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    coldsnap55
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 2:30 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    coldsnap-

    Exactly what questions are you referring to? 

    The same questions I asked you for the last couple of years.

     

    1]  Why is there only 1 film released at the Pentagon with at least dozens of cameras that must have captured it.....Please don't say they are thinking of the families best interest.

     

    You saw the only film they showed of something coming straight in....2] At 500 MPH how far do you think he could have stayed a couple of feet off the ground?  Picture it in your head.

     

    3] The teacher in the school that trained this pilot said that he could barely fly a 2 seater.....And pilots with 30 years of experience say that it is impossible to keep a plane a couple of feet off the ground at that speed.....How did this novice do that?

     

    4]  How did a huge plane fit in that small round hole without a dent from the engines? 

     

    Never mind the way they found uniforms and body parts but very little plane......the way building 7 fell [ damage or not it doesn't fall that way]....or a dozen other coincidences that happened that day.

     

    1-4 is good enough. 

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

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    Exactly what questions are you referring to? 

    The same questions I asked you for the last couple of years.

     

    1]  Why is there only 1 film released at the Pentagon with at least dozens of cameras that must have captured it.....Please don't say they are thinking of the families best interest.

     

    You saw the only film they showed of something coming straight in....2] At 500 MPH how far do you think he could have stayed a couple of feet off the ground?  Picture it in your head.

     

    3] The teacher in the school that trained this pilot said that he could barely fly a 2 seater.....And pilots with 30 years of experience say that it is impossible to keep a plane a couple of feet off the ground at that speed.....How did this novice do that?

     

    4]  How did a huge plane fit in that small round hole without a dent from the engines? 

     

    Never mind the way they found uniforms and body parts but very little plane......the way building 7 fell [ damage or not it doesn't fall that way]....or a dozen other coincidences that happened that day.

     

    1-4 is good enough. 

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 2:52 PM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I never put words in your mouth about a missile.  Most conspiracy theorists subscribe to the "missile" theory.  I'd like to know what your theory is. 

    And re. your questions, these are all I see in this whole thread:

    Why is it that people who believe everything that the government tells them and can't explain shit always seem so hostile?  I don't.  It bothers me when people talk about 9/11 being an inside job. 

    And do you really think that THAT is the only film available that captures the crash?..... Not necessarily.  But I do know that releasing the film could lead to all sorts of headaches and plenty of lawsuits.  And the fact that I have seen pictures of all sorts of plane parts in the pentagon satisfies me.

    Still no explanation of the rookie 2 seater pilots incredible feat.  All they had to do was push a few buttons and let the auto pilot get them close.  After that there was some work to be done, but it wasn't like he had no experience.  People do things that suprise us all the time.   Most of the people who comment on the flight say, "it's not safe....or it's a fighter pilot maneuver."  They almost never say it wouldn't be possible.  It's not like this guy had to take off and land this plane. He had to point it in a general direction and then get it pointed at the pentagon eventually.  Lots of people did extraordinary things that day.  Maybe that pilot was just one of them.   

    Let's face it, you can see something plunging into the side of the pentagon even in that crappy footage.  There is evidence of where the wings hit. 

    What do you think it was if it wasn't a plane?

     

    Yes you did twice....This is what I said earlier about being labeled that just because I ask a couple of questions about something....automaticly I believe EVERYTHING that is questioned.

     

    I was refering to the 3 or 4 posters that wished death on non-believers.

     

    Avoid headaches lawsuits and the possible truth....Great answer.

     

    Set the GPS controls to hit the pentagon FOR A ONE IN A MILLION SHOT IS GOOD WITH YOU?

     

    A military plane......Don't ask what happened with the real plane.....I'd hate to think.

     

     

    Like I said....Show me a passanger plane in a film or still shot near the pentagon and make me look stupid....I can live with that. 

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I never put words in your mouth about a missile.  Most conspiracy theorists subscribe to the "missile" theory.  I'd like to know what your theory is. 

