BA..holy sh*t what a thread. .to do the real capping you do AND do the thread AND I think YU do multiple sports..I 've seen your threads but never clicked on one until 4am Sat..that was a great read..and I'm glad you weren't around when I was booking action before class and during lunch in middle/high school and pushin parlay cards at GT..now that I'm on the other side as a recreational/have fun/degenerate gambler m really new to the whole gambling forum chat room thing. .I have 2 ??'s and a comment/observation..somehow you manage to acknowledge everyone who posts and would consider myself fortunate if you responded even if it's in next week's thread ?1..When you jump on those early numbers and feel pretty good about some of them after the Black Friday scramble and then see them move drastically in your favor over the week...do ever consider eating the juice on say a 7'-10' middle @20/1 odds? Or does that mess with your capping, cause you start second guessing or just confuse the brain by rooting for 2 events in one contest when you'd prefer to be rooting just to crush the fire sale #. It just sees like the payoff is so juicy to occasionally find a spot with the right spread, right key #'s and a place where during the week you have reconsidered your original thinking. Yes, I realize a 7-10 pt middle isn't necessarily a yell from the roof top event in college like it would be in nfl.
??2..I love your early #'s and your explanation to people that complain or doubt. Those sound like the #'s that get hung early, early in Vegas fir a select few people to pound into place before the masses see them. I like looking at numbers, trends, line movements, creating formulas, theories and testing by hand during a mind snoozer. The line I'd like to find us the one that everyone in the world universally calls the "opening line"..not the BOL fire sale line but the "first" one that us readily available to 99% f the world. I realize every corner bookie, every offshore, etc might differ by a half point but there is a generally accepted and quoted #, not necessarily an average of #'s but the # that the last majority "open" at, the number that accounts for throwing out the odd high and low #'s. Sort of like the average of the bid and ask price of a traded stock/bond/commodity. I'll save my comment/observation for later..it was to a response you gave about an open ended parlay..its late ( early) and I'm doing all this typing from a phone in the dark. Sorry that I am a little verbose. .u tend to over word things in an attempt to ask/say exactly what I mean so I don't have to do it more than once. Good luck today I'll be keeping an eye out on your black Friday picks and seeing where things d up in relation to the late lines. Thanks for you time and help. Makes me wanna go read one of your baseball threads!!
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BA..holy sh*t what a thread. .to do the real capping you do AND do the thread AND I think YU do multiple sports..I 've seen your threads but never clicked on one until 4am Sat..that was a great read..and I'm glad you weren't around when I was booking action before class and during lunch in middle/high school and pushin parlay cards at GT..now that I'm on the other side as a recreational/have fun/degenerate gambler m really new to the whole gambling forum chat room thing. .I have 2 ??'s and a comment/observation..somehow you manage to acknowledge everyone who posts and would consider myself fortunate if you responded even if it's in next week's thread ?1..When you jump on those early numbers and feel pretty good about some of them after the Black Friday scramble and then see them move drastically in your favor over the week...do ever consider eating the juice on say a 7'-10' middle @20/1 odds? Or does that mess with your capping, cause you start second guessing or just confuse the brain by rooting for 2 events in one contest when you'd prefer to be rooting just to crush the fire sale #. It just sees like the payoff is so juicy to occasionally find a spot with the right spread, right key #'s and a place where during the week you have reconsidered your original thinking. Yes, I realize a 7-10 pt middle isn't necessarily a yell from the roof top event in college like it would be in nfl.
