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    CAVALIERS @ WARRIORS: GAME 1!!! I christen thee write-up my LARGEST EVER. I call thee GODZILLA!!!!

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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:02 AM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by Bcboyz:

    Warriors come out to plaaayyyy 

    It would be nice if they played that with clips of that movie over their sound system.

    Although it was a call for gang violence and it would only take ONE reporter would blow the entire thing up and ruin the fun.

    It's like the Sixers: Why the hell isn't "Philadelphia Freedom" by Elton John playing during time-outs ALL the time. That is one of the best songs about a city every made. Play it for god's sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bcboyz:

    Warriors come out to plaaayyyy 

    It would be nice if they played that with clips of that movie over their sound system.

    Although it was a call for gang violence and it would only take ONE reporter would blow the entire thing up and ruin the fun.

    It's like the Sixers: Why the hell isn't "Philadelphia Freedom" by Elton John playing during time-outs ALL the time. That is one of the best songs about a city every made. Play it for god's sake.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:09 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian7479:

    Scal I'm not debating you at all. I myself haven't even made up my mind on this game. But would like your thoughts on something. You mentioned that Cleveland has given up a lot of open shots. I don't know what the exact numbers are but I did see a Warriors twitter guy mention that the Warriors have given up an insane percentage of uncontested shots in the post season this far. What's your thoughts on that and doesn't that concern you with an offensive team with shooters such as JR Smith, Kyrie, Kevin Love, LeBron, Korver, and Shumpert shooting 49% and Williams shooting 54% to this point in the playoffs? I know some of those guys aren't consistent but still a very good shooting team. Everything you mentioned was factual and I agree with everything you mentioned and GS can indeed blow cleveland out in games but there's also 2 teams playing in this game not just 1. Again I'm not debating you as my initial thought was GS -7 but just wanted your input on the thought of GS giving up such a high percentage of uncontested shots to this point in the playoffs. Also you mentioned Cleveland being 12-1 in the playoffs and that not carrying any weight but as a Spurs fan I can't help but mention that the Warriors would not be 12-0 right now if it wasn't for injuries. Also what is your reasoning for GS not having another bad start in game 1 like they did against the Spurs in game 1? Forget the fact that the Spurs held them to 42 points in the first half but the fact that before Kawhi got hurt the not so offensively minded Spurs were on track to score 130+ in that game without Parker as well. Also does it not worry you how easily they were outdone on offensive rebounds with a team that has good rebounders in Love and Thompson and even LeBron? And I know Cleveland hasn't been much better but GS also turned the ball over a ton in the conference finals. Again all this with no Kawhi and parker and Lee for half series. Even without those 3 guys SA won a lot of areas of the game and although injury riddled averaged almost 110 points a game and SA not a very offensive minded team like Cleveland. Again not debating your pick just would like your thoughts on a few things as I clearly see a lot of things cleveland can exploit but also know that there's a ton of things that GS can exploit. The other thing that I notice in your write up is that the majority of your thoughts point to how GS can exploit the Cavs defense but only a few thoughts on how GS can defend Cleveland which leads me to think the over should be the play. Only thing that worries me with that is the fact that it's game 1 but again the fact that SA was on track to score 130+ in game 1 makes me wonder how GS will come out in game 1. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    What's your thoughts on that and doesn't that concern you with an offensive team with shooters such as JR Smith, Kyrie, Kevin Love, LeBron, Korver, and Shumpert shooting 49% and Williams shooting 54% to this point in the playoffs?

    That will change. Warriors are the best defense of any team the Cavs have played.

    Also what is your reasoning for GS not having another bad start in game 1 like they did against the Spurs in game 1?

    Because good teams with top of the line coaches are sure to adjust having already committed some flaw. 

    It is a GOOD thing the Warriors got bombed to start Game 1 last series. I can assure you Kerr and Brown and all the assistants are providing the players continual reminders to disallow that this time out. And at this level, with a team as elite as Golden State, it is about focus more than talent. And I trust they will be focused not to let that happen again.

    Also does it not worry you how easily they were outdone on offensive rebounds with a team that has good rebounders in Love and Thompson and even LeBron?