    And re. your questions, these are all I see in this whole thread:

    Why is it that people who believe everything that the government tells them and can't explain shit always seem so hostile?  I don't.  It bothers me when people talk about 9/11 being an inside job. 

    And do you really think that THAT is the only film available that captures the crash?..... Not necessarily.  But I do know that releasing the film could lead to all sorts of headaches and plenty of lawsuits.  And the fact that I have seen pictures of all sorts of plane parts in the pentagon satisfies me.

    Still no explanation of the rookie 2 seater pilots incredible feat.  All they had to do was push a few buttons and let the auto pilot get them close.  After that there was some work to be done, but it wasn't like he had no experience.  People do things that suprise us all the time.   Most of the people who comment on the flight say, "it's not safe....or it's a fighter pilot maneuver."  They almost never say it wouldn't be possible.  It's not like this guy had to take off and land this plane. He had to point it in a general direction and then get it pointed at the pentagon eventually.  Lots of people did extraordinary things that day.  Maybe that pilot was just one of them.   

    Let's face it, you can see something plunging into the side of the pentagon even in that crappy footage.  There is evidence of where the wings hit. 

    What do you think it was if it wasn't a plane?

     

    Yes you did twice....This is what I said earlier about being labeled that just because I ask a couple of questions about something....automaticly I believe EVERYTHING that is questioned.

     

    I was refering to the 3 or 4 posters that wished death on non-believers.

     

    Avoid headaches lawsuits and the possible truth....Great answer.

     

    Set the GPS controls to hit the pentagon FOR A ONE IN A MILLION SHOT IS GOOD WITH YOU?

     

    A military plane......Don't ask what happened with the real plane.....I'd hate to think.

     

     

    Like I said....Show me a passanger plane in a film or still shot near the pentagon and make me look stupid....I can live with that. 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 4:03 PM ET #128

    I think Bush was kept out of the loop just as much as Obama is out the loop. they never had any control, only on a micro level.

    presidents come and go....it's the people behind the scenes who stays in control for a very long time. they have the tools and the know how to manipulate people and events to achieve their goal. 

    to blame the US gov't for inside job is not completely inaccurate just a little. Feds knew we were going to be attacked, just didn't know how or when (so they say). The Israeli intelligence knew about it...i wouldn't be surprised if they were in cahoots to frame muslims either. US trained and funded the same terrorist we're trying to hunt down today.

    how are we to believe what the gov't tells us when they have been known to lie, cheat, and cover up the truth.
    let's face it......war is big business we all agree on that

    now get ready for another recession boys and girls...even though it never really ended. all the uprising and demonstrations you see in other countries...it could come here soon. overseas, people are getting fed up with the establishment and it's going to have a domino effect.


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    I think Bush was kept out of the loop just as much as Obama is out the loop. they never had any control, only on a micro level.

    presidents come and go....it's the people behind the scenes who stays in control for a very long time. they have the tools and the know how to manipulate people and events to achieve their goal. 

    to blame the US gov't for inside job is not completely inaccurate just a little. Feds knew we were going to be attacked, just didn't know how or when (so they say). The Israeli intelligence knew about it...i wouldn't be surprised if they were in cahoots to frame muslims either. US trained and funded the same terrorist we're trying to hunt down today.

    how are we to believe what the gov't tells us when they have been known to lie, cheat, and cover up the truth.
    let's face it......war is big business we all agree on that

    now get ready for another recession boys and girls...even though it never really ended. all the uprising and demonstrations you see in other countries...it could come here soon. overseas, people are getting fed up with the establishment and it's going to have a domino effect.


    anyone scared?

    want a hug?

    can i get a hug?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 5:10 PM ET #129

    1. If you look it up, you’ll find that a lawsuit cost the government $16 million dollars to settle the Zapruder film fiasco…..that was a long time ago.  You have to deal with questions of authenticity issues (accusations that the government altered it).  The tapes that were confiscated are the property of whoever owns the camera.  They cannot just pick and choose who gets to see them.  Some victim families were able to view them at the trial for Massaoui.


