More words of wisdom.
My last couple years of college I dated an older woman (she was 5 years older). We had a very good relationship, came very close to being the one. Along the way I befriended her older brother who was 4 years older than her so he had almost a decade on me. To this day we stay in touch (the brother and I). I invite him to my poker games. That girl is still mooching off her parents. She has stayed under either her parents roof or in one of their investment properties her entire life. Has never paid a bill and has a credit card that parents pay. STILL!
The brother is an even sadder case. Claims some sort of disability. On the surface he seems normal, but has a mental disorder. So that's his crutch. He collects welfare and the parents pick up the rest of the tab. He had a job delivering pizza's until the car broke down. Now he gambles or sits at home.
In both of these cases, the parents did those kids a disservice.
I'm not going to lie to you. My mother begged me to come live at home. Explained to me how much I'd be saving on utilities, food, rent, etc., Seemed logical and enticing. I even took her up on it after my lease ended once and after 6 weeks I was right back out. I got a sense of pride writing a check to FPL or paying for cable tv. Being a real man and not mooching off their parents.
As a father, sure I probably wont rush out my kids he day they turn 18. But I would be greatly disappointed having a 24 year old living under my roof. Those are suppose to me MY YEARS. After decades of putting up with children, I should see the fruits of my labor blossom into adults not overgrown children.
More words of wisdom.
My last couple years of college I dated an older woman (she was 5 years older). We had a very good relationship, came very close to being the one. Along the way I befriended her older brother who was 4 years older than her so he had almost a decade on me. To this day we stay in touch (the brother and I). I invite him to my poker games. That girl is still mooching off her parents. She has stayed under either her parents roof or in one of their investment properties her entire life. Has never paid a bill and has a credit card that parents pay. STILL!
The brother is an even sadder case. Claims some sort of disability. On the surface he seems normal, but has a mental disorder. So that's his crutch. He collects welfare and the parents pick up the rest of the tab. He had a job delivering pizza's until the car broke down. Now he gambles or sits at home.
In both of these cases, the parents did those kids a disservice.
I'm not going to lie to you. My mother begged me to come live at home. Explained to me how much I'd be saving on utilities, food, rent, etc., Seemed logical and enticing. I even took her up on it after my lease ended once and after 6 weeks I was right back out. I got a sense of pride writing a check to FPL or paying for cable tv. Being a real man and not mooching off their parents.
As a father, sure I probably wont rush out my kids he day they turn 18. But I would be greatly disappointed having a 24 year old living under my roof. Those are suppose to me MY YEARS. After decades of putting up with children, I should see the fruits of my labor blossom into adults not overgrown children.
By no means am I an authority or have figured something out. Im not here hiding behind my keyboard pointing at Quasi Moto and his hunchback.
My point is to bring to light, in a general discussion forum, to a problem that I feel gets unnoticed in America. Every situation is different. I can sympathize with the young man who graduated college and his waiting tables at a steakhouse. But in his warped mind, he thinks its okay to prolong growing up. Its his life and who knows. Maybe at some point he'll catch a break. Ive had several friends who stayed even past college who have done well for themselves. Some on the other hand have been handicapped.
Here is another specific example. A group of younger adults, about mid 20's are talking around the water cooler. One is showing the other his latest gadget, the newest fancy phone. Now as his boss, I know how much he earns and from hearsay I know he lives at home. This man is 25 years old fcuking around with expensive electronics. That's what is important to him. To have this gadget, which wasn't cheap and his cell phone bill (assuming he pays for it) is through the roof. Meanwhile he lives at home
Am I the only one who see's a problem with this?
By no means am I an authority or have figured something out. Im not here hiding behind my keyboard pointing at Quasi Moto and his hunchback.
My point is to bring to light, in a general discussion forum, to a problem that I feel gets unnoticed in America. Every situation is different. I can sympathize with the young man who graduated college and his waiting tables at a steakhouse. But in his warped mind, he thinks its okay to prolong growing up. Its his life and who knows. Maybe at some point he'll catch a break. Ive had several friends who stayed even past college who have done well for themselves. Some on the other hand have been handicapped.
Here is another specific example. A group of younger adults, about mid 20's are talking around the water cooler. One is showing the other his latest gadget, the newest fancy phone. Now as his boss, I know how much he earns and from hearsay I know he lives at home. This man is 25 years old fcuking around with expensive electronics. That's what is important to him. To have this gadget, which wasn't cheap and his cell phone bill (assuming he pays for it) is through the roof. Meanwhile he lives at home
Am I the only one who see's a problem with this?
My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.
Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.
And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.
My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.
Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.
And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.
My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.
Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.
And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.
My man, and with all due respect and because I like you and your contributions to the forum, until you get one passed the goalie and have to wake up and face responsibility, do not go into discussion about fatherhood. You have no idea and lets leave it at that.
Once you have kids, you put their life and well being above yours. That first year was tough. Cancel that backpacking through Europe trip. Cancel that cross country trip RV trip with your best pals. Kiss your freedom's goodbye. Sacrifice everything. From relationship struggles with your wife to all the bullchit that comes with raising kids. Accept the responsibility and embrace it.
And to me that's okay. But when its all said and done and Ive (hopefully) raised responsible and self sufficient adults. You best damn believe those ARE MY YEARS. The wife and I are suppose to enjoy the empty nest.
It's funny how a little difference in age can change your perspective.
It's funny how a little difference in age can change your perspective.
I barely made it to 17 living with my parents I needed to experience life on my own.
I think where this is becoming more of the norm is the inability for parents to be parents. The kids have had the control for some time now and will only continue to get worse. I'm not saying there is a problem living with your parents as many have good reasons, but at some point you must become a man and make your own rules.
I barely made it to 17 living with my parents I needed to experience life on my own.
I think where this is becoming more of the norm is the inability for parents to be parents. The kids have had the control for some time now and will only continue to get worse. I'm not saying there is a problem living with your parents as many have good reasons, but at some point you must become a man and make your own rules.
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