    Golden State will always have poor stats in the offensive rebounding category. They don't have the height to crash the boards like other teams and to make matters worse Bogut is gone. But they are so much better in other areas it more than makes up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian7479:

    Scal I'm not debating you at all. I myself haven't even made up my mind on this game. But would like your thoughts on something. You mentioned that Cleveland has given up a lot of open shots. I don't know what the exact numbers are but I did see a Warriors twitter guy mention that the Warriors have given up an insane percentage of uncontested shots in the post season this far. What's your thoughts on that and doesn't that concern you with an offensive team with shooters such as JR Smith, Kyrie, Kevin Love, LeBron, Korver, and Shumpert shooting 49% and Williams shooting 54% to this point in the playoffs? I know some of those guys aren't consistent but still a very good shooting team. Everything you mentioned was factual and I agree with everything you mentioned and GS can indeed blow cleveland out in games but there's also 2 teams playing in this game not just 1. Again I'm not debating you as my initial thought was GS -7 but just wanted your input on the thought of GS giving up such a high percentage of uncontested shots to this point in the playoffs. Also you mentioned Cleveland being 12-1 in the playoffs and that not carrying any weight but as a Spurs fan I can't help but mention that the Warriors would not be 12-0 right now if it wasn't for injuries. Also what is your reasoning for GS not having another bad start in game 1 like they did against the Spurs in game 1? Forget the fact that the Spurs held them to 42 points in the first half but the fact that before Kawhi got hurt the not so offensively minded Spurs were on track to score 130+ in that game without Parker as well. Also does it not worry you how easily they were outdone on offensive rebounds with a team that has good rebounders in Love and Thompson and even LeBron? And I know Cleveland hasn't been much better but GS also turned the ball over a ton in the conference finals. Again all this with no Kawhi and parker and Lee for half series. Even without those 3 guys SA won a lot of areas of the game and although injury riddled averaged almost 110 points a game and SA not a very offensive minded team like Cleveland. Again not debating your pick just would like your thoughts on a few things as I clearly see a lot of things cleveland can exploit but also know that there's a ton of things that GS can exploit. The other thing that I notice in your write up is that the majority of your thoughts point to how GS can exploit the Cavs defense but only a few thoughts on how GS can defend Cleveland which leads me to think the over should be the play. Only thing that worries me with that is the fact that it's game 1 but again the fact that SA was on track to score 130+ in game 1 makes me wonder how GS will come out in game 1. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

    What's your thoughts on that and doesn't that concern you with an offensive team with shooters such as JR Smith, Kyrie, Kevin Love, LeBron, Korver, and Shumpert shooting 49% and Williams shooting 54% to this point in the playoffs?

    That will change. Warriors are the best defense of any team the Cavs have played.

    Also what is your reasoning for GS not having another bad start in game 1 like they did against the Spurs in game 1?

    Because good teams with top of the line coaches are sure to adjust having already committed some flaw. 

    It is a GOOD thing the Warriors got bombed to start Game 1 last series. I can assure you Kerr and Brown and all the assistants are providing the players continual reminders to disallow that this time out. And at this level, with a team as elite as Golden State, it is about focus more than talent. And I trust they will be focused not to let that happen again.

    Also does it not worry you how easily they were outdone on offensive rebounds with a team that has good rebounders in Love and Thompson and even LeBron?

    Golden State will always have poor stats in the offensive rebounding category. They don't have the height to crash the boards like other teams and to make matters worse Bogut is gone. But they are so much better in other areas it more than makes up for it.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:19 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by GTD:

    Don't act like its not possible that they win by 1-7 points or even lose game 1 and still win the series they add the handicap to make it fair it's called a crap shoot sharp money is on the ml or Warriors for the series if you like them

    Who said it's not possible? I wrote up nearly a full PAGE of thread to justify laying the points and WHY.

    "Sharp Money" cannot be associated with a -320 ML for the game or -275 line for the series. There is nothing 'sharp' about betting such chalk. In fact, win or lose, it's the antithesis of the definition of sharp. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTD:

    Don't act like its not possible that they win by 1-7 points or even lose game 1 and still win the series they add the handicap to make it fair it's called a crap shoot sharp money is on the ml or Warriors for the series if you like them

    Who said it's not possible? I wrote up nearly a full PAGE of thread to justify laying the points and WHY.

    "Sharp Money" cannot be associated with a -320 ML for the game or -275 line for the series. There is nothing 'sharp' about betting such chalk. In fact, win or lose, it's the antithesis of the definition of sharp. 
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:22 AM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by FunKyRufus:

    Holy Cow Scal! What a write up. It was monumental for sure, but it was most impressive for your explanations of the simplicity of it all in Game 1.

    All your motivational points were spot on but your most succinct point was #11. The eye test. The Cavs still give up lots of open 3 point attempts. This is what will decide the series and Game 1. The Warriors will make the most from behind the arc, and likely to defend the best from behind that line, and then rebound. The New Game. 





    I'm glad you like the eye test angle. Just watching the game and seeing how teams react and flow is invaluable. You don't have to know how to type a single OP and if you just watch the games and make a pick, you can be successful if you understand the intricacies of what you are watching and have the foresight to apply that to future a game/series.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by FunKyRufus:

    Holy Cow Scal! What a write up. It was monumental for sure, but it was most impressive for your explanations of the simplicity of it all in Game 1.

