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after having some time to review, here are my thoughts on estimated opening week 1 numbers, first week always the toughest to project lines, looking forward to some LVSC numbers in a couple weeks
 
Oregon @ Boise St (-5)
Utah St @ Utah (-30)
South Carolina @ NC State (-4)
North Texas @ Ball St (-22)
Troy (-3) @ Bowling Green
Tulsa (-20) @ Tulane
San Jose St @ USC (-30)
BYU vs Oklahoma (-21) @ Arlington, TX
UL Monroe @ Texas (-39)
Navy @ Ohio St (-19)
Georgia @ Oklahoma State (-3)
Va Tech vs. Alabama (-3) @ Atlanta, GA
Akron @ Penn St (-29)
LSU (-18) @ Washington
Missouri vs. Illinois (-7) @ St. Louis, MO
Maryland @ Cal (-13)
Cincinnati @ Rutgers (-3)
Middle Tenn @ Clemson (-19)
Baylor @ Wake Forest (-9)
Florida Atl @ Nebraska (-23)
Northern Ill @ Wisconsin (-16)
La Tech @ Auburn (-15)
W Kentucky @ Tennessee (-25)
Connecticut (-10) @ Ohio
Mississippi (-17) @ Memphis
Central Mich @ Arizona (-17)
Kentucky (-15) vs. Miami OH @ Cincinnati, OH
W Mich @ Michigan (-7)
Nevada @ Notre Dame (-10)
San Diego St @ UCLA (-17)
New Mexico @ Tex A&M (-10)
Toledo @ Purdue (-12)
Colorado St @ Colorado (-13)
Rice (-3) @ UAB
Minnesota (-5) @ Syracuse
Stanford (-15) @ Wash St
Buffalo @ UTEP (PK)
Idaho @ New Mex St (-10)
Army @ E Michigan (-2)
 
 
 
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Nice Work as always Brother
 
here are my guesses ... next to yours
 
Oregon @ Boise St (-5)                  4.5
Utah St @ Utah (-30)                     30.5
South Carolina @ NC State (-4)       5.5
North Texas @ Ball St (-22)            24.5
Troy (-3) @ Bowling Green              7
Tulsa (-20) @ Tulane                      23
San Jose St @ USC (-30)               31
BYU vs Oklahoma (-21) @ Arlington, T     24.5
UL Monroe @ Texas (-39)                40
Navy @ Ohio St (-19)                      19.5
Georgia @ Oklahoma State (-3         2.5
Va Tech vs. Alabama (-3) @ Atlanta, GA    -3
Akron @ Penn St (-29)                      30
LSU (-18) @ Washington                   21
Missouri vs. Illinois (-7) @ St. Louis, MO    8.5
Maryland @ Cal (-13)                          16
Cincinnati @ Rutgers (-3)                   2.5
Middle Tenn @ Clemson (-19)            23
Baylor @ Wake Forest (-9)                7.5
Florida Atl @ Nebraska (-23)              24
Northern Ill @ Wisconsin (-16)            18
La Tech @ Auburn (-15)                     16
W Kentucky @ Tennessee (-25)          26.5
Connecticut (-10) @ Ohio                  10
Mississippi (-17) @ Memphis              16.5
Central Mich @ Arizona (-17)              19
Kentucky (-15) vs. Miami OH @ Cincinnati, OH   17.5
W Mich @ Michigan (-7)                     13.5
Nevada @ Notre Dame (-10)                 13.5
San Diego St @ UCLA (-17)                 22
New Mexico @ Tex A&M (-10)             14.5
Toledo @ Purdue (-12)                          14
Colorado St @ Colorado (-13)               15
Rice (-3) @ UAB                                 Pick 
Minnesota (-5) @ Syracuse                  -5.5
Stanford (-15) @ Wash St                    -16
Buffalo @ UTEP (PK)                         Utep -1.5
Idaho @ New Mex St (-10)                   -10
Army @ E Michigan (-2)                      +2
 
 
right now with your Line Guesses I would most likely wager on
 
NC St. -4   LARGE
Troy -3  LARGE
Georgia +3
LSU -18
Cal -13
Cincinnati +3
Baylor +9
Nebraska -23
Ohio +10
Kentucky -15
Michigan -7  Large
Texas A&M -10 Large
UAB +3
Stanford -15   Large
U at Buffalo +3
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The Cal number is low.  Last year, they were -14 at Maryland.  Now they get a revenge game at home, against a team picked by many to finish 5th or 6th (last) in the ACC Atlantic Division.  With Cal ranked as high as 11 Nationally, and given a solid chance to unseat USC and win the Pac 10 Champinship, who would take Maryland and 13 points?  I think the line is closer to 17.  Remember, you have to make a line that will get some action on both sides, and I sure can't see anyone taking Maryland and only getting 13 points.
 
