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You seem to be a consistant douche everytime you speak


coming from someone with your stature.... I will take that as a MAJOR compliment.... Thanks!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

All right, I think I've made my decision.  Read a few reviews for the LCR and also some feedback on the Bud's Gun Shop website (thanks again to StraightShooter for this recommendation as I will be purchasing the gun from them....rave reviews from users and solid pricing ).  Appears to be universally accurate from 10 yards.....gets huge props for it's trigger mechanism (sounds like the double action trigger takes some getting used to, but people say it is consistently very smooth and easy to pull), super reliable, light, very easy to carry, and easy to pull.  And a .38 packs more punch than a .380.

 

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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

I really want to buy the Glock, but I've been watching some youtube videos and even with a great IWB holster, I'm just not sure how much I'd be able to carry it much in the summer.  And I'd hate to have a gun that I'd ever hesitate to carry due to size.  At the same time, the LCR will not be as accurate as the Glock.  I'm obviously leaning toward a gun that I will always be able to carry.  I've seen clips that it is more accurate than you might think for the barrel length.

And I expect to practice a LOT.  I got a little nervous when we did the shooting portion of the concealed carry course (everyone was watching).  I was still plenty accurate, but if you're ever in a situtaion where you have to pull your gun for real, the stress will be off the charts.  If you're not completely comfortable and very proficient with pulling and firing your gun, you have no chance. 

Thanks again for everyone's input.  Local gun shop has both the Glock and the LCR.  Gonna look at them both this week and then order from Bud's. 

Then you definitely made the right decision going with the LCR.  IMO, the glock is the better overall weapon, but it won’t do you much good sitting at home when you need it.  A .22 with you is better than a .45 at home.

I have a P3AT that I carry almost everywhere with me.  I even carry it when I work out. Most of the time I forget it’s even there.  Of course it (along with the LCR) is far from the ideal weapon you’d want if the SHTF, but it’s much better than nothing.

 

 
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Okay, I just asked the bum how that went.  He said you pissed your pants, you gave him your wallet and he fucked your girlfriend.  He said you are confused about the meaning of "disarm".

 

 
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I carry all the time. (when home in Texas).  I carry a Colt Python with a 2.5"bbl. in .357 Mag. I own several auto-loaders but as I have a large penis I do not need to pack 15+ rounds in my gun to make me feel like a man. If you cannot resolve it in 6. Then you need more range time.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

Then you definitely made the right decision going with the LCR.  IMO, the glock is the better overall weapon, but it won’t do you much good sitting at home when you need it.  A .22 with you is better than a .45 at home.

I have a P3AT that I carry almost everywhere with me.  I even carry it when I work out. Most of the time I forget it’s even there.  Of course it (along with the LCR) is far from the ideal weapon you’d want if the SHTF, but it’s much better than nothing.

I have a Bersa .380 (which is really comfortable to shoot, but doesn't pack much punch).  I'm hoping I might end up with a stable of 3:  The LCR, the Glock, and the Bersa (cheap ammo for the range). 

The reviews for the LCR say that it is actually pretty darn accurate for a tiny wheel gun.  That has me encouraged.  I expect to spend a lot of time with it at the range for sure. 

My conceal and carry instructor had a P3AT (just as a prop...he brought a bunch of guns to talk about pros and cons of each).  Nice gun for what it is.

I do not need to pack 15+ rounds in my gun to make me feel like a man. If you cannot resolve it in 6. Then you need more range time.

Agreed.  You may not stop someone dead (ie. if they were on PCP or something).  But at a minimum, you ought to be able to make it VERY difficult for that person to pursue you if you took off running.  

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I have a Kahr Arms PM9. Love it ... I have fired many rounds through it without a single jam.

I had to come back to this to see if anyone had recommended a Kahr arms pistol.  I actually went to go check out the Glock 26 and it just felt way too fat in my hand.  Two wide for a comfortable IWB hoster IMO.  I immediately knew that I wouldn't carry it very often.  

Low and behold, the guy behind the counter yanks out a Kahr PW9. LOVED it.  Felt great in the hand and loved the balance.  It's a 7+1 but with the stacked mag, it's nice and thin. 

