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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2016 - 10:25 AM ET #1

    https://cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/evolution-just-got-harder-defend
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    https://cnsnews.com/commentary/eric-metaxas/evolution-just-got-harder-defend
     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2016 - 9:23 AM ET #2

    Hmmmm interesting read. But as what the article says, "There’s more than one trade that deals in assumptions"
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    Hmmmm interesting read. But as what the article says, "There’s more than one trade that deals in assumptions"
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2016 - 1:58 AM ET #3

    If you don't believe in evolution, then go full wacko - stop taking all of the prescription drugs that were developed based on modern science. Good luck with that!
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    If you don't believe in evolution, then go full wacko - stop taking all of the prescription drugs that were developed based on modern science. Good luck with that!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2016 - 9:43 AM ET #4

    Say basis of evolution that we humans top of the pinicle for land animals became upright stand on two legs manipulating the environment with tools was indeed evolution among mama's to primates to homoneanderthal to homosepian. Why would it not have taken within reptile or bird populations.
    .... or within another gene of mammals....
    Evolution seems to have real problem with how a fish became a reptile and hence the leap from reptile to mammal yet we understand that a clear division between the dinosaur and the mammals.
    On a contended issue of the infamous missing link.
    Evolution still can't account for what made the inorganic cosmos to then how the orginal egg was produced from a infinite array of what @ctually
    Started life from the lifeless debris left behind after the last big bang.
    Yet the Bible explains this big bang event so clearly
    Gen1 1 and God said let there be light and there was.
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    Say basis of evolution that we humans top of the pinicle for land animals became upright stand on two legs manipulating the environment with tools was indeed evolution among mama's to primates to homoneanderthal to homosepian. Why would it not have taken within reptile or bird populations.
    .... or within another gene of mammals....
    Evolution seems to have real problem with how a fish became a reptile and hence the leap from reptile to mammal yet we understand that a clear division between the dinosaur and the mammals.
    On a contended issue of the infamous missing link.
    Evolution still can't account for what made the inorganic cosmos to then how the orginal egg was produced from a infinite array of what @ctually
    Started life from the lifeless debris left behind after the last big bang.
    Yet the Bible explains this big bang event so clearly
    Gen1 1 and God said let there be light and there was.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2016 - 12:23 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    There is no debate. Humans are continuing to evolve today.
    not if you're black
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    There is no debate. Humans are continuing to evolve today.
    not if you're black
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2016 - 6:53 PM ET #6

    the milky way galaxy is 180 million light years from one end to the other. And that's just one galaxy among several others 100x larger than that.
    God picked earth.
    Good + Santa claus + tooth fairy = for children and irrational delusional adults.

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    the milky way galaxy is 180 million light years from one end to the other. And that's just one galaxy among several others 100x larger than that.
    God picked earth.
    Good + Santa claus + tooth fairy = for children and irrational delusional adults.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2016 - 7:58 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    There is no debate. Humans are continuing to evolve today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovak:

    There is no debate. Humans are continuing to evolve today.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2016 - 11:33 PM ET #8

    Creation FTW!
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    Creation FTW!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2016 - 10:40 PM ET #9

    Earths. Our nieboring has a planet with liquid water. As does a moon on Saturn and Mars they found a spring of saline water. The nieboring star will be visible as it is only 4 light years from here. Next inhabitable planet is geliese 531 c as it's about 16 light years from here. Christ spoke of a war in heaven we might be the only survivors in flesh from that conflict. I am unaware. But I believe others survived in our cosmos.
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    Earths. Our nieboring has a planet with liquid water. As does a moon on Saturn and Mars they found a spring of saline water. The nieboring star will be visible as it is only 4 light years from here. Next inhabitable planet is geliese 531 c as it's about 16 light years from here. Christ spoke of a war in heaven we might be the only survivors in flesh from that conflict. I am unaware. But I believe others survived in our cosmos.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 7:12 AM ET #10