??2..I love your early #'s and your explanation to people that complain or doubt. Those sound like the #'s that get hung early, early in Vegas fir a select few people to pound into place before the masses see them. I like looking at numbers, trends, line movements, creating formulas, theories and testing by hand during a mind snoozer. The line I'd like to find us the one that everyone in the world universally calls the "opening line"..not the BOL fire sale line but the "first" one that us readily available to 99% f the world. I realize every corner bookie, every offshore, etc might differ by a half point but there is a generally accepted and quoted #, not necessarily an average of #'s but the # that the last majority "open" at, the number that accounts for throwing out the odd high and low #'s. Sort of like the average of the bid and ask price of a traded stock/bond/commodity. I'll save my comment/observation for later..it was to a response you gave about an open ended parlay..its late ( early) and I'm doing all this typing from a phone in the dark. Sorry that I am a little verbose. .u tend to over word things in an attempt to ask/say exactly what I mean so I don't have to do it more than once. Good luck today I'll be keeping an eye out on your black Friday picks and seeing where things d up in relation to the late lines. Thanks for you time and help. Makes me wanna go read one of your baseball threads!!
BA, Well, here we go again. #2. With you on Pitt., N. Car., and UAB. Haven't played Tulsa yet but probably. Hope you don't suffer to much with the @Navy 42-14 win. I'm starting to lean W. Mich. +7.5.
I'll be doing the 4 team PIP again. It's like staring into a strobe light after awhile. Post you 2nd H's if you can. I'll try to do the same.
Any 1st halves??
Stay Hard and GL, Doc
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BA, Well, here we go again. #2. With you on Pitt., N. Car., and UAB. Haven't played Tulsa yet but probably. Hope you don't suffer to much with the @Navy 42-14 win. I'm starting to lean W. Mich. +7.5.
I'll be doing the 4 team PIP again. It's like staring into a strobe light after awhile. Post you 2nd H's if you can. I'll try to do the same.
BA..holy sh*t what a thread. .to do the real capping you do AND do the thread AND I think YU do multiple sports..I 've seen your threads but never clicked on one until 4am Sat..that was a great read..and I'm glad you weren't around when I was booking action before class and during lunch in middle/high school and pushin parlay cards at GT..now that I'm on the other side as a recreational/have fun/degenerate gambler m really new to the whole gambling forum chat room thing. .I have 2 ??'s and a comment/observation..somehow you manage to acknowledge everyone who posts and would consider myself fortunate if you responded even if it's in next week's thread ?1..When you jump on those early numbers and feel pretty good about some of them after the Black Friday scramble and then see them move drastically in your favor over the week...do ever consider eating the juice on say a 7'-10' middle @20/1 odds? Or does that mess with your capping, cause you start second guessing or just confuse the brain by rooting for 2 events in one contest when you'd prefer to be rooting just to crush the fire sale #. It just sees like the payoff is so juicy to occasionally find a spot with the right spread, right key #'s and a place where during the week you have reconsidered your original thinking. Yes, I realize a 7-10 pt middle isn't necessarily a yell from the roof top event in college like it would be in nfl.
??2..I love your early #'s and your explanation to people that complain or doubt. Those sound like the #'s that get hung early, early in Vegas fir a select few people to pound into place before the masses see them. I like looking at numbers, trends, line movements, creating formulas, theories and testing by hand during a mind snoozer. The line I'd like to find us the one that everyone in the world universally calls the "opening line"..not the BOL fire sale line but the "first" one that us readily available to 99% f the world. I realize every corner bookie, every offshore, etc might differ by a half point but there is a generally accepted and quoted #, not necessarily an average of #'s but the # that the last majority "open" at, the number that accounts for throwing out the odd high and low #'s. Sort of like the average of the bid and ask price of a traded stock/bond/commodity. I'll save my comment/observation for later..it was to a response you gave about an open ended parlay..its late ( early) and I'm doing all this typing from a phone in the dark. Sorry that I am a little verbose. .u tend to over word things in an attempt to ask/say exactly what I mean so I don't have to do it more than once. Good luck today I'll be keeping an eye out on your black Friday picks and seeing where things d up in relation to the late lines. Thanks for you time and help. Makes me wanna go read one of your baseball threads!!
many thanks for the kind words man...........
NOPE....I have no number sense whatsoever.....
