And I honestly don't care about links about quotes and pictures when the ones that prove otherwise somehow are meaningless.
and this is precisely why this thread and "discussion" with people of like mindset is absolutely and utterly meaningless.............you have your mind (what little there is of it) made up already, so stop wasting other people's time
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And I honestly don't care about links about quotes and pictures when the ones that prove otherwise somehow are meaningless.
and this is precisely why this thread and "discussion" with people of like mindset is absolutely and utterly meaningless.............you have your mind (what little there is of it) made up already, so stop wasting other people's time
And I honestly don't care about links about quotes and pictures when the ones that prove otherwise somehow are meaningless.
and this is precisely why this thread and "discussion" with people of like mindset is absolutely and utterly meaningless.............you have your mind (what little there is of it) made up already, so stop wasting other people's time
What have YOU contributed here besides telling the Author he should kill himself ....And posting in the wrong thread?
Go add to your 34313 posts somewhere else with your drivel.
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Quote Originally Posted by ICAPSports:
And I honestly don't care about links about quotes and pictures when the ones that prove otherwise somehow are meaningless.
and this is precisely why this thread and "discussion" with people of like mindset is absolutely and utterly meaningless.............you have your mind (what little there is of it) made up already, so stop wasting other people's time
What have YOU contributed here besides telling the Author he should kill himself ....And posting in the wrong thread?
Go add to your 34313 posts somewhere else with your drivel.
You guys must be constantly mindfucked. I don't know If I'd want to live in this country if I actually believed that.
working on it..try to find a cute European to marry, cause i cant afford to move there myself!, then work visa-and all that jazz...America's pride (see celbration of 911 victimhood an denial of what got us there) and short sightedness will guarantee it will fall, and the world will do just fine...
the days of "America sneezes the world catches a cold" are gone, or almost all gone...
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Quote Originally Posted by Messier-11:
You guys must be constantly mindfucked. I don't know If I'd want to live in this country if I actually believed that.
working on it..try to find a cute European to marry, cause i cant afford to move there myself!, then work visa-and all that jazz...America's pride (see celbration of 911 victimhood an denial of what got us there) and short sightedness will guarantee it will fall, and the world will do just fine...
the days of "America sneezes the world catches a cold" are gone, or almost all gone...
THIS A GOVERMENT THAT FLOODED THE STREET WITH CRACK COCAINE THEN CHANGED THE LAWS MAKING A SEVERE PENALTY FOR THOSE WHO SOLD IT SO PRISION WOULD GET FILLED IN RURAL AMERICA ,AND MORE PRISIONS ARE BUILT TAKING AFRICAN AMERICANS OFF STREET WHILE PUTTING $$$ IN CORPARTE AMERICAS POCKETS AND PUTTING WHITE FOLKS IN RURAL AREAS TO WORK IN THESE PRISIONS THIS IS FACT SO I DONT TRUST GOVERMENT ,I WAS LOCKED UP BY GOVERMENT AND NEVER GOT CAUGHT WITH DRUGS OR SOLD TO NARC, I DONT TRUST THEM AT ALL NEVER WILL, AS FAR AS 911 I DONT KNOW
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THIS A GOVERMENT THAT FLOODED THE STREET WITH CRACK COCAINE THEN CHANGED THE LAWS MAKING A SEVERE PENALTY FOR THOSE WHO SOLD IT SO PRISION WOULD GET FILLED IN RURAL AMERICA ,AND MORE PRISIONS ARE BUILT TAKING AFRICAN AMERICANS OFF STREET WHILE PUTTING $$$ IN CORPARTE AMERICAS POCKETS AND PUTTING WHITE FOLKS IN RURAL AREAS TO WORK IN THESE PRISIONS THIS IS FACT SO I DONT TRUST GOVERMENT ,I WAS LOCKED UP BY GOVERMENT AND NEVER GOT CAUGHT WITH DRUGS OR SOLD TO NARC, I DONT TRUST THEM AT ALL NEVER WILL, AS FAR AS 911 I DONT KNOW
There may be many things that "don't add up" KOAJ, but they have easy explanations if people do really have open minds and are not approaching this from a preconceived conclusion.