    If younbelieve in creationism then who created the creator?
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    If younbelieve in creationism then who created the creator?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 11:29 AM ET #11

    We did by manifested intellegence we became aware of the master builder. To think thus for I am. Souls are eternal weigh aprox. 28 grams.
    Our bodies are temporal have about a 100 year shelf life. I believe in God for I am aware of god.
    In physical realm everything decays without matinance every structure every body . This unseen maintainer as you will is to me God.
    Are there generations of God's it is plausible for why a son? If not in turn become a father as well.
    Dr chu a leading physicist explains that the entire universe has been recycled around 6 times.
    The half alien Jesup explains a new heaven and a new earth. 2nd Peter explains what happens to this one.
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    We did by manifested intellegence we became aware of the master builder. To think thus for I am. Souls are eternal weigh aprox. 28 grams.
    Our bodies are temporal have about a 100 year shelf life. I believe in God for I am aware of god.
    In physical realm everything decays without matinance every structure every body . This unseen maintainer as you will is to me God.
    Are there generations of God's it is plausible for why a son? If not in turn become a father as well.
    Dr chu a leading physicist explains that the entire universe has been recycled around 6 times.
    The half alien Jesup explains a new heaven and a new earth. 2nd Peter explains what happens to this one.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 12:00 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Earths. Our nieboring has a planet with liquid water. As does a moon on Saturn and Mars they found a spring of saline water. The nieboring star will be visible as it is only 4 light years from here. Next inhabitable planet is geliese 531 c as it's about 16 light years from here. Christ spoke of a war in heaven we might be the only survivors in flesh from that conflict. I am unaware. But I believe others survived in our cosmos.

    Your posts are "nieboring"

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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Earths. Our nieboring has a planet with liquid water. As does a moon on Saturn and Mars they found a spring of saline water. The nieboring star will be visible as it is only 4 light years from here. Next inhabitable planet is geliese 531 c as it's about 16 light years from here. Christ spoke of a war in heaven we might be the only survivors in flesh from that conflict. I am unaware. But I believe others survived in our cosmos.

    Your posts are "nieboring"

     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 12:51 PM ET #13

    Steven Hawkins also warns not to contact aliens. His sumation is if an advanced specie from a distant galaxy arrived we be viewed as bacteria. Much as the native American was viewed by an advanced culture europeans. Thus attaching species that can place the entire earth in the trunk of their craft might not nessarily be such a wise choice.
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    Steven Hawkins also warns not to contact aliens. His sumation is if an advanced specie from a distant galaxy arrived we be viewed as bacteria. Much as the native American was viewed by an advanced culture europeans. Thus attaching species that can place the entire earth in the trunk of their craft might not nessarily be such a wise choice.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 25, 2016 - 9:56 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

    If younbelieve in creationism then who created the creator?

    No one.  The creator is an eternal being.  From everlasting to everlasting.  The alpha and the omega.  The great I Am.

    If you believe in evolution, then what did we evolve from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

    If younbelieve in creationism then who created the creator?

    No one.  The creator is an eternal being.  From everlasting to everlasting.  The alpha and the omega.  The great I Am.

    If you believe in evolution, then what did we evolve from?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2016 - 9:58 AM ET #15

    No one doubts micro evolution.

    The issue is with macro evolution.

    The problem here is, the mechanism, ie, natural selection doesn't effectively have the "horse power" to explain the diversity of life.

    We see this in the results of fruit flies, malaria and HIV which are very very underwhelming.

    Regardless, not many Christians take a literal interpretation of Genesis.

    This is not in the face of modern science. The early church fathers such as St Augustine didnt take a literal interpretation of Genesis and this was some 1800 years ago....obviously well well before Darwin.
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    No one doubts micro evolution.

    The issue is with macro evolution.

    The problem here is, the mechanism, ie, natural selection doesn't effectively have the "horse power" to explain the diversity of life.

    We see this in the results of fruit flies, malaria and HIV which are very very underwhelming.

    Regardless, not many Christians take a literal interpretation of Genesis.