* I grind the hell outta what I think a number (should) be......hit it...back away....move on...........
$$ Any 'adjustments' are made in-game / halftime.....when I'm wrong....often it's apparent early........like last week IF I had W Virginia.....I see the Hokies OL absolutely mauling that WV defensive front.....I might say "oh shiit"....buy it back in-game
BOL this week..................
Those early #'s are all BetOnline .....and are posted anywhere between 12:00p > 3:00p E....like waiting for the damm cable guy
The impediment to action advances action - what stands in the way becomes the way.
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Quote Originally Posted by Coversrookie:
BA..holy sh*t what a thread. .to do the real capping you do AND do the thread AND I think YU do multiple sports..I 've seen your threads but never clicked on one until 4am Sat..that was a great read..and I'm glad you weren't around when I was booking action before class and during lunch in middle/high school and pushin parlay cards at GT..now that I'm on the other side as a recreational/have fun/degenerate gambler m really new to the whole gambling forum chat room thing. .I have 2 ??'s and a comment/observation..somehow you manage to acknowledge everyone who posts and would consider myself fortunate if you responded even if it's in next week's thread ?1..When you jump on those early numbers and feel pretty good about some of them after the Black Friday scramble and then see them move drastically in your favor over the week...do ever consider eating the juice on say a 7'-10' middle @20/1 odds? Or does that mess with your capping, cause you start second guessing or just confuse the brain by rooting for 2 events in one contest when you'd prefer to be rooting just to crush the fire sale #. It just sees like the payoff is so juicy to occasionally find a spot with the right spread, right key #'s and a place where during the week you have reconsidered your original thinking. Yes, I realize a 7-10 pt middle isn't necessarily a yell from the roof top event in college like it would be in nfl.
??2..I love your early #'s and your explanation to people that complain or doubt. Those sound like the #'s that get hung early, early in Vegas fir a select few people to pound into place before the masses see them. I like looking at numbers, trends, line movements, creating formulas, theories and testing by hand during a mind snoozer. The line I'd like to find us the one that everyone in the world universally calls the "opening line"..not the BOL fire sale line but the "first" one that us readily available to 99% f the world. I realize every corner bookie, every offshore, etc might differ by a half point but there is a generally accepted and quoted #, not necessarily an average of #'s but the # that the last majority "open" at, the number that accounts for throwing out the odd high and low #'s. Sort of like the average of the bid and ask price of a traded stock/bond/commodity. I'll save my comment/observation for later..it was to a response you gave about an open ended parlay..its late ( early) and I'm doing all this typing from a phone in the dark. Sorry that I am a little verbose. .u tend to over word things in an attempt to ask/say exactly what I mean so I don't have to do it more than once. Good luck today I'll be keeping an eye out on your black Friday picks and seeing where things d up in relation to the late lines. Thanks for you time and help. Makes me wanna go read one of your baseball threads!!
many thanks for the kind words man...........
NOPE....I have no number sense whatsoever.....
* I grind the hell outta what I think a number (should) be......hit it...back away....move on...........
$$ Any 'adjustments' are made in-game / halftime.....when I'm wrong....often it's apparent early........like last week IF I had W Virginia.....I see the Hokies OL absolutely mauling that WV defensive front.....I might say "oh shiit"....buy it back in-game
BOL this week..................
Those early #'s are all BetOnline .....and are posted anywhere between 12:00p > 3:00p E....like waiting for the damm cable guy
I'm loving Texas this week. Needless to say Herman got thoroughly embarrassed. If it's anything he doesn't want to hear, but has put up with all week is "Texas hasn't changed a bit, it still looks like Charlie Strong is coaching that team" (per ESPN). I guarantee you Herman is running hot right now. They aren't going to be humiliated two weeks in a row. I look for the Whorns to pull out a can of whoop behind this week. GL BA
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I'm loving Texas this week. Needless to say Herman got thoroughly embarrassed. If it's anything he doesn't want to hear, but has put up with all week is "Texas hasn't changed a bit, it still looks like Charlie Strong is coaching that team" (per ESPN). I guarantee you Herman is running hot right now. They aren't going to be humiliated two weeks in a row. I look for the Whorns to pull out a can of whoop behind this week. GL BA
BA, Well, here we go again. #2. With you on Pitt., N. Car., and UAB. Haven't played Tulsa yet but probably. Hope you don't suffer to much with the @Navy 42-14 win. I'm starting to lean W. Mich. +7.5.
