Big rally today........my moving average on the daily chart is at 48.89.......we haven't been anywhere near it for months...we closed at 47.85 today, up 3.26$ on huge volumes late; IF the bullish attitude carries over into next week and the beginning of Febuary, we will trade to the topside of the SMA, and have some concrete inputs for a long term bottom call.
I choose my words carefully, because it is very easy to look like a big time assss in this arena when trying to pick bottoms or tops...that penetration of 44 even did not last long, and the huge gains came on fast. We may very well have seen the bottom of this crude market for the year and intermediate term.
I took my options plays this morning ..... these prices will reflect the prices at today's close instead of the open; I got down in the middle, but these prices err a bit to the high...not trying to grab credit post facto on the late day bump.
Long term options plays.....I am swinging for the fence here; it is easily the largest trade I have ever made...just figured I would post on this thread...sort of a "working journal".
Trading can be a bit of a lonely venture...so I guess letting 'er rip on Covers serves some purpose, some where......
Big rally today........my moving average on the daily chart is at 48.89.......we haven't been anywhere near it for months...we closed at 47.85 today, up 3.26$ on huge volumes late; IF the bullish attitude carries over into next week and the beginning of Febuary, we will trade to the topside of the SMA, and have some concrete inputs for a long term bottom call.
I choose my words carefully, because it is very easy to look like a big time assss in this arena when trying to pick bottoms or tops...that penetration of 44 even did not last long, and the huge gains came on fast. We may very well have seen the bottom of this crude market for the year and intermediate term.
I took my options plays this morning ..... these prices will reflect the prices at today's close instead of the open; I got down in the middle, but these prices err a bit to the high...not trying to grab credit post facto on the late day bump.
Long term options plays.....I am swinging for the fence here; it is easily the largest trade I have ever made...just figured I would post on this thread...sort of a "working journal".
Trading can be a bit of a lonely venture...so I guess letting 'er rip on Covers serves some purpose, some where......
Absolutely, Wall. This is not the bottom IMO... There may have been some short covering, but this is still not the panic sell in oil that will exhaust the buyers... that is the one component that is missing. . I don't think the selling is over.. I may consider RIG once all the buyers have been exhausted from this market.
Like I said earlier, the off-shore producers and oil services industries are going to feel the pain the most.
RIG, HAL, SLB. These are good names that will trade at a discount in the weeks, months ahead.
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Absolutely, Wall. This is not the bottom IMO... There may have been some short covering, but this is still not the panic sell in oil that will exhaust the buyers... that is the one component that is missing. . I don't think the selling is over.. I may consider RIG once all the buyers have been exhausted from this market.
Like I said earlier, the off-shore producers and oil services industries are going to feel the pain the most.
RIG, HAL, SLB. These are good names that will trade at a discount in the weeks, months ahead.
well, i made a killing on OAS, EOG and PGH took 70% off the table. Crude 54-56 short term. This is not the bottom, but you can make $$$ on the bounce (for months) we roll up to 60+, possibly 70 before heading back down. EW counts have us in primary 4 (up) then primary 5 wave down (for new lows). Good luck all..
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well, i made a killing on OAS, EOG and PGH took 70% off the table. Crude 54-56 short term. This is not the bottom, but you can make $$$ on the bounce (for months) we roll up to 60+, possibly 70 before heading back down. EW counts have us in primary 4 (up) then primary 5 wave down (for new lows). Good luck all..
CL is banging right now.....print high of 54.24 today...absolute breakaway trend on the 30minute chart.
Racked the September Calls @ today's high.... 11.81p/b
Almost doubled up in 4 days.....helll of a trade; too much value too fast to let it get away. Going to let the 2016 calls ride for now.
IF we test the 40's again, I may be looking to go back in to the Sept calls @ strike 50.50...but most likely that trade is shot.
FWIW, I have an upper Bollinger band at 54.22 on the March CL daily chart.....possible to see some chop sideways. I would expect some natural chop at 55.00. Will be waiting for a sell signal to develop in this range, but my gut is screaming for 75 in short order.
