I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I made some nice scores on several of the BCS championships in the past 6 years (in particular, Florida ML over Ohio State) and I'm certainly no SEC hater. But I've seen this Notre Dame team, in particular this defense, live and up close and they are the best defense I've seen go up against an SEC foe in one of these games. I think they keep it close. Good Luck!
I don’t think the question is so much how Bama’s offense will do against Notre Dame’s defense as much as it is how Notre Dame’s offense will do against Bama’s defense.
I think Bama’s offense will score enough to win.I don’t see the same thing happening with Notre Dame’s offense.
Good luck to you as well.
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Quote Originally Posted by soonboomer:
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I made some nice scores on several of the BCS championships in the past 6 years (in particular, Florida ML over Ohio State) and I'm certainly no SEC hater. But I've seen this Notre Dame team, in particular this defense, live and up close and they are the best defense I've seen go up against an SEC foe in one of these games. I think they keep it close. Good Luck!
I don’t think the question is so much how Bama’s offense will do against Notre Dame’s defense as much as it is how Notre Dame’s offense will do against Bama’s defense.
I think Bama’s offense will score enough to win.I don’t see the same thing happening with Notre Dame’s offense.
College football is not a real sport. Find something else to watch guys. It's similar to wwe
Strange then how you spend so much time posting on a board for a non-sport.
It doesn’t matter if they keep the current format or go to a 16 team playoff.You’ll still be making excuses as long as the SEC continues to dominate.However, once they stop dominating suddenly the games will start being legit.
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Quote Originally Posted by Osirus13:
College football is not a real sport. Find something else to watch guys. It's similar to wwe
Strange then how you spend so much time posting on a board for a non-sport.
It doesn’t matter if they keep the current format or go to a 16 team playoff.You’ll still be making excuses as long as the SEC continues to dominate.However, once they stop dominating suddenly the games will start being legit.
Purdue rivalry game and first game back from Ireland
BYU horrid on offense but a top 5 defense Bronco also commented after the game it was the best his team had played all year.
Pttt was in a major letdown spot after crushing the Sooners on the road
Bottom line winning is winning.
So when the bottom half of the SEC struggles against some teams from the Sun Belt they get trashed, but when Notre Dame (the supposed #1 team in the country) beats Purdue, BYU, and Pittsburgh by 3 points at home they get a pass because “winning is winning"?
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Quote Originally Posted by BLOODandTHUNDER:
Purdue rivalry game and first game back from Ireland
BYU horrid on offense but a top 5 defense Bronco also commented after the game it was the best his team had played all year.
Pttt was in a major letdown spot after crushing the Sooners on the road
Bottom line winning is winning.
So when the bottom half of the SEC struggles against some teams from the Sun Belt they get trashed, but when Notre Dame (the supposed #1 team in the country) beats Purdue, BYU, and Pittsburgh by 3 points at home they get a pass because “winning is winning"?
[Quote: Originally Posted by DonkeyPunch6446] Whatever dude, they only get that berth because of the moneythe SEC pays to make sure of this, probably the past 6 years. Half of those championships are tainted imo. College football a lot of times are decided by opinions. Alabama is the only team that straight deserves to play over another one loss team. If it was between UGA and Oregon, i think ducks are more deserving. [/Quote]
They should have at least discussed
KSU - one (road) loss, B12 Champ
Bama- One (home) loss, SEC Champ
Oregon- One Loss
ND- Undefeated
Not SEC champ wins and their in and run it on the ESPN TICKER for 2 weeks!!!!
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[Quote: Originally Posted by DonkeyPunch6446] Whatever dude, they only get that berth because of the moneythe SEC pays to make sure of this, probably the past 6 years. Half of those championships are tainted imo. College football a lot of times are decided by opinions. Alabama is the only team that straight deserves to play over another one loss team. If it was between UGA and Oregon, i think ducks are more deserving. [/Quote]
They should have at least discussed
KSU - one (road) loss, B12 Champ
Bama- One (home) loss, SEC Champ
Oregon- One Loss
ND- Undefeated
Not SEC champ wins and their in and run it on the ESPN TICKER for 2 weeks!!!!
Whatever dude, they only get that berth because of the money the SEC pays to make sure of this, probably the past 6 years. Half of those championships are tainted imo. College football a lot of times are decided by opinions. Alabama is the only team that straight deserves to play over another one loss team. If it was between UGA and Oregon, i think ducks are more deserving.