I'll be doing the 4 team PIP again. It's like staring into a strobe light after awhile. Post you 2nd H's if you can. I'll try to do the same.
Any 1st halves??
Stay Hard and GL, Doc
Man stop putting that Skyline mojo on my Tulane pick.........
Tulane (should) play the hell outta Navy...........you'll notice that number has dropped to 10 seems like
RECKON ....there's no way I'll EVER convince you ....to look BEYOND the scores / records....the PREVIOUS year....to get a solid read on a team......Tulane was fairly tough until injuries and crap broke them down week 6 or so......plus that SOB Fritz CAN COACH man
* see Rutgers.....(arguably) 7-10 pts better.......
Got those flaky Sooners +4 1H....just a hunch they hang for awhile...........
The impediment to action advances action - what stands in the way becomes the way.
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Quote Originally Posted by Pecador:
BA, Well, here we go again. #2. With you on Pitt., N. Car., and UAB. Haven't played Tulsa yet but probably. Hope you don't suffer to much with the @Navy 42-14 win. I'm starting to lean W. Mich. +7.5.
I'll be doing the 4 team PIP again. It's like staring into a strobe light after awhile. Post you 2nd H's if you can. I'll try to do the same.
Any 1st halves??
Stay Hard and GL, Doc
Man stop putting that Skyline mojo on my Tulane pick.........
Tulane (should) play the hell outta Navy...........you'll notice that number has dropped to 10 seems like
RECKON ....there's no way I'll EVER convince you ....to look BEYOND the scores / records....the PREVIOUS year....to get a solid read on a team......Tulane was fairly tough until injuries and crap broke them down week 6 or so......plus that SOB Fritz CAN COACH man
* see Rutgers.....(arguably) 7-10 pts better.......
Got those flaky Sooners +4 1H....just a hunch they hang for awhile...........
I'm loving Texas this week. Needless to say Herman got thoroughly embarrassed. If it's anything he doesn't want to hear, but has put up with all week is "Texas hasn't changed a bit, it still looks like Charlie Strong is coaching that team" (per ESPN). I guarantee you Herman is running hot right now. They aren't going to be humiliated two weeks in a row. I look for the Whorns to pull out a can of whoop behind this week. GL BA
You're probably right.....but gotta admit I hated myself IMMEDIATELY for jumping head first on that early 23'........
OR.....save your money....as I have explained ad nauseam ....I love HERMAN at USC next week.......I'm hoping ....they stink today yet again......USC kills Tree......it (could) happen stop laughing ha.....
The impediment to action advances action - what stands in the way becomes the way.
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Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove:
I'm loving Texas this week. Needless to say Herman got thoroughly embarrassed. If it's anything he doesn't want to hear, but has put up with all week is "Texas hasn't changed a bit, it still looks like Charlie Strong is coaching that team" (per ESPN). I guarantee you Herman is running hot right now. They aren't going to be humiliated two weeks in a row. I look for the Whorns to pull out a can of whoop behind this week. GL BA
You're probably right.....but gotta admit I hated myself IMMEDIATELY for jumping head first on that early 23'........
OR.....save your money....as I have explained ad nauseam ....I love HERMAN at USC next week.......I'm hoping ....they stink today yet again......USC kills Tree......it (could) happen stop laughing ha.....
IF..... I only had the time......I would take both of you 2 knuckleheads to the handicapping woodshed.....maybe have you go get the switch yourself.......old school style......................