Went on line to research and found the PM9 as well.  Liked that a lot, but there were some complaints re. fit and finish and FTE problems.  More so than with the PW9.  I also liked the larger grip of the PW9....don't have to find a spot for the pinkie.  

So I am anxiously awaiting arrival of my PW9.  

I might end up getting a wheel gun just for fun since I saved some money by not buying the Glock.  

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Glad you have had good luck with the PM9.  I have heard Kahrs really need about 200 rounds through 'em before they are broken in. How many do you have through yours thus far?

 
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I had to come back to this to see if anyone had recommended a Kahr arms pistol.  I actually went to go check out the Glock 26 and it just felt way too fat in my hand.  Two wide for a comfortable IWB hoster IMO.  I immediately knew that I wouldn't carry it very often.  

Low and behold, the guy behind the counter yanks out a Kahr PW9. LOVED it.  Felt great in the hand and loved the balance.  It's a 7+1 but with the stacked mag, it's nice and thin. 

Went on line to research and found the PM9 as well.  Liked that a lot, but there were some complaints re. fit and finish and FTE problems.  More so than with the PW9.  I also liked the larger grip of the PW9....don't have to find a spot for the pinkie.  

So I am anxiously awaiting arrival of my PW9.  

I might end up getting a wheel gun just for fun since I saved some money by not buying the Glock.  

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Glad you have had good luck with the PM9.  I have heard Kahrs really need about 200 rounds through 'em before they are broken in. How many do you have through yours thus far?



Awesome - I think you'll be very happy with your new PW9!

I've had my PM9 for a couple of years now and while I don't know exactly how many rounds I've fired through it, I'm sure it's close to, if not over 1000. I take good care of it and don't use cheap ammo and I've never had a single issue but I still would definitely advise you to take the break-in period recoomendation seriously. A friend of a friend had one that he had to send back to Kahr within the break-in period and he got it back in 2 weeks ... hasn't had a problem since.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TheBlancoPirate:

I carry all the time. (when home in Texas).  I carry a Colt Python with a 2.5"bbl. in .357 Mag. I own several auto-loaders but as I have a large penis I do not need to pack 15+ rounds in my gun to make me feel like a man. If you cannot resolve it in 6. Then you need more range time.

IMO, people should carry the biggest size gun with the most ammo they can comfortably conceal with whatever they are wearing at the time.  I’ve never heard of anyone in gunfight saying afterwards that they wished they had a smaller gun.

Carrying a gun has nothing to do with dick size or feeling like a man.  It has to do with giving yourself the best chance of coming out on top if, God forbid, you should have to use your weapon to defend yourself and/or your family.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

IMO, people should carry the biggest size gun with the most ammo they can comfortably conceal with whatever they are wearing at the time.  I’ve never heard of anyone in gunfight saying afterwards that they wished they had a smaller gun.

Carrying a gun has nothing to do with dick size or feeling like a man.  It has to do with giving yourself the best chance of coming out on top if, God forbid, you should have to use your weapon to defend yourself and/or your family.

 



Wow, this is fucking crazy!! Not you being crazy shooter, but the fact it is that easy to carry where you are. I was in the military for 7 years up here in Canada (two terms in afgan) and sometimes I miss firing and have thought of buying something for home and range use. But to actually carry is fucked up!!!! To the gym???? lmao!! Shooter again, not saying you're crazy but man your system is fucked! No wonder USA has so many needless deaths!!! You get trigger happy people that get scared shitless and bring out the guns or even worse in a possible skirmish a retard grabs it from you. I'm sure are very responsible along with Hutch and would hope most people in this thread are but just the fact it is that easy to purchase and take to the gym legally??????!!!!!! That is fuckng crazy!! God bless Canada!!
 
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carrying a concealed weapon is probably the dumbest thing anyone can do, unless by concealed you mean in your hand, heres why, if you are walking to the corner store and some scumbag decides hes going to rob you, what are the chances hes going to announce it first? odds ar hes going to walk up to you in a non threatening manner stick a gun in your face and demand EVERYTHING in your pocket, including your gun.
now i have no problem with wanting to own a gun for protection, but keep it in the house, carrying it with you is selfish, for if you are walking around with the gun in your pocket and someone breaks into your house while your wife and children are home, how much protection are you affording them?

