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SMU IMO did the right thing. Whoever the players like....take the opposite. Don't let the inmates run the asyluman_light

 
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Quote Originally Posted by CajunWF:

dude nothing is guaranteed, this is sports betting.  

I understand that you made a wager and you are trying to find any reason to justify your side and discredit the other, but if you don't think the information above is relevant, you are a delusional homer who bets only with his emotions.  

Trust me, I know information like this isn't foolproof.  I lost 4k on the Holiday Bowl last year by fading the Gophers because of the gangrape or whatever the hell it was...  Obviously teams don't simply fold because of coaching changes, we've watched enough bowl games to know that.  I still think this information is great.  Did you even watch the interviews with the QB?  They are in lala land 




honestly, I am not trying to rationalize, though it is a concern, considering what happened to Oregon last weekend.    in the end Morris looked out for the best interests of Morris, and I can see how these players feel slighted.  it is gambling.   I would advise those who have not already placed a wager on this game to pass, considering the circumstances...
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Quote Originally Posted by CajunWF:

dude nothing is guaranteed, this is sports betting.  

I understand that you made a wager and you are trying to find any reason to justify your side and discredit the other, but if you don't think the information above is relevant, you are a delusional homer who bets only with his emotions.  

Trust me, I know information like this isn't foolproof.  I lost 4k on the Holiday Bowl last year by fading the Gophers because of the gangrape or whatever the hell it was...  Obviously teams don't simply fold because of coaching changes, we've watched enough bowl games to know that.  I still think this information is great.  Did you even watch the interviews with the QB?  They are in lala land 




and dude, I a not fking SMU homer, and I don't bet with my emotions.    you don't fking know me.  I am 29-19-2 ATS on covers college football posted plays this season.  Can you match that?  I didn't think so...So go ahead and bet your entire god damned bank roll on La Tech.  Cause I don't give a damn...
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good advice.  Best of luck to you, enjoy the game! 
 
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LOL I take that back.  

Did I strike a nerve? Insecure much?  

If there's one thing I ever learned on covers (and in real life) - when people brag their records or their achievements to try and belittle others, those people are POS degenerates.   Go back and re-read your post and take your own advice


 
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LonghornHoosier, very valid counter points. Thats exactly what this thread needed. Thats awesome that you are going to the game, I heard that new MLS stadium is pretty nice!

I wanted to get this information out because I considered it very relevant and think that people should at least know the timeline and situation regarding a coaching change right before the first bowl game in years. By no means does it mean that LA Tech will win or cover, but after considering all the information I personally thought that the value is with La Tech and the points. I love hearing both sides, thats what makes a thread good is when you can hear it from both sides and make your own decision. Only throwing 2 units on this, don't bet the farm! Money management is key.

While it can be considered a quasi home game for SMU, LA Tech is only 2.5 hours away so I think we should see a decent turn out of them since its only a short drive away. There was a little bit of line movement from 5 to 3.5 which is prob expected considering what transpired. After all its still the same players out there on the field so I wouldn't expect the line to shift all the way to the other side. SMU could come out flat or they could come out like nothing happened. I appreciate all the input on the thread and good luck to everyone!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by goodybags:

It has been a whirlwind two weeks for the SMU football program.December 6th: Chad Morris abruptly announces he is leaving SMU to take the HC position at Arkansas. Chad takes almost his entire offensive coaching staff with him. A number of high profile recruits decommit and some also follow him to Arkansas. A huge gut shot to the entire SMU team just two weeks before their first bowl game for every player on the team considering they haven't been in 4 years.December 7th: Associate head coach and running backs coach Jeff Traylor is announced as interim head coach and will lead the team in the Frisco Bowl.The entire team loves coach Traylor and wants him to be the new permanent HC. They signed petitions and held player only meetings about it. They even met with the SMU AD about their wanting Traylor to be their next permanent head coach. They were extremely vocal about this.December 10th:Reports start coming out saying: Sonny Dykes will be the next head coach and the players went ballistic and were extremely vocal about their displeasure with this decision:https://twitter.com/kemonfreeman/status ... 2815896576https://twitter.com/Kayce_Medlock/statu ... 5670300673https://twitter.com/MDC2_/status/940027918620622848https://twitter.com/The_XavierJones/sta ... 6616241152https://twitter.com/demerick_/status/940038744446451713https://twitter.com/__mymy22/status/940028066427834368December 11th: Sonny Dykes is announced as head coach and offers Traylor to still coach the team through the bowl gameDecember 12th: Jeff Traylor announces that he will be leaving SMU to take a position under old HC Morris at his new school Arkansas. You can only imagine what type of impact this had on the SMU players, moral must had been very down.December 14th: While new coach Dykes is on the road making home visits and high school visits trying to salvage any verbal commits that are still left it is announced that Graduate Assistant GJ Kinne will be calling the plays for SMU from the box for the Frisco Bowl. Apparently Kinne has been working with SMU QB Hicks to formulate the gameplan for the bowl game. A graduate assistant calling the plays and making the game plan.MORE IN NEXT POST....