A. . for not reading the answer already posted
"343 PITTSBURGH 3:30 p.m. 344 PENN STATE -16' *Pitt > Okie St * Pitt won LY by 3 "
"note: Pitt....Texas...Baylor...and Tulsa just simple VALUE plays.....as in too good of a deal to pass up......IMO"
>> meaning IMO....the line is FIVE POINTS OFF
so of course I'm gonna play it.....at least small (1/2 unit here)
B. for bringing barstool handicapping into my pristine thread.
>> meaning .....try not to always bet the TEAM.....try to bet the NUMBER as well
* the more you do it.....the better
My one unit plays are essentially:
* TEAMS I like.....that are in a preferred SPOT......and provide VALUE too....with a few exceptions >>.value is arguably not there with Sparty....I think it should be higher...but 7 is reasonable
Smaller plays are often simple value picks (like those mentioned)....or lacking in one or two of the above
AND....to be honest.....those early BetOnline numbers are like a Black Friday shopping kung fu frenzy.....just throwing shiit into your cart......sometimes when you check out.....you go aw man I didn't want THAT crap wtf..........
* like Texas this week....23 seemed like a good deal....but it's really not.....I hope I LOSE that one
Pitt at 21' seemed way too high.....
* as I recalled.....Gold Sheet like 16.....Bill C 17....Sagarin 13
Over the years a fantastic road dog......they usually play CLOSE games......Miami's win by 23 LY the largest MOV in quite awhile
*could be wrong...but IMO Penn St is (likely) to be overvalued early
And look at it this way.....Penn St -21' ?.....the ultimate Texas State Fair....(square) fried butter wrapped in bacon / dipped in chocolate bet..........BOL this week boys............
I was joking. not that it matters.
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
IF..... I only had the time......I would take both of you 2 knuckleheads to the handicapping woodshed.....maybe have you go get the switch yourself.......old school style......................
A. . for not reading the answer already posted
"343 PITTSBURGH 3:30 p.m. 344 PENN STATE -16' *Pitt > Okie St * Pitt won LY by 3 "
"note: Pitt....Texas...Baylor...and Tulsa just simple VALUE plays.....as in too good of a deal to pass up......IMO"
>> meaning IMO....the line is FIVE POINTS OFF
so of course I'm gonna play it.....at least small (1/2 unit here)
B. for bringing barstool handicapping into my pristine thread.
>> meaning .....try not to always bet the TEAM.....try to bet the NUMBER as well
* the more you do it.....the better
My one unit plays are essentially:
* TEAMS I like.....that are in a preferred SPOT......and provide VALUE too....with a few exceptions >>.value is arguably not there with Sparty....I think it should be higher...but 7 is reasonable
Smaller plays are often simple value picks (like those mentioned)....or lacking in one or two of the above
AND....to be honest.....those early BetOnline numbers are like a Black Friday shopping kung fu frenzy.....just throwing shiit into your cart......sometimes when you check out.....you go aw man I didn't want THAT crap wtf..........
* like Texas this week....23 seemed like a good deal....but it's really not.....I hope I LOSE that one
Pitt at 21' seemed way too high.....
* as I recalled.....Gold Sheet like 16.....Bill C 17....Sagarin 13
Over the years a fantastic road dog......they usually play CLOSE games......Miami's win by 23 LY the largest MOV in quite awhile
*could be wrong...but IMO Penn St is (likely) to be overvalued early
And look at it this way.....Penn St -21' ?.....the ultimate Texas State Fair....(square) fried butter wrapped in bacon / dipped in chocolate bet..........BOL this week boys............
You're probably right.....but gotta admit I hated myself IMMEDIATELY for jumping head first on that early 23'........
OR.....save your money....as I have explained ad nauseam ....I love HERMAN at USC next week.......I'm hoping ....they stink today yet again......USC kills Tree......it (could) happen stop laughing ha.....