Don't be suprised tosee the Alabama-Va Tech game a pick,or close to it.  There are so many people who would take either team even, that it may not be necessary to come up with a big number like 3.  I would be suprised to see the number exceed 2.  Maybe 2.5, tops.
 
I think the number on Notre Dame is low.  Remember, we are talking Notre Dame here, and while the number you hae may be acurate as far as skills go, you have to take into consideration that the rabid Irish fans will add 3-4 points onto the line.  I think it is closer to 14.
 
Good job.  Thanks for the post.
 
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I haven't done all my research yet, but I think I'd be on the following with these lines...

NC State -4
Troy -3
Navy +19
Oklahoma State -3
Va Tech + 3
Cal -13
Baylor +9
Tennessee -25
C Mich +17

 
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Nice work my friend...
 
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those are damn good guesses

BIG     aggies .....cal.......troy
NORMAL      ducks      lsu     ntexas !!      nebraska     baylor     michigan    
SMALL     e mich    uab     cmich     illinois
9-4......8-5.......gimme my $$$
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the line on that tenn game is huge man, i know its only wku,  hey nos, u or anyone else think they can cover that? why? tenn's QB is suspect, what if they just keep shooting themselves in the foot.
 
 
 
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taking longhorns -39-50
 
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:

the line on that tenn game is huge man, i know its only wku,  hey nos, u or anyone else think they can cover that? why? tenn's QB is suspect, what if they just keep shooting themselves in the foot.


WKU.....8/4 starters back from 2-10...lose qb.....only 2/7 def front back......should get killed.......think LK will take it easy on 'em if vols get up ????......tenn or nothing....small play only
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



WKU.....8/4 starters back from 2-10...lose qb.....only 2/7 def front back......should get killed.......think LK will take it easy on 'em if vols get up ????......tenn or nothing....small play only

i disagree home boy i disagree, judging by LK's persona he will feed wku to the fish, my only conern is at QB=T.O., maybe they pound the rock all day with their 3 headed monster and wont need a QB, i need that crompton guy ready for wk2 vs ucla.

 
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I think Lane Kiffin wants to make a big first impression on the Vol community and he'll run it up.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



WKU.....8/4 starters back from 2-10...lose qb.....only 2/7 def front back......should get killed.......think LK will take it easy on 'em if vols get up ????......tenn or nothing....small play only

with LK personilty,he will try to score 100 points,@ home,big winner for the vols.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:

i disagree home boy i disagree, judging by LK's persona he will feed wku to the fish, my only conern is at QB=T.O., maybe they pound the rock all day with their 3 headed monster and wont need a QB, i need that crompton guy ready for wk2 vs ucla.


that's what i said .......he will score 100 if he CAN.....small play only because of TO possibility......> a smooth..... finely tuned..... 55-10 game MIGHT happen.......a 3-4 TO.......28-7......35 -13 type game just as likely
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tell you what though ......will be paying VERY close attention to 1st 1/2 action.....wouldn't surprise at all if close at 1/2 time......due to mistakes./ TO..... > will pound vols  (if reasonable number)  in 2nd 1/2......

* only if blood alcohol level under .2 or so........< QBoption.... that criteria would eliminate your crazy ass from any action
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

tell you what though ......will be paying VERY close attention to 1st 1/2 action.....wouldn't surprise at all if close at 1/2 time......due to mistakes./ TO..... > will pound vols  (if reasonable number)  in 2nd 1/2......

* only if blood alcohol level under .2 or so........< QBoption.... that criteria would eliminate your crazy ass from any action

thats why i make my pix first, then show my ticket to server, to avoid any crazy azz pix...LV Hilton here i come!!!!!!!!  JEAH!!!!!!!!