Congrats Caper03 on your trade......personally, I am not sold on Elliot Wave... I used to talk to an analyst at Elliot Wave International; it was his opinion that the black boxes and dark money pools made the Wave obsolete. Be that as it may, EW has a large number of followers; may lead to a self fulfilling prophecy.
Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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CL is banging right now.....print high of 54.24 today...absolute breakaway trend on the 30minute chart.
Racked the September Calls @ today's high.... 11.81p/b
Almost doubled up in 4 days.....helll of a trade; too much value too fast to let it get away. Going to let the 2016 calls ride for now.
IF we test the 40's again, I may be looking to go back in to the Sept calls @ strike 50.50...but most likely that trade is shot.
FWIW, I have an upper Bollinger band at 54.22 on the March CL daily chart.....possible to see some chop sideways. I would expect some natural chop at 55.00. Will be waiting for a sell signal to develop in this range, but my gut is screaming for 75 in short order.
Congrats Caper03 on your trade......personally, I am not sold on Elliot Wave... I used to talk to an analyst at Elliot Wave International; it was his opinion that the black boxes and dark money pools made the Wave obsolete. Be that as it may, EW has a large number of followers; may lead to a self fulfilling prophecy.
I don't just use EW, EW is 1 tool out of 50+ tools. Sentiment, Macro/political game theory, TA, proxies, pattern symmetry, experience etc.... I can list many tools that i use. I am confused by many EW counts. I am not smart enough to understand EW (subdividing/counts changing constantly) but i take information from everywhere and as long as it fits/works with my opinion/bias i use it. I keep things simple especially in this volatile market.
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I don't just use EW, EW is 1 tool out of 50+ tools. Sentiment, Macro/political game theory, TA, proxies, pattern symmetry, experience etc.... I can list many tools that i use. I am confused by many EW counts. I am not smart enough to understand EW (subdividing/counts changing constantly) but i take information from everywhere and as long as it fits/works with my opinion/bias i use it. I keep things simple especially in this volatile market.
I agree about the complexities of Elliot wave.....when those guys start getting into the subcounts, I have trouble keeping up. Studied one of the old books by Frost and Prechter, but all in all I am rube when it comes to doing the wave counts on the fly.
One thing is for sure...keeping it simple is the best approach. This Crude market is moving so fast, with so much volume, it is important to know what you are going to do before the situation presents itself.
Substantial sell-off after the pit close today.....right now up on the electronic open.....FWIW I have a sell signal down there at 4968..will be scalping the extremes of yesterdays range, but with such a huge range we may be looking at an inside day even with the EIA inventory # coming out.
Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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Thanks Caper03...... you too.
I agree about the complexities of Elliot wave.....when those guys start getting into the subcounts, I have trouble keeping up. Studied one of the old books by Frost and Prechter, but all in all I am rube when it comes to doing the wave counts on the fly.
One thing is for sure...keeping it simple is the best approach. This Crude market is moving so fast, with so much volume, it is important to know what you are going to do before the situation presents itself.
Substantial sell-off after the pit close today.....right now up on the electronic open.....FWIW I have a sell signal down there at 4968..will be scalping the extremes of yesterdays range, but with such a huge range we may be looking at an inside day even with the EIA inventory # coming out.
[Quote: Originally Posted by bigvern1013] OAS down .46 in premarket...CL trading inside of yesterday's range......51.91...wait and see mode for now. [/Quote
i have been playing it beautifully. Sold and went long that wednesday. market is rallying. Every greece dip is a buying opp. Contrarian game theory. NEgotiations aren't suppoes to be easy or someone will be getting the short end of the stick. I am still bullish but there aren't any certainties in thsi market! good luck all and ill see you at new highs in the spx by the end of the month.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by bigvern1013] OAS down .46 in premarket...CL trading inside of yesterday's range......51.91...wait and see mode for now. [/Quote
i have been playing it beautifully. Sold and went long that wednesday. market is rallying. Every greece dip is a buying opp. Contrarian game theory. NEgotiations aren't suppoes to be easy or someone will be getting the short end of the stick. I am still bullish but there aren't any certainties in thsi market! good luck all and ill see you at new highs in the spx by the end of the month.