    2. The angle of impact wasn’t so shallow that he had to fly a few feet off the ground for a long time before he hit the building. 

    3. The instructor never said he could “barely fly a Cessna.”  Hanjour had a commercial instrument-rated pilot’s license.  The criticism from his flight instructor had to do with take-offs and landings….neither which he had to do to complete his mission (directing a plane to a spot on the ground isn’t landing).  In reality, all he had to do was punch some coordinates into the computer and let the plane take him most of the way in.  From there, it was the matter of steering a hunk of metal to a destination.  And wouldn’t you expect that the LAST thing he practiced in the simulator was take-offs and landings?  I would.

    Hanjour failed because he needed assistance on take-off and landing.  This is a brief interview with his instructor who says he refused to practice stalls and landings.  Interesting.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7tr-VE2Uo

    4. I am not an expert as to how a reinforced, bomb-proof, concrete building like the pentagon reacts ran into by a huge commercial jetliner at 500+ miles an hour.  And neither are you (we’re dealing with something that never had happened before in history so there is no way we’re going to know how a building like that should look after an event like that).  All the wreckage shown in all the pictures (not from the government either) as well as the overwhelming amount of eyewitness testimony tells me it got there somehow. 

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    1. If you look it up, you’ll find that a lawsuit cost the government $16 million dollars to settle the Zapruder film fiasco…..that was a long time ago.  You have to deal with questions of authenticity issues (accusations that the government altered it).  The tapes that were confiscated are the property of whoever owns the camera.  They cannot just pick and choose who gets to see them.  Some victim families were able to view them at the trial for Massaoui.


    2. The angle of impact wasn’t so shallow that he had to fly a few feet off the ground for a long time before he hit the building. 

    3. The instructor never said he could “barely fly a Cessna.”  Hanjour had a commercial instrument-rated pilot’s license.  The criticism from his flight instructor had to do with take-offs and landings….neither which he had to do to complete his mission (directing a plane to a spot on the ground isn’t landing).  In reality, all he had to do was punch some coordinates into the computer and let the plane take him most of the way in.  From there, it was the matter of steering a hunk of metal to a destination.  And wouldn’t you expect that the LAST thing he practiced in the simulator was take-offs and landings?  I would.

    Hanjour failed because he needed assistance on take-off and landing.  This is a brief interview with his instructor who says he refused to practice stalls and landings.  Interesting.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o7tr-VE2Uo

    4. I am not an expert as to how a reinforced, bomb-proof, concrete building like the pentagon reacts ran into by a huge commercial jetliner at 500+ miles an hour.  And neither are you (we’re dealing with something that never had happened before in history so there is no way we’re going to know how a building like that should look after an event like that).  All the wreckage shown in all the pictures (not from the government either) as well as the overwhelming amount of eyewitness testimony tells me it got there somehow. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 6:13 PM ET #130

    I know people get tired of watching videos and such, but this lays out some specific assertions of the truth movement and then responds to each of those assertions.  It is not accusatory....doesn't point fingers.  Just attempts to answer questions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUDQVqbMto&list=PLDD5BD81A636031A5&index=2

    And FYI, the 9/11 A+E group is 1,500+ strong.  80.....yes, EIGHTY of them are licensed scructural or civil engineers (notice how the jumble architects and engineers together to make it look like a big number when in reality the number of engineers in that group is actually miniscule in the scheme of things).

    The number of structural and civil engineers that dispute what the 9/11 A+E folks think is in the hundreds of thousands. 

     

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    I know people get tired of watching videos and such, but this lays out some specific assertions of the truth movement and then responds to each of those assertions.  It is not accusatory....doesn't point fingers.  Just attempts to answer questions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJUDQVqbMto&list=PLDD5BD81A636031A5&index=2

    And FYI, the 9/11 A+E group is 1,500+ strong.  80.....yes, EIGHTY of them are licensed scructural or civil engineers (notice how the jumble architects and engineers together to make it look like a big number when in reality the number of engineers in that group is actually miniscule in the scheme of things).

