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Good Luck pal!  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Ramanujan:

Can someone please offer a coherent counter argument as to why Alabama will win and cover?

This thread will likely be over ten pages by game time but will be worthless aside from the OP without a decent counter....

Not read the rest of the thread up until this post....


Because all of this analysis hinges on Bama not being able to run and forcing the freshman to have to throw. Period. All of the other stuff (revenge etc...) while important is not really just cause, IMHO.


Defense wins championships and although Clemson has a super great D Bama has a better one..


Alabama will win and cover because they will run with success, defend with success and probably come out ahead +1 or +2 on  the TOs.


A great game and obviously my analysis does not hold a candle to Boom's - but I chimed in with my .02 cents.


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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:

 Before I get started on this epic match up. Let's talk about the thread I made a month ago. It was about how upset I was that Ohio st got in over Penn st. I told you all it was the biggest travesty in history of sports. I still stand behind that..... It was. I also remember how most of you said I was crazy and how the committee got the 4 right. Did they? I think you all know the answer. You all know how much I hate and despise ESPN and I think the dilute your minds. They do/ They did. It's similar to the Heisman trophy....that was a ESPN award. That's all it was..... You really think for one second that Watson would have scored only 6 points vs LSU? SMH.....

 I don't like the direction of college football because of these reasons. It has made the average fan dumb.....stupid....and sheep-like. Nobody thinks for themselves anymore. They rely on ESPN and what some guy said at a bar to write the gospel that is called college football. I hate this conference pride nonsense it's another part of the ESPN hype machine that has contributed to the problem.

I watch this forum struggle picking games...why do think that is? You watch ESPN and listen to the " nonsense ".... What do I tell you all the time? USE YOUR EYES..... YOUR EYES! Don't listen to others....It's great to learn from others. But block out the nonsense. I read a thread earlier today where the guy sites the fact that the reason Bama was gonna blow Clemson out was that they struggled earlier in the year..... But yet doesn't point when....shhh.....lean in, this is a secret...shhhh.... so did Bama. Bama gave up 40 + points to Ole Miss and 30 to Arkansas.... but that's like the " secret "... nobody wants to talk about it. Does teams get better? Yes. Do they sleep walk at times? Yes.



Alabama vs Clemson


 Man. You guys ready? This is gonna be great. Now let's get started with this..... Remember when I told you last week that the game between Clemson and Ohio st wasn't about Watson vs Ohio st defense? Remember when I told you game was more about how the Clemson D line would dominate that match up? Well, listen close....I'm about to you the secret/secrets to this game.


Alabama has been very successful defensively this season due to one reason, pass rush. They finally have an elite pass rush under Saban. In most years this has not been the case. Now can anybody tell me why this matters so much??? You don't have to add another hat to the box. For the most part Bama has made it rushing 4 and dropping 7. That is a tremendous benefit.....only one other team in the country can do the same..... Who? Yes, Clemson.... Now here is the little secret about that.... Clemson has the deeper and better overall D line. I know that will shock you, but it's true.

 Alabama has some freak athletes.... they really do. But none better IMO then, Menka Fitzpatrick. That guy really might be the best " athlete " that Saban has ever had.... The guy is a freak among freaks. I really like the pieces overall on this defense. But with that said I think the biggest weakness on this defense is the secondary. They do 2 things when I watch/scout this team. 1) They hold the receivers alot...and get away with it more than most for some reason. 2) Get lost.....Yes, they actually get lost in coverage at times.

Look overall I have said time and time again... .Alabama is the gold standard of college football, they have deserved that. Last year if you read my thread on this game I'm not sure anybody called to the " T " like I did. I heard crazy nonsense talk about how Clemson wouldn't score 14 points in that game..... You can argue either way on how the game played out last year, but I for one, and most of the country felt the better team lost. I felt like Clemson outplayed Alabama in that game and it took a onside kick and a kick return for a TD to win that game. Don't fool yourselves Bama and SEC homers.... Clemson controlled that game and the line of scrimmage.

 This game is more about 1 person.... DeShaun Watson. He will be the best player on the filed Monday night. He will stretch this defense again.... if the Clemson team doesn't make any mistakes like special teams or multiple turnovers.... Clemson will win this game walking away. Clemson will control the line of scrimmage in this game. They will harass Hurts ALL NIGHT LONG. They will, it's what they do. This true freshman has done a good job this year.... not great, but good....

 One of the biggest things about this game NOBODY is talking about is the fact this year Clemson, will come into this game fully funded. Mike Williams and Deon Cain did not play in last years game. This year Mike Williams will dominate the secondary of Alabama.... Deon Cain will hit you deep.... Clemson WR will torch the secondary of the Alabama defense allowing Watson and Gallman to have running lanes.

I'm interested in seeing what the first quarter will look like for Alabama if what happens what I think will happen... I suspect Clemson to score 2 times in the first quarter.... How will Alabama react? This isn't Ole Miss....you won't be able to run wild and get back in it like that.... I also expect Clemson to turn Alabama over in this game... I know most see it the other way. But Alabama will be in uncomfortable situations where they have never been before and will be pressing.

The fact that this line is a Touchdown is Laughable....