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Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyPunch6446:
Whatever dude, they only get that berth because of the money the SEC pays to make sure of this, probably the past 6 years. Half of those championships are tainted imo. College football a lot of times are decided by opinions. Alabama is the only team that straight deserves to play over another one loss team. If it was between UGA and Oregon, i think ducks are more deserving.
It cracks me up how some people think a troll is anyone that has an opinion they don’t like.
You post that “the bottom half of the SEC needs to focus on beating the Sun Belt.”
I retort by pointing out Notre Dame beat Purdue, BYU, and Pittsburgh at home by 3 points.
You then claimed those close games were because teams “play their best when ND comes to town, and are not intimated by the Irish.” But of course teams outside of LSU and A&M don’t play their best against Alabama.
So basically your defense is weak teams tend to play well against Notre Dame.Hmm…
You brought up the concept of an SEC All Conference team playing Notre Dame.I was simply stating my opinion that such a team could probably beat some NFL teams.And the only thing dumb is to speak with absolute certainty about something we couldn’t possibly know for sure.
A troll is someone who looks to pick a fight with anyone online. A troll picks a comment that can piss someone off. You are trying to be a belligerent narrow minded SEC apologist (defender in dummied down talk). By definition, this post is written by a troll.
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:
It cracks me up how some people think a troll is anyone that has an opinion they don’t like.
You post that “the bottom half of the SEC needs to focus on beating the Sun Belt.”
I retort by pointing out Notre Dame beat Purdue, BYU, and Pittsburgh at home by 3 points.
You then claimed those close games were because teams “play their best when ND comes to town, and are not intimated by the Irish.” But of course teams outside of LSU and A&M don’t play their best against Alabama.
So basically your defense is weak teams tend to play well against Notre Dame.Hmm…
You brought up the concept of an SEC All Conference team playing Notre Dame.I was simply stating my opinion that such a team could probably beat some NFL teams.And the only thing dumb is to speak with absolute certainty about something we couldn’t possibly know for sure.
A troll is someone who looks to pick a fight with anyone online. A troll picks a comment that can piss someone off. You are trying to be a belligerent narrow minded SEC apologist (defender in dummied down talk). By definition, this post is written by a troll.
Nothing makes me happier than to see the big blue get beat anytime but I just wish SC would have kicked the field goal sothey would have covered. haha That midget that runs the ball for Mich is sure fun to watch you know the ex QB awsome arm just cant hit any recievers he is way better off running or recieving. Gotta love florida tonight happy new year to all. Man that game was great......
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Nothing makes me happier than to see the big blue get beat anytime but I just wish SC would have kicked the field goal sothey would have covered. haha That midget that runs the ball for Mich is sure fun to watch you know the ex QB awsome arm just cant hit any recievers he is way better off running or recieving. Gotta love florida tonight happy new year to all. Man that game was great......
Hopefully we can crown a true national champion in the near future.
Regardless of conference. Fix the game and level the playing fields for all the teams that have a shot.
six team playoff
game 1 Notre Dame vs Kansas state
game 2 Georgia vs Oregon
winner of game 1 would play would Alabama
winner of game 2 would play Florida
Who ever would be the last team standing out of that would truly be a champion
The trophy would mean something.
What the ??? The fact that u got 2 SEC teams in that is mind boggling. Looks like u been brainwashed by the media too. No Stanford?? and Florida with the bye?? nikka please
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Quote Originally Posted by jmitseff:
Hopefully we can crown a true national champion in the near future.
Regardless of conference. Fix the game and level the playing fields for all the teams that have a shot.
six team playoff
game 1 Notre Dame vs Kansas state
game 2 Georgia vs Oregon
winner of game 1 would play would Alabama
winner of game 2 would play Florida
Who ever would be the last team standing out of that would truly be a champion
The trophy would mean something.
What the ??? The fact that u got 2 SEC teams in that is mind boggling. Looks like u been brainwashed by the media too. No Stanford?? and Florida with the bye?? nikka please
What the ??? The fact that u got 2 SEC teams in that is mind boggling. Looks like u been brainwashed by the media too. No Stanford?? and Florida with the bye?? nikka please
i meant 3
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Quote Originally Posted by DonkeyPunch6446:
What the ??? The fact that u got 2 SEC teams in that is mind boggling. Looks like u been brainwashed by the media too. No Stanford?? and Florida with the bye?? nikka please
Already the top echelon SEC teams have failed. LSU and Florida were hyped up by ESPN all season (and pre-season) as "BCS contenders." and I cannot count honestly how many "scenarios" they painted up with Florida "more deserving than Kansas St and Oregon" to play fpr the NCshould #1 ND lose to USC). They actually were oblivious to the fact that the LSU vs Alabama NC of 2012 was a farce and one of the lowest ranked tv audiences ever.