    The number of structural and civil engineers that dispute what the 9/11 A+E folks think is in the hundreds of thousands. 

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 6:29 PM ET #131

    Hutch did the damn thang in this thread


    This really is all a waste of time. Nobody with any credibility has ever questioned what happened on 9/11

    Gage was a nobody before he started brain washing these pundits. And he's not even an engineer or physicist!!! He's a fucking architect!! A real life George Costanza! 
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    Hutch did the damn thang in this thread


    This really is all a waste of time. Nobody with any credibility has ever questioned what happened on 9/11

    Gage was a nobody before he started brain washing these pundits. And he's not even an engineer or physicist!!! He's a fucking architect!! A real life George Costanza! 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

      Nobody with any credibility has ever questioned what happened on 9/11


    What?

    That's one fucking, bullshit statement made out of ignorance, intentional or non-intentional... I'd say intentional.

    How about these **licensed** pilots?

    https://pilotsfor911truth.org/


    How about these firefighters?

    https://firefightersfor911truth.org/


    How about these medical professionals for 911 truth?

    https://mp911truth.org/


    How about these lawyers for 911 truth?

    https://l911t.com/


    How about these Veterans for 911 truth?

    https://v911t.org/


    Shall I go on? Many more professionals have gathered together in their firm knowledge that the gov't official story of 911 is pure bullshit and have set up websites to share what they know!

    Dare anyone call THOSE professionals kooky "conspiracy theorists", huh? Dare anyone? Eh?

    Damn those with closed minds!

    Boy, you closed-minded ones are going to be in for a BIG surprise SOON (within months) when the disclosures finally start to happen on many levels, 911 included.



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    Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

      Nobody with any credibility has ever questioned what happened on 9/11


    What?

    That's one fucking, bullshit statement made out of ignorance, intentional or non-intentional... I'd say intentional.

    How about these **licensed** pilots?

    https://pilotsfor911truth.org/


    How about these firefighters?

    https://firefightersfor911truth.org/


    How about these medical professionals for 911 truth?

    https://mp911truth.org/


    How about these lawyers for 911 truth?

    https://l911t.com/


    How about these Veterans for 911 truth?

    https://v911t.org/


    Shall I go on? Many more professionals have gathered together in their firm knowledge that the gov't official story of 911 is pure bullshit and have set up websites to share what they know!

    Dare anyone call THOSE professionals kooky "conspiracy theorists", huh? Dare anyone? Eh?

    Damn those with closed minds!

    Boy, you closed-minded ones are going to be in for a BIG surprise SOON (within months) when the disclosures finally start to happen on many levels, 911 included.



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    Decided to abandon the WTC 7 discussion, huh? 

    A few small fires

    A plane didn't even hit it



    I didnt abandon jack shit, its just boring arguing with people that believe the govts bullshit story.
    Heres the thing, you can believe what you want and i will believe what i want, because its not gonna make any difference anyways.
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    Decided to abandon the WTC 7 discussion, huh? 

    A few small fires

    A plane didn't even hit it



    I didnt abandon jack shit, its just boring arguing with people that believe the govts bullshit story.
    Heres the thing, you can believe what you want and i will believe what i want, because its not gonna make any difference anyways.
     
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    Mozart,
     Its useless arguing with guys like Hutch, he is very closed minded and believes what the govt tells him to believe.
    You see there are leaders in the world and then there are sheep in the world.  Guess which one he is?
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    Mozart,
     Its useless arguing with guys like Hutch, he is very closed minded and believes what the govt tells him to believe.
    You see there are leaders in the world and then there are sheep in the world.  Guess which one he is?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    The same questions I asked you for the last couple of years.

     

    1]  Why is there only 1 film released at the Pentagon with at least dozens of cameras that must have captured it.....Please don't say they are thinking of the families best interest.

