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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2012 - 4:16 PM ET #176

    Atlas. your last update was 11/17. Any new opinions with the S&Pclosing at 1402 today with no deal on the fiscal cliff on 12/28?
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    Posted: Dec. 29, 2012 - 8:35 AM ET #177

    Haven't been able to review all the charts just yet for this week's close.  I'll probably do it watching the Pats game tomorrow and throw something up here. 
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2012 - 2:22 AM ET #178

    Atlas is off the forum for almost 6 weeks and watching football games. Why care what he says?  
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    Posted: Jan. 1, 2013 - 12:46 PM ET #179

    yawn/// wat the fack
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2013 - 2:59 PM ET #180

    Quote Originally Posted by atlasshrugged:

    Haven't been able to review all the charts just yet for this week's close.  I'll probably do it watching the Pats game tomorrow and throw something up here. 

    Credability has been lost it seems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlasshrugged:

    Haven't been able to review all the charts just yet for this week's close.  I'll probably do it watching the Pats game tomorrow and throw something up here. 

    Credability has been lost it seems?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2013 - 9:32 AM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by gambler315:

    Credability has been lost it seems?

    Come on man at least spell "credibility" correctly if you are going to insinuate someone has lost credibility. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambler315:

    Credability has been lost it seems?

    Come on man at least spell "credibility" correctly if you are going to insinuate someone has lost credibility. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2013 - 9:52 AM ET #182

    The reason why I did not jump in here as frequently as before among other reasons is because I didn't see the need to discuss "more of the same" and I wanted to observe the market reaction to yet "more of the same".  When I made a statement at that time it was reliant on whether or not there were two straight weekly closes below 1360 on ES with increasing volume.  I was clear on that.  There were not two consecutive such closes.

     

    Given that, and yet more monetary easing announced and/or jawboned we obviously saw another rally which is not surprising.  This is what I mean by "more of the same".  The Fed announced more QE though it had already announced it would do this and basically came out one month after stating it was possible to in fact affirm it would increase money printing to $85 Billion/month into perpetuity.  Sure enough this occured just as the charts were "on the edge" thus confirming my belief that Bernanke and his troops are very aware of the technicals and make announcements at certain times for very specific reasons.  They know this is a house of cards and they are doing their best to try and kick the can down the road as far as they can for as long as they can.  This is the reaction I wanted to observe. 

    Given that, nothing has changed in terms of the central banks around the world doing anything and everything to intervene to artifically prop up ES, EURUSD, and the Dax in that order of priority.  At this point it appears to me that this latest attempt to do just that is running out of steam. 

    I'll touch on the charts as there is now a more distinct possibility that both an intermediate term top and long term top is forming.  Regarding the fundamentals they are more deplorable than they were in the late fall and I highlight a couple of observations:

    - there is an enormous, mind boggling disparity between US equity strength and many, many key macro indicators most notably the performance of high yield debt, credit markets overall, and indicatiors such as the price of copper.  In other words, stocks have been floating in la la land on their own beyond levels on a relative basis not seen since 2007/2008.  High yield debt and credit overall has a very strong track record of anticipating reality.

    - despite every central bank in the world propping up EURUSD and trying to hurt the USD that son of a gun USD just won't break down and in fact has rallied sharply in recent weeks.  The "strength" of EURUSD is/was intended to fool the speep into believing "all is well" with the Eurozone financial system but that same "strength" substantially hurts the alredy decimated Eurozone economies so in the end as usual there is no free lunch.  A stronger and rising USD does not help risk assets. 

    - markets not artificially supported by Bernanke such as gold, silver, and the Shanghai composite continue to reflect what the charts can and do predict accurately.  In other words, if Bernanke is not literally buying a certain market through the primary dealers then the charts are very accurate at telling you what is really going on.  I note that the metals (as I consistently stated in various threads here) continue to grind out their decline within their downtrends.  the Shanghai Composite has also stayed within its long term downtrend channel.  These tell you something about risk assets when uncle benny is not there to scratch your back each and every day.  Obviously, the last thing Bernanke would support is rising gold for example as it could/would suggest a potential panic and loss of faith in the very house of cards he worked so hard to support!     

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    The reason why I did not jump in here as frequently as before among other reasons is because I didn't see the need to discuss "more of the same" and I wanted to observe the market reaction to yet "more of the same".  When I made a statement at that time it was reliant on whether or not there were two straight weekly closes below 1360 on ES with increasing volume.  I was clear on that.  There were not two consecutive such closes.

     

    Given that, and yet more monetary easing announced and/or jawboned we obviously saw another rally which is not surprising.  This is what I mean by "more of the same".  The Fed announced more QE though it had already announced it would do this and basically came out one month after stating it was possible to in fact affirm it would increase money printing to $85 Billion/month into perpetuity.  Sure enough this occured just as the charts were "on the edge" thus confirming my belief that Bernanke and his troops are very aware of the technicals and make announcements at certain times for very specific reasons.  They know this is a house of cards and they are doing their best to try and kick the can down the road as far as they can for as long as they can.  This is the reaction I wanted to observe. 

    Given that, nothing has changed in terms of the central banks around the world doing anything and everything to intervene to artifically prop up ES, EURUSD, and the Dax in that order of priority.  At this point it appears to me that this latest attempt to do just that is running out of steam. 