OAS down .46 in premarket...CL trading inside of yesterday's range......51.91...wait and see mode for now. [/Quotei have been playing it beautifully. Sold and went long that wednesday. market is rallying. Every greece dip is a buying opp. Contrarian game theory. NEgotiations aren't suppoes to be easy or someone will be getting the short end of the stick. I am still bullish but there aren't any certainties in thsi market! good luck all and ill see you at new highs in the spx by the end of the month.
Every dip is a buying opp!! Woo hooo
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OAS down .46 in premarket...CL trading inside of yesterday's range......51.91...wait and see mode for now. [/Quotei have been playing it beautifully. Sold and went long that wednesday. market is rallying. Every greece dip is a buying opp. Contrarian game theory. NEgotiations aren't suppoes to be easy or someone will be getting the short end of the stick. I am still bullish but there aren't any certainties in thsi market! good luck all and ill see you at new highs in the spx by the end of the month.
I'll be bullish for another month or so give or take a couple weeks. I'll keep ya'll posted but I will start to build a short position in certain indices - sometime mid march (estimate). We need the bulls to come out in full force. No dogmatic bulls/bears will win in this market. Hopefully, we can get that 10%-12% dip soon so I can buy it up. 20% pullback would be amazingggggg! Good luck and don't be scared of volatility, embrace it and make $$$$$
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I'll be bullish for another month or so give or take a couple weeks. I'll keep ya'll posted but I will start to build a short position in certain indices - sometime mid march (estimate). We need the bulls to come out in full force. No dogmatic bulls/bears will win in this market. Hopefully, we can get that 10%-12% dip soon so I can buy it up. 20% pullback would be amazingggggg! Good luck and don't be scared of volatility, embrace it and make $$$$$
53.00 dollar print as I type this.on the march cl....looks like we may have based out on the last test under 50.00$.
Big psyche number at last weeks high of 53.99....last week was an inside week, so I would be looking for a runner over 54.00 at some point, possibly before the roll.
We will be rolling over to the April contract this week for CL...april is currently trading at 53.87$...new set of levels will come on with april, I will break them down after the roll.
Like always, in wait and see mode, but we are beginning to see confirmation that this train is headed north.....no sustained pressure under 50.00 even; as we head into the Spring months we could easily see a test of 60 even in early March.
Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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53.00 dollar print as I type this.on the march cl....looks like we may have based out on the last test under 50.00$.
Big psyche number at last weeks high of 53.99....last week was an inside week, so I would be looking for a runner over 54.00 at some point, possibly before the roll.
We will be rolling over to the April contract this week for CL...april is currently trading at 53.87$...new set of levels will come on with april, I will break them down after the roll.
Like always, in wait and see mode, but we are beginning to see confirmation that this train is headed north.....no sustained pressure under 50.00 even; as we head into the Spring months we could easily see a test of 60 even in early March.
be careful here the increased demand is due to severe cold in eastern usa and Europe. Make no mistake alternative energies is a serious threat to Saudi Arabia as well as interest in the oil game. The new king of Saudi Arabia wants anything at this point and all indications is to over flood the market with light sweet crude make alternative energy too expensive when the demand for number 2 heating oil diminishes the market will again start to fall in my humble opinion.
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be careful here the increased demand is due to severe cold in eastern usa and Europe. Make no mistake alternative energies is a serious threat to Saudi Arabia as well as interest in the oil game. The new king of Saudi Arabia wants anything at this point and all indications is to over flood the market with light sweet crude make alternative energy too expensive when the demand for number 2 heating oil diminishes the market will again start to fall in my humble opinion.
be careful here the increased demand is due to severe cold in eastern usa and Europe. Make no mistake alternative energies is a serious threat to Saudi Arabia as well as interest in the oil game. The new king of Saudi Arabia wants anything at this point and all indications is to over flood the market with light sweet crude make alternative energy too expensive when the demand for number 2 heating oil diminishes the market will again start to fall in my humble opinion.
i took it as a buying opp, imo. But what do I know. I just trade..