     

    You saw the only film they showed of something coming straight in....2] At 500 MPH how far do you think he could have stayed a couple of feet off the ground?  Picture it in your head.

     

    3] The teacher in the school that trained this pilot said that he could barely fly a 2 seater.....And pilots with 30 years of experience say that it is impossible to keep a plane a couple of feet off the ground at that speed.....How did this novice do that?

     

    4]  How did a huge plane fit in that small round hole without a dent from the engines? 

     

    Never mind the way they found uniforms and body parts but very little plane......the way building 7 fell [ damage or not it doesn't fall that way]....or a dozen other coincidences that happened that day.

     

    1-4 is good enough. 

     



    excellent post

    They will never release any videos, because they will clearly show a missile of missiles hitting the Pentagon
    Why do think the FBI rushed to all the stores to gather up the video tapes, because they never wanted them to be seen by anybody. Worried about gathering the tapes afterwards, but didnt give a shit about stopping a plane heading towards the Pentagon

    You dont have to be an expert at anything to know a plane didnt hit the Pentagon after looking at the damage to the building.
    Only friggin sheep will believe that story
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    The same questions I asked you for the last couple of years.

     

    1]  Why is there only 1 film released at the Pentagon with at least dozens of cameras that must have captured it.....Please don't say they are thinking of the families best interest.

     

    You saw the only film they showed of something coming straight in....2] At 500 MPH how far do you think he could have stayed a couple of feet off the ground?  Picture it in your head.

     

    3] The teacher in the school that trained this pilot said that he could barely fly a 2 seater.....And pilots with 30 years of experience say that it is impossible to keep a plane a couple of feet off the ground at that speed.....How did this novice do that?

     

    4]  How did a huge plane fit in that small round hole without a dent from the engines? 

     

    Never mind the way they found uniforms and body parts but very little plane......the way building 7 fell [ damage or not it doesn't fall that way]....or a dozen other coincidences that happened that day.

     

    1-4 is good enough. 

     



    excellent post

    They will never release any videos, because they will clearly show a missile of missiles hitting the Pentagon
    Why do think the FBI rushed to all the stores to gather up the video tapes, because they never wanted them to be seen by anybody. Worried about gathering the tapes afterwards, but didnt give a shit about stopping a plane heading towards the Pentagon

    You dont have to be an expert at anything to know a plane didnt hit the Pentagon after looking at the damage to the building.
    Only friggin sheep will believe that story
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Mozart,
     Its useless arguing with guys like Hutch, he is very closed minded and believes what the govt tells him to believe.
    You see there are leaders in the world and then there are sheep in the world.  Guess which one he is?


    Hmmmmmm, leessee, I'll wager that he'll get sheared, big-time, when the truth of 911 finally emerges within the next few months!

    It'll be a wild 'n wooly time for those sheople who stubbornly believe in the Big Lie. They'd make George Orwell's Animal Farm a true-life story with those "Four legs good, two legs bad" sheep.

    coldsnap55, PoknSmot and cd329 ...    Good stuff!
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    Mozart,
     Its useless arguing with guys like Hutch, he is very closed minded and believes what the govt tells him to believe.
    You see there are leaders in the world and then there are sheep in the world.  Guess which one he is?


    Hmmmmmm, leessee, I'll wager that he'll get sheared, big-time, when the truth of 911 finally emerges within the next few months!

    It'll be a wild 'n wooly time for those sheople who stubbornly believe in the Big Lie. They'd make George Orwell's Animal Farm a true-life story with those "Four legs good, two legs bad" sheep.

    coldsnap55, PoknSmot and cd329 ...    Good stuff!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2011 - 8:35 PM ET #137

    My god we're still on this.......

     

     

    What are we arguing and I'll see if I can shed some light.....

     

    Are we arguing that there really were no terrorists?

    Are we arguing that it was staged?

    Are we arguing that the government knew and let happen?

    Are we arguing that the government planned the attack?

