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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:04 PM ET #5276

    Obviously, they have a cut and paste class at church.

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    Obviously, they have a cut and paste class at church.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:08 PM ET #5277

    Rostos -

    About 5% of physics scientists believe in god.

    Cut and paste all you want about one guys opinion, but trying to take a position that scientists somehow are so perplexed that they are rushing to the altar to take jesus in to their hearts - just not true pal.

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    Rostos -

    About 5% of physics scientists believe in god.

    Cut and paste all you want about one guys opinion, but trying to take a position that scientists somehow are so perplexed that they are rushing to the altar to take jesus in to their hearts - just not true pal.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:12 PM ET #5278

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Obviously, they have a cut and paste class at church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Obviously, they have a cut and paste class at church.

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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:16 PM ET #5279

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Rostos -

    About 5% of physics scientists believe in god.

    Cut and paste all you want about one guys opinion, but trying to take a position that scientists somehow are so perplexed that they are rushing to the altar to take jesus in to their hearts - just not true pal.

    Everyone has FREE WILL to believe what that want. That is Gods ultimate gift to people.......

    Furthermore, the scientist i quoted is THE LEADER in big bang cosmology reserach.

    Many other physicicts like Lawrence Krauss to avoid God have been forced to trick lamen people like you to equivocate the word "nothing". These type of scientists describe the quantum foam as NOTHING to trick people like you. You are getting fed rubbish and you keep buying it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Rostos -

    About 5% of physics scientists believe in god.

    Cut and paste all you want about one guys opinion, but trying to take a position that scientists somehow are so perplexed that they are rushing to the altar to take jesus in to their hearts - just not true pal.

    Everyone has FREE WILL to believe what that want. That is Gods ultimate gift to people.......

    Furthermore, the scientist i quoted is THE LEADER in big bang cosmology reserach.

    Many other physicicts like Lawrence Krauss to avoid God have been forced to trick lamen people like you to equivocate the word "nothing". These type of scientists describe the quantum foam as NOTHING to trick people like you. You are getting fed rubbish and you keep buying it....

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:20 PM ET #5280

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Believing the universe popped into existence uncaused, then a lightning bolt hit a pond somewhere to create a cell, then one day ape like animals decided to go for a walk then become human beings one day is a delusional story.......

    Who is in La La land again?


    making things up again I see, please reference where I said that is what I think

    rostos, tells us again how to spell heaven? ooops I mean heavan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Believing the universe popped into existence uncaused, then a lightning bolt hit a pond somewhere to create a cell, then one day ape like animals decided to go for a walk then become human beings one day is a delusional story.......

    Who is in La La land again?


    making things up again I see, please reference where I said that is what I think

    rostos, tells us again how to spell heaven? ooops I mean heavan
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:20 PM ET #5281

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Everyone has FREE WILL to believe what that want. That is Gods ultimate gift to people.......

    Furthermore, the scientist i quoted is THE LEADER in big bang cosmology reserach.

    Many other physicicts like Lawrence Krauss to avoid God have been forced to trick lamen people like you to equivocate the word "nothing". These type of scientists describe the quantum foam as NOTHING to trick people like you. You are getting fed rubbish and you keep buying it....

    I adhere to science, and the truth of replicable facts. 

    You believe in the scribblings of cave dwellers that lived 2000 years ago that in todays world would have the education of a 2nd grader, that is based on repeated superstitions and rituals.

    And Im the one who is being fed rubbish and keep buying it.  Oh, the irony.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Everyone has FREE WILL to believe what that want. That is Gods ultimate gift to people.......

    Furthermore, the scientist i quoted is THE LEADER in big bang cosmology reserach.

    Many other physicicts like Lawrence Krauss to avoid God have been forced to trick lamen people like you to equivocate the word "nothing". These type of scientists describe the quantum foam as NOTHING to trick people like you. You are getting fed rubbish and you keep buying it....

    I adhere to science, and the truth of replicable facts. 

    You believe in the scribblings of cave dwellers that lived 2000 years ago that in todays world would have the education of a 2nd grader, that is based on repeated superstitions and rituals.

    And Im the one who is being fed rubbish and keep buying it.  Oh, the irony.

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:22 PM ET #5282

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Who asked him to?

    Why would a loving god ask his son to die a painful death just for this nonsensical reason?  Wouldnt this god just forgive everyone without all of the theatrics?

    Its such a funny story - virgin gets pregnant so that kid can grow up and die for all of humanity.  This god couldnt think of anything better than that?  The all knowing god came up with that?


    easy Van, that is one of my favorite bedtime stories
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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Who asked him to?