 
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carrying a concealed weapon is probably the dumbest thing anyone can do, unless by concealed you mean in your hand, heres why, if you are walking to the corner store and some scumbag decides hes going to rob you, what are the chances hes going to announce it first? odds ar hes going to walk up to you in a non threatening manner stick a gun in your face and demand EVERYTHING in your pocket, including your gun.
now i have no problem with wanting to own a gun for protection, but keep it in the house, carrying it with you is selfish, for if you are walking around with the gun in your pocket and someone breaks into your house while your wife and children are home, how much protection are you affording them?



Yes I agree completely. Gun stays in the home period!! Or taken on a direct route to the range as we did when I was in the military years back.

"Take it to the gym?" Holy fuck are you kidding me? What kind of country allows this? Too many things can go wrong! I know you are prolly a stand up guy shooter/other people in this forum but what if someone else finds it, someone robs your gym locker, it gets turned on you cause you had it for protection, but then pulling it out your balls shrink, mistakes happen like safety isn't on, etc, etc. No good comes of this. I understand people want to protect themselves! But everyone carrying a gun is the last way to do. Trust me, I just got back from afghan where people all over have guns. Nothing good comes from it!
 
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Ps. I think Shooter is right and the Glocks are a sure fire bet! Great gun!!
 
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Wow, this is fucking crazy!! Not you being crazy shooter, but the fact it is that easy to carry where you are. I was in the military for 7 years up here in Canada (two terms in afgan) and sometimes I miss firing and have thought of buying something for home and range use. But to actually carry is fucked up!!!! To the gym???? lmao!! Shooter again, not saying you're crazy but man your system is fucked! No wonder USA has so many needless deaths!!! You get trigger happy people that get scared shitless and bring out the guns or even worse in a possible skirmish a retard grabs it from you. I'm sure are very responsible along with Hutch and would hope most people in this thread are but just the fact it is that easy to purchase and take to the gym legally??????!!!!!! That is fuckng crazy!! God bless Canada!!

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

It’s a beautiful thing.

As for how “fucked up” it is to carry at the gym: I wonder if any of these people wish they had carried a gun to the gym and had the knowledge of how to properly use it.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by tmstr929:

carrying a concealed weapon is probably the dumbest thing anyone can do, unless by concealed you mean in your hand, heres why, if you are walking to the corner store and some scumbag decides hes going to rob you, what are the chances hes going to announce it first? odds ar hes going to walk up to you in a non threatening manner stick a gun in your face and demand EVERYTHING in your pocket, including your gun.
now i have no problem with wanting to own a gun for protection, but keep it in the house, carrying it with you is selfish, for if you are walking around with the gun in your pocket and someone breaks into your house while your wife and children are home, how much protection are you affording them?


One of the most idiotic posts ever.  

If some moron pulls a gun on me and demands my wallet, I give it to them.  I'm not going to reach for my gun if someone has a gun in my face.  If they want to shoot me, they are going to shoot me.  

But if I'm in a convenience store grabbing a pop and some idiot comes in and holds up the place, I am running for the rear exit or the back room and pulling my gun.  If I'm huddled in a corner and that idiot comes around the corner with his gun, I'm unloading. 

Carrying a gun guarantees NOTHING.  It is very possible you might not be able to pull it when needed.  But if you DO have an opportunity to defend yourself and your life is in danger, I'll take my chances.  

People are so misinformed.  How many stories do you hear about people who carry guns who screw up and get themselves killed?  Almost NONE.  

As for home defense, it's pretty simple.  IF you hear someone in your home, you grab your gun and get as far away as possible.  If you don't hear them before they show up at your bed, you take your chances. But I'd rather be in a corner with a gun as opposed to in a corner without a gun.  





 
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Quote Originally Posted by tmstr929:

carrying a concealed weapon is probably the dumbest thing anyone can do, unless by concealed you mean in your hand, heres why, if you are walking to the corner store and some scumbag decides hes going to rob you, what are the chances hes going to announce it first? odds ar hes going to walk up to you in a non threatening manner stick a gun in your face and demand EVERYTHING in your pocket, including your gun.
now i have no problem with wanting to own a gun for protection, but keep it in the house, carrying it with you is selfish, for if you are walking around with the gun in your pocket and someone breaks into your house while your wife and children are home, how much protection are you affording them?