    All your motivational points were spot on but your most succinct point was #11. The eye test. The Cavs still give up lots of open 3 point attempts. This is what will decide the series and Game 1. The Warriors will make the most from behind the arc, and likely to defend the best from behind that line, and then rebound. The New Game. 





    I'm glad you like the eye test angle. Just watching the game and seeing how teams react and flow is invaluable. You don't have to know how to type a single OP and if you just watch the games and make a pick, you can be successful if you understand the intricacies of what you are watching and have the foresight to apply that to future a game/series.  
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:24 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by masterkush:

    Scal do regular season games come into account?   After Cleveland got the socks knocked off them from GS in the last game they played ( regular season)  one would think Cleveland has revenge on their minds.


    Great write up 


    Thanks 

    GLMK 

    Thanks. In this instance, since these teams met three times in the FINALS, the regular season is irrelevant to me in terms of this cap. Cleveland has zero revenge here for losing a regular season game compared to Golden State who overhauled their roster just to get tot this point and win this series agains the same team. I can assure you, those regular season games are meaningless to Cleveland (and they only played twice and Golden State was not at full strength anyway for both).
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterkush:

    Scal do regular season games come into account?   After Cleveland got the socks knocked off them from GS in the last game they played ( regular season)  one would think Cleveland has revenge on their minds.


    Great write up 


    Thanks 

    GLMK 

    Thanks. In this instance, since these teams met three times in the FINALS, the regular season is irrelevant to me in terms of this cap. Cleveland has zero revenge here for losing a regular season game compared to Golden State who overhauled their roster just to get tot this point and win this series agains the same team. I can assure you, those regular season games are meaningless to Cleveland (and they only played twice and Golden State was not at full strength anyway for both).
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:27 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Play4daBucks:

    What an incredible write-up, I am piling GSW -7!

    Nice of you to join me. We will saunter to the window together and loiter there, letting all the depressed Cavs backers watch us gesticulate with a handful of 100's about how the Warriors covered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Play4daBucks:

    What an incredible write-up, I am piling GSW -7!

    Nice of you to join me. We will saunter to the window together and loiter there, letting all the depressed Cavs backers watch us gesticulate with a handful of 100's about how the Warriors covered.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:28 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese_Capper:

    SCAL....

    Do you also suggest play GSW -300 for the series?  Seems this is a safer play.

    It's safer alright, and you have to pay $190 more over $110 for the same money I'm trying to make you here!

    I'm not interested in the series line. I'll make my money game by game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chinese_Capper:

    SCAL....

    Do you also suggest play GSW -300 for the series?  Seems this is a safer play.

    It's safer alright, and you have to pay $190 more over $110 for the same money I'm trying to make you here!

    I'm not interested in the series line. I'll make my money game by game.
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:29 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by PDiddyDD:

    Excellent write up, but give me Cleveland +7.5 please which I took already!  Remember, I am the buy who said take Celtics ML in game 3 in your thread as well and won a ton on that call!

     I think the books are sick of dogs covering and Warriors win,  but don't cover as the casinos weren't built on chalk covering every game.  Do like your analysis Scalabrine, but Cavs are going to be ready to play and Lebron is still the best player on the court IMHO, this counts a lot catching 7.5 points! Warriors are better and could roll, but think it's within a TD game 1! 

    That's good Diddy. 

    Nice ML hit with the Celtics. Now you are throwing some of that away....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PDiddyDD:

    Excellent write up, but give me Cleveland +7.5 please which I took already!  Remember, I am the buy who said take Celtics ML in game 3 in your thread as well and won a ton on that call!

     I think the books are sick of dogs covering and Warriors win,  but don't cover as the casinos weren't built on chalk covering every game.  Do like your analysis Scalabrine, but Cavs are going to be ready to play and Lebron is still the best player on the court IMHO, this counts a lot catching 7.5 points! Warriors are better and could roll, but think it's within a TD game 1! 

    That's good Diddy. 

    Nice ML hit with the Celtics. Now you are throwing some of that away....
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2017 - 9:34 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by guyhopestowin:

    the play here should be golden state - spread or nothing

    my point is should I bet for live in game opportunity to get a spread up to -5 (I hope I can get up to -3, one possession but dont think so)

    what I mean is can golden state dominate all 48 mins? or can cleveland make a good run for 4 5 mins and give bettors chance to take less spread with golden state

    I think I will divide my regular unit play to half. one before game time, and one to live opportunity

    Live betting....

    All you guys who wanted to take the Celtics in Game 4 +16. How did that work out given the Celtics lead the entire way through almost 3 quarters. You never sniffed that line. OF COURSE everyone perceives that they will get a better line in-game. 