    Why would a loving god ask his son to die a painful death just for this nonsensical reason?  Wouldnt this god just forgive everyone without all of the theatrics?

    Its such a funny story - virgin gets pregnant so that kid can grow up and die for all of humanity.  This god couldnt think of anything better than that?  The all knowing god came up with that?


    easy Van, that is one of my favorite bedtime stories
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 7:28 PM ET #5283

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I adhere to science, and the truth of replicable facts. 

    You believe in the scribblings of cave dwellers that lived 2000 years ago that in todays world would have the education of a 2nd grader, that is based on repeated superstitions and rituals.

    And Im the one who is being fed rubbish and keep buying it.  Oh, the irony.

     

    Science is LIMITED......

    Science cannot tell me why a painting is nice, science cannot tell me why i like blonde girls over brown hair girls, science cannot tell me why i like chocolate more than vanilla, Science cannot tell me what is moral or immoral.......

    You need to stop putting your faith in science...

    So the writings of 2000 years ago are wrong and incorrect? PROVE IT THEN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    I adhere to science, and the truth of replicable facts. 

    You believe in the scribblings of cave dwellers that lived 2000 years ago that in todays world would have the education of a 2nd grader, that is based on repeated superstitions and rituals.

    And Im the one who is being fed rubbish and keep buying it.  Oh, the irony.

     

    Science is LIMITED......

    Science cannot tell me why a painting is nice, science cannot tell me why i like blonde girls over brown hair girls, science cannot tell me why i like chocolate more than vanilla, Science cannot tell me what is moral or immoral.......

    You need to stop putting your faith in science...

    So the writings of 2000 years ago are wrong and incorrect? PROVE IT THEN?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:01 PM ET #5284

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Science is LIMITED......

    Science cannot tell me why a painting is nice, science cannot tell me why i like blonde girls over brown hair girls, science cannot tell me why i like chocolate more than vanilla, Science cannot tell me what is moral or immoral.......

    You need to stop putting your faith in science...

    So the writings of 2000 years ago are wrong and incorrect? PROVE IT THEN?

    the good book morals:

    stone a woman to death for not being a virgin on her wedding night

    stone your child to death for disobedience

    kill when god commands you to

    cut your hand or foot off if it causes you sin

    make yourself a eunuch if you so desire

    if your eye causes you to sin pluke it out

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Science is LIMITED......

    Science cannot tell me why a painting is nice, science cannot tell me why i like blonde girls over brown hair girls, science cannot tell me why i like chocolate more than vanilla, Science cannot tell me what is moral or immoral.......

    You need to stop putting your faith in science...

    So the writings of 2000 years ago are wrong and incorrect? PROVE IT THEN?

    the good book morals:

    stone a woman to death for not being a virgin on her wedding night

    stone your child to death for disobedience

    kill when god commands you to

    cut your hand or foot off if it causes you sin

    make yourself a eunuch if you so desire

    if your eye causes you to sin pluke it out

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:09 PM ET #5285

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Under naturalism things coming existence uncaused.......

    The atheists are laughing at us, but what is even more funnier is have they looked at the alternative, its worse than magic, because at least with magic, there is a magician, under naturlaism, there is no magician.......

     

    Yeah, that's funny and impossible things coming into existence uncaused!...hihihihihihi!

    So existence just popped into existence one day for no reason at all with no cause at all...ridiculous!...lol

    How can they believe in magic with no magician?...ridiculous...lol

    Boy, are they going to be shocked and so full of terror when that day comes that we all must face..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Under naturalism things coming existence uncaused.......

    The atheists are laughing at us, but what is even more funnier is have they looked at the alternative, its worse than magic, because at least with magic, there is a magician, under naturlaism, there is no magician.......

     

    Yeah, that's funny and impossible things coming into existence uncaused!...hihihihihihi!

    So existence just popped into existence one day for no reason at all with no cause at all...ridiculous!...lol

    How can they believe in magic with no magician?...ridiculous...lol

    Boy, are they going to be shocked and so full of terror when that day comes that we all must face..

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:11 PM ET #5286

    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    the good book morals:

    stone a woman to death for not being a virgin on her wedding night

    stone your child to death for disobedience

    kill when god commands you to

    cut your hand or foot off if it causes you sin

    make yourself a eunuch if you so desire

    if your eye causes you to sin pluke it out

     

    Make sure you know the difference between living under a theocracy and living under the grace of Christ before you bag out a religion you clealry have no understanding of...

    Right now you are thinking, damn, let me go to my fav atheist website and see what argument i can have against this...