agreed. i would like to see the video of the plane that hit the pentagon, just like i wanted to see bin ladens freshly dead body next to a newspaper of May 1 2011 or whatever day it was
i do feel bad that people believe the official story because its bullshit. just like BLS employment numbers are crap
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
There may be many things that "don't add up" KOAJ, but they have easy explanations if people do really have open minds and are not approaching this from a preconceived conclusion.
agreed. i would like to see the video of the plane that hit the pentagon, just like i wanted to see bin ladens freshly dead body next to a newspaper of May 1 2011 or whatever day it was
i do feel bad that people believe the official story because its bullshit. just like BLS employment numbers are crap
By the way, did you know that the head of security and recent FBI counterterrorism chief, Paul O’Neill was on the job at the WTC for only a few weeks after retiring from the FBI. He died in the south tower after reentering it to help with rescue efforts. I would think that the FBI’s head of counterterrorism might know of a massive conspiracy to take down the WTC, and would choose not to be in the buildings when the attack took place. Wouldn't you?
And Mozart, did you know that Securacom only provided a part of the security at the WTC? You would if you had actually done the research.
Another Conspiracy tactic....they only tell you part of the story....and leave out the part that shoots holes in all their theories.
very funny post. Why do you assume that the head of the FBI counter terrorism unit would have to know about this? Heres the deal, if you want to believe the bullshit the government is telling you thats fine, but there is lots of proof out there that makes the govt case look like shit.
Just the other day, fighter jets escorted planes to airports because people made to many trips to the bathroom, but on 911 after 2 towers were hit and the govt knew that this was a complete act of terrorism, norad didnt bother to send up any jets to stop the plane heading towards Pentagon airspace, nor was any missile defense system used to stop that plane from hitting one of the most secure buildings on the planet? Nope just let the plane fly right in and hit the Pentagon. Amazing how thou in minutes after the crash, agents were at all the stores confiscating the video tapes. To thid day, not one picture has ever been released of an airliner flying towards the pentagon, yet the Pentagon probably has many hundreds of the best security cameras in the world watching the buildings and its surroundings. I could go on and on, but truth is i dont waste my time trying to convince people like yourself to educate yourself and use a little common sense on this matter, who just believe the govts bullshit story.
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
By the way, did you know that the head of security and recent FBI counterterrorism chief, Paul O’Neill was on the job at the WTC for only a few weeks after retiring from the FBI. He died in the south tower after reentering it to help with rescue efforts. I would think that the FBI’s head of counterterrorism might know of a massive conspiracy to take down the WTC, and would choose not to be in the buildings when the attack took place. Wouldn't you?
And Mozart, did you know that Securacom only provided a part of the security at the WTC? You would if you had actually done the research.
Another Conspiracy tactic....they only tell you part of the story....and leave out the part that shoots holes in all their theories.
very funny post. Why do you assume that the head of the FBI counter terrorism unit would have to know about this? Heres the deal, if you want to believe the bullshit the government is telling you thats fine, but there is lots of proof out there that makes the govt case look like shit.
Just the other day, fighter jets escorted planes to airports because people made to many trips to the bathroom, but on 911 after 2 towers were hit and the govt knew that this was a complete act of terrorism, norad didnt bother to send up any jets to stop the plane heading towards Pentagon airspace, nor was any missile defense system used to stop that plane from hitting one of the most secure buildings on the planet? Nope just let the plane fly right in and hit the Pentagon. Amazing how thou in minutes after the crash, agents were at all the stores confiscating the video tapes. To thid day, not one picture has ever been released of an airliner flying towards the pentagon, yet the Pentagon probably has many hundreds of the best security cameras in the world watching the buildings and its surroundings. I could go on and on, but truth is i dont waste my time trying to convince people like yourself to educate yourself and use a little common sense on this matter, who just believe the govts bullshit story.
agreed. i would like to see the video of the plane that hit the pentagon, just like i wanted to see bin ladens freshly dead body next to a newspaper of May 1 2011 or whatever day it was
i do feel bad that people believe the official story because its bullshit. just like BLS employment numbers are crap
you mean a video from one of the hundreds and hundreds of cameras watching that building? How about even just a still picture of a plane flying toward the building. The whole entire thing was a complete setup. Personally i believe it was the global rich and the defense contractors who have the ability to pull off something like this. On top of that whos to say, that everybody who was involved in this, hasnt already been killed off by another group of people?