    But you have to sit there, at opening tip, refreshing your phone a thousand times, shutting out the world, JUST to get a line that very well may never exist.

    Live betting exists for a reason: It makes the books money. Remember that. 

    They DO NOT want the traditional reasoned pre-game approach with debate and discussion as you see here.

    They want panicked Live Betting where you are betting in and out, hedging in and out and by the time the buzzer sounds you'll have so many bets on both sides you'll just hope to lose the juice.

    Consistent live betting is a no-no. It's like a day trader. Where are they? Who do you come across or see in the news with wealth that says they are a day trader? 


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    Quote Originally Posted by guyhopestowin:

    the play here should be golden state - spread or nothing

    my point is should I bet for live in game opportunity to get a spread up to -5 (I hope I can get up to -3, one possession but dont think so)

    what I mean is can golden state dominate all 48 mins? or can cleveland make a good run for 4 5 mins and give bettors chance to take less spread with golden state

    I think I will divide my regular unit play to half. one before game time, and one to live opportunity

    Live betting....

    All you guys who wanted to take the Celtics in Game 4 +16. How did that work out given the Celtics lead the entire way through almost 3 quarters. You never sniffed that line. OF COURSE everyone perceives that they will get a better line in-game. 

    But you have to sit there, at opening tip, refreshing your phone a thousand times, shutting out the world, JUST to get a line that very well may never exist.

    Live betting exists for a reason: It makes the books money. Remember that. 

    They DO NOT want the traditional reasoned pre-game approach with debate and discussion as you see here.

    They want panicked Live Betting where you are betting in and out, hedging in and out and by the time the buzzer sounds you'll have so many bets on both sides you'll just hope to lose the juice.

    Consistent live betting is a no-no. It's like a day trader. Where are they? Who do you come across or see in the news with wealth that says they are a day trader? 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by risktaker:

    you outdone your self scal this time they gonna be writing books about you one day thanks for the insight and pick you know im with u win or lose GL go warriors

    Risk I'm gonna bring this one home for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by risktaker:

    you outdone your self scal this time they gonna be writing books about you one day thanks for the insight and pick you know im with u win or lose GL go warriors

    Risk I'm gonna bring this one home for ya.

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    I want to accentuate this if you are reading this and are skeptical.

    All that matters here is one thing: Win the game.

    That justifies everything.

    It justifies the size of this thread that I touted; it justifies the conversation and debate within; it justifies the pursuit of the cap itself.

    Win the game. That's it. 

    It's much like Lebron's career. Until he won, he was not even be mentioned in the conversation with the NBA greats. Lose and you are a footnote. Win? You mean something. W

    Lose the game and this thread is tossed on the scrap heap of losers that lines the miasma of blown up bankrolls, that burning cash smells wafting into your nostrils.

    But if you win the game, the pursuit, the research, the discussion...All of it is justified.

    This is a very important game. I am here to win this game. 

    I am here to have you join me. That is why I posted it.

    For no other reason actually. 

    This thread is a tree falling in the forest but you were there to hear it.

    This is Adrian from her hospital bed in Rocky 2 after giving birth....

    "Win" 
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    I want to accentuate this if you are reading this and are skeptical.

    All that matters here is one thing: Win the game.

    That justifies everything.

    It justifies the size of this thread that I touted; it justifies the conversation and debate within; it justifies the pursuit of the cap itself.

    Win the game. That's it. 

    It's much like Lebron's career. Until he won, he was not even be mentioned in the conversation with the NBA greats. Lose and you are a footnote. Win? You mean something. W

    Lose the game and this thread is tossed on the scrap heap of losers that lines the miasma of blown up bankrolls, that burning cash smells wafting into your nostrils.

    But if you win the game, the pursuit, the research, the discussion...All of it is justified.

    This is a very important game. I am here to win this game. 

    I am here to have you join me. That is why I posted it.

    For no other reason actually. 

    This thread is a tree falling in the forest but you were there to hear it.

    This is Adrian from her hospital bed in Rocky 2 after giving birth....

    "Win" 
     
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    Scal what are your thoughts on the series? do you think Cleveland has a shot... or is this going 5 games?
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    Scal what are your thoughts on the series? do you think Cleveland has a shot... or is this going 5 games?
     
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    Be careful with the axe Eugene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jriv189:

    Scal what are your thoughts on the series? do you think Cleveland has a shot... or is this going 5 games?

    I'm not really concerned. The series line for the Warriors is of no interest. I have no interest in laying -275 to Lebron even though I think the Warriors will win the series (which again, doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine).

    We saw this before with the Spurs revenge Finals victory against the Heat if just purely taking revenge into the equation (which is powerful).

    How much better is this Cavs team than that Heat team? Ok you answer they are better and Lebron is better. Agreed.