Any comments or questions, have at it......  No trolling in this thread



   
Are you sure that's all you have to say Boom?  Well here's my write-up,, Clemson +6,5 but no blow out. No 2 first qtr TD's but Tigers cover and probably win outright 4-7 pts.

  





 
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Party down Boom!    Classic game  
 
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Woo hoo! 
 
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Congrats to Clemson and their fans.  Great game.

 
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There you go Boom... I was right on the money with 4 pt win and I didn't have to write a book. I know you're a homey but how in the world did you cap this game as a blow out. Congrats!!!
 
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Dabo is the new Nick Saban
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Sicsemper:

There you go Boom... I was right on the money with 4 pt win and I didn't have to write a book. I know you're a homey but how in the world did you cap this game as a blow out. Congrats!!!

My 4-7 pt prediction post 112
 
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Congrats Boom thx for making me a lot of cash! You are the best capper on this site and I hope you are here next year.

Clemson Fh lose 3 units
Clemson FG win 7 units
Clemson ML +200 win 6 units
Clemson +10.5 live win 3.2 units 
Clemson ML live +490 win 9.8 units

Biggest win this bowl season For me

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Boom Boom!  Unloaded on Clemson
 
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Congrats my friend!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by hoopsvader:

Dabo is the new Nick Saban

lol. easy their tigher. 
 
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Boom - I read your post and agreed 100%... but to know your team as well as you do and call it dead on was impressive. Fade the clown show ESPN hype and to trust your eyes...well done
 
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Live it up Boom! Your boys got me paid tonight large.
 
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Congrats To Clemson nation...And Myself Clemson +6.5 Over 51.5
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wow wow wow   quel match ,i am bama  fan,mais tout ceux qui pensent que bama est meilleur  que clemson ou ceux  qui  pensent que clemson sont much better than bama are  idiot or stupid,winner are bama fans and tigers fan 3  good teams  best game last 10000000000 games i never seen
 
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BOOM!!

You had a GREAT bowl season. Really missed your input and plays during the regular season. Hope to see you next season.

No matter what anybody says. You are one of the best college football cappers in the WORLD!!!


 
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Mike Williams had 2 epic catches that would be a nice painting on any Clemson fan's wall.I got about 5 messages about Clemson's illegal picks in the EZ.Who cares and what a game! Its was so cool seeing Cabo,Watson, Williams after the game and Boulware talking from the heart.I know we can officially put Clemsoning to rest.Finebaum is crying about Sark.Man,u talking about a do nothing head coach who sucked at Wash and sucked at USC.I don't like Sark just for sueing USC BC he drank on the job??.If u screw up take responsibility for your actions.I would have suspended him after the pep rally.                Clemson went out

There Me got it done.I can remember the day after Auburn beat Oregon I saw a stranger in an Auburn hat pumping gas as I was walking to my car buying a soda in the store.I got in my car drove to exit shipped back around to the guy w the Auburn hat and said to him " You just won the National Title- how do u feel?" He looked at me and then Inhaled a breath and said "It feels Damn Good!," I yelled War Eagle and sped off.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by lulu39:

wow wow wow   quel match ,i am bama  fan,mais tout ceux qui pensent que bama est meilleur  que clemson ou ceux  qui  pensent que clemson sont much better than bama are  idiot or stupid,winner are bama fans and tigers fan 3  good teams  best game last 10000000000 games i never seen
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BOOM ! You are a legend in my eyes because you make capping a mans domain....no b.s. and the truth with a pow!! If if they don't like it...they can continue to lose 

I have not needed your insight as much this yr but I learned a lot from your insight in years past....just continue to do what you and Bookie Assassin do because it is pure truth!!

I made $4K on this game on the side minus my Under bet......which I backed up at the half and got 1/2 back with a second half over. I seriously thought this was going to overtime AT THE HALF because I thought Sark did an amazing job, just as I thought he might.....uptempo Hurts and involve the other key players more such as Scarborough, Ridley and Howard.....but it still was not enough so thank god for  the winning margin bet which was once again, (which I use when Ravens/Steelers play) a coup when you are trying to decide which side to go to.....knew it would be a tight game.....happy to see Watson and the gang get'er done!! 
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Quote Originally Posted by warcameagle56:

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  oupsssssssssss  not  3  but  2  !!!! on peut pas  se reprendre  un coup écrit   !!!!

 
 
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Good work pal. You made the bowl season a whole lot more interesting by coming back. And the thread stay relatively clean so congrats again and hope to see you next year. 

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Alabama ...live and learn. Just couldnt go with Dabo my bad..... Great insights, Congrats to all who took Clemson!
 
 
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Wow! What a game! Everything we asked for and then some.

As a Bama fan, dissappointed in the loss but could not be happier to lose it to such a great opponent. Clemson stuck in there and drove the ball, stuck with the game plan, and ended up with the W. Congrats.

I feel like our lack of the down-field pass really hurt us here more than I anticipated. O-line played a lot better than I expected, but still showed some negative plays and penalties. Defensive backs played better than I expected as well but it just was not enough. Those pick plays are next to impossible to defend close to the goal line. Well drawn up scheme by Dabo and the offense.

Again, Congrats to Clemson.

Alabama will be back
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