    Are we arguing if Bob had anything to do with it?

    Are we arguing that buildings couldn't fall like they did without being on fire for hours, which is based on previous burning buildings and when they fell. Therefore it was a demolition?

    Are we arguing that they didn't fall like they would in a demolition?

    Are we arguing that no other tall buildings have ever been hit by a plane and then fell?

    Are we arguing why the Pentagon didn't and still does not have a solid No Fly Zone around it because of the Ronald Reagan Airport?

    Are we arguing that we did or did not shoot the plane down, even though eyewitnesses said they saw a ball of fire in the sky as it was going down?

    Are we arguing that Tower 7 fell because so much debris hit that it fell like it would if it were a demolition?

    Are we arguing that if Tower 7 had an entire corner wiped out why didn't it topple over instead of fall straight to the ground ?

    Are we arguing to argue?

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    My god we're still on this.......

     

     

    What are we arguing and I'll see if I can shed some light.....

     

    Are we arguing that there really were no terrorists?

    Are we arguing that it was staged?

    Are we arguing that the government knew and let happen?

    Are we arguing that the government planned the attack?

    Are we arguing if Bob had anything to do with it?

    Are we arguing that buildings couldn't fall like they did without being on fire for hours, which is based on previous burning buildings and when they fell. Therefore it was a demolition?

    Are we arguing that they didn't fall like they would in a demolition?

    Are we arguing that no other tall buildings have ever been hit by a plane and then fell?

    Are we arguing why the Pentagon didn't and still does not have a solid No Fly Zone around it because of the Ronald Reagan Airport?

    Are we arguing that we did or did not shoot the plane down, even though eyewitnesses said they saw a ball of fire in the sky as it was going down?

    Are we arguing that Tower 7 fell because so much debris hit that it fell like it would if it were a demolition?

    Are we arguing that if Tower 7 had an entire corner wiped out why didn't it topple over instead of fall straight to the ground ?

    Are we arguing to argue?

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    the US government isnt capable of pulling off something like 9/11. hundred thousand people would have to be in on it. NOT ONE ENGINEER OR DEMO EXPERT AGREES WITH THIS STUPID FUCKIN CONSPIRACY. STOP SPREADING IT
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    the US government isnt capable of pulling off something like 9/11. hundred thousand people would have to be in on it. NOT ONE ENGINEER OR DEMO EXPERT AGREES WITH THIS STUPID FUCKIN CONSPIRACY. STOP SPREADING IT
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd329:

    Mozart,
     Its useless arguing with guys like Hutch, he is very closed minded and believes what the govt tells him to believe.
    You see there are leaders in the world and then there are sheep in the world.  Guess which one he is?

    Fitting you make one of the dumbest statements every......your not a stubborn closed minded prick at all.  You have shown in this thread you are very open minded.........NOT
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    Mozart,
     Its useless arguing with guys like Hutch, he is very closed minded and believes what the govt tells him to believe.
    You see there are leaders in the world and then there are sheep in the world.  Guess which one he is?

    Fitting you make one of the dumbest statements every......your not a stubborn closed minded prick at all.  You have shown in this thread you are very open minded.........NOT
     
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    The 'not' joke Nice.
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    The 'not' joke Nice.
     
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    Hutch....

    In post #129 ....Even though I don't agree with your answers at least you have put some thought and research into them.....unlike the dopes that just want people that don't agree with them dead. 

    I'm not gonna break them down because it's getting tiresome and leading nowhere.......Until they show a picture of a passanger plane close to the Pentagon I will not believe. 

    As far as "Inside Job" goes.....I think your government or agencies knew about what the Terrorists had planned and took advantage of it.

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    Hutch....

    In post #129 ....Even though I don't agree with your answers at least you have put some thought and research into them.....unlike the dopes that just want people that don't agree with them dead. 

    I'm not gonna break them down because it's getting tiresome and leading nowhere.......Until they show a picture of a passanger plane close to the Pentagon I will not believe. 