So now I suppose Louisville with all those frshmen and sophomores (only 7 seniors) that beat up on "the BCS contender should ND fail vs USC", uh, we'll we see them ranked preseason higher than Florida ? Not if ESPN pundieteers can have a say ini it.
Seems to most of us that Louisville and Clemson were very beatable teams--a lot of programs couold have their way with them. How on Earth did they embarrass the darlings of the SEC that "if they were'nt in the SEC, they'd probably be undefeated."?.
If ND pulls off the stunner, then we can honestly conclude that the SEC, ESPN and BCS (all connected politically and financially==ESPN the chair of the BCS) have duped us all for too long on in the NON-playoff years, and contributed substantially to the 6 year run of national titles through rankings manipulation, politiking of pollsters and public perceptions, scheduling controls that forbid games outside os geographical boundaires (west of the Miss and north of the Mason - Dixon), Bowl game selecting of certain teams that ESPN (as chair of major bowls that are tied in w/ the the SEC) approved of to play in southern located bowls to maintain the perception of superiority (ie, lowly Big Ten teams with major problems defensively to compete w/ SEC teams--ie, Nebraska).
Fans of football-unsavvy minnion to be duped and ultimately exploited
football players=just pawns in the game ("lil bastrds should just be grateful they have scholarships and just stfu, and enjoy the ride if they play in the SEC--just let us take care of business and orchestrate the rankings and bowl games"
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Already the top echelon SEC teams have failed. LSU and Florida were hyped up by ESPN all season (and pre-season) as "BCS contenders." and I cannot count honestly how many "scenarios" they painted up with Florida "more deserving than Kansas St and Oregon" to play fpr the NCshould #1 ND lose to USC). They actually were oblivious to the fact that the LSU vs Alabama NC of 2012 was a farce and one of the lowest ranked tv audiences ever.
So now I suppose Louisville with all those frshmen and sophomores (only 7 seniors) that beat up on "the BCS contender should ND fail vs USC", uh, we'll we see them ranked preseason higher than Florida ? Not if ESPN pundieteers can have a say ini it.
Seems to most of us that Louisville and Clemson were very beatable teams--a lot of programs couold have their way with them. How on Earth did they embarrass the darlings of the SEC that "if they were'nt in the SEC, they'd probably be undefeated."?.
If ND pulls off the stunner, then we can honestly conclude that the SEC, ESPN and BCS (all connected politically and financially==ESPN the chair of the BCS) have duped us all for too long on in the NON-playoff years, and contributed substantially to the 6 year run of national titles through rankings manipulation, politiking of pollsters and public perceptions, scheduling controls that forbid games outside os geographical boundaires (west of the Miss and north of the Mason - Dixon), Bowl game selecting of certain teams that ESPN (as chair of major bowls that are tied in w/ the the SEC) approved of to play in southern located bowls to maintain the perception of superiority (ie, lowly Big Ten teams with major problems defensively to compete w/ SEC teams--ie, Nebraska).
Fans of football-unsavvy minnion to be duped and ultimately exploited
football players=just pawns in the game ("lil bastrds should just be grateful they have scholarships and just stfu, and enjoy the ride if they play in the SEC--just let us take care of business and orchestrate the rankings and bowl games"
Already the top echelon SEC teams have failed. LSU and Florida were hyped up by ESPN all season (and pre-season) as "BCS contenders." and I cannot count honestly how many "scenarios" they painted up with Florida "more deserving than Kansas St and Oregon" to play fpr the NCshould #1 ND lose to USC). They actually were oblivious to the fact that the LSU vs Alabama NC of 2012 was a farce and one of the lowest ranked tv audiences ever.
So now I suppose Louisville with all those frshmen and sophomores (only 7 seniors) that beat up on "the BCS contender should ND fail vs USC", uh, we'll we see them ranked preseason higher than Florida ? Not if ESPN pundieteers can have a say ini it.