    Silly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    the good book morals:

    stone a woman to death for not being a virgin on her wedding night

    stone your child to death for disobedience

    kill when god commands you to

    cut your hand or foot off if it causes you sin

    make yourself a eunuch if you so desire

    if your eye causes you to sin pluke it out

     

    Make sure you know the difference between living under a theocracy and living under the grace of Christ before you bag out a religion you clealry have no understanding of...

    Right now you are thinking, damn, let me go to my fav atheist website and see what argument i can have against this...

    Silly...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:15 PM ET #5287

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Yeah, that's funny and impossible things coming into existence uncaused!...hihihihihihi!

    So existence just popped into existence one day for no reason at all with no cause at all...ridiculous!...lol

    How can they believe in magic with no magician?...ridiculous...lol

    Boy, are they going to be shocked and so full of terror when that day comes that we all must face..

    Its all got to do with pride and not wanting to be told what to do, combined with emotional arguments...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Yeah, that's funny and impossible things coming into existence uncaused!...hihihihihihi!

    So existence just popped into existence one day for no reason at all with no cause at all...ridiculous!...lol

    How can they believe in magic with no magician?...ridiculous...lol

    Boy, are they going to be shocked and so full of terror when that day comes that we all must face..

    Its all got to do with pride and not wanting to be told what to do, combined with emotional arguments...

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:31 PM ET #5288

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Its all got to do with pride and not wanting to be told what to do, combined with emotional arguments...

    Yeah, I agree. Too much pride, arrogance and being irrational...have I left anything out?...lol

    Oh, I know there is more but the one thing they are good at is misinterpreting the Holy Bible which is the Word of God!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Its all got to do with pride and not wanting to be told what to do, combined with emotional arguments...

    Yeah, I agree. Too much pride, arrogance and being irrational...have I left anything out?...lol

    Oh, I know there is more but the one thing they are good at is misinterpreting the Holy Bible which is the Word of God!

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:43 PM ET #5289

    look  these atheist scientists who are trying to explain and cure the plagues our loving god has sent upon us....if they would just go to a bible study class and pray them away, everything would be fine....but noooooooooooo they think they can play god......lord have mercy

    atheistscientists

     

     
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    look  these atheist scientists who are trying to explain and cure the plagues our loving god has sent upon us....if they would just go to a bible study class and pray them away, everything would be fine....but noooooooooooo they think they can play god......lord have mercy

    atheistscientists

     

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:45 PM ET #5290

    [Quote: Originally Posted by CRRECORDS]

    look  these atheist scientists who are trying to explain and cure the plagues our loving god has sent upon us....if they would just go to a bible study class and pray them away, everything would be fine....but noooooooooooo they think they can play god......lord have mercy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e90C41jo5m4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

     
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    look  these atheist scientists who are trying to explain and cure the plagues our loving god has sent upon us....if they would just go to a bible study class and pray them away, everything would be fine....but noooooooooooo they think they can play god......lord have mercy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e90C41jo5m4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:53 PM ET #5291

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Yeah, I agree. Too much pride, arrogance and being irrational...have I left anything out?...lol

    Oh, I know there is more but the one thing they are good at is misinterpreting the Holy Bible which is the Word of God!


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Yeah, I agree. Too much pride, arrogance and being irrational...have I left anything out?...lol

    Oh, I know there is more but the one thing they are good at is misinterpreting the Holy Bible which is the Word of God!


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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 8:54 PM ET #5292

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Yeah, that's funny and impossible things coming into existence uncaused!...hihihihihihi!

    So existence just popped into existence one day for no reason at all with no cause at all...ridiculous!...lol

    How can they believe in magic with no magician?...ridiculous...lol

    Boy, are they going to be shocked and so full of terror when that day comes that we all must face..


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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Yeah, that's funny and impossible things coming into existence uncaused!...hihihihihihi!

    So existence just popped into existence one day for no reason at all with no cause at all...ridiculous!...lol

    How can they believe in magic with no magician?...ridiculous...lol

    Boy, are they going to be shocked and so full of terror when that day comes that we all must face..


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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 9:41 PM ET #5293

    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    look  these atheist scientists who are trying to explain and cure the plagues our loving god has sent upon us....if they would just go to a bible study class and pray them away, everything would be fine....but noooooooooooo they think they can play god......lord have mercy

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    Did i say science is bad OR Limited?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

    look  these atheist scientists who are trying to explain and cure the plagues our loving god has sent upon us....if they would just go to a bible study class and pray them away, everything would be fine....but noooooooooooo they think they can play god......lord have mercy

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    Did i say science is bad OR Limited?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 9:42 PM ET #5294

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:


    scared of a fairytale

    fairytale? a group of ape like animals decided to go for a walk and became humans one day........