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Quote Originally Posted by KOAJ:
agreed. i would like to see the video of the plane that hit the pentagon, just like i wanted to see bin ladens freshly dead body next to a newspaper of May 1 2011 or whatever day it was
i do feel bad that people believe the official story because its bullshit. just like BLS employment numbers are crap
you mean a video from one of the hundreds and hundreds of cameras watching that building? How about even just a still picture of a plane flying toward the building. The whole entire thing was a complete setup. Personally i believe it was the global rich and the defense contractors who have the ability to pull off something like this. On top of that whos to say, that everybody who was involved in this, hasnt already been killed off by another group of people?
Amazing how you conspiracy theorists watch a video, or listen to some loser friend of yours that is collecting a disability check from our government, about how our govt is doing all of these things to us. You people are puppets. Typical, loser puppets that did not play organized sports, had shitty parents, and are basically stealing air from the rest of the world.
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Amazing how you conspiracy theorists watch a video, or listen to some loser friend of yours that is collecting a disability check from our government, about how our govt is doing all of these things to us. You people are puppets. Typical, loser puppets that did not play organized sports, had shitty parents, and are basically stealing air from the rest of the world.
very funny post. Why do you assume that the head of the FBI counter terrorism unit would have to know about this? Heres the deal, if you want to believe the bullshit the government is telling you thats fine, but there is lots of proof out there that makes the govt case look like shit.
Just the other day, fighter jets escorted planes to airports because people made to many trips to the bathroom, but on 911 after 2 towers were hit and the govt knew that this was a complete act of terrorism, norad didnt bother to send up any jets to stop the plane heading towards Pentagon airspace, nor was any missile defense system used to stop that plane from hitting one of the most secure buildings on the planet? Nope just let the plane fly right in and hit the Pentagon. Amazing how thou in minutes after the crash, agents were at all the stores confiscating the video tapes. To thid day, not one picture has ever been released of an airliner flying towards the pentagon, yet the Pentagon probably has many hundreds of the best security cameras in the world watching the buildings and its surroundings. I could go on and on, but truth is i dont waste my time trying to convince people like yourself to educate yourself and use a little common sense on this matter, who just believe the govts bullshit story.
pre 9/11 the US was a nation with their head of their ass security wise.....the F16s that were sent after the PA plane were done so in desperation and with inadequate ammo.....all of this is well known and documented.....again you will ignore this
think about this genius.....in the days pre 9.11 how advanced was airport screening......were liquids limited to 3 oz? were you forced to take off your shoes? or belt? to get essentially naked via machines?
see the comparison to the planes ready to take down planes now for minor indiscretions (i.e. too many bathroom trips?)
for the record, I don't expect your pea brain to be able to comprehend this
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Quote Originally Posted by cd329:
very funny post. Why do you assume that the head of the FBI counter terrorism unit would have to know about this? Heres the deal, if you want to believe the bullshit the government is telling you thats fine, but there is lots of proof out there that makes the govt case look like shit.
Just the other day, fighter jets escorted planes to airports because people made to many trips to the bathroom, but on 911 after 2 towers were hit and the govt knew that this was a complete act of terrorism, norad didnt bother to send up any jets to stop the plane heading towards Pentagon airspace, nor was any missile defense system used to stop that plane from hitting one of the most secure buildings on the planet? Nope just let the plane fly right in and hit the Pentagon. Amazing how thou in minutes after the crash, agents were at all the stores confiscating the video tapes. To thid day, not one picture has ever been released of an airliner flying towards the pentagon, yet the Pentagon probably has many hundreds of the best security cameras in the world watching the buildings and its surroundings. I could go on and on, but truth is i dont waste my time trying to convince people like yourself to educate yourself and use a little common sense on this matter, who just believe the govts bullshit story.
pre 9/11 the US was a nation with their head of their ass security wise.....the F16s that were sent after the PA plane were done so in desperation and with inadequate ammo.....all of this is well known and documented.....again you will ignore this
think about this genius.....in the days pre 9.11 how advanced was airport screening......were liquids limited to 3 oz? were you forced to take off your shoes? or belt? to get essentially naked via machines?
see the comparison to the planes ready to take down planes now for minor indiscretions (i.e. too many bathroom trips?)
for the record, I don't expect your pea brain to be able to comprehend this
how are you trying to call out anyone as pea brained?
you fuggin juice shot- you have 35,000 posts on a sports forum and you are trying to act like someone people should LISTEN too?
you are a RETARD. Someone who needs attention because you have got non in 35 years. You like to try and shock people with your stupid opinions that even YOU don't believe. If I were you, I would put on my best suit, brush your hair and blow your fucking head off.