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not sure what to do with the Tennessee vs WKU game ...... might sit this one out
 
Let's see what the # is first on this one
 
taking a Look at at the Vols  ... who have some winnable home games 
 
My #'s for the Vols schedule has them finishing  
 
7-5   30%
8-4   27%
6-6    26%
5-7 or worse   16%    
9-3 or better   2%
 
my Predictions
 
Wins  7
WKU -24...UCLA -14....Ohio -17....
Auburn -4...South Carolina -7...
Memphis-13...Vanderbilt-10
 
Loses 5
at Florida +27..Georgia +10...
at Bama +17...at Mississippi +13...
at Kentucky +1
 
 
I will be Playing Tennessee at Home
 
and Fading them on the road
 
 
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looks like Okla St around a FG might split the action pretty well
 
double - looks like we're pretty close on most of those numbers so could be a good sign, cannot disagree with many of your leans, if Buffalo can get some QB play they should have another good year (solid 29-19 ATS over past few years)
 
QBoption - might be tough to lay too many with Vols (8 TD passes last year and combined 2 TDs against NIU and Wyoming) with no guaranteed improved QB play, on the other hand WKU won't break much more than 10 so probably will take a look Aug camp to see if Vols offense looks capable of getting 35+
 
bigdaddy - probably right on Cal being higher, ND a couple pts higher wouldn't surprise either with all the offseason hype
 
cosmo - maybe WF slips to TD or less, given they were only -4 over Vandy close of last year and Baylor steady improvement (and Wake losing a couple key players)
 
 
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Whats your FSU/Miami prediction?
 
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Whats your FSU/Miami prediction?
 
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im sorry can u repeat the question please...
 
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what book do you guys recomend for football.  I have multiple accounts but just really want to narrow it down to like to.  any thoughts about bookmaker?
 
 
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the Greek, any probs were handled, checks in the mail errr, fedex.
 
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simmy2637 - missed that Monday night game
 
MiaFL @ Florida St (-6)
 
FSU probably 2-3 pts better power rating plus home field, was +2 at Miami last year, 'under' used to be easy money in the series (5-0 from 02-06) until last two years 29-37 and 41-39 with neither defense as dominant as used to be
 
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tough to see FSU going to -7, people would jump on Miami too much, being rivalry game and none decided by more than 8 since 2001
 
 
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Here are my four plays...
Top Play
UL Monroe @ Texas (-39) - Kickoff Spread -41
Pick - Texas
I am telling you people, Texas will blow out ULM at home by 50+... Look at the MOV for the 1st home game for the last ten years.  Texas is 9-1 ATS (exception - Ark St. 2007)  Our PS All American DE Sergio Kindle crashed his car into a building last week, left the season, then reported it the next day.  He has had off field troubles before.  The Longhorn Nation is betting he will miss the ULM game.  But it will not matter...
 
Maryland @ Cal (-13) - Kickoff Spread - 15
Pick - CAL
Cal has disapointed me in the past.  However, this is at home, J. Best is one of the best backs in the country, with Syd' Quan in the secondary, competent WR's and a good D line along with Maryland's relative inexperience, Cal should win big.  In addition, Riley has a giant chip on his shoulders to prove his naysayers wrong.  I think he, Tedford and Cal will come out swinging and get up by 21 by half time...Again, this is my 2nd ranked game, but I will have to watch both CAL and Maryland during August practice before I make my final decision.   Maryland has its starting RB, starting QB and 2nd and 3rd WR's back, so they are solid with skill position players.   The revenge factor scares me a bit for Cal.  How much does revenge factor into "execution" on the field.  Maryland was a terrible away team last year (0-4 ATS) while Cal was 7-0 ATS at home last year.  Since this is the first game, do you think the linesmakers will factor this into the spread.  It seems to me that the ATS performance permiumfor a specific scenario would have less weight current v. last year then it would if it were factored later in the season.  You guys can see that I am high on Cal, but I still need to do more homework...I will appreciate your thoughts...
 
W Kentucky @ Tennessee (-25) - Kickoff Spread - 26.5
Pick - Tenn
I agree with other posters.  Tenn will run the ball first, give Crompton some confidence, and have the Vol nation in a frenzy by half time.  Tenn really suffered last year with a home loss to Wyoming and others.  In my opinion, "the spread" = expections, especally in this game for this particular program.  Any "thought" of Tenn not exceeding expectations will be a bad start for someone like LK and his moxie.  He will want to walk the talk... 
Tenn had talent last year, and in my opinion has a very talented team.  They will send a message to UCLA and the rest of the SEC and hold nothing back.  There is a new enthusiasm for the Vol program.  Enthusiasm is contagious... Even though this is my third ranked game, I think the Vols will have this spread covered by half time... 
 
Stanford (-15) @ Wash St - Kickoff Spread - 16.5
Pick - Stanford
How bad is Wash St?   I have read on their Scout.com site that they have a new focus, are in the 2nd year of Wulff's program, and some of their key players have added muscle.  yada yada yada.   Stanford won't win this game 59-0 like last year, but I believe they can cover a spread up to 20.  In addition, I think Andrew Luck is going to rip apart WSU's secondary.  Again, I know WSU will be significantly improved this year, but will they improve "that" much???  
 
 
 
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