    I'll touch on the charts as there is now a more distinct possibility that both an intermediate term top and long term top is forming.  Regarding the fundamentals they are more deplorable than they were in the late fall and I highlight a couple of observations:

    - there is an enormous, mind boggling disparity between US equity strength and many, many key macro indicators most notably the performance of high yield debt, credit markets overall, and indicatiors such as the price of copper.  In other words, stocks have been floating in la la land on their own beyond levels on a relative basis not seen since 2007/2008.  High yield debt and credit overall has a very strong track record of anticipating reality.

    - despite every central bank in the world propping up EURUSD and trying to hurt the USD that son of a gun USD just won't break down and in fact has rallied sharply in recent weeks.  The "strength" of EURUSD is/was intended to fool the speep into believing "all is well" with the Eurozone financial system but that same "strength" substantially hurts the alredy decimated Eurozone economies so in the end as usual there is no free lunch.  A stronger and rising USD does not help risk assets. 

    - markets not artificially supported by Bernanke such as gold, silver, and the Shanghai composite continue to reflect what the charts can and do predict accurately.  In other words, if Bernanke is not literally buying a certain market through the primary dealers then the charts are very accurate at telling you what is really going on.  I note that the metals (as I consistently stated in various threads here) continue to grind out their decline within their downtrends.  the Shanghai Composite has also stayed within its long term downtrend channel.  These tell you something about risk assets when uncle benny is not there to scratch your back each and every day.  Obviously, the last thing Bernanke would support is rising gold for example as it could/would suggest a potential panic and loss of faith in the very house of cards he worked so hard to support!     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2013 - 10:03 AM ET #183

    Regarding the charts and the Spider I am observing the following:

    - 1495 and 1497 as possible walls for this bounceback we see so far this morning.  1510-1512 as well.  If it can't break powerfully above these then it may indicate the trend is changing.  If this rally were to keep moving higher there should be a strong reaction to the upside in the very near future.

    - 1470-1473 would be my expectation if said bounce does not take place above the levels mentioned above. 

     

    More to follow possibly after today on longer term implications. 

    As usual, I have stated very clearly that ES is the target of the Fed.  Thus, at any point in time some type of action, bailout, jawboning, etc. can swing things wildly.  The pattern has been that when things look like they are heading opposite of what the Fed is trying to decieve you into believing (which is that "everything is fine" and AAPL will go straight to $2,000) then that is when they step in with some type of action.  Each subsequent rally from intervention has had a shorter and shorter duration and this one is following that pattern.  I know this and Bernanke knows this.  We will see how they react to this but nothing should surprise anyone. 

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    Regarding the charts and the Spider I am observing the following:

    - 1495 and 1497 as possible walls for this bounceback we see so far this morning.  1510-1512 as well.  If it can't break powerfully above these then it may indicate the trend is changing.  If this rally were to keep moving higher there should be a strong reaction to the upside in the very near future.

    - 1470-1473 would be my expectation if said bounce does not take place above the levels mentioned above. 

     

    More to follow possibly after today on longer term implications. 

    As usual, I have stated very clearly that ES is the target of the Fed.  Thus, at any point in time some type of action, bailout, jawboning, etc. can swing things wildly.  The pattern has been that when things look like they are heading opposite of what the Fed is trying to decieve you into believing (which is that "everything is fine" and AAPL will go straight to $2,000) then that is when they step in with some type of action.  Each subsequent rally from intervention has had a shorter and shorter duration and this one is following that pattern.  I know this and Bernanke knows this.  We will see how they react to this but nothing should surprise anyone. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2013 - 10:09 AM ET #184

    Should note, not necessarily 1470-1473 today but within a couple trading todays (not that it couldn't happen today).  So far it has met resistance right at that 1495-1497.  today could be telling.  let's see how it trades from here.  A reversal to close barely up or down with volume picking up would not be good for the rally's chances. 
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    Should note, not necessarily 1470-1473 today but within a couple trading todays (not that it couldn't happen today).  So far it has met resistance right at that 1495-1497.  today could be telling.  let's see how it trades from here.  A reversal to close barely up or down with volume picking up would not be good for the rally's chances. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2013 - 4:08 PM ET #185

    Spider closed at 1496.97 almost exactly at the upper band of the short term top of the range of 1495-1497.  Little short off the 1497 touch this morning was all for me it's risky out there!

    Looked like after the European close Bernanke's soldiers were all hands on deck to prop up this pig as much as they could.  Need another day or so to see what shakes out.  No conviction yet that it's not just a bounce. 

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    Spider closed at 1496.97 almost exactly at the upper band of the short term top of the range of 1495-1497.  Little short off the 1497 touch this morning was all for me it's risky out there!

    Looked like after the European close Bernanke's soldiers were all hands on deck to prop up this pig as much as they could.  Need another day or so to see what shakes out.  No conviction yet that it's not just a bounce. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 28, 2013 - 12:52 PM ET #186

    Quote Originally Posted by atlasshrugged:

    Come on man at least spell "credibility" correctly if you are going to insinuate someone has lost credibility. 

    NP Atlas, just wanted your thoughts since you were gone for quite a while. My negativity seemed to work this time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlasshrugged:

    Come on man at least spell "credibility" correctly if you are going to insinuate someone has lost credibility. 

    NP Atlas, just wanted your thoughts since you were gone for quite a while. My negativity seemed to work this time?

     
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    Posted: Mar. 1, 2013 - 1:46 AM ET #187

    so this is the top? or in 3 months we see the top?
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    so this is the top? or in 3 months we see the top?
     
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    DOW 20k will be the top.
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2013 - 9:14 PM ET #189

    yawn, no one on investment or general disc forums anymore ? does that mean everyone has a job now?


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