    Thats a fairytale.......

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    scared of a fairytale

    fairytale? a group of ape like animals decided to go for a walk and became humans one day........

    Thats a fairytale.......

     
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    Posted: Mar. 14, 2012 - 9:48 PM ET #5295

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    fairytale? a group of ape like animals decided to go for a walk and became humans one day........

    Thats a fairytale.......


    yea, that's about how it happened  are you related to kirk cameron?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    fairytale? a group of ape like animals decided to go for a walk and became humans one day........

    Thats a fairytale.......


    yea, that's about how it happened  are you related to kirk cameron?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    fairytale? a group of ape like animals decided to go for a walk and became humans one day........

    Thats a fairytale.......

    That's too funny! Imagine a gal like system believes that her great great great grandpa was an ape...hihihihihihi!

    Hu hu ha ha ha...hu hu ha ha ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    fairytale? a group of ape like animals decided to go for a walk and became humans one day........

    Thats a fairytale.......

    That's too funny! Imagine a gal like system believes that her great great great grandpa was an ape...hihihihihihi!

    Hu hu ha ha ha...hu hu ha ha ha!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    That's too funny! Imagine a gal like system believes that her great great great grandpa was an ape...hihihihihihi!

    Hu hu ha ha ha...hu hu ha ha ha!

    Kobe Bryant originally evolved from a pond.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    That's too funny! Imagine a gal like system believes that her great great great grandpa was an ape...hihihihihihi!

    Hu hu ha ha ha...hu hu ha ha ha!

    Kobe Bryant originally evolved from a pond.....

     
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    Unbelievable just more mental masturbation from the atheist. I give you a guys a serious assignment/challenge and as usual not a single atheist has even bothered. I'm really at a loss at how lazy atheist are. I mean seriously. If what I said was so bizarre, crazy or if I've completely gone off the deep end like a couple atheist said. Then it should be very easy to disprove any story that I put up. 
    The real reason the atheist wont do the work is because it's gonna be awfully hard to stand on a "this is all an accident" theory if life exists on other planets. There is no way you're gonna tell us that this accident repeated itself millions of times across the Universe. I believe it was an atheist that posted that if something happens over and over it can't be considered an accident. Surely as crazy as I am (according to you guys) it should be a piece of cake to prove these stories wrong. Let's stop jerking around and get down to serious business on this thread. Stop the insults and put some work in. I even invite other Christians to disprove or show that the stories I posted are a "dream" "mass illusion" "air balloons" or some other mumbo jumbo that people have said. I'm going out on a limb begging for someone to prove any of these stories wrong. Your silence on this issue only leads me to believe that besides being lazy, all this atheist talk is truly a bunch of hogwash because if you really believed this crap then my challenge should be a slam dunk for you guys. It  should be quite easy that if these stories were hoaxes to prove them as such. I'm patiently waiting for somebody to step up to the plate.
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    Unbelievable just more mental masturbation from the atheist. I give you a guys a serious assignment/challenge and as usual not a single atheist has even bothered. I'm really at a loss at how lazy atheist are. I mean seriously. If what I said was so bizarre, crazy or if I've completely gone off the deep end like a couple atheist said. Then it should be very easy to disprove any story that I put up. 
    The real reason the atheist wont do the work is because it's gonna be awfully hard to stand on a "this is all an accident" theory if life exists on other planets. There is no way you're gonna tell us that this accident repeated itself millions of times across the Universe. I believe it was an atheist that posted that if something happens over and over it can't be considered an accident. Surely as crazy as I am (according to you guys) it should be a piece of cake to prove these stories wrong. Let's stop jerking around and get down to serious business on this thread. Stop the insults and put some work in. I even invite other Christians to disprove or show that the stories I posted are a "dream" "mass illusion" "air balloons" or some other mumbo jumbo that people have said. I'm going out on a limb begging for someone to prove any of these stories wrong. Your silence on this issue only leads me to believe that besides being lazy, all this atheist talk is truly a bunch of hogwash because if you really believed this crap then my challenge should be a slam dunk for you guys. It  should be quite easy that if these stories were hoaxes to prove them as such. I'm patiently waiting for somebody to step up to the plate.
     