Seems to most of us that Louisville and Clemson were very beatable teams--a lot of programs couold have their way with them. How on Earth did they embarrass the darlings of the SEC that "if they were'nt in the SEC, they'd probably be undefeated."?.
If ND pulls off the stunner, then we can honestly conclude that the SEC, ESPN and BCS (all connected politically and financially==ESPN the chair of the BCS) have duped us all for too long on in the NON-playoff years, and contributed substantially to the 6 year run of national titles through rankings manipulation, politiking of pollsters and public perceptions, scheduling controls that forbid games outside os geographical boundaires (west of the Miss and north of the Mason - Dixon), Bowl game selecting of certain teams that ESPN (as chair of major bowls that are tied in w/ the the SEC) approved of to play in southern located bowls to maintain the perception of superiority (ie, lowly Big Ten teams with major problems defensively to compete w/ SEC teams--ie, Nebraska).
Fans of football-unsavvy minnion to be duped and ultimately exploited
football players=just pawns in the game ("lil bastrds should just be grateful they have scholarships and just stfu, and enjoy the ride if they play in the SEC--just let us take care of business and orchestrate the rankings and bowl games"
How can you say Clemson embarrassed LSU. They led for 0 seconds the entire game. If Les Miles were any kind of a coach, they would have won that game. No excuse for FL. As an SEC homer and Gator alum, I am not going to say they were not up for the game. They were just outplayed by Louisville last night. Im sure if they played again you would take Louisville ML, right??
Everyone talks about SEC should play the PAC 12 and Big 12. If I am not mistaken, the last 5 national championship games included 3 teams from those conferences (OK, Texas, Oregon). One thing in common, they all lost to SEC foes. Until another team beats an SEC school in the NC, how can you not say that they are the best conference. The NFL is littered with first round picks from the SEC.
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
Already the top echelon SEC teams have failed. LSU and Florida were hyped up by ESPN all season (and pre-season) as "BCS contenders." and I cannot count honestly how many "scenarios" they painted up with Florida "more deserving than Kansas St and Oregon" to play fpr the NCshould #1 ND lose to USC). They actually were oblivious to the fact that the LSU vs Alabama NC of 2012 was a farce and one of the lowest ranked tv audiences ever.
So now I suppose Louisville with all those frshmen and sophomores (only 7 seniors) that beat up on "the BCS contender should ND fail vs USC", uh, we'll we see them ranked preseason higher than Florida ? Not if ESPN pundieteers can have a say ini it.
Seems to most of us that Louisville and Clemson were very beatable teams--a lot of programs couold have their way with them. How on Earth did they embarrass the darlings of the SEC that "if they were'nt in the SEC, they'd probably be undefeated."?.
If ND pulls off the stunner, then we can honestly conclude that the SEC, ESPN and BCS (all connected politically and financially==ESPN the chair of the BCS) have duped us all for too long on in the NON-playoff years, and contributed substantially to the 6 year run of national titles through rankings manipulation, politiking of pollsters and public perceptions, scheduling controls that forbid games outside os geographical boundaires (west of the Miss and north of the Mason - Dixon), Bowl game selecting of certain teams that ESPN (as chair of major bowls that are tied in w/ the the SEC) approved of to play in southern located bowls to maintain the perception of superiority (ie, lowly Big Ten teams with major problems defensively to compete w/ SEC teams--ie, Nebraska).
Fans of football-unsavvy minnion to be duped and ultimately exploited
football players=just pawns in the game ("lil bastrds should just be grateful they have scholarships and just stfu, and enjoy the ride if they play in the SEC--just let us take care of business and orchestrate the rankings and bowl games"
How can you say Clemson embarrassed LSU. They led for 0 seconds the entire game. If Les Miles were any kind of a coach, they would have won that game. No excuse for FL. As an SEC homer and Gator alum, I am not going to say they were not up for the game. They were just outplayed by Louisville last night. Im sure if they played again you would take Louisville ML, right??
Everyone talks about SEC should play the PAC 12 and Big 12. If I am not mistaken, the last 5 national championship games included 3 teams from those conferences (OK, Texas, Oregon). One thing in common, they all lost to SEC foes. Until another team beats an SEC school in the NC, how can you not say that they are the best conference. The NFL is littered with first round picks from the SEC.
A troll is someone who looks to pick a fight with anyone online. A troll picks a comment that can piss someone off. You are trying to be a belligerent narrow minded SEC apologist (defender in dummied down talk). By definition, this post is written by a troll.
