I'd rather hire a 24 year old with 4-5 years on the job experience than a person the same age who has a piece of paper that says he/she should know how to do something.
So would I don't get me wrong experience trumps book learning any day, but how do you get that experience without a chance?
Would you hire a 24 year old that has only worked at McDonald over a 24 year old with a piece of paper?
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:
If it were a necessity it would be free
I'd rather hire a 24 year old with 4-5 years on the job experience than a person the same age who has a piece of paper that says he/she should know how to do something.
So would I don't get me wrong experience trumps book learning any day, but how do you get that experience without a chance?
Would you hire a 24 year old that has only worked at McDonald over a 24 year old with a piece of paper?
or maybe you're an idiot and shouldn't have had kids
Don't feel need to defend self on a message forum, especially against someone who uses derogatory terms when engaging in discussion. You sir, can suck my balls.
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Quote Originally Posted by Big_ROn:
or maybe you're an idiot and shouldn't have had kids
Don't feel need to defend self on a message forum, especially against someone who uses derogatory terms when engaging in discussion. You sir, can suck my balls.
I'm 31 and been on my own since 16.. Its all about Life.. Half of you guys are still at home with your mommy and daddy in their late 20's yea you might have a car and nice stuff BUT THATS ONLY CAUSE YOU DONT PAY RENT.. Life will always be rough unless you were born RICH,, But part of becoming a MAN is Exploring life on your own and see what its all about and what paths will you choose on your OWN. without mommy n daddy in your ear. I know i went thu my rough times and life is still not easy. didnt go to college neither Plus got a Federal charge at 19. You live and you learn.. i'm still on my own now. working full time. got a 2010 Honda civic lx sport bought 13gs cash and still am breathing. Dont get me wrong. if i stayed with my parents i would have alot more money, better car and easier life. But also wouldnt of seen what life offers when you want to spread your wings.. ALL I'M saying if your OVER 25 and your MALE that is HEALTHY. you should not be LIVING AT HOME UNLESS YOUR HELPING PAY BILLS. your not cool end of the day if you have all the nice clothes, shoes and car.. when YOU LIVE AT HOME WITH YOUR PARENTS... Go be INDEPENDANT. and live life on your own. thats what being a man is about,,
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I'm 31 and been on my own since 16.. Its all about Life.. Half of you guys are still at home with your mommy and daddy in their late 20's yea you might have a car and nice stuff BUT THATS ONLY CAUSE YOU DONT PAY RENT.. Life will always be rough unless you were born RICH,, But part of becoming a MAN is Exploring life on your own and see what its all about and what paths will you choose on your OWN. without mommy n daddy in your ear. I know i went thu my rough times and life is still not easy. didnt go to college neither Plus got a Federal charge at 19. You live and you learn.. i'm still on my own now. working full time. got a 2010 Honda civic lx sport bought 13gs cash and still am breathing. Dont get me wrong. if i stayed with my parents i would have alot more money, better car and easier life. But also wouldnt of seen what life offers when you want to spread your wings.. ALL I'M saying if your OVER 25 and your MALE that is HEALTHY. you should not be LIVING AT HOME UNLESS YOUR HELPING PAY BILLS. your not cool end of the day if you have all the nice clothes, shoes and car.. when YOU LIVE AT HOME WITH YOUR PARENTS... Go be INDEPENDANT. and live life on your own. thats what being a man is about,,
I agree with everything said above. Beatthebooks may get some backlash for pulling out the man card, but he's absolutely right.
Especially on the point regarding material possessions. That to me is the worst issue of all.
One of my wife's best friends was this way. About 5 years ago, her car died on her and she couldn't afford the repairs. She scrapped it. At the time she was 25 and fresh out of a relationship. Lease ended and she moved back home "to save money." Goal was a new car. She worked a bartending job in which the pay was good. Every night, she would go out to a bar after work and spend her money. She even splurged on club level season tickets to the Dolphins. For years she lived this irresponsible lifestyle. Still no car. She literally drank her 20s away and has nothing to show for it. She just finally moved out, still no car, and in with her lesbian lover. Drank it all away. There are many stories like these.
There are of course cases when maybe you're there helping ailing parents or younger siblings, fresh out of college, or after a financial ruin (job loss, medical, etc.,) That is all normal life.
25, able bodied, and still living at home making excuses = not normal and weak.
hey Big Ron, Momma say you need clean out the garage today.
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I agree with everything said above. Beatthebooks may get some backlash for pulling out the man card, but he's absolutely right.
Especially on the point regarding material possessions. That to me is the worst issue of all.