 
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I never say this to most of the people on here. If not careful, you can lose listening to others. I have had a nice year. I was stumped on this game. win, lose or draw nice job bro!

 
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Posted: #34
Looks like LA Tech will have a decent fan turn out this year!

https://www.gvnews.com/national/sports/louisiana-tech-enjoying-home-away-from-home-in-frisco/article_74e981b1-216d-5e14-9799-fc763cbe77fb.html

Tech ticket allotment looks like it is sold out and the pace of ticket sales has surpasses techs last 3 bowl games. Think the proximity to campus is the factor here. Again, doesn't guarantee anything. Just saying they should have decent fan support in the stadium(20K capacity) where they are playing.

Do your research and go with your gut! GLTA
 
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Why is everyone so friggin nasty to each other ?
 
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Classic locker room circling the wagons mentality. The kids will rally with the  ( US AGAINST THE WORLD ) scenario 

Great job with the information and updates goodybags  


 
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Going to be hard with all the offense gone. Ben Hicks is a solid QB and Courtland Sutton is a top WR in the draft. Makes me wonder if they really want to show up for LTech

I like SMU and they can score but that Oregon game left a bad taste in my mouth for teams that will "rally"
 
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Great value with SMU as the line dropped again. GL whatever you decide to do. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

SMU still has its entire Defensive Coaching staff in place...Sure, that was not the strength of the team, and they honestly sucked, but it gives at least the D continuity for one more game...These SMU kids have sucked for so long prior to Morris arrival, and have not been to a bowl since 2012...so do you guys actually think they are going to say, ah fk it, coach morris is gone, they did not hire are favored assistant, so we are just going to throw in the towel, and say let a quasi directional Louisiana school, with incrementally less overall talent walk all over them in the Frisco Bowl, 20 miles from the SMU campus, in front of the SMU fans...I think that is delusion.  granted, as a capper, I agree, one should consider all information, including some of the information posted above in evaluating whether SMU or La Tech would be the best play.   But, from my perspective, I think SMU will show up and TCB and cover tonight...for what its worth... 

SMU lets almost 500 yards per game on them. Who cares about their defensive coaching. They can't stop anyone.
 
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Good Thread and thanks for sharing...

Just looking at the stats when I saw this thread,

SMU is 1-5 ATS the last 6 games......


just saying...

 
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

QUOTE Originally Posted by CajunWF: The line has moved in LA Tech's favor.  What are you going on about?   It started at +5 and it is +3.5 now  Still above a field goal...I am talking a major correction...if you believe what you read on this string, why isn't La Tech favored?     I think SMU will show, that even with the circumstances, it still has some bite...


Books set the line to equal out the betting, not to predict the outcome. Public perception is more important that actual talent. Average bettor just knows SMU scores a lot of points and has never heard of LA Tech. The fact it went down 1.5 points is huge. Either take Tech or just stay away. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by LRM704:

Why is everyone so friggin nasty to each other ?

Not much has changed in the years we've been here LRM 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

so you guys are assuming that the game plan that Morris and his coaches put together for 3 weeks

the bowl was announced on Dec 3rd.  so they at the very least didn't know their opponent prior to that.  even then, they were playing Tulane on Nov 25th.

Morris signed his deal on the 5th and told the team on the 6th.  he was wheels up to Fayetville within 30 min of the team meeting ending along with Mark Smith.  Craddoc (the OC) stuck around i think for 24 hours.  then he was gone.  Morris put the screws to all the offensive coaches to get to Arkansas to start recruiting.

point of all that is, they had a couple days with the full staff (who were negotiation their new deal, so, distracted?), then they had a few days with a skeleton staff left behind that consisted of a WR coach (Stepp) and the RB coach (traylor).  then Dykes was hired on sunday, it was announced publicly on tuesday the 12th. 

point of all that is that there has been little continuity and the new coaching staff has actually been out recruiting b/c of early signing day today. 

 

 
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Thanks for the great read I like to weigh all the points before I make my wager I will be passing on this game now because I really liked SMU.  Good luck and Thanks again.
 
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For what it's worth, Pointwise is 6-0 in bowl season, and they like LT to win straight up.

 
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Most complete write-up I have found for this bowl game, I love StatFox also: https://forums.statfox.com/forum/showthread.php?s=0b0b14abb30244971825c65eeae55a91&threadid=212471
 
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New to covers and haven't seen a post as gold as this thank you goodybags 
 
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Great info. With all that considered, and the fact SMU is 1-4 away from home, I like a LT team coming in on a 2 game win streak. 3 of their loses coming by 1 point and being competitive in every game other that the FAU game, I really like a very valued LT team. The biggest thing to take away from all of the OP's info is that the players were running the practice, thats alarming and that truly depicts the amount of turmoil they are in. Going LT ML with the value. Good luck to all.

 
 
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this is 100% dead on. coach sitting on the sidelines away from everyone. there is zero motivation, zero passion, zero ANYTHING from smu. i can't believe their d looks better than their offense
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