    As far as "Inside Job" goes.....I think your government or agencies knew about what the Terrorists had planned and took advantage of it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    The 'not' joke Nice.

    Don't make fun of the guy he has added a lot of valuable thoughts and info to this thread.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spitfire15:

    The 'not' joke Nice.

    Don't make fun of the guy he has added a lot of valuable thoughts and info to this thread.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allbutbroke:


    Fitting you make one of the dumbest statements every......your not a stubborn closed minded prick at all.  You have shown in this thread you are very open minded.........NOT


    is that all you got
    news flash for you. I had an open mind and saw the govts report and in my opinion using my own brain, its all bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allbutbroke:


    Fitting you make one of the dumbest statements every......your not a stubborn closed minded prick at all.  You have shown in this thread you are very open minded.........NOT


    is that all you got
    news flash for you. I had an open mind and saw the govts report and in my opinion using my own brain, its all bullshit.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by laker510:

    the US government isnt capable of pulling off something like 9/11. hundred thousand people would have to be in on it. NOT ONE ENGINEER OR DEMO EXPERT AGREES WITH THIS STUPID FUCKIN CONSPIRACY. STOP SPREADING IT


    First off nobody said the US govt pulled this off, but also you have to be a fool not to believe that our govt doesnt have the technology and elite teams of people to pull something like this off.
     I lean more to our govt knowing and helping to a certain degree. I think it was done by the powerful people around the world who really control govts and the very powerful defense contractors who stood to make trillions of dollars selling their stuff. They need wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laker510:

    the US government isnt capable of pulling off something like 9/11. hundred thousand people would have to be in on it. NOT ONE ENGINEER OR DEMO EXPERT AGREES WITH THIS STUPID FUCKIN CONSPIRACY. STOP SPREADING IT


    First off nobody said the US govt pulled this off, but also you have to be a fool not to believe that our govt doesnt have the technology and elite teams of people to pull something like this off.
     I lean more to our govt knowing and helping to a certain degree. I think it was done by the powerful people around the world who really control govts and the very powerful defense contractors who stood to make trillions of dollars selling their stuff. They need wars.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by laker510:

    the US government isnt capable of pulling off something like 9/11. hundred thousand people would have to be in on it. NOT ONE ENGINEER OR DEMO EXPERT AGREES WITH THIS STUPID FUCKIN CONSPIRACY. STOP SPREADING IT


    maybe you should read the links that Mozart posted and you will see you are wrong about engineers and demo experts not believing this conspiracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laker510:

    the US government isnt capable of pulling off something like 9/11. hundred thousand people would have to be in on it. NOT ONE ENGINEER OR DEMO EXPERT AGREES WITH THIS STUPID FUCKIN CONSPIRACY. STOP SPREADING IT


    maybe you should read the links that Mozart posted and you will see you are wrong about engineers and demo experts not believing this conspiracy.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    Hutch....

    In post #129 ....Even though I don't agree with your answers at least you have put some thought and research into them.....unlike the dopes that just want people that don't agree with them dead. 

    I'm not gonna break them down because it's getting tiresome and leading nowhere.......Until they show a picture of a passanger plane close to the Pentagon I will not believe. 

    As far as "Inside Job" goes.....I think your government or agencies knew about what the Terrorists had planned and took advantage of it.



    I agree.  Why doesnt the govt just show a few pictures of the plane heading towards the Pentagon and one clear vdieo of a plane heading towards the pentagon?  It sure would shut us conspiracy nuts up, thats for sure.
    they cant do it because there was no plane that hit the building, thats why.
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    Hutch....

    In post #129 ....Even though I don't agree with your answers at least you have put some thought and research into them.....unlike the dopes that just want people that don't agree with them dead. 

    I'm not gonna break them down because it's getting tiresome and leading nowhere.......Until they show a picture of a passanger plane close to the Pentagon I will not believe. 

    As far as "Inside Job" goes.....I think your government or agencies knew about what the Terrorists had planned and took advantage of it.