    Now think of, with all the aged stars the Spurs had on that team, how much better this Warriors team is than that Spurs team was. And how many more options they have compared to last year with Durant. You think they would have went scoreless in the last 4.5 minutes last year with Curry Klay AND Durant on the floor. Klay was -45 for the series and it basically came down to the last shot for it all. He played as bad as you could play and they lost Bogut and Iggy was hampered and Green was suspended. All of that....a thing of the past right now.

    This Warriors team is one of the greatest ever in terms of pure talent and options on the floor. 

    They could have won 73, but why? Why kill yourself? They learned their lesson not to chase that record and even at that, they won 67 and 15 of 16 to end the year. And that was WITH Durant missing TWENTY games. 

    This team is better than last year's and healthier. In that light, you have to take the Warriors every time (at a price that doesn't attract me as series can have injuries and take the entire thing down so I'll go game by game).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jriv189:

    Scal what are your thoughts on the series? do you think Cleveland has a shot... or is this going 5 games?

    I'm not really concerned. The series line for the Warriors is of no interest. I have no interest in laying -275 to Lebron even though I think the Warriors will win the series (which again, doesn't take a rocket scientist to determine).

    We saw this before with the Spurs revenge Finals victory against the Heat if just purely taking revenge into the equation (which is powerful).

    How much better is this Cavs team than that Heat team? Ok you answer they are better and Lebron is better. Agreed.

    Now think of, with all the aged stars the Spurs had on that team, how much better this Warriors team is than that Spurs team was. And how many more options they have compared to last year with Durant. You think they would have went scoreless in the last 4.5 minutes last year with Curry Klay AND Durant on the floor. Klay was -45 for the series and it basically came down to the last shot for it all. He played as bad as you could play and they lost Bogut and Iggy was hampered and Green was suspended. All of that....a thing of the past right now.

    This Warriors team is one of the greatest ever in terms of pure talent and options on the floor. 

    They could have won 73, but why? Why kill yourself? They learned their lesson not to chase that record and even at that, they won 67 and 15 of 16 to end the year. And that was WITH Durant missing TWENTY games. 

    This team is better than last year's and healthier. In that light, you have to take the Warriors every time (at a price that doesn't attract me as series can have injuries and take the entire thing down so I'll go game by game).
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Well at this point, and I can't believe I'm saying this, if I needed ONE guy on my team from the modern era to win a championship, to build around, and again, this is watershed moment for me because I've never come to terms with this, and it came down to Lebron and MJ, I'd take Lebron, the #1 reason is that he WANTS to make his team better, and does. MJ was notorious for being selfish and confrontational. 

    Can't believe I'm saying that. Colin Cowherd said it the other day. Put Lebron on the Bucks and take him off the Cavs and they go right to the Finals. And they might even win it.

    Think about that. If the Bucks had Lebron, they win the East and possibly it all. Jason Kidd and the Bucks. No on here would deny this. 

    Jordan, in his prime, could not do that for the Bucks. And the list of teams he could do this for keeps going. Put him on the Knicks and they instantly become a playoff team. Instantly. And if Carmelo buys into playing second fiddle and Rose and Noah regain some health, with KP there already, you might, win the East. Right now. That's mind-boggling.


    He is the most underrated player in the league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Well at this point, and I can't believe I'm saying this, if I needed ONE guy on my team from the modern era to win a championship, to build around, and again, this is watershed moment for me because I've never come to terms with this, and it came down to Lebron and MJ, I'd take Lebron, the #1 reason is that he WANTS to make his team better, and does. MJ was notorious for being selfish and confrontational. 

    Can't believe I'm saying that. Colin Cowherd said it the other day. Put Lebron on the Bucks and take him off the Cavs and they go right to the Finals. And they might even win it.

    Think about that. If the Bucks had Lebron, they win the East and possibly it all. Jason Kidd and the Bucks. No on here would deny this. 

    Jordan, in his prime, could not do that for the Bucks. And the list of teams he could do this for keeps going. Put him on the Knicks and they instantly become a playoff team. Instantly. And if Carmelo buys into playing second fiddle and Rose and Noah regain some health, with KP there already, you might, win the East. Right now. That's mind-boggling.


    He is the most underrated player in the league.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    He is the most underrated player in the league.

    Which is why the MVP voting is pointless. You'd have to give him 7 straight MVP's and they don't want to do that.

    Just give out the award, and we'll say "yeah yeah, ok" and continue to bet the games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    He is the most underrated player in the league.

    Which is why the MVP voting is pointless. You'd have to give him 7 straight MVP's and they don't want to do that.

    Just give out the award, and we'll say "yeah yeah, ok" and continue to bet the games.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Which is why the MVP voting is pointless. You'd have to give him 7 straight MVP's and they don't want to do that.

