegas and take the higher favorite. The theory being that Vegas knows more than kenpom who is all stat based and doesn't take into account recent play, injuries etc. As was said earlier, you can go back and a lot of these answers are in previous threads. These questions were asked and answered over and over.
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Louisville is a play because we always side with Vegas. If Vegas has a lower favorite than kenpom we side Vegas and pick the underdog. If Vegas has a larger favorite than kenpom we side with Vegas and take the higher favorite. The theory being that Vegas knows more than kenpom who is all stat based and doesn't take into account recent play, injuries etc. As was said earlier, you can go back and a lot of these answers are in previous threads. These questions were asked and answered over and over.
BTW, simply just fading KenPom has been hitting at a near 60% clip so far this season. Logically, that seems expected since he needs enough data to precisely predict but usually, he's not this far off.
Knew that was going to happen after he started charging.
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BTW, simply just fading KenPom has been hitting at a near 60% clip so far this season. Logically, that seems expected since he needs enough data to precisely predict but usually, he's not this far off.
Knew that was going to happen after he started charging.
I found a website that presents the opening lines in a table view that can be easily copy / pasted into Excel, even without importing and reformatting.
The opening odds displayed their matched 9 for 9 with the odds being pulled from covers or betonline.com
This, along with the previously mentioned method formula to "extract" the KenPom line should give everyone an easier, less-human way of finding the deltas we are all so interested in.
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I found a website that presents the opening lines in a table view that can be easily copy / pasted into Excel, even without importing and reformatting.
The opening odds displayed their matched 9 for 9 with the odds being pulled from covers or betonline.com
This, along with the previously mentioned method formula to "extract" the KenPom line should give everyone an easier, less-human way of finding the deltas we are all so interested in.
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