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how are you trying to call out anyone as pea brained?
you fuggin juice shot- you have 35,000 posts on a sports forum and you are trying to act like someone people should LISTEN too?
you are a RETARD. Someone who needs attention because you have got non in 35 years. You like to try and shock people with your stupid opinions that even YOU don't believe. If I were you, I would put on my best suit, brush your hair and blow your fucking head off.
how are you trying to call out anyone as pea brained?
you fuggin juice shot- you have 35,000 posts on a sports forum and you are trying to act like someone people should LISTEN too?
you are a RETARD. Someone who needs attention because you have got non in 35 years. You like to try and shock people with your stupid opinions that even YOU don't believe. If I were you, I would put on my best suit, brush your hair and blow your fucking head off.
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Quote Originally Posted by pjamphan1919:
how are you trying to call out anyone as pea brained?
you fuggin juice shot- you have 35,000 posts on a sports forum and you are trying to act like someone people should LISTEN too?
you are a RETARD. Someone who needs attention because you have got non in 35 years. You like to try and shock people with your stupid opinions that even YOU don't believe. If I were you, I would put on my best suit, brush your hair and blow your fucking head off.
how are you trying to call out anyone as pea brained?
you fuggin juice shot- you have 35,000 posts on a sports forum and you are trying to act like someone people should LISTEN too?
you are a RETARD. Someone who needs attention because you have got non in 35 years. You like to try and shock people with your stupid opinions that even YOU don't believe. If I were you, I would put on my best suit, brush your hair and blow your fucking head off.
2 dopes on the same side fighting each other.
Like I said in post # 30.......
" Why is it that people who believe everything that the government tells them and can't explain shit always seem so hostile? "
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Quote Originally Posted by pjamphan1919:
how are you trying to call out anyone as pea brained?
you fuggin juice shot- you have 35,000 posts on a sports forum and you are trying to act like someone people should LISTEN too?
you are a RETARD. Someone who needs attention because you have got non in 35 years. You like to try and shock people with your stupid opinions that even YOU don't believe. If I were you, I would put on my best suit, brush your hair and blow your fucking head off.
2 dopes on the same side fighting each other.
Like I said in post # 30.......
" Why is it that people who believe everything that the government tells them and can't explain shit always seem so hostile? "
pre 9/11 the US was a nation with their head of their ass security wise.....the F16s that were sent after the PA plane were done so in desperation and with inadequate ammo.....all of this is well known and documented.....again you will ignore this
think about this genius.....in the days pre 9.11 how advanced was airport screening......were liquids limited to 3 oz? were you forced to take off your shoes? or belt? to get essentially naked via machines?
see the comparison to the planes ready to take down planes now for minor indiscretions (i.e. too many bathroom trips?)
for the record, I don't expect your pea brain to be able to comprehend this
If anybody has a pea brain, its guys like you who just follow in line and believe all the bullshit the govt tells you to believe. Does somebody from the govt call you up everyday telling you when you can take a shit.
Sorry but the Pentagon even before 911 has always had dedicated planes on standby to confront any plane that enters into Pentagon airspace. Also why no use of the missile defense system, protecting one of the most secure buildings on the planet. You get within a mile of area 51 and you will get shot, but 2 planes hit the trade center with another one heading towards the Pentagon and norad sits back and does nothing. You can come up with all this we werent prepared bullshit all you want, but thats not what happened pea brain. Now go call the govt up and ask them if you can take your shit now
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Quote Originally Posted by ICAPSports:
pre 9/11 the US was a nation with their head of their ass security wise.....the F16s that were sent after the PA plane were done so in desperation and with inadequate ammo.....all of this is well known and documented.....again you will ignore this
think about this genius.....in the days pre 9.11 how advanced was airport screening......were liquids limited to 3 oz? were you forced to take off your shoes? or belt? to get essentially naked via machines?
see the comparison to the planes ready to take down planes now for minor indiscretions (i.e. too many bathroom trips?)
for the record, I don't expect your pea brain to be able to comprehend this
If anybody has a pea brain, its guys like you who just follow in line and believe all the bullshit the govt tells you to believe. Does somebody from the govt call you up everyday telling you when you can take a shit.
