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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2013 - 1:10 PM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by Stew Baker:

    Was living in Vegas at the time, sitting on about 4K, and both I and a buddy of mine, who was a much bigger bettor, both liked the Trailblazers at  +4 1/2 at Utah the following day. We decided to get up early, and one of us would line up at the Hilton and the other would go to the Stardust, the two paces who put up the opening line at 8:00, to try to get our bet in at our target number (actually the Stardust had a lottery to draw for places in line). I wanted to be in for 600, and he wanted to bet 2100, for a 2700 total. The plan was  for,whoever could get +4 1/2, which could have been one of us, or both, or neither, (we couldn't be in contact as they didn't allow cell phones in the booksbook) would play for 1800. So if we both found the number, we would have 33% over what we wanted, and if just one got the number, we would be 33% under, but the important thing was that we had two shots at opening numbers.

    Anyway, both houses had the game at 4 1/2, but somehow we got screwed up and ended up with 2000 over instead of 900. Now this guy could be a bit of a prick, and he insisted that we should split the overage, although logically it should have been proportioned out. Well, I got aggravated trying to argue with him, and I must have been feeling the game a bit and I said, screw it I'll take the whole two dimes.

    I tabbed that bet as my "suitcase bet," if it went down I was packing my suitcase. But, the suitcase stayed in the closet, as the Blazers took the lead in the third quarter, and never looked back. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stew Baker:

    Was living in Vegas at the time, sitting on about 4K, and both I and a buddy of mine, who was a much bigger bettor, both liked the Trailblazers at  +4 1/2 at Utah the following day. We decided to get up early, and one of us would line up at the Hilton and the other would go to the Stardust, the two paces who put up the opening line at 8:00, to try to get our bet in at our target number (actually the Stardust had a lottery to draw for places in line). I wanted to be in for 600, and he wanted to bet 2100, for a 2700 total. The plan was  for,whoever could get +4 1/2, which could have been one of us, or both, or neither, (we couldn't be in contact as they didn't allow cell phones in the booksbook) would play for 1800. So if we both found the number, we would have 33% over what we wanted, and if just one got the number, we would be 33% under, but the important thing was that we had two shots at opening numbers.

    Anyway, both houses had the game at 4 1/2, but somehow we got screwed up and ended up with 2000 over instead of 900. Now this guy could be a bit of a prick, and he insisted that we should split the overage, although logically it should have been proportioned out. Well, I got aggravated trying to argue with him, and I must have been feeling the game a bit and I said, screw it I'll take the whole two dimes.

    I tabbed that bet as my "suitcase bet," if it went down I was packing my suitcase. But, the suitcase stayed in the closet, as the Blazers took the lead in the third quarter, and never looked back. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 9, 2013 - 8:39 PM ET #102

    My advice save up more, plenty of cheap places close to strip at $500 a month, stack 3,000 more pay rent 6 months in advance so you have a safe roof over your head for 6 months than that bankroll is doable. If you go bust your worse case scenario you have a place to sleep and can look for some type of work to get back home. You dont want to worry about where your gonna sleep you want to spend all your time perfecting your system.



    Or if you really want to grind skip the rent buy a minivan & a 24/7 fitness membership sleep in the van shower at the fitness place and make your dreams come true.


    But I don't know too many people that turned 2,700 into anything meaningful its gonna end up being work regardless at 2,700 takes a while to flip

    If you cant get a vehicle 30 day bus passes are $65 and buses run 24/7 and will get you everywhere.

    $25 a week on food is borderline starvation



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    My advice save up more, plenty of cheap places close to strip at $500 a month, stack 3,000 more pay rent 6 months in advance so you have a safe roof over your head for 6 months than that bankroll is doable. If you go bust your worse case scenario you have a place to sleep and can look for some type of work to get back home. You dont want to worry about where your gonna sleep you want to spend all your time perfecting your system.



    Or if you really want to grind skip the rent buy a minivan & a 24/7 fitness membership sleep in the van shower at the fitness place and make your dreams come true.


    But I don't know too many people that turned 2,700 into anything meaningful its gonna end up being work regardless at 2,700 takes a while to flip

    If you cant get a vehicle 30 day bus passes are $65 and buses run 24/7 and will get you everywhere.

    $25 a week on food is borderline starvation



     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 1:08 PM ET #103

    Big players from Hawaii normally have their rooms and meals comped at say Orleans or other casinos owned by the Boyd group.  But they are probably gambling more than 2700.  Real big players are comped airfare and rooms and meals.   I know people with monthly pensions twice that amount and they would not be foolish enough to try.  It is gambling, just enjoy the rush.   Life is short, enjoy, gamblig is only one aspect.  Here I have my friends and family, church, surfing, karate, etc.  so much to occupy myself with, gambling is just one segment.  To be consumed by it is greed and you will eventually be destroyed.  IMO.
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    Big players from Hawaii normally have their rooms and meals comped at say Orleans or other casinos owned by the Boyd group.  But they are probably gambling more than 2700.  Real big players are comped airfare and rooms and meals.   I know people with monthly pensions twice that amount and they would not be foolish enough to try.  It is gambling, just enjoy the rush.   Life is short, enjoy, gamblig is only one aspect.  Here I have my friends and family, church, surfing, karate, etc.  so much to occupy myself with, gambling is just one segment.  To be consumed by it is greed and you will eventually be destroyed.  IMO.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 3:57 PM ET #104

    Was it new york slim who tried this or Twist?