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    For those that are lost I will briefly recap what is going on here. The atheist position is basically-we don't know what happened, there is no evidence of God, higher power and so forth. When asked about extraterrestrials. The answer is the same-"we don't know, people that have experienced it are "dreaming" and other bizarre explanations for actual events that have happened. We aren't talking about bogus UFO hoaxes and publicity stunts. We're talking about bonafide incidents reports by respected people and witnessed by thousands of people in most cases.  When told of an experience by a close friend of mine approximately 3 weeks ago when he encountered a UFO and had an encounter of the 2nd kind which is very intense. I was told he was "dreaming" he "doesn't actually know what it was" and that basically I was "going off the deep end". So I have taken the challenge of me being crazy and posted 2 UFO events that are well documented and asking anyone especially the atheist to disprove these events. You can look them up a few pages back. Since atheist are such lovers and believers in science and the search for evidence or lack thereof. They should have a field day on these events since they involve UFO attacks in one instance and the other the first recorded encounter by our military with UFO's. Now there are 2 possibilities here. Either I am truly crazy and this is all some internet mumbo jumbo that I or someone else has made up. Or these incidents are real and it would take a person of supreme ignorance after investigating these stories to say (A) they never happened (B) No one knows for sure (the thousands of people that experienced it do know for sure what they experienced (C) If it's true how come I have never heard about this before (D) It was an illusion by everyone involved (E) It's just a conspiracy to sell books, newspapers or some other money making agenda. So with that said this gives you an idea of what I'm referring to. For more information on the stories presented, click on the link I provided or google them yourself and prove me wrong.  
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    For those that are lost I will briefly recap what is going on here. The atheist position is basically-we don't know what happened, there is no evidence of God, higher power and so forth. When asked about extraterrestrials. The answer is the same-"we don't know, people that have experienced it are "dreaming" and other bizarre explanations for actual events that have happened. We aren't talking about bogus UFO hoaxes and publicity stunts. We're talking about bonafide incidents reports by respected people and witnessed by thousands of people in most cases.  When told of an experience by a close friend of mine approximately 3 weeks ago when he encountered a UFO and had an encounter of the 2nd kind which is very intense. I was told he was "dreaming" he "doesn't actually know what it was" and that basically I was "going off the deep end". So I have taken the challenge of me being crazy and posted 2 UFO events that are well documented and asking anyone especially the atheist to disprove these events. You can look them up a few pages back. Since atheist are such lovers and believers in science and the search for evidence or lack thereof. They should have a field day on these events since they involve UFO attacks in one instance and the other the first recorded encounter by our military with UFO's. Now there are 2 possibilities here. Either I am truly crazy and this is all some internet mumbo jumbo that I or someone else has made up. Or these incidents are real and it would take a person of supreme ignorance after investigating these stories to say (A) they never happened (B) No one knows for sure (the thousands of people that experienced it do know for sure what they experienced (C) If it's true how come I have never heard about this before (D) It was an illusion by everyone involved (E) It's just a conspiracy to sell books, newspapers or some other money making agenda. So with that said this gives you an idea of what I'm referring to. For more information on the stories presented, click on the link I provided or google them yourself and prove me wrong.  
     
     
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    I have decided to go this route because once you have experienced the atheist hypocrisy and inconsistency in the face of true logic. You see that no matter how they slice it their argument holds no water whatsoever. Simply put if there is no intelligent design then logically we could assume that Earth is an accident. That possibility would exist on a scientific level if we take God out of the picture momentarily. But if there is intelligent life on any other planet perhaps even millions. The argument that every planet with life was created out of nothing by some accident eons ago. Well only a complete fool would believe that rubish. I'm sure that your master mathematicians would say the odds of that would be trillions to one. Basically you can't have it both ways. You can't say that you believe in science and that this was an accident and then when there is overwhelming evidence based on events on this planet in the last 60 years that we're not alone in the Universe. You can't turn around and say "well you don't know for sure" You can't ignore the very thing that you say doesn't exist. I'm waiting for responses from anyone regarding this dilemma 
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    I have decided to go this route because once you have experienced the atheist hypocrisy and inconsistency in the face of true logic. You see that no matter how they slice it their argument holds no water whatsoever. Simply put if there is no intelligent design then logically we could assume that Earth is an accident. That possibility would exist on a scientific level if we take God out of the picture momentarily. But if there is intelligent life on any other planet perhaps even millions. The argument that every planet with life was created out of nothing by some accident eons ago. Well only a complete fool would believe that rubish. I'm sure that your master mathematicians would say the odds of that would be trillions to one. Basically you can't have it both ways. You can't say that you believe in science and that this was an accident and then when there is overwhelming evidence based on events on this planet in the last 60 years that we're not alone in the Universe. You can't turn around and say "well you don't know for sure" You can't ignore the very thing that you say doesn't exist. I'm waiting for responses from anyone regarding this dilemma 
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