Sorry but the Pentagon even before 911 has always had dedicated planes on standby to confront any plane that enters into Pentagon airspace. Also why no use of the missile defense system, protecting one of the most secure buildings on the planet. You get within a mile of area 51 and you will get shot, but 2 planes hit the trade center with another one heading towards the Pentagon and norad sits back and does nothing. You can come up with all this we werent prepared bullshit all you want, but thats not what happened pea brain. Now go call the govt up and ask them if you can take your shit now
And the plane did not fly over the ground for that far of a distance. If it would have, it would have slid across several lanes of highway full of cars.
And by the way, how do you explain the all the broken light poles? A missile wouldn't bust those light poles off at the base before it slammed into the pentagon, would it?
oh so you know for a fact those poles were up before the crash and you also know for a fact that those poles werent rigged with explosives either. This is why our country is so great, we can all have differnt opinions about things. You believe what the govt has told you and i dont.
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Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:
And the plane did not fly over the ground for that far of a distance. If it would have, it would have slid across several lanes of highway full of cars.
And by the way, how do you explain the all the broken light poles? A missile wouldn't bust those light poles off at the base before it slammed into the pentagon, would it?
oh so you know for a fact those poles were up before the crash and you also know for a fact that those poles werent rigged with explosives either. This is why our country is so great, we can all have differnt opinions about things. You believe what the govt has told you and i dont.
building 7 was "severely damaged" and therefore collapsed about its geometric center, with the center columns failing first as in a controlled demolition. It was so damaged from the outside that the geometric center of the building failed first?
Somebody got greedy with tower 7 and all the evidence needed is right there. It is all right there.
Two giant buildings, chaulk full of asbestos, being insured up the ass, right before their catastrophic demise. Resulting, in a two for one policy cash-in, as the attack constituted two separate attacks.
I find that rather convenient, forget building 7.
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The official story
building 7 was "severely damaged" and therefore collapsed about its geometric center, with the center columns failing first as in a controlled demolition. It was so damaged from the outside that the geometric center of the building failed first?
Somebody got greedy with tower 7 and all the evidence needed is right there. It is all right there.
Two giant buildings, chaulk full of asbestos, being insured up the ass, right before their catastrophic demise. Resulting, in a two for one policy cash-in, as the attack constituted two separate attacks.
Like I said the last time, the Bush administration couldn't even organize a rescue effort for Hurricane Katrina yet they had no problem covering up the deaths of thousands of people that would require hundreds of conspirators? 10 years later and not even a slight hint of a smoking gun? Not even a NYPD or FDNY making 60k/year that was at ground zero? You'd think he'd make millions off the story if he said he saw explosives at the WTC. Give me a freakin break.
And 1,500 engineers and architects dispute 9/11?? Who exactly are they? Name them. And why hasn't their "theory" ever been published on a reputable engineer or physics Journal? You would think they'd win a Pulitzer Prize with that kind of info
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Good grief. Not this shit again.
Like I said the last time, the Bush administration couldn't even organize a rescue effort for Hurricane Katrina yet they had no problem covering up the deaths of thousands of people that would require hundreds of conspirators? 10 years later and not even a slight hint of a smoking gun? Not even a NYPD or FDNY making 60k/year that was at ground zero? You'd think he'd make millions off the story if he said he saw explosives at the WTC. Give me a freakin break.
And 1,500 engineers and architects dispute 9/11?? Who exactly are they? Name them. And why hasn't their "theory" ever been published on a reputable engineer or physics Journal? You would think they'd win a Pulitzer Prize with that kind of info
And 1,500 engineers and architects dispute 9/11?? Who exactly are they? Name them.
https://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html
All 1,500 of them are RIGHT HERE, NAMED.
Go ahead and try to dispute them, I dare you.
I can personally guarantee 100% that 911 was an insider job and that this truth will very soon (within months) be known and accepted widely after the huge financial/governmental changes happens with huge, shocking announcements of the massive changes in the financial structure (no more Federal Reserve, IRS, etc), etc.
