WEEK 1 GAMES / LINES....

Quote Originally Posted by Shark_Attack:

Bookie, since these are the lines you think should be posted on these games, what do you predict will be the actual lines posted? To my knowledge no lines have been released on these games yet... but I haven't checked all sites. Curious what you think.I agree with your line on FSU - OSU... posted line on 5Dimes was (-17.5) last I checked, which is too high, even with some of the off-field issues OSU is having. If FSU played in the Big 12 I believe they would struggle mightily to win it, and wouldn't make it through the season with fewer than 2 losses. They are clearly over-valued, based on this line.

Quote Originally Posted by Sabanade:



I hope you are joking, or are drunk..... What two teams in the B12 would beat them?? The only one with half of a chance would be OU in Norman. In Tally, FSU wins by 14. The rest, including Baylor and UT, are straight up dog squeeze.

Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:


ummm.....those lines weren't half bad................

S T O P !!........looking for reasons to pat these teams on the back......any team like Fla St that covered 75%+ of their games LY......and returns #1 in the nation with a Heisman trophy winner.....now asked to cover seriously INFLATED numbers.........
  *as PUBLIC bettors A-S-Sume.....the good times will continue.
 
Your first thought MUST be to >>   FADE....FADE.....FADE these boys..........or stay away 

  *WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO PROVE BY BETTING THESE INFLATED NUMBERS?............seriously

At a sports bar sure....sit and get drunk/drool on yourself.....talk about how awesome they were LAST YEAR......maybe go to Tallahassee....... offer up your wife / GF / even daughter .....if of age ..........get it OVER with man! >> then come back here with your mind right.....and objectively break this s-h-i-t down.....
  *the CRABMAN will take you up on it....I'm guessin'......Jimbo too if hot enough......................

Myself.....and maybe 1 or two others here...........
  *see a team that (no doubt) dominated about the nation's 70th or so toughest schedule.....
  *played 1 (flaky) top 20 team away....and beat the crap outta them (Clemson)......
   $$$   played ONE top ten team....and were dominated most of the game........only 19 FD / 2-12 on 3rd / 385 TO .....Auburn 25 FD / 10-18 3rd / 450 TO.........IMO Auburn choked down the stretch or Fla St loses that game........... 

*the Sagarin ratings for their victims?.....(don't use polls)
190 > 129 > 113 > 98 > 86 > 73 > 64 > 62 > 55 > 53 > 49 > 37> 14 > 4

FEI ratings....(team efficiency based on strength of opponent)
119 > 98 > 92 > 86 > 80 > 71 > 70 > 52 > 49 > 42 > 35 > 22 > 4

   how many other teams are dude just the awesomest team ever ?....playing THAT schedule.....and at least make it to the BCS title game.........

Bama ? yep
Ducks? sure
Ohio St? maybe
Tree?...yep
OU?.....looks like
BAYLOR?....I think so
Mizzou?.....yes
Michigan St?......you bet
S Caro?.....easily see it
TEXAS?....hell no but Mack still has his job  

Quote Originally Posted by WISEGUY36:






BA,     Teams like Houston, and Hawai'i in the
           June Jones era scare the daylights out of me.
           as they have a philosophy that:
          " I don't need to play defense cause I'm gonna
            out score ya." scares the heck out of me as a
            bettor , so I just play the total and ignore the side.
            That's like Sumlin at A&m as well except he's
            missing some offensive weapons this season.
            I tend to prefer teams that are capable of playing
            team defense to provide an offset rather than
            to rely on offense to solely carry the load. I believe
            that in conference , IMO , Houston's D will be OK.
            in previous years they have struggled in the
            metric of defensive efficiency. They are making
            strides in this area, and seem to be more
            physical as well.

BA  

Quote Originally Posted by GoGoplata123:

BA always a pleasure hearing your thoughts.... I'm sure you'll find some different numbers and find a way to roast me on this.... But the numbers I've seen show that defending national champs come out hot the next season opener. 20-4 with an average win of 44-13... Now I can't say that all those wins were against programs such as Oklahoma st... Regardless have you looked into the cowboys this year? 4/4 returning starters..coach Gundy(who IS a man, and IS 40) said he's running 10 true freshman out there against FSU.. 

Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

damm man..................I'm just saying don't BLINDLY purchase Apple....Wal Mart or Shell etc......  *especially after a great year / quarter.....and especially after their best year everSure ....you might somehow come out ahead / at year end... dancing around with your pants around your ankles > telling everybody who will listen how smart you are.........  *there's just a better / more proven way......that's all.........