    I agree.  Why doesnt the govt just show a few pictures of the plane heading towards the Pentagon and one clear vdieo of a plane heading towards the pentagon?  It sure would shut us conspiracy nuts up, thats for sure.
    they cant do it because there was no plane that hit the building, thats why.
     
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    Same reason why they will not show pictures of Osama Bin Laden's death......even though many American people wanted to see them....
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    Same reason why they will not show pictures of Osama Bin Laden's death......even though many American people wanted to see them....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ABooksNightmare:

    Same reason why they will not show pictures of Osama Bin Laden's death......even though many American people wanted to see them....


    OBL happened to be dead for many years previous
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    Same reason why they will not show pictures of Osama Bin Laden's death......even though many American people wanted to see them....


    OBL happened to be dead for many years previous
     
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    I have a real suggestion for you Americans....and chiming in CDN's

    How about you start worrying more about your fucking economy and ways to improve it or your own situation, cause damn it is scary and your country is going to take down all of North America before we know it.

    If you want to start a meaningful thread Mozart, how about something like "What can we individually do about this economy" Or "Does anyone have a job for me?" Or maybe "Does anyone have some good advice to help me through these shitty times or economic suggestions"?

    Who knows about the Trade Center. Personally I find it hard to believe a GOV doing this, but am not completely opposed to to hearing things. However, that is all. Just hearing things! Why? Because right North America is in a bad state. Well mainly just you guys down south but it scares me enough to know over time it will effect us up here too! Get over this stupid Trade Center dribble and start worrying about the current situation and thinking of the America for your children and your future. Cause I assure you, America crashing and going through a massive depression will bring about much more horror then things in the WTC.
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    I have a real suggestion for you Americans....and chiming in CDN's

    How about you start worrying more about your fucking economy and ways to improve it or your own situation, cause damn it is scary and your country is going to take down all of North America before we know it.

    If you want to start a meaningful thread Mozart, how about something like "What can we individually do about this economy" Or "Does anyone have a job for me?" Or maybe "Does anyone have some good advice to help me through these shitty times or economic suggestions"?

    Who knows about the Trade Center. Personally I find it hard to believe a GOV doing this, but am not completely opposed to to hearing things. However, that is all. Just hearing things! Why? Because right North America is in a bad state. Well mainly just you guys down south but it scares me enough to know over time it will effect us up here too! Get over this stupid Trade Center dribble and start worrying about the current situation and thinking of the America for your children and your future. Cause I assure you, America crashing and going through a massive depression will bring about much more horror then things in the WTC.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by minion0812:


    If you want to start a meaningful thread Mozart, how about something like "What can we individually do about this economy"

    ...Cause I assure you, America crashing and going through a massive depression will bring about much more horror then things in the WTC.


    minion0812 -- Very good suggestion and I'll do as you suggest.

    The reason why I started this thread was to try to wake up a few minds, but I doubt that I've succeeded.

    911 was the linchpin, the "New Pearl Harbor" (as suggested by Project for a New American Century, by Zbigniew Brzezinski) that was the KEY trigger for the endless wars of aggression by America in the Middle East that continues to this day.

    And it is those wars that are a huge part of the massive drain on the American economy, which indeed, is collapsing as we know it.
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    If you want to start a meaningful thread Mozart, how about something like "What can we individually do about this economy"

    ...Cause I assure you, America crashing and going through a massive depression will bring about much more horror then things in the WTC.


    minion0812 -- Very good suggestion and I'll do as you suggest.

    The reason why I started this thread was to try to wake up a few minds, but I doubt that I've succeeded.

    911 was the linchpin, the "New Pearl Harbor" (as suggested by Project for a New American Century, by Zbigniew Brzezinski) that was the KEY trigger for the endless wars of aggression by America in the Middle East that continues to this day.

    And it is those wars that are a huge part of the massive drain on the American economy, which indeed, is collapsing as we know it.
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