The truth will finally be known soon, very soon. Stay tuned.
And to those of you who insist that the official story of 911 is true -- shame on you!
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Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:
And 1,500 engineers and architects dispute 9/11?? Who exactly are they? Name them.
https://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html
All 1,500 of them are RIGHT HERE, NAMED.
Go ahead and try to dispute them, I dare you.
I can personally guarantee 100% that 911 was an insider job and that this truth will very soon (within months) be known and accepted widely after the huge financial/governmental changes happens with huge, shocking announcements of the massive changes in the financial structure (no more Federal Reserve, IRS, etc), etc.
The truth will finally be known soon, very soon. Stay tuned.
And to those of you who insist that the official story of 911 is true -- shame on you!
I can personally guarantee 100% that 911 was an insider job and that this truth will very soon (within months) be known and accepted widely after the huge financial/governmental changes happens with huge, shocking announcements of the massive changes in the financial structure (no more Federal Reserve, IRS, etc), etc.
The truth will finally be known soon, very soon. Stay tuned.
And to those of you who insist that the official story of 911 is true -- shame on you!
Sad. 1500 engineer and architects yet not a single one has had their work published in any reputable engineer Journal. Gee. I wonder why
BTW: The 1st guy on that list, Richard Gage, also created THIS comical BS
Wow! This guy is a modern day Einstein!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by Mozart:
https://patriotsquestion911.com/engineers.html
All 1,500 of them are RIGHT HERE, NAMED.
Go ahead and try to dispute them, I dare you.
I can personally guarantee 100% that 911 was an insider job and that this truth will very soon (within months) be known and accepted widely after the huge financial/governmental changes happens with huge, shocking announcements of the massive changes in the financial structure (no more Federal Reserve, IRS, etc), etc.
The truth will finally be known soon, very soon. Stay tuned.
And to those of you who insist that the official story of 911 is true -- shame on you!
Sad. 1500 engineer and architects yet not a single one has had their work published in any reputable engineer Journal. Gee. I wonder why
BTW: The 1st guy on that list, Richard Gage, also created THIS comical BS
Like I said the last time, the Bush administration couldn't even organize a rescue effort for Hurricane Katrina yet they had no problem covering up the deaths of thousands of people that would require hundreds of conspirators? 10 years later and not even a slight hint of a smoking gun? Not even a NYPD or FDNY making 60k/year that was at ground zero? You'd think he'd make millions off the story if he said he saw explosives at the WTC. Give me a freakin break.
And 1,500 engineers and architects dispute 9/11?? Who exactly are they? Name them. And why hasn't their "theory" ever been published on a reputable engineer or physics Journal? You would think they'd win a Pulitzer Prize with that kind of info
no it wouldnt. and this type of thing if true, would be above GW's head anyway. katrina response/rescue unit is not a federal issue. people of NOLA were warned a few days in advance that this thing was coming
yes our country has owners and it aint the president
there are people who benefit from either a D or R in charge and it makes no difference
try googling: Architects and Engineers for Truth. i actually saw a presentation from their founder on WTC7. quite compelling to listen to a 20 year skyscraper engineer tell you that a building was a controlled demolition when backed by physics and detailed video
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Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:
Good grief. Not this shit again.
Like I said the last time, the Bush administration couldn't even organize a rescue effort for Hurricane Katrina yet they had no problem covering up the deaths of thousands of people that would require hundreds of conspirators? 10 years later and not even a slight hint of a smoking gun? Not even a NYPD or FDNY making 60k/year that was at ground zero? You'd think he'd make millions off the story if he said he saw explosives at the WTC. Give me a freakin break.
And 1,500 engineers and architects dispute 9/11?? Who exactly are they? Name them. And why hasn't their "theory" ever been published on a reputable engineer or physics Journal? You would think they'd win a Pulitzer Prize with that kind of info
no it wouldnt. and this type of thing if true, would be above GW's head anyway. katrina response/rescue unit is not a federal issue. people of NOLA were warned a few days in advance that this thing was coming
yes our country has owners and it aint the president
there are people who benefit from either a D or R in charge and it makes no difference
try googling: Architects and Engineers for Truth. i actually saw a presentation from their founder on WTC7. quite compelling to listen to a 20 year skyscraper engineer tell you that a building was a controlled demolition when backed by physics and detailed video
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