I always like when a favorite loses their first game. It almost always gives them some kind of value down the line. The causal weekend "favorites" bettor never forgets those losses. Oklahoma lost their first 3 games ATS last year, and were pretty much written off by the bettors. But won 6 out of their last 9 ATS. Temple lost to Army as -15 point favorites in their first game and were apparently totally written off since they went on to cover every game they played for the rest of the season. Most people have already formed their opinions on Texas. The only thing that could kill my play is the Texas QB situation. But I have a feeling it won't matter this week.
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
You're probably right.....but gotta admit I hated myself IMMEDIATELY for jumping head first on that early 23'........
OR.....save your money....as I have explained ad nauseam ....I love HERMAN at USC next week.......I'm hoping ....they stink today yet again......USC kills Tree......it (could) happen stop laughing ha.....
I always like when a favorite loses their first game. It almost always gives them some kind of value down the line. The causal weekend "favorites" bettor never forgets those losses. Oklahoma lost their first 3 games ATS last year, and were pretty much written off by the bettors. But won 6 out of their last 9 ATS. Temple lost to Army as -15 point favorites in their first game and were apparently totally written off since they went on to cover every game they played for the rest of the season. Most people have already formed their opinions on Texas. The only thing that could kill my play is the Texas QB situation. But I have a feeling it won't matter this week.
BA, Just figured something out. That's Sunset mojo! Except for one hot Redhead gal 50 yrs. ago I have nothing to do with Skyline.
Got @Navy -10 also. Now my most expensive play. Not a last week play. A last 3 years play. @Navy just keeps floating past all these avg. teams. Tulane has a lot more to prove to me than @Navy does.
Did I mention @Navy enough? Home team works for me. By the way, you have nervous.
Seems like Ohio St. often starts slow. Worth a look for sure. I don't like the # a lot but Tx. may be worth a 1H try.
My left-handed Baboon Throwing Crap (BTC) has good control this year.
Stay Hard, Doc
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BA, Just figured something out. That's Sunset mojo! Except for one hot Redhead gal 50 yrs. ago I have nothing to do with Skyline.
Got @Navy -10 also. Now my most expensive play. Not a last week play. A last 3 years play. @Navy just keeps floating past all these avg. teams. Tulane has a lot more to prove to me than @Navy does.
Did I mention @Navy enough? Home team works for me. By the way, you have nervous.
Seems like Ohio St. often starts slow. Worth a look for sure. I don't like the # a lot but Tx. may be worth a 1H try.
My left-handed Baboon Throwing Crap (BTC) has good control this year.
BA, Just figured something out. That's Sunset mojo! Except for one hot Redhead gal 50 yrs. ago I have nothing to do with Skyline.
Got @Navy -10 also. Now my most expensive play. Not a last week play. A last 3 years play. @Navy just keeps floating past all these avg. teams. Tulane has a lot more to prove to me than @Navy does.
Did I mention @Navy enough? Home team works for me. By the way, you have nervous.
Seems like Ohio St. often starts slow. Worth a look for sure. I don't like the # a lot but Tx. may be worth a 1H try.
My left-handed Baboon Throwing Crap (BTC) has good control this year.
Stay Hard, Doc
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Skyline / Sunset.......same damm thing ha..........you're gonna lose that Navy bet......or maybe they win by 11-13........... .
The impediment to action advances action - what stands in the way becomes the way.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Pecador]
BA, Just figured something out. That's Sunset mojo! Except for one hot Redhead gal 50 yrs. ago I have nothing to do with Skyline.
Got @Navy -10 also. Now my most expensive play. Not a last week play. A last 3 years play. @Navy just keeps floating past all these avg. teams. Tulane has a lot more to prove to me than @Navy does.
Did I mention @Navy enough? Home team works for me. By the way, you have nervous.
Seems like Ohio St. often starts slow. Worth a look for sure. I don't like the # a lot but Tx. may be worth a 1H try.
My left-handed Baboon Throwing Crap (BTC) has good control this year.
Stay Hard, Doc
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Skyline / Sunset.......same damm thing ha..........you're gonna lose that Navy bet......or maybe they win by 11-13........... .
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