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Quote Originally Posted by hintonbears:

you give me 7 and we will throw a hundred on it bro.. tomorrow.. most yards wv got against lsu were in the second half trash time.. dont just look at the box scores watch the game.. pretty clear alabama out played lsu the first game.. zebras calling reid's play an interception was bullshit.. ok st lost as 27 point favorites.. do you understand that.. thats like alabama losing to ole miss.. come on man. let the two best teams play it out in the big dance..
West Virginia was moving the ball up and down the field in the 1st half. I remember I was playing poker and watching the game that night. And I would never wager with another online. No disrespect i'm wagering enough on them @ -1 so there is no reason at all for me to make another wager @ -7. I'm ok with being called delusional. I can still get up and put my pant's on in the morning. As long as i know i'm right that's all that matter's to me. The BCS was a fail in my eyes. And in your eyes it wasn't and that's just fine... 
 
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West Virginia was moving the ball up and down the field in the 1st half. I remember I was playing poker and watching the game that night. And I would never wager with another online. No disrespect i'm wagering enough on them @ -1 so there is no reason at all for me to make another wager @ -7. I'm ok with being called delusional. I can still get up and put my pant's on in the morning. As long as i know i'm right that's all that matter's to me. The BCS was a fail in my eyes. And in your eyes it wasn't and that's just fine... 

The BCS didn't fail, the Big 12 Conference failed. They have reaped what they sowed. Now maybe the next time the SEC approaches them with a playoff proposal, they'll listen. Oklahoma State has no legitimate grip with anyone except the officials of the Big 12 conference.

 

 
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Okla St. has nobody to blame but their own head coach for being left out. 

Would Saban ever say Oklahoma State is more deserving? HELL NO! Gundy should've been politicking for his team from the start. Or, at least keep his trap shut.  But WTF say that Bama is actually better than Okla State?  If he doesn't think they're better, why would other voters?

Yes, he said it before the Okla game, but the damage is done. 

He should've learned from Urban Meyers.  No rematch. Hell, he should've quoted Urban.  Straight from an SEC coach.  He should've dug up any vague references from Saban implying that a conference champ wasn't deserving of a BCS championship appearance. 

Even his justification on national TV after the Sooner victory was weak. People would rather see a 39-36 game vs a 9-6 game?  What kind of lame-ass justification is that?  If I were a voter, I'd try to pick the 2 deserving teams, not the most entertaining teams. I'd pick Houston vs Boise State otherwise.

How about Okla. St. has better wins? Or Bama had their chance already? Or teams that don't win their conference aren't deserving.  Something.  Geezus. You'd never know he had $500,000 bonus riding on a BCS championship appearance.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:

The BCS didn't fail, the Big 12 Conference failed. They have reaped what they sowed. Now maybe the next time the SEC approaches them with a playoff proposal, they'll listen. Oklahoma State has no legitimate grip with anyone except the officials of the Big 12 conference.

 

Whatever. The SEC voted against that same playoff proposal, too

 
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Personally, I hope there's more SEC rematches in the future, so that TV ratings go down the tubes.
 
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I agree with you here Boom..

 
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Whatever. The SEC voted against that same playoff proposal, too

The SEC made the proposal, and nobody voted because there wasn't a vote.  And there wasn't a vote because none of the AQ conferences except the ACC would consider it.

 

 
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Ok, let's look. 

Down year for Oklahoma, another down year for Texas. That alone skews public perception of the conference as a whole. Yes there were a lot of decent squads based on record and that makes the conference more competitive than this year's top heavy SEC, but OU/UT shittiness takes away from OSU's success, and the Baylor's/Kansas State's of the world carry no cache whatsoever. 

Not one team plays any defense except for the Longhorns. Not a single one of Oklahoma State's defensive starters would sniff the field for Alabama or LSU, that whole conference is just a bunch of video game offenses facing defenses that can't keep up. Extreme thing to say, but the general consensus agrees with this too. Explain to me how the points I made are wrong without introducing another factor to the argument or belittling me.

Oklahoma State lost to an average team as a 27 point favorite and it came a few weeks after Alabama lost to LSU in overtime as a 4 point favorite, when those two teams each have one loss and are the two teams being considered for the #2 spot it's a stretch for a large group of people to collectively value the 22 other games they played more than those single losses. OSU's loss is quite clearly worse than Alabama's.

Is it entirely fair? Of course not, and yes a playoff would be the best way to go about things, but let's not make this rematch out to be a completely inexcusable injustice. It's understandable on some level, not total madness like you seem to believe. 


nice post  

also,just like they said last night on the selection show, after Bama lost to LSU certain things had to happen for them to get back to #2 and they all did.....

just that kind of year
 
 
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Ok, let's look. 

Down year for Oklahoma, another down year for Texas. That alone skews public perception of the conference as a whole. Yes there were a lot of decent squads based on record and that makes the conference more competitive than this year's top heavy SEC, but OU/UT shittiness takes away from OSU's success, and the Baylor's/Kansas State's of the world carry no cache whatsoever. 

Not one team plays any defense except for the Longhorns. Not a single one of Oklahoma State's defensive starters would sniff the field for Alabama or LSU, that whole conference is just a bunch of video game offenses facing defenses that can't keep up. Extreme thing to say, but the general consensus agrees with this too. Explain to me how the points I made are wrong without introducing another factor to the argument or belittling me.

Oklahoma State lost to an average team as a 27 point favorite and it came a few weeks after Alabama lost to LSU in overtime as a 4 point favorite, when those two teams each have one loss and are the two teams being considered for the #2 spot it's a stretch for a large group of people to collectively value the 22 other games they played more than those single losses. OSU's loss is quite clearly worse than Alabama's.

Is it entirely fair? Of course not, and yes a playoff would be the best way to go about things, but let's not make this rematch out to be a completely inexcusable injustice. It's understandable on some level, not total madness like you seem to believe. 

You could stop right there.  Just b/c the "traditional" powers of a conference aren't good one year, doesn't justify throwing objectivity out the window.

All you've done is explain the rationale of a pollster choosing Alabama over Oklahoma State b/c he's a moron. 

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