    I can't find the thread but someone here already tried this.

    With a little larger BR, granted.  .

     

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    Was it new york slim who tried this or Twist?

    I can't find the thread but someone here already tried this.

    With a little larger BR, granted.  .

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 4:02 PM ET #105

    Here's that link.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=216&sub=101373943

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    Here's that link.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=216&sub=101373943

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2013 - 12:16 AM ET #106

    any mount of time is do-able. it all depend on how good you are at sports betting or poker
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    any mount of time is do-able. it all depend on how good you are at sports betting or poker
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2013 - 10:27 PM ET #107

    I'm not bad.
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2013 - 4:42 PM ET #108

    What part of Canada you from, and I know vegas is heaven, but why not just o this at home 
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    What part of Canada you from, and I know vegas is heaven, but why not just o this at home 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 27, 2013 - 2:44 PM ET #109

    Ontario.

    It's getting cold!

     

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    Ontario.

    It's getting cold!

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 12:47 PM ET #110

    And Ontario isn't the Mecca of poker in Canada.  Montreal,calgary,Vancouver maybe. But you must have a good game and alittle roll, then accommodation is probably much higher in those city'scity's
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    And Ontario isn't the Mecca of poker in Canada.  Montreal,calgary,Vancouver maybe. But you must have a good game and alittle roll, then accommodation is probably much higher in those city'scity's
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 12:47 PM ET #111

    Sooooo when you going 
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2013 - 9:19 PM ET #112

    When I can get my hands on $2,700.00.
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    When I can get my hands on $2,700.00.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2013 - 1:42 AM ET #113

    im going to try it w/ 1700 really  make it tuff
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    im going to try it w/ 1700 really  make it tuff
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2013 - 12:03 AM ET #114

    You could show up with $170 & anything can happen but, the amount isn't really the point here.

     

     

    I guess I wanted some input on how to minimize your expenses & & your losses & maximize your ROI each day.

     

    Poker Freerolls & soft lines at the books on the strip are some thoughts I had.  Stay away from parlays & table games & eat in more than you eat out. Don't buy liquor if they are giving it away for free. Same goes for food.

     

    I'm not advising that anyone head to Vegas with $170 but, at some point I imagine this might be my balance & when you have a small nut you might be able to hang around for a couple more days & give yourself a shot of doubling up or tripling up.  This might happen in the 1st couple days if you're not careful.

     

     

     

     

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    You could show up with $170 & anything can happen but, the amount isn't really the point here.

     

     

    I guess I wanted some input on how to minimize your expenses & & your losses & maximize your ROI each day.

     

    Poker Freerolls & soft lines at the books on the strip are some thoughts I had.  Stay away from parlays & table games & eat in more than you eat out. Don't buy liquor if they are giving it away for free. Same goes for food.

     

    I'm not advising that anyone head to Vegas with $170 but, at some point I imagine this might be my balance & when you have a small nut you might be able to hang around for a couple more days & give yourself a shot of doubling up or tripling up.  This might happen in the 1st couple days if you're not careful.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2014 - 6:22 PM ET #115

    OK...
    I've got $2,700.00.
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    OK...
    I've got $2,700.00.
     
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    Posted: May. 13, 2014 - 7:07 PM ET #116

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420:

    OK...
    I've got $2,700.00.
    Are you going to try it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420:

    OK...
    I've got $2,700.00.
    Are you going to try it?
     
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    Posted: May. 14, 2014 - 1:28 AM ET #117

    do it bro.
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    Posted: May. 19, 2014 - 5:28 AM ET #118

    Quote Originally Posted by marcbryanjacob:

    Jay you're severely under-capitalized right now, but that can change.

    You've got your weekly nut down to bare bones and that is well done on your part. But you can't play with such a short stack in either sports or poker, the 2 best ways to make quick profits in gambling. $60 bets are not gonna cut it with a $700/month nut.

    You'll have to consider your $2700 as your gambling bankroll, and I don't even think you can consider dividing it into separate BR's for sports and poker. If you can start off in sports by being very selective, your Kelly BR% could start off at 20%. This is the absolute max any superb sports bettor should ever risk on 1 straight bet. If you can hit right off the bat at 7-3 or 8-2, you could stay at the 20% level (about $550) for another few plays. The 1st time you lose 2 back-to-back you should immediately revert from this $550 flat bet to 15% BR regular Kelly wagering (resize to 15% BR after every bet). The 1st week I would try $150 short poker sessions only after a winning sports day. Remember every week you will have another losing session called rent-and-food.