    Just give out the award, and we'll say "yeah yeah, ok" and continue to bet the games.

    It happened to MJ also, writers get sick of the same story over and over.  I really don't even think it is close who "The Most Valuable" player is but they are sick of him. 

     If most of the LeBum retards would stop for a second and consider his numbers this year, it is considered a down year.

    I will be surprised if Cavs win more then one game but the hate he gets is very hard to understand.  Guess it is what comes with being the first real superstar in social media generation.  Even though he has done a great job keeping nose clean.  Can you imagine if MJ played in this generation?  The 24 hour round clock coverage?

    We should stop eating bananas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Which is why the MVP voting is pointless. You'd have to give him 7 straight MVP's and they don't want to do that.

    Just give out the award, and we'll say "yeah yeah, ok" and continue to bet the games.

    It happened to MJ also, writers get sick of the same story over and over.  I really don't even think it is close who "The Most Valuable" player is but they are sick of him. 

     If most of the LeBum retards would stop for a second and consider his numbers this year, it is considered a down year.

    I will be surprised if Cavs win more then one game but the hate he gets is very hard to understand.  Guess it is what comes with being the first real superstar in social media generation.  Even though he has done a great job keeping nose clean.  Can you imagine if MJ played in this generation?  The 24 hour round clock coverage?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    It happened to MJ also, writers get sick of the same story over and over.  I really don't even think it is close who "The Most Valuable" player is but they are sick of him. 

     If most of the LeBum retards would stop for a second and consider his numbers this year, it is considered a down year.

    I will be surprised if Cavs win more then one game but the hate he gets is very hard to understand.  Guess it is what comes with being the first real superstar in social media generation.  Even though he has done a great job keeping nose clean.  Can you imagine if MJ played in this generation?  The 24 hour round clock coverage?



    Agreed...

    The golf gambling losses...

    The passing of his father...

    His pursuit of baseball...

    He couldn't have left. It would be too much. I mean, even TMZ would treat him like a Kardashian 

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    Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76:

    It happened to MJ also, writers get sick of the same story over and over.  I really don't even think it is close who "The Most Valuable" player is but they are sick of him. 

     If most of the LeBum retards would stop for a second and consider his numbers this year, it is considered a down year.

    I will be surprised if Cavs win more then one game but the hate he gets is very hard to understand.  Guess it is what comes with being the first real superstar in social media generation.  Even though he has done a great job keeping nose clean.  Can you imagine if MJ played in this generation?  The 24 hour round clock coverage?



    Agreed...

    The golf gambling losses...

    The passing of his father...

    His pursuit of baseball...

    He couldn't have left. It would be too much. I mean, even TMZ would treat him like a Kardashian 

     
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    hey scal    nice write up       to say LeBron not selfish and to say he makes his team better than MJ is way off      for starters MJ never quit on his team    always gave maximum effort even though the stat sheet might not show it     always made his free throws when it counted most   HE got his coach FIRED    he told team to fold  thats not selfish?  he left his team to form a mini super team  to win   not  selfish?   putting your personal needs in front of everything is selfish     he holds a show to let people know where his "talents" will play      your smarter than this      LeBron  is a solid player  I never said he wasn't     mj never picked and choose his players like James  if he did he would have 10 rings 0 loses 10 finals mvp   pippin is overrated   irving way better   and if the bucks made their free throws and played smarter they would be here   would rather have mj instead of houdini to start a team any day     again   great write up  beast            good luck  
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    hey scal    nice write up       to say LeBron not selfish and to say he makes his team better than MJ is way off      for starters MJ never quit on his team    always gave maximum effort even though the stat sheet might not show it     always made his free throws when it counted most   HE got his coach FIRED    he told team to fold  thats not selfish?  he left his team to form a mini super team  to win   not  selfish?   putting your personal needs in front of everything is selfish     he holds a show to let people know where his "talents" will play      your smarter than this      LeBron  is a solid player  I never said he wasn't     mj never picked and choose his players like James  if he did he would have 10 rings 0 loses 10 finals mvp   pippin is overrated   irving way better   and if the bucks made their free throws and played smarter they would be here   would rather have mj instead of houdini to start a team any day     again   great write up  beast            good luck  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    hey scal    nice write up       to say LeBron not selfish and to say he makes his team better than MJ is way off      for starters MJ never quit on his team    always gave maximum effort even though the stat sheet might not show it     always made his free throws when it counted most   HE got his coach FIRED    he told team to fold  thats not selfish?  he left his team to form a mini super team  to win   not  selfish?   putting your personal needs in front of everything is selfish     he holds a show to let people know where his "talents" will play      your smarter than this      LeBron  is a solid player  I never said he wasn't     mj never picked and choose his players like James  if he did he would have 10 rings 0 loses 10 finals mvp   pippin is overrated   irving way better   and if the bucks made their free throws and played smarter they would be here   would rather have mj instead of houdini to start a team any day     again   great write up  beast            good luck  

    Hold on. Hold on. You are conflating many parts of the conversation. 

    initiating a powerplay to get a coach fired like Lebron did Brown, does not refute what I said. And what I said was he wanted to make the team around him better and did and still does.