    This is not in the face of modern science. The early church fathers such as St Augustine didnt take a literal interpretation of Genesis and this was some 1800 years ago....obviously well well before Darwin.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 27, 2016 - 9:59 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by chilitokid:

    If younbelieve in creationism then who created the creator?

    No one...Only everything that begins to exist has a cause. God is eternal/infinite.

    If something is eternal then it never had a beginning, if it never had a beginning, then it never had a cause.
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    If younbelieve in creationism then who created the creator?

    No one...Only everything that begins to exist has a cause. God is eternal/infinite.

    If something is eternal then it never had a beginning, if it never had a beginning, then it never had a cause.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    No one...Only everything that begins to exist has a cause. God is eternal/infinite.

    If something is eternal then it never had a beginning, if it never had a beginning, then it never had a cause.

    Please offer some proof of a god first before you make such claims...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    No one...Only everything that begins to exist has a cause. God is eternal/infinite.

    If something is eternal then it never had a beginning, if it never had a beginning, then it never had a cause.

    Please offer some proof of a god first before you make such claims...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 3:58 AM ET #18

    People like to think they are special and they also fear death. That's why we have religion. All living things are just a bunch of chemicals-matter/energy that has evolved over time. Plain and simple, there are no gods. It is also really F upped! that so millions and millions of people have been terrorized, tortured and killed based on something that exists only in our minds. Religion is the root of all evil and needs to be eradicated! On the other hand I won't be around in another 60 years so, why the F should I care? 
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    People like to think they are special and they also fear death. That's why we have religion. All living things are just a bunch of chemicals-matter/energy that has evolved over time. Plain and simple, there are no gods. It is also really F upped! that so millions and millions of people have been terrorized, tortured and killed based on something that exists only in our minds. Religion is the root of all evil and needs to be eradicated! On the other hand I won't be around in another 60 years so, why the F should I care? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 2, 2016 - 4:00 AM ET #19

    Evolution theory is about how life forms change over time.  It really doesn't try to explain the origin of life.  Since evolution is science, it is taught in schools.  However creationism is religion and so it is taught in churches.
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    Evolution theory is about how life forms change over time.  It really doesn't try to explain the origin of life.  Since evolution is science, it is taught in schools.  However creationism is religion and so it is taught in churches.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 7:42 AM ET #20

    Guess I have seen too many unexplained phenomena . Too believe it was all created "naturally" there is nothing natural in creation. Decay is very natural objects s
    Ceasing to move do to resistance is natural.
    Living understanding adapting is not at all natural.
    Loving unconsitionally is not natural or even rational yet with the understanding and awareness of god it.can become.natural and.logical.
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    Guess I have seen too many unexplained phenomena . Too believe it was all created "naturally" there is nothing natural in creation. Decay is very natural objects s
    Ceasing to move do to resistance is natural.
    Living understanding adapting is not at all natural.
    Loving unconsitionally is not natural or even rational yet with the understanding and awareness of god it.can become.natural and.logical.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 9:38 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    Please offer some proof of a god first before you make such claims...

    What do you want me to prove? That God is eternal?
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    Please offer some proof of a god first before you make such claims...

    What do you want me to prove? That God is eternal?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 9:42 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    People like to think they are special and they also fear death. That's why we have religion. All living things are just a bunch of chemicals-matter/energy that has evolved over time. Plain and simple, there are no gods. It is also really F upped! that so millions and millions of people have been terrorized, tortured and killed based on something that exists only in our minds. Religion is the root of all evil and needs to be eradicated! On the other hand I won't be around in another 60 years so, why the F should I care? 

    Funny this....if God doesnt exist, then the things you are complaining about in your post, ie, tortured, killed and terrorized are not wrong.

    In the absence of God, there is no objective morality. If objective morality doesnt exist, then there is no moral rights and wrongs. Things like rape, torture, racism etc are not wrong. They are merely relative, which therefore doesnt make it wrong.

    What ISIS do is not wrong, going around killing blacks because of there skin colour is not wrong etc etc.