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be careful here the increased demand is due to severe cold in eastern usa and Europe. Make no mistake alternative energies is a serious threat to Saudi Arabia as well as interest in the oil game. The new king of Saudi Arabia wants anything at this point and all indications is to over flood the market with light sweet crude make alternative energy too expensive when the demand for number 2 heating oil diminishes the market will again start to fall in my humble opinion.
i took it as a buying opp, imo. But what do I know. I just trade..
buying common and long dated calls in a bunch of oil related companies (adding by tomorrow and through out the next couple weeks). rig, cvx, adding some to get
back to a full position in eog - same with oas, sdrl, slb, oxy, possibly rexx .until q3 - q3 end. wti futures $69 (38.2% fib retrace) or $78 (50% fib retrace) on deck. follow at your own risk!
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buying common and long dated calls in a bunch of oil related companies (adding by tomorrow and through out the next couple weeks). rig, cvx, adding some to get
back to a full position in eog - same with oas, sdrl, slb, oxy, possibly rexx .until q3 - q3 end. wti futures $69 (38.2% fib retrace) or $78 (50% fib retrace) on deck. follow at your own risk!
Chop.....just sort of chopping sideways, trading the hellll out of 50.00 everyday. Classic consolidation on the daily CL chart.
We will see what happens from here....the break of the April contract under the previous week's low is big....we may see the April CL test under the 45.00 range, and yes, it is a bit of a surprise to me.
The scalping has been good with such huge volumes everyday, but another long-term position entry point is not in the cards until we trade under the 45.00 level.
With Feb drawing to a close, I look for march to head north of where we are now....but the optimal scenario is to test the lows down there at 44-40 range. IF that scenario develops, I will be looking to hammer some more September calls.
Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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Chop.....just sort of chopping sideways, trading the hellll out of 50.00 everyday. Classic consolidation on the daily CL chart.
We will see what happens from here....the break of the April contract under the previous week's low is big....we may see the April CL test under the 45.00 range, and yes, it is a bit of a surprise to me.
The scalping has been good with such huge volumes everyday, but another long-term position entry point is not in the cards until we trade under the 45.00 level.
With Feb drawing to a close, I look for march to head north of where we are now....but the optimal scenario is to test the lows down there at 44-40 range. IF that scenario develops, I will be looking to hammer some more September calls.
stopped out of UWTI - for net loss of 10%. Loaded up in spy march 3 and march 4 206 calls at the close and will be buying the dips to 2019-2022. I also loaded up in to aapl at the close. I will be adding the april 125 calls all the way down to 120. With a stop at 119. Good luck! I own a bunch of rig common avg 15.xx, along with oas avg 13.xx and eog with avg $85.xx had some from lower. I also added to my pgh position back to half a position. STAY SCARED EVERYONE!! It is possible to make new lows in WTI before a bounce. But I am holding here. BANKS WILL BE THE PLAY FOR 2015. just look at the ten year................ New highs before Q2 pullback
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stopped out of UWTI - for net loss of 10%. Loaded up in spy march 3 and march 4 206 calls at the close and will be buying the dips to 2019-2022. I also loaded up in to aapl at the close. I will be adding the april 125 calls all the way down to 120. With a stop at 119. Good luck! I own a bunch of rig common avg 15.xx, along with oas avg 13.xx and eog with avg $85.xx had some from lower. I also added to my pgh position back to half a position. STAY SCARED EVERYONE!! It is possible to make new lows in WTI before a bounce. But I am holding here. BANKS WILL BE THE PLAY FOR 2015. just look at the ten year................ New highs before Q2 pullback
i actually caught some of this pullback in the indices but since I didn't post it, I won't talk about it. back on feb/-16 i stated a pullback was coming. This is not it. Too many bears on this ride. I actually sold my remaining puts at the close and went long 1/3 position and will be adding to it. Under 2018 I will close out for a loss. A lot of support to the long side here. As you can see I bought March 3 and March 4 so short term ride up possible to first week of April, before another elevator down.
