How do you feel about the war on terror now?

I love reading the allegation that the US started the war on terror for "oil"

Such a silly assertion omits the fact that the war on terror started with boots on the ground in Afghansitan. How much oil does the US get from there again?

Oh wait, none.

Oh, but in a rich bit of silliness we pretend the war on terror is merely Iraq. Of course such a silly assertion omits the fact that  relatively little of America’s imported crude comes from the Middle East in the 1st place. And, the US imports twice as much oil from Venezuela than it does Iraq (the US imports as much oil from Angola as it does Iraq -Iraq only produces around three million barrels a day).

And,  foreign companies like Exxon Mobil, BP, China National Petroleum Corporation and ENI of Italy are all working in contract with the Iraqi government.

Finally, a headline from less than a month ago:

U.S. Oil Production Set to Surpass Imports For First Time in 20 Years

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/03/20/us-oil-production-set-to-surpass-imports-for-first-time-in-20-years

There is a lot of misinformation in this thread.

Asserting that the US engaged in the GWOT for oil is silly and ridiculous.

We have occupied many nations and done a lot of unsavory things to people

Yeah, that rebuilding of Japan & Germany was a total war crime!!!

Pretending that we are saints on the world scene is just as ignorant as pretending we are completely evil.

Sure but I'm not "pretending" we are Saints.

 

For anyone interested here is a look at where the US imports its oil from.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/19/where-the-u-s-gets-its-oil-imports-in-one-map/

You want an eye opener, rent the documentary, "Why We Fight." Provides some scary perspective on the military industrial complex.    

I agree with you that we aren't there just because of the oil and I believed I said it in this thread. However, the oil is one of the reasons definitely even if it's a miniscule reason.I was commenting more towards the holier than thou attitude saying rebuilding Japan and Germany were war crimes. We destroyed them why wouldn't we help rebuild it? It's not like it hasn't benefited us at all. We made Japan the superpower it is today and we benefit from that greatly.

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beyond reasonable doubts
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Poppy    

Its funny how so many stop posting in threads like this when FACTS are revealed.

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You are truly a small-minded individual, probably not very intelligent either.

No one in this thread has asserted that the invasion or Iraq was to steal or redirect their oil supply.

Speaking of facts, it is a fact that the CIA under the Bush administration fabricated intelligence. It is a fact that they layered intelligence in the attempt to attribute false meaning. It is a fact that the Bush administration WILLFULLY MISLEAD the US into a financially crippling conflict.

These are all facts too. You choose to ignore them because it makes your small-minded bigoted life that much easier. Hey you voted for those guys? Those are ur guys right. You're just a conspiracy nut if you think a nation state would use propaganda and willfully mislead the populace, right?

 is a fact that the Bush administration WILLFULLY MISLEAD the US into a financially crippling conflict.

why do we keep starting wars that we can't win?

Stupid. Canada, now that's a war we can handle.

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Of course, you wouldn't understand the concept of plausible deniability; that is no surprise.

Let me explain. Intelligence is like money laundering. If you run it through enough shell companies (intelligence agencies), then you can make intelligence say whatever you desire. Eventually, it will come out clean, brandishing the end user with the comfort and protection of plausible deniability.

This is what enables neo-statist fools like yourself to forever justify the treasonous and genocidal actions of the Bush administration.

Venezuela. Wtf? We could take that place in a hour and they have chiloads of sweet crude.

Stupid.

Uh, it was the official policy of the US government that Saddam had WMD's prior to Bush ever being a candidate for President.

That is a fact.

Also a fact: The Clinton Administration and a bunch of Democrats said Saddam had WMD's (and would use them) prior to Bush ever being a candidate for President.

So what you said is not, indeed, a "fact"

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This is the point where you try to mischaracterize an argument/discussion into something you think you can "win."

Then post rolling head emoticons. It's a tired act that fools no one.

BTW. Are we not controlling Iraq's oil supply at least to some degree? It is not necessary for any supply to be redirected to the US for this to happen. Are they trading it in Euros as planned under Saddam? Are we not protecting the interests of transnational oil interests? We are controlling Iraq's oil supply by simply protecting it.

Here's a nice little article: I dare you to read this and comeback and tell me that we are not controlling Iraq's oil supply.

It was fully nationalized and now it has been pillaged my private firms. We have seized control of their supply for Big Oil. Governments function corporations. Governments are indirectly ran by corporations.

OH, and as to the absurd contention that Bush "fabricated" intelligence, I've always enjoyed this.

MATTHEWS: Let me ask you about-Since you did support the resolution and you did support that ultimate solution to go into combat and to take over that government and occupy that country. Do you think that you, as a United States Senator, got the straight story from the Bush administration on this war? On the need for the war? Did you get the straight story?

EDWARDS: Well, the first thing I should say is I take responsibility for my vote. Period. And I did what I did based upon a belief, Chris, that Saddam Hussein’s potential for getting nuclear capability was what created the threat. That was always the focus of my concern. Still is the focus of my concern.

So did I get misled? No. I didn’t get misled.

MATTHEWS: Did you get an honest reading on the intelligence?

EDWRADS: But now we’re getting to the second part of your question.

I think we have to get to the bottom of this. I think there’s clear inconsistency between what’s been found in Iraq and what we were told.

And as you know, I serve on the Senate Intelligence Committee. So it wasn’t just the Bush administration. I sat in meeting after meeting after meeting where we were told about the presence of weapons of mass destruction. There is clearly a disconnect between what we were told and what, in fact, we found there.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/3131295/

Facts, they're fun, aren't they?

I dare you to read this and comeback and tell me that we are not controlling Iraq's oil supply.



We are not controlling Iraq's oil supply.

Because if we were, Iraq wouldn't be contracting with the Chinese.

Thanks for participating.

Here's a nice little article: I dare you to read this and comeback and tell me that we are not controlling Iraq's oil supply.

It was fully nationalized and now it has been pillaged my private firms. We have seized control of their supply for Big Oil. Governments function for corporations. Governments are indirectly ran by corporations. Do the math 14. Please tell me don't control Iraq's oil supply. We privatized it to the benefit of the big oil companies that rule the world to some extent.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz

WE don't control Iraq's oil supply.

I don't read opinion pieces on CNN, it is a waste of time.

We don't control Iraq's oil supply. It was always the plan, starting back in 2004, for the Iraq's to contract with private firms.

Thanks.

Not this guy again 14

typical bob...  never let a tragedy go to waste...