    Any time you make a claim to moral facts, ie, racism is wrong or murder is wrong, then you are effectively confirming objective morality, therefore affirming Gods existence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    People like to think they are special and they also fear death. That's why we have religion. All living things are just a bunch of chemicals-matter/energy that has evolved over time. Plain and simple, there are no gods. It is also really F upped! that so millions and millions of people have been terrorized, tortured and killed based on something that exists only in our minds. Religion is the root of all evil and needs to be eradicated! On the other hand I won't be around in another 60 years so, why the F should I care? 

    Funny this....if God doesnt exist, then the things you are complaining about in your post, ie, tortured, killed and terrorized are not wrong.

    In the absence of God, there is no objective morality. If objective morality doesnt exist, then there is no moral rights and wrongs. Things like rape, torture, racism etc are not wrong. They are merely relative, which therefore doesnt make it wrong.

    What ISIS do is not wrong, going around killing blacks because of there skin colour is not wrong etc etc.

    Any time you make a claim to moral facts, ie, racism is wrong or murder is wrong, then you are effectively confirming objective morality, therefore affirming Gods existence.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 9:45 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Evolution theory is about how life forms change over time.  It really doesn't try to explain the origin of life.  Since evolution is science, it is taught in schools.  However creationism is religion and so it is taught in churches.

    The issue here is not evolution, rather the mechanism to explain the diversity of life forms wee see. The mechanisms of natural selection and adaptations dont have the necessary "horsepower" to explain the diversity of life forms. Experiments of fruit flies, HIV and malaria show this. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    Evolution theory is about how life forms change over time.  It really doesn't try to explain the origin of life.  Since evolution is science, it is taught in schools.  However creationism is religion and so it is taught in churches.

    The issue here is not evolution, rather the mechanism to explain the diversity of life forms wee see. The mechanisms of natural selection and adaptations dont have the necessary "horsepower" to explain the diversity of life forms. Experiments of fruit flies, HIV and malaria show this. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 9:50 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    People like to think they are special and they also fear death. That's why we have religion. All living things are just a bunch of chemicals-matter/energy that has evolved over time. Plain and simple, there are no gods. It is also really F upped! that so millions and millions of people have been terrorized, tortured and killed based on something that exists only in our minds. Religion is the root of all evil and needs to be eradicated! On the other hand I won't be around in another 60 years so, why the F should I care? 

    Also i forgot to add, if we are merely a bunch of chemicals, then there is no such thing as evil. Evil is just a man made construct that doesnt really exist.

    Your complaints dont follow from your world view.

    Your complaints are actually consistent with Theism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raiderpug:

    People like to think they are special and they also fear death. That's why we have religion. All living things are just a bunch of chemicals-matter/energy that has evolved over time. Plain and simple, there are no gods. It is also really F upped! that so millions and millions of people have been terrorized, tortured and killed based on something that exists only in our minds. Religion is the root of all evil and needs to be eradicated! On the other hand I won't be around in another 60 years so, why the F should I care? 

    Also i forgot to add, if we are merely a bunch of chemicals, then there is no such thing as evil. Evil is just a man made construct that doesnt really exist.

    Your complaints dont follow from your world view.

    Your complaints are actually consistent with Theism.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 3, 2016 - 10:31 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    The issue here is not evolution, rather the mechanism to explain the diversity of life forms wee see. The mechanisms of natural selection and adaptations dont have the necessary "horsepower" to explain the diversity of life forms. Experiments of fruit flies, HIV and malaria show this. 

    You are just making up stuff now.  Why can't you be happy with your religion and leave science to the scientists? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:


    The issue here is not evolution, rather the mechanism to explain the diversity of life forms wee see. The mechanisms of natural selection and adaptations dont have the necessary "horsepower" to explain the diversity of life forms. Experiments of fruit flies, HIV and malaria show this. 

    You are just making up stuff now.  Why can't you be happy with your religion and leave science to the scientists? 
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