Just because you don’t take the protection of your family seriously doesn’t mean that others who do are dumb or do dumb things.

“if you are walking to the corner store and some scumbag decides hes going to rob you, what are the chances hes going to announce it first? odds ar hes going to walk up to you in a non threatening manner stick a gun in your face and demand EVERYTHING in your pocket, including your gun.”

What’s your point? Unless you are the Bruce Lee wannabe from the first page you give him whatever he wants in that situation.

What ignorant people don’t realize is that carrying a gun doesn’t mean you use it at the first sign of danger.  It is simply another tool you can use to give yourself and your family the best chance of survival.

If someone has a gun pointed in your face and demands your wallet = give him your wallet.

If someone walking towards you pulls a knife 10+ yards away = pull your gun and take it from there.

Again, it’s just about giving yourself and your family the best chance of survival.  Just because that might not be something you care about doesn’t mean others shouldn’t be allowed to protect their loved ones.

 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

It’s a beautiful thing.

As for how “fucked up” it is to carry at the gym: I wonder if any of these people wish they had carried a gun to the gym and had the knowledge of how to properly use it.

 



I know, but still you cannot justify that. So you think it would be better that every person in the gym you were at or where the murder happened had a pistol on them? I can understand you feel the need to protect but for christ's sake dude, maybe you should get the fuck outta where you live then. A majority of people in our city don't even lock doors at night. A gun? Probably 1 in 200-300 families have one if even that many!

The fact that you would consider it better to "protect yourself" is understandable but at what cost? By your theory everyone carries a gun around? 75 people in the gym and say 30 people that have guns? That is "fucked up" shooter!! Not far off from being in afghan dude! Actually that would be exactly like afghan. Spend some time there and you would reconsider. With guns popping up everywhere people are always on edge and afraid. It turns into mass killings. Heated arguments then become murders or what happens when cops arrive? Shootouts with them? Where is the authority anymore? Keep the guns in your house or you have no one but yourself to blame for the way America is and this ridiculous state of Gun control.

Problem is everyone isn't like you and would be inclined to use it for WAY TOO MANY THINGS THAT ARE HARMFUL NOT PROTECTION!
 
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One of the most idiotic posts ever.  

If some moron pulls a gun on me and demands my wallet, I give it to them.  I'm not going to reach for my gun if someone has a gun in my face.  If they want to shoot me, they are going to shoot me.  

But if I'm in a convenience store grabbing a pop and some idiot comes in and holds up the place, I am running for the rear exit or the back room and pulling my gun.  If I'm huddled in a corner and that idiot comes around the corner with his gun, I'm unloading. 

Carrying a gun guarantees NOTHING.  It is very possible you might not be able to pull it when needed.  But if you DO have an opportunity to defend yourself and your life is in danger, I'll take my chances.  

People are so misinformed.  How many stories do you hear about people who carry guns who screw up and get themselves killed?  Almost NONE.  

As for home defense, it's pretty simple.  IF you hear someone in your home, you grab your gun and get as far away as possible.  If you don't hear them before they show up at your bed, you take your chances. But I'd rather be in a corner with a gun as opposed to in a corner without a gun.  







Yes true Hutch I agree with your posts however you can't expect everyone to handle having a gun on them to be like that. That is more idiotic then that guys post! You and shooter are prolly great guys but do you trust everyone out there they allow to have a gun to make decisions the two of you two would? Not a chance.
 
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Yes true Hutch I agree with your posts however you can't expect everyone to handle having a gun on them to be like that. That is more idiotic then that guys post! You and shooter are prolly great guys but do you trust everyone out there they allow to have a gun to make decisions the two of you two would? Not a chance.

Unfortunately, you can't legislate stupidity.  If someone wants to be a hero and try to "out-draw" someone, then that is their right.  

Almost everyone who conceals and carries a gun for their personal protection does not go looking for trouble. 