As you know my opinions/positions change as the market changes. This is how I am playing it. Good luck everyone.
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i actually caught some of this pullback in the indices but since I didn't post it, I won't talk about it. back on feb/-16 i stated a pullback was coming. This is not it. Too many bears on this ride. I actually sold my remaining puts at the close and went long 1/3 position and will be adding to it. Under 2018 I will close out for a loss. A lot of support to the long side here. As you can see I bought March 3 and March 4 so short term ride up possible to first week of April, before another elevator down.
As you know my opinions/positions change as the market changes. This is how I am playing it. Good luck everyone.
Chop.....just sort of chopping sideways, trading the hellll out of 50.00 everyday. Classic consolidation on the daily CL chart.
We will see what happens from here....the break of the April contract under the previous week's low is big....we may see the April CL test under the 45.00 range, and yes, it is a bit of a surprise to me.
The scalping has been good with such huge volumes everyday, but another long-term position entry point is not in the cards until we trade under the 45.00 level.
With Feb drawing to a close, I look for march to head north of where we are now....but the optimal scenario is to test the lows down there at 44-40 range. IF that scenario develops, I will be looking to hammer some more September calls.
I can tell you know how to trade.. Can you look at NUGT and tell me what you think. Thanks
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Chop.....just sort of chopping sideways, trading the hellll out of 50.00 everyday. Classic consolidation on the daily CL chart.
We will see what happens from here....the break of the April contract under the previous week's low is big....we may see the April CL test under the 45.00 range, and yes, it is a bit of a surprise to me.
The scalping has been good with such huge volumes everyday, but another long-term position entry point is not in the cards until we trade under the 45.00 level.
With Feb drawing to a close, I look for march to head north of where we are now....but the optimal scenario is to test the lows down there at 44-40 range. IF that scenario develops, I will be looking to hammer some more September calls.
I can tell you know how to trade.. Can you look at NUGT and tell me what you think. Thanks
Banks are long the treasury complex across the board..how does rates going up help the banks in any way?
Banks long these bonds, notes etc will get smacked down and if the FED raises the discount rate, their cheap zero money is no longer..they will get squeezed on margins and the cost to leverage goes up quite a bit.
Higher rates are bad for banks...
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banks are the trade?
Banks are long the treasury complex across the board..how does rates going up help the banks in any way?
Banks long these bonds, notes etc will get smacked down and if the FED raises the discount rate, their cheap zero money is no longer..they will get squeezed on margins and the cost to leverage goes up quite a bit.
banks are the trade?Banks are long the treasury complex across the board..how does rates going up help the banks in any way?Banks long these bonds, notes etc will get smacked down and if the FED raises the discount rate, their cheap zero money is no longer..they will get squeezed on margins and the cost to leverage goes up quite a bit.Higher rates are bad for banks...
Rates rising are good for bank profits....I don't think I need to explain to you how most banks make their money.
"If the fed raises the discount rate " - this can be debated. Given the rise of the dollar, I don't think we see a rate increase in June. Let alone 2015.
Good luck with your trades...
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banks are the trade?Banks are long the treasury complex across the board..how does rates going up help the banks in any way?Banks long these bonds, notes etc will get smacked down and if the FED raises the discount rate, their cheap zero money is no longer..they will get squeezed on margins and the cost to leverage goes up quite a bit.Higher rates are bad for banks...
Rates rising are good for bank profits....I don't think I need to explain to you how most banks make their money.
"If the fed raises the discount rate " - this can be debated. Given the rise of the dollar, I don't think we see a rate increase in June. Let alone 2015.
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