Ben Simmons Hype or Reality?

Ben is just a kid. He didn’t win a nba Champs. Why care about him?

Again, you act like you're the only one who has taken notice of Donovan Mitchell. Like you're making a case for some outlier. He's the darling of the NBA right now and I can't remember one thread denigrating Mitchell or, for that matter, one thread saying Simmons is better. If you would've made a thread after the draft saying, "Yo, Mitchell was the steal of the draft. He'll probably be ROY." then you'd deserve credit but you come in here after Mitchell has been lighting it up, and everybody has fallen in love with him, you come in here writing 1000 word essays like your campaigning for a JUCO kid to win the Heisman. You're preaching to the choir bruh. Who doen't like Donovan Mitchell? I love the kid and i've hated the Jazz my entire life. I'm rooting for them even though the Rockets would be a better match-up for my Warriors. Again, where was this thread 4 months ago? Who are you trying to debate? The Donovan Mitchell haters? Where are they?

simmons is 6-10 with great vision. his potential dwarfs mitchell.

If both were re-drafted again in the same draft class...I would hands down take Ben Simmons over Donavan Mitchell as would most NBA GM's...Who means more to their team right now and is playing better is clearly Mitchell....

Exactly. Mitchell is D.Wade. Simmons is potentially Magic Johnson. Mitchell is good enough to lead a team to a championship right now a la D.Wade. Simmons could potentially be, Kareem is injured, "Start me at center, coach!" I like Mitchell more. His game is NBA ready right now. And he's a good kid. He's got a perfect mix of confidence and humility but if i'm a GM, I probably still draft Simmons first. 6'10 points don't coke around every day. Mitchell's ceiling is is D.Wade. Simmons' ceiling is Lebron. I guy who can do it all, facilitate, and guard 1-5. You can teach a jumpshot but you can't seem to teach the vision/awareness that great point guards have. And you certainly can't teach height. And look where the game is going. Positionless basketball where everyone is 6'6" or taller.

I disagree you don't need to be able to shoot to be a great NBA player.  Rodman and Rudy Gobbert can't shoot but they can change a game with their rebounding and defense.  I use to play basketball you don't have to be Steph Curry to make a big impact in a game.

PLAYER EFFICIENCY RATINGS..............................

As I wrote this thread yesterday, last nite DM sh@ts the bed. Oh well. He was awful like Simmons was in game 1 and 2. Somebody said earlier in this thread that the rockets don’t play defense though which.....last nite, they looked pretty good. With Mitchell being Utah’s everything on offense I wasn’t surprised to see the Rockets really key on him. I still like DM over Mitchell though. No excuses here though. DM stunk as did Simmons so let’s see how these two respond. My guess is if this Simmons kid as as good as everybody says he is, he’ll respond big at home tonite. They are 9 point faves. As for DM, he isn’t getting Rubio back so he’ll have to take it on himself again. Again, still taking Mitchell all day, every day. 

Claw: you say “DM FINALLY had some pressure”? Tell he, how did DM do in that first round? How did he do in game 5 and 6 of the opening round in the second half? That isn’t pressure? You love to skew the argument your way bud. The dude went toe to toe with the MVP on the road and showed him up.....I guess like lebron late in the season and in the playoffs, not good enough, huh? Too funny. Have a good weekend bud

I’m gonna let the last few minutes speak for themselves. Well....not really. I will just continue to say I told ya so. The point of this thread was to point out his inability to shoot and state he’s highly overrated yet I got excuse after excuse. Coach Brown this, Boston defense that....ok.....Please explain the offensive rebound put back up 1 with the shot clock turned off, explain the missed layup with about 2 minutes to go and how about the missed dunk late and yes, the awful inbounds. Simmons is to blame for all of these and as I had stated in this thread, you can see the lack of confidence growing. Why? He’s simply handcuffed in that he can’t shoot so he pushes other situations to remedy that inability. Basketball people who know the game see what I see; the ones who are opposed to it are either homers of Philly or ones who put money on that team. I’m not here to argue, I’m simply here to point out the obvious that so many still can’t see. I think people need to pump the brakes on Ben being this next coming dominant athlete. Is he a rookie? Yep. But we watched a rookie opposite of Ben....Mr. Tatum WANT the ball and make big shots AGAIN IN THIS SERIES. The dude couldn’t hit some big free throws in the end but he hit back to back buckets late to will his team. To me, I’ve never bought into the hype of Simmons and won’t until he achieves something and wills his team to a win in a big game. I’ve seen Mitchell do this and Ive seem Tatum do it as well. Ben? He lives off the hype, his entitlement is overflowing and still to this day, I don’t look at him as a rookie. He had a year and two summers to get ready...to work on that jumper he doesn’t have, to observe veterans on his team and to fine tune his brain so that in situations like these today, he doesn’t have brain fart after brain fart. If so many are gonna crown this kid, stop making excuses for him. Even Steve A. that pud did after the game blaming Brown for outing Ben on the inbounds rather than blaming Ben for the crap pass. Again, I hope Ben gets better but I ain’t ready to call him the next coming. He’s far from that not because of his jumper solely but because of the poor decision after poor decision we saw tonite. It cost them the game last game and it cost them tonite big time. 

hype in my view. 

he can't make jumps. he can't make free throws. he can't guard. he can't clutch.

lol

but seriously. everything I said is really true. I can't stand this guy. he can't even make shots from mid-range or 3. his game is based on drives for layups. ONLY that. he even hides behind other players when game is close. fultz seems to be a poor version of him what I could see in some games.