    Compare that to punching Will Purdue in the face. Compare that to also punching Steve Kerr in the face. Compare that to harassing Bill Cartwright in front of his team. Compare that to harassing Kwame Brown when he didn't live up to expectations. Even Pippen has come out of late and had some opinions of Jordan that let's just say, aren't of the highest regard.

    Now on this point ALONE who wins out as the better teammate who invested in his team and wanted to make them all better (and does). Virtually everyone who plays with the guy gets better. It's insanity really. And I can go on and on.

    I don't have to sit here and kneel to his alter MJ never picked his coach because he played for Phil Jackson, the coach he wanted virtually his entire career (and it's rumored he got Doug Collins fired btw). 

    All in all LBJ is no saint. Both men were men of extraordinary power on and off the court because of wealth and talent. But LBJ wins out in terms of being a better team mate, investing in his team mates, and making them better more than Jordan.

    I was there for IT ALL. I guarantee you are a bit to young to speak on these points with the minutia I detail here. No offense!

    End of story Scooby!
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    hey scal    nice write up       to say LeBron not selfish and to say he makes his team better than MJ is way off      for starters MJ never quit on his team    always gave maximum effort even though the stat sheet might not show it     always made his free throws when it counted most   HE got his coach FIRED    he told team to fold  thats not selfish?  he left his team to form a mini super team  to win   not  selfish?   putting your personal needs in front of everything is selfish     he holds a show to let people know where his "talents" will play      your smarter than this      LeBron  is a solid player  I never said he wasn't     mj never picked and choose his players like James  if he did he would have 10 rings 0 loses 10 finals mvp   pippin is overrated   irving way better   and if the bucks made their free throws and played smarter they would be here   would rather have mj instead of houdini to start a team any day     again   great write up  beast            good luck  

    Hold on. Hold on. You are conflating many parts of the conversation. 

    initiating a powerplay to get a coach fired like Lebron did Brown, does not refute what I said. And what I said was he wanted to make the team around him better and did and still does.

    Compare that to punching Will Purdue in the face. Compare that to also punching Steve Kerr in the face. Compare that to harassing Bill Cartwright in front of his team. Compare that to harassing Kwame Brown when he didn't live up to expectations. Even Pippen has come out of late and had some opinions of Jordan that let's just say, aren't of the highest regard.

    Now on this point ALONE who wins out as the better teammate who invested in his team and wanted to make them all better (and does). Virtually everyone who plays with the guy gets better. It's insanity really. And I can go on and on.

    I don't have to sit here and kneel to his alter MJ never picked his coach because he played for Phil Jackson, the coach he wanted virtually his entire career (and it's rumored he got Doug Collins fired btw). 

    All in all LBJ is no saint. Both men were men of extraordinary power on and off the court because of wealth and talent. But LBJ wins out in terms of being a better team mate, investing in his team mates, and making them better more than Jordan.

    I was there for IT ALL. I guarantee you are a bit to young to speak on these points with the minutia I detail here. No offense!

    End of story Scooby!
     
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    Teammate is one word by the way. The automatic spell check on these phones is an embarrassment given how far the technology has advanced. Expect a ton of typos when I don't have time to proofread. 
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    Teammate is one word by the way. The automatic spell check on these phones is an embarrassment given how far the technology has advanced. Expect a ton of typos when I don't have time to proofread. 
     
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    Irving is better than Pippen.

    Ok if we start on the defensive side of the ball, Irving is an embarrassment compared to Pippen. Now you would have to argue that Irving is SO much better than Pippen on the offensive side of the ball, that he makes up for that defensive embarrassment. And during his time with Jordan Pippen during his title run he was averaging about 21 and 7. 
     

    So right out of the gate, you will lose because Kyrie's averages are not so much moret, t  impressive (more points and less rebounds with an underwhelming number of assists for a PG) that you can win that argument.

    In fact, just starting the argument makes it dead on arrival.
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    Irving is better than Pippen.

    Ok if we start on the defensive side of the ball, Irving is an embarrassment compared to Pippen. Now you would have to argue that Irving is SO much better than Pippen on the offensive side of the ball, that he makes up for that defensive embarrassment. And during his time with Jordan Pippen during his title run he was averaging about 21 and 7. 
     