One of my wife's best friends was this way. About 5 years ago, her car died on her and she couldn't afford the repairs. She scrapped it. At the time she was 25 and fresh out of a relationship. Lease ended and she moved back home "to save money." Goal was a new car. She worked a bartending job in which the pay was good. Every night, she would go out to a bar after work and spend her money. She even splurged on club level season tickets to the Dolphins. For years she lived this irresponsible lifestyle. Still no car. She literally drank her 20s away and has nothing to show for it. She just finally moved out, still no car, and in with her lesbian lover. Drank it all away. There are many stories like these.
There are of course cases when maybe you're there helping ailing parents or younger siblings, fresh out of college, or after a financial ruin (job loss, medical, etc.,) That is all normal life.
25, able bodied, and still living at home making excuses = not normal and weak.
hey Big Ron, Momma say you need clean out the garage today.
I'd rather hire a 24 year old with 4-5 years on the job experience than a person the same age who has a piece of paper that says he/she should know how to do something.
Blanket statement and not true in every case. I've hired some morons who had college degrees and no experience. I've also hired some great people who had a degree and no experience. Same thing is true of non-degreed people. I've hired some dogs who can't seem to get over the fact that they don't have a degree (and just assume they are smarter than someone with a degree) and vice versa.
I will tell you that I've found people with degrees GENERALLY have better communication skills (both written and verbal), better organizational skills, and just function more comfortably in a professional environment (they know how to run a meeting....they know how to put together a presentation.....they know how to put together a project plan....etc., etc.).
Doesn't mean non-degreed people can't do it, but they are less effective overall. And I have over 20 hours in Human Resources so I've hired any and all types.
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Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:
If it were a necessity it would be free
I'd rather hire a 24 year old with 4-5 years on the job experience than a person the same age who has a piece of paper that says he/she should know how to do something.
Blanket statement and not true in every case. I've hired some morons who had college degrees and no experience. I've also hired some great people who had a degree and no experience. Same thing is true of non-degreed people. I've hired some dogs who can't seem to get over the fact that they don't have a degree (and just assume they are smarter than someone with a degree) and vice versa.
I will tell you that I've found people with degrees GENERALLY have better communication skills (both written and verbal), better organizational skills, and just function more comfortably in a professional environment (they know how to run a meeting....they know how to put together a presentation.....they know how to put together a project plan....etc., etc.).
Doesn't mean non-degreed people can't do it, but they are less effective overall. And I have over 20 hours in Human Resources so I've hired any and all types.
I agree with everything said above. Beatthebooks may get some backlash for pulling out the man card, but he's absolutely right.
Especially on the point regarding material possessions. That to me is the worst issue of all.
One of my wife's best friends was this way. About 5 years ago, her car died on her and she couldn't afford the repairs. She scrapped it. At the time she was 25 and fresh out of a relationship. Lease ended and she moved back home "to save money." Goal was a new car. She worked a bartending job in which the pay was good. Every night, she would go out to a bar after work and spend her money. She even splurged on club level season tickets to the Dolphins. For years she lived this irresponsible lifestyle. Still no car. She literally drank her 20s away and has nothing to show for it. She just finally moved out, still no car, and in with her lesbian lover. Drank it all away. There are many stories like these.
There are of course cases when maybe you're there helping ailing parents or younger siblings, fresh out of college, or after a financial ruin (job loss, medical, etc.,) That is all normal life.
25, able bodied, and still living at home making excuses = not normal and weak.
hey Big Ron, Momma say you need clean out the garage today.
How do these two chicks look? I got spare rooms in my home and cars to share.
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Quote Originally Posted by bizkilla:
I agree with everything said above. Beatthebooks may get some backlash for pulling out the man card, but he's absolutely right.
Especially on the point regarding material possessions. That to me is the worst issue of all.
One of my wife's best friends was this way. About 5 years ago, her car died on her and she couldn't afford the repairs. She scrapped it. At the time she was 25 and fresh out of a relationship. Lease ended and she moved back home "to save money." Goal was a new car. She worked a bartending job in which the pay was good. Every night, she would go out to a bar after work and spend her money. She even splurged on club level season tickets to the Dolphins. For years she lived this irresponsible lifestyle. Still no car. She literally drank her 20s away and has nothing to show for it. She just finally moved out, still no car, and in with her lesbian lover. Drank it all away. There are many stories like these.
There are of course cases when maybe you're there helping ailing parents or younger siblings, fresh out of college, or after a financial ruin (job loss, medical, etc.,) That is all normal life.
25, able bodied, and still living at home making excuses = not normal and weak.
hey Big Ron, Momma say you need clean out the garage today.
How do these two chicks look? I got spare rooms in my home and cars to share.
Lets not confuse the difference between "living with" and "living off of" family members. If everyone within a household contributes then I dont think therea a problem regardless of age.
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Lets not confuse the difference between "living with" and "living off of" family members. If everyone within a household contributes then I dont think therea a problem regardless of age.
Ill look for a pic. I have one of the one I mentioned, but not the new lover.