You give shooter a hard time for bringing a gun to the gym.  What if some crazy bastard walks in and starts killing people.  He takes cover and at least he can defend himself.  WTF is wrong with that?

How many people would have been saved if the teachers at Columbine were allowed to carry a gun????????


 
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Problem is everyone isn't like you and would be inclined to use it for WAY TOO MANY THINGS THAT ARE HARMFUL NOT PROTECTION!
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Yeah, those are the BAD people most are trying to avoid and protect themselves from.  The responsible gun owners don't use a gun for harmful purposes.  
 
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how many times in your life have you been in a store while it was being robbed, 0 ?, how many times in your life has someone broke into your house while you were sleeping? 0 ?, what need do you have for carrying a gun? 0!
by your own admission your a coward who in the face of danger will "run and hide in a corner" and carrying a gun might give you some false bravado , do yourself a favor and get one that wont rust easilly, because you'll be pissing all over that thing if you're put in a bad situation
One of the most idiotic posts ever.  

If some moron pulls a gun on me and demands my wallet, I give it to them.  I'm not going to reach for my gun if someone has a gun in my face.  If they want to shoot me, they are going to shoot me.  

But if I'm in a convenience store grabbing a pop and some idiot comes in and holds up the place, I am running for the rear exit or the back room and pulling my gun.  If I'm huddled in a corner and that idiot comes around the corner with his gun, I'm unloading. 

Carrying a gun guarantees NOTHING.  It is very possible you might not be able to pull it when needed.  But if you DO have an opportunity to defend yourself and your life is in danger, I'll take my chances.  

People are so misinformed.  How many stories do you hear about people who carry guns who screw up and get themselves killed?  Almost NONE.  

As for home defense, it's pretty simple.  IF you hear someone in your home, you grab your gun and get as far away as possible.  If you don't hear them before they show up at your bed, you take your chances. But I'd rather be in a corner with a gun as opposed to in a corner without a gun.  





 
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Yes I agree completely. Gun stays in the home period!! Or taken on a direct route to the range as we did when I was in the military years back.

"Take it to the gym?" Holy fuck are you kidding me? What kind of country allows this? Too many things can go wrong! I know you are prolly a stand up guy shooter/other people in this forum but what if someone else finds it, someone robs your gym locker, it gets turned on you cause you had it for protection, but then pulling it out your balls shrink, mistakes happen like safety isn't on, etc, etc. No good comes of this. I understand people want to protect themselves! But everyone carrying a gun is the last way to do. Trust me, I just got back from afghan where people all over have guns. Nothing good comes from it!

“Take it to the gym? Holy fuck are you kidding me?”

Nope. I am not.  It’s perfectly legal.  And I bet the people that got shot at LA Fitness (which I happen to work out at) wish they had exercised that right.

“What kind of country allows this?”

The greatest country in recorded history.

“Too many things can go wrong!”

Too many things can go wrong regardless of what you do. It’s all about giving yourself the best chance of survival.

“what if someone else finds it, someone robs your gym locker”

It would be kind of hard to find it in my locker and steal it when it’s in my pocket.

“it gets turned on you”

If I ever had to pull my gun at the gym it’s because of something like someone shooting up the place or someone coming at me with a knife.  In either event someone talking my mouse gun from me isn’t exactly at the top of my list of concerns.

“then pulling it out your balls shrink”

It didn’t happen the first time. I don’t see why it would the second.

“mistakes happen like safety isn't on”

My mouse gun (and almost all of them) doesn’t have a safety.

 

 
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And the bad people are going to carry a gun whether it's illegal or not.  It's the good guys that carry responsibly.  Do you realize how baseless your argument is?
 
 
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If I ever had to pull my gun at the gym it’s because of something like someone shooting up the place or someone coming at me with a knife.
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I don't know why people think that folks who carry guns want to kill everyone in sight.  Who goes looking for trouble?  The BAD guys who don't care about the laws. 

My mouse gun (and almost all of them) doesn’t have a safety.
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There is a better chance you get in an accident driving home than a hand gun going off because it doesn't have a safety.  All these morons think that every gun has a hair trigger.  Ignorance is bliss I guess.  



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