    The idea is to jack your BR up quickly in the 1st 2 or 3 weeks to a more realistic level. Then you can bring the Kelly % down gradually to a more realistic % when you start getting hit with more losses. With your small BR you should prolly try to keep betting at least 7% BR in the next few months. You may reach points where you will have to establish a minimum flat bet of say $300 to stay solvent.

    If you lose your 1st 3 or 4 wagers you prolly lookin for a job anyway, so don't back off your Kelly. Good luck and let us know if you need more ideas. 

    I keep forgetting how god damned sharp this post was.
    This guy still here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcbryanjacob:

    Jay you're severely under-capitalized right now, but that can change.

    You've got your weekly nut down to bare bones and that is well done on your part. But you can't play with such a short stack in either sports or poker, the 2 best ways to make quick profits in gambling. $60 bets are not gonna cut it with a $700/month nut.

    You'll have to consider your $2700 as your gambling bankroll, and I don't even think you can consider dividing it into separate BR's for sports and poker. If you can start off in sports by being very selective, your Kelly BR% could start off at 20%. This is the absolute max any superb sports bettor should ever risk on 1 straight bet. If you can hit right off the bat at 7-3 or 8-2, you could stay at the 20% level (about $550) for another few plays. The 1st time you lose 2 back-to-back you should immediately revert from this $550 flat bet to 15% BR regular Kelly wagering (resize to 15% BR after every bet). The 1st week I would try $150 short poker sessions only after a winning sports day. Remember every week you will have another losing session called rent-and-food.

    The idea is to jack your BR up quickly in the 1st 2 or 3 weeks to a more realistic level. Then you can bring the Kelly % down gradually to a more realistic % when you start getting hit with more losses. With your small BR you should prolly try to keep betting at least 7% BR in the next few months. You may reach points where you will have to establish a minimum flat bet of say $300 to stay solvent.

    If you lose your 1st 3 or 4 wagers you prolly lookin for a job anyway, so don't back off your Kelly. Good luck and let us know if you need more ideas. 

    I keep forgetting how god damned sharp this post was.
    This guy still here?
     
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    When I mentioned that I posted this question across the other forms,I did not mention that I had tried this before and posted the results in a different form. I suspect that members from all four forums have found this thread.
    Some, perhaps have already posted in it.
    I also didn't mention that I have a little more than $2,700.00 & would like to play in some events like the Planet Hollywood Phamous Poker Series & The Aria Classic & The Bellagio Cup. Maybe a WSOP preliminary event at The Rio.
    There was a lot of good advice in this thread.  I tried to play devils advocate & find out what people really think.
    But the reality is, if you need to big and you need to hit quick, there's nothing better than a big money poker tournament.  
    Or 3 or 4.
    Use the $2,700.00 to gamble %20 on big sports bets & pay my nut for a few weeks while I play the tournaments.





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    When I mentioned that I posted this question across the other forms,I did not mention that I had tried this before and posted the results in a different form. I suspect that members from all four forums have found this thread.
    Some, perhaps have already posted in it.
    I also didn't mention that I have a little more than $2,700.00 & would like to play in some events like the Planet Hollywood Phamous Poker Series & The Aria Classic & The Bellagio Cup. Maybe a WSOP preliminary event at The Rio.
    There was a lot of good advice in this thread.  I tried to play devils advocate & find out what people really think.
    But the reality is, if you need to big and you need to hit quick, there's nothing better than a big money poker tournament.  
    Or 3 or 4.
    Use the $2,700.00 to gamble %20 on big sports bets & pay my nut for a few weeks while I play the tournaments.





     
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     Jay. let us know how the job search turns out, once your dream becomes a nightmare, and you are tapped out.  
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    Thats the whole point of posting this here, so that saddists like you can take pleasure in my failure. Good luck Wi Z z Y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420:

    Thats the whole point of posting this here, so that saddists like you can take pleasure in my failure. Good luck Wi Z z Y.

    You have already failed, because you are too afraid to give it a shot.  I chased my poker and sports betting dream about 10-15 years ago, and realized it was not for me.  So quit talking about it, and see if your dreams can become a reality.

    Then keep us updated on your overall gambling progress. as I would be interested in hearing some of your stories and experiences.  But, once again, if you just keep talking about it, and never even start, you have already failed 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420:

    Thats the whole point of posting this here, so that saddists like you can take pleasure in my failure. Good luck Wi Z z Y.

    You have already failed, because you are too afraid to give it a shot.  I chased my poker and sports betting dream about 10-15 years ago, and realized it was not for me.  So quit talking about it, and see if your dreams can become a reality.

    Then keep us updated on your overall gambling progress. as I would be interested in hearing some of your stories and experiences.  But, once again, if you just keep talking about it, and never even start, you have already failed 

     
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    Ill be there in 9 days , 
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    You still there guy?
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    im still doing it bro!
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