So a troll is someone who posts a comment that CAN piss people off?
I can’t possibly imagine how someone of your intelligence could have gotten boxed.
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
A troll is someone who looks to pick a fight with anyone online. A troll picks a comment that can piss someone off. You are trying to be a belligerent narrow minded SEC apologist (defender in dummied down talk). By definition, this post is written by a troll.
So a troll is someone who posts a comment that CAN piss people off?
I can’t possibly imagine how someone of your intelligence could have gotten boxed.
Already the top echelon SEC teams have failed. LSU and Florida were hyped up by ESPN all season (and pre-season) as "BCS contenders." and I cannot count honestly how many "scenarios" they painted up with Florida "more deserving than Kansas St and Oregon" to play fpr the NCshould #1 ND lose to USC). They actually were oblivious to the fact that the LSU vs Alabama NC of 2012 was a farce and one of the lowest ranked tv audiences ever.
So now I suppose Louisville with all those frshmen and sophomores (only 7 seniors) that beat up on "the BCS contender should ND fail vs USC", uh, we'll we see them ranked preseason higher than Florida ? Not if ESPN pundieteers can have a say ini it.
Seems to most of us that Louisville and Clemson were very beatable teams--a lot of programs couold have their way with them. How on Earth did they embarrass the darlings of the SEC that "if they were'nt in the SEC, they'd probably be undefeated."?.
If ND pulls off the stunner, then we can honestly conclude that the SEC, ESPN and BCS (all connected politically and financially==ESPN the chair of the BCS) have duped us all for too long on in the NON-playoff years, and contributed substantially to the 6 year run of national titles through rankings manipulation, politiking of pollsters and public perceptions, scheduling controls that forbid games outside os geographical boundaires (west of the Miss and north of the Mason - Dixon), Bowl game selecting of certain teams that ESPN (as chair of major bowls that are tied in w/ the the SEC) approved of to play in southern located bowls to maintain the perception of superiority (ie, lowly Big Ten teams with major problems defensively to compete w/ SEC teams--ie, Nebraska).
Fans of football-unsavvy minnion to be duped and ultimately exploited
football players=just pawns in the game ("lil bastrds should just be grateful they have scholarships and just stfu, and enjoy the ride if they play in the SEC--just let us take care of business and orchestrate the rankings and bowl games"
The SEC was 6-3 this bowl season and just won their 7th straight BCS Championship.
SEC haters
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Quote Originally Posted by Quantum_Leap:
Already the top echelon SEC teams have failed. LSU and Florida were hyped up by ESPN all season (and pre-season) as "BCS contenders." and I cannot count honestly how many "scenarios" they painted up with Florida "more deserving than Kansas St and Oregon" to play fpr the NCshould #1 ND lose to USC). They actually were oblivious to the fact that the LSU vs Alabama NC of 2012 was a farce and one of the lowest ranked tv audiences ever.
So now I suppose Louisville with all those frshmen and sophomores (only 7 seniors) that beat up on "the BCS contender should ND fail vs USC", uh, we'll we see them ranked preseason higher than Florida ? Not if ESPN pundieteers can have a say ini it.
Seems to most of us that Louisville and Clemson were very beatable teams--a lot of programs couold have their way with them. How on Earth did they embarrass the darlings of the SEC that "if they were'nt in the SEC, they'd probably be undefeated."?.
If ND pulls off the stunner, then we can honestly conclude that the SEC, ESPN and BCS (all connected politically and financially==ESPN the chair of the BCS) have duped us all for too long on in the NON-playoff years, and contributed substantially to the 6 year run of national titles through rankings manipulation, politiking of pollsters and public perceptions, scheduling controls that forbid games outside os geographical boundaires (west of the Miss and north of the Mason - Dixon), Bowl game selecting of certain teams that ESPN (as chair of major bowls that are tied in w/ the the SEC) approved of to play in southern located bowls to maintain the perception of superiority (ie, lowly Big Ten teams with major problems defensively to compete w/ SEC teams--ie, Nebraska).
Fans of football-unsavvy minnion to be duped and ultimately exploited
football players=just pawns in the game ("lil bastrds should just be grateful they have scholarships and just stfu, and enjoy the ride if they play in the SEC--just let us take care of business and orchestrate the rankings and bowl games"
The SEC was 6-3 this bowl season and just won their 7th straight BCS Championship.
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