    So right out of the gate, you will lose because Kyrie's averages are not so much moret, t  impressive (more points and less rebounds with an underwhelming number of assists for a PG) that you can win that argument.

    In fact, just starting the argument makes it dead on arrival.
     
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    All interesting responses, Scal! 

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    All interesting responses, Scal! 

     
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    6 -0 finals   6 mvps    i read your read your opinions   i find it interesting and informative   i never said james was not a solid player    true both are powerful and influential    never stated they were not   jordan goes on any team they instantly get better   james the same  as i said he is a solid player    jordan made his teammates better     maybe his way may not be socially acceptable nowadays but his team was filled with average players who played well above their means    yes scottie  and know people view him as a top 75 all timer  but i would take kyrie over him    different times different games    i have been blessed to see great basketball with great players  great teams     i just remember jordan's response when asked if he ever wanted to join other great players   he said play with the best    "No I want to beat the best"   he took  his lumps and gave it      LBJ  left to win   and he did   kudos to him   scal   enjoy your weekend   looking forward to more of your insights      i hate typing    best of luck       side note   if you were the knicks who you drafting?    thanks again  enjoy  
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    6 -0 finals   6 mvps    i read your read your opinions   i find it interesting and informative   i never said james was not a solid player    true both are powerful and influential    never stated they were not   jordan goes on any team they instantly get better   james the same  as i said he is a solid player    jordan made his teammates better     maybe his way may not be socially acceptable nowadays but his team was filled with average players who played well above their means    yes scottie  and know people view him as a top 75 all timer  but i would take kyrie over him    different times different games    i have been blessed to see great basketball with great players  great teams     i just remember jordan's response when asked if he ever wanted to join other great players   he said play with the best    "No I want to beat the best"   he took  his lumps and gave it      LBJ  left to win   and he did   kudos to him   scal   enjoy your weekend   looking forward to more of your insights      i hate typing    best of luck       side note   if you were the knicks who you drafting?    thanks again  enjoy  
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scooby-doos:

    6 -0 finals   6 mvps    i read your read your opinions   i find it interesting and informative   i never said james was not a solid player    true both are powerful and influential    never stated they were not   jordan goes on any team they instantly get better   james the same  as i said he is a solid player    jordan made his teammates better     maybe his way may not be socially acceptable nowadays but his team was filled with average players who played well above their means    yes scottie  and know people view him as a top 75 all timer  but i would take kyrie over him    different times different games    i have been blessed to see great basketball with great players  great teams     i just remember jordan's response when asked if he ever wanted to join other great players   he said play with the best    "No I want to beat the best"   he took  his lumps and gave it      LBJ  left to win   and he did   kudos to him   scal   enjoy your weekend   looking forward to more of your insights      i hate typing    best of luck       side note   if you were the knicks who you drafting?    thanks again  enjoy  


    If you would replace Kyrie with Jordan you'd be making a grave mistake. Byron coached Kyrie. The guy was a quitter. Byron implored him to play harder. Several times he quit on Byron. If your remember Kyrie was supposed to be the future of the franchise. Lebron was never coming back. This team would have trouble making the playoffs with just Kyrie. Championships? ECF's please. And you'd take that over Pippen in his heyday? 

    21 and 24 wins as the lead guy without Lebron with Byron. A quitter.

    That's the point Lebron changes you! He changes everyone.


    Knicks have so many problems it doesn't matter. They are a disgrace!

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    6 -0 finals   6 mvps    i read your read your opinions   i find it interesting and informative   i never said james was not a solid player    true both are powerful and influential    never stated they were not   jordan goes on any team they instantly get better   james the same  as i said he is a solid player    jordan made his teammates better     maybe his way may not be socially acceptable nowadays but his team was filled with average players who played well above their means    yes scottie  and know people view him as a top 75 all timer  but i would take kyrie over him    different times different games    i have been blessed to see great basketball with great players  great teams     i just remember jordan's response when asked if he ever wanted to join other great players   he said play with the best    "No I want to beat the best"   he took  his lumps and gave it      LBJ  left to win   and he did   kudos to him   scal   enjoy your weekend   looking forward to more of your insights      i hate typing    best of luck       side note   if you were the knicks who you drafting?    thanks again  enjoy  


    If you would replace Kyrie with Jordan you'd be making a grave mistake. Byron coached Kyrie. The guy was a quitter. Byron implored him to play harder. Several times he quit on Byron. If your remember Kyrie was supposed to be the future of the franchise. Lebron was never coming back. This team would have trouble making the playoffs with just Kyrie. Championships? ECF's please. And you'd take that over Pippen in his heyday? 

    21 and 24 wins as the lead guy without Lebron with Byron. A quitter.

    That's the point Lebron changes you! He changes everyone.


    Knicks have so many problems it doesn't matter. They are a disgrace!

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