I would say the one I mentioned looks exactly like a female version of Clay Mathews. Same facial features and hair. Ive even commented on her resemblance to the famed linebacker. Note to all, women do not like to be compared to linebackers, whether ghey or straight.
Her new lover is grotesque and fat. Again, because were friends we crack jokes. Her last girlfriend was a hot! She mined her and pounced quickly on the day she turned 18. This new one is a significant upgrade and a bit of a bully.
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Ill look for a pic. I have one of the one I mentioned, but not the new lover.
I would say the one I mentioned looks exactly like a female version of Clay Mathews. Same facial features and hair. Ive even commented on her resemblance to the famed linebacker. Note to all, women do not like to be compared to linebackers, whether ghey or straight.
Her new lover is grotesque and fat. Again, because were friends we crack jokes. Her last girlfriend was a hot! She mined her and pounced quickly on the day she turned 18. This new one is a significant upgrade and a bit of a bully.
Back in the parents day a house was about 60k jobs were plentiful now you got 40 year olds managing mcdonalds scraping by. Don't think it is as unacceptable as its made out to be I don't know Im living on my own basically making enough to pay rent and sit around. Almost rather live at home and at least save for a payment on a house.
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Back in the parents day a house was about 60k jobs were plentiful now you got 40 year olds managing mcdonalds scraping by. Don't think it is as unacceptable as its made out to be I don't know Im living on my own basically making enough to pay rent and sit around. Almost rather live at home and at least save for a payment on a house.
Hutch, I'll move to Minnesota if you hire me for a decent job (seriously). Shoot me a PM if you know of anything.
I know of lots of things. But you might not be qualified for any of them. I mainly staff technical positions (drafters, designers, engineers, technicians, IT, etc.). If you have a technical background, I'd be happy to chat.
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Quote Originally Posted by ad1260:
Hutch, I'll move to Minnesota if you hire me for a decent job (seriously). Shoot me a PM if you know of anything.
I know of lots of things. But you might not be qualified for any of them. I mainly staff technical positions (drafters, designers, engineers, technicians, IT, etc.). If you have a technical background, I'd be happy to chat.
Hutch, I'm pretty impressed buddy 20 hours of experience in human resources.
Just joking. What type of company do you work for?
20 years.
I work for a recruiting firm. We specialize in technical positions as I mentioned above. I did about 7 years as an HR Generalist before starting this adventure.
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Quote Originally Posted by bill702:
Hutch, I'm pretty impressed buddy 20 hours of experience in human resources.
Just joking. What type of company do you work for?
20 years.
I work for a recruiting firm. We specialize in technical positions as I mentioned above. I did about 7 years as an HR Generalist before starting this adventure.
So would I don't get me wrong experience trumps book learning any day, but how do you get that experience without a chance?
Would you hire a 24 year old that has only worked at McDonald over a 24 year old with a piece of paper?
Exactly. I've seen a person with 20 years who was OUTSTANDING and better than anyone I've seen with a degree and 5 years. I've also seen a person with a degree and a few years who had WAY more skill than a 20 year person.
There is not "rule" to this sort of thing. Each case needs to be considered on its own merits.
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Quote Originally Posted by bill702:
So would I don't get me wrong experience trumps book learning any day, but how do you get that experience without a chance?
Would you hire a 24 year old that has only worked at McDonald over a 24 year old with a piece of paper?
Exactly. I've seen a person with 20 years who was OUTSTANDING and better than anyone I've seen with a degree and 5 years. I've also seen a person with a degree and a few years who had WAY more skill than a 20 year person.
There is not "rule" to this sort of thing. Each case needs to be considered on its own merits.
I am 33 and if I even thought about living with my parents I would feel like a loser!!!!! If one of my parents got ill and needed help they would move in with me and I would take care of them and the bills I will make sure neither of my parents EVER have to live in a nursing home!!!! Life is a complete circle your parents take care of u when you r born and hopefully raise u the correct way and when they get old and need help you do the same for same!!!! When I go out 4 dinner or drinks with my parents I pick up the tab almost all the time!!!!! If u r n your 30's living at home u r MOST likely a fuckkkking Loser
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I am 33 and if I even thought about living with my parents I would feel like a loser!!!!! If one of my parents got ill and needed help they would move in with me and I would take care of them and the bills I will make sure neither of my parents EVER have to live in a nursing home!!!! Life is a complete circle your parents take care of u when you r born and hopefully raise u the correct way and when they get old and need help you do the same for same!!!! When I go out 4 dinner or drinks with my parents I pick up the tab almost all the time!!!!! If u r n your 30's living at home u r MOST likely a fuckkkking Loser
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or maybe you're an idiot and shouldn't have had kids
get da fk out
(seriously). Shoot me a PM if you know of anything. 
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