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    Declining the safety... smartest call I've seen a coach make in a long time

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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:30 PM ET #1

    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!
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    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:31 PM ET #2

    How do you recover an onside "punt"
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    How do you recover an onside "punt"
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:31 PM ET #3

    They were up by two scores already, don't be stupid on purpose.
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    They were up by two scores already, don't be stupid on purpose.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:32 PM ET #4

    How would they have been able to score 9 points in one possession
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    How would they have been able to score 9 points in one possession
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:32 PM ET #5

    what - ever haha - glad I was on the seatlle side - or I would have kicked the shit out of my living room
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    what - ever haha - glad I was on the seatlle side - or I would have kicked the shit out of my living room
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:32 PM ET #6

    Zero chance of losing?! So they cant fumble the snap huh? OK

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    Zero chance of losing?! So they cant fumble the snap huh? OK

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:32 PM ET #7

    Ed collins I agree with you.  These jokers have no clue
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    Ed collins I agree with you.  These jokers have no clue
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by rr207:

    How do you recover an onside "punt"
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rr207:

    How do you recover an onside "punt"
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #9

    you can't onside recover a punt if i am right.
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    you can't onside recover a punt if i am right.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #10

    you are an idiot...you can't onside kick after a safety.  If you would of said "turn the ball over" or "get injured" you might of had a point.
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    you are an idiot...you can't onside kick after a safety.  If you would of said "turn the ball over" or "get injured" you might of had a point.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #11

    Niners backers didn't deserve to cover really,, but the call was horseshit.. and 2nd of all the dude got the 1st down by the replay
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    Niners backers didn't deserve to cover really,, but the call was horseshit.. and 2nd of all the dude got the 1st down by the replay
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #12

    There was :40 left and Seattle had no timeouts...
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    There was :40 left and Seattle had no timeouts...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #13

    I completely agree and had SF -8...I am so sick of the crying and pur lack of knowledge of anything around here...its pathetic and I just lost 220 on it.....but I know its the right decision...get over it people
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    I completely agree and had SF -8...I am so sick of the crying and pur lack of knowledge of anything around here...its pathetic and I just lost 220 on it.....but I know its the right decision...get over it people
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #14

    He must have thought a safety was 1 point.  Or no points. 
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    He must have thought a safety was 1 point.  Or no points. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #15

    smart move indeed.  knee = game over,     game was over either way, so why risk injury.  he could care less of spread
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    smart move indeed.  knee = game over,     game was over either way, so why risk injury.  he could care less of spread
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:33 PM ET #16

    really?  is there a way for seattle score 9 pts?  if this is the "smartest" call you've seen in a long time, well, your math ability speaks volumes.
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    really?  is there a way for seattle score 9 pts?  if this is the "smartest" call you've seen in a long time, well, your math ability speaks volumes.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:34 PM ET #17

    They would be downing it in the victory formation.  Interesting call.  Less chance of shenanigans or injury.
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    They would be downing it in the victory formation.  Interesting call.  Less chance of shenanigans or injury.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:34 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by JLos:

    Zero chance of losing?! So they cant fumble the snap huh? OK

    thank you. this is more likely than the other ridiculous scenario imagined above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLos:

    Zero chance of losing?! So they cant fumble the snap huh? OK

    thank you. this is more likely than the other ridiculous scenario imagined above.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:34 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by straitwreckn:

    you are an idiot...you can't onside kick after a safety.  If you would of said "turn the ball over" or "get injured" you might of had a point.


    Yes you can onside kick after a safety.   It's a free kick, you have the option of punting or kicking off.   I have seen an onside kick attempted after a safety.  It's rare, but it has happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by straitwreckn:

    you are an idiot...you can't onside kick after a safety.  If you would of said "turn the ball over" or "get injured" you might of had a point.


    Yes you can onside kick after a safety.   It's a free kick, you have the option of punting or kicking off.   I have seen an onside kick attempted after a safety.  It's rare, but it has happened.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:34 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!

    Are you serious? Smartest Call you've seen in a long time?  Maybe the biggest exaggeration I have seen in a long time.  

    There is 0% chance that Seattle scores twice in 45 seconds with no time-outs.  Smells bad to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!

    Are you serious? Smartest Call you've seen in a long time?  Maybe the biggest exaggeration I have seen in a long time.  

    There is 0% chance that Seattle scores twice in 45 seconds with no time-outs.  Smells bad to me.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:34 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!
    BETTER CHANCE OF SMITH DROPPING THE SNAP ON A KNEEL DOWN PLAY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!
    BETTER CHANCE OF SMITH DROPPING THE SNAP ON A KNEEL DOWN PLAY.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:35 PM ET #22

    Cracks me up all these jokers gambling that dont know the rules of football. "Seattle could recover the onside kick" lol. Even if San Fran tried to fair catch the free kick and Kyle Williams fumbled it. It's a 2 possession game!
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    Cracks me up all these jokers gambling that dont know the rules of football. "Seattle could recover the onside kick" lol. Even if San Fran tried to fair catch the free kick and Kyle Williams fumbled it. It's a 2 possession game!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:35 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by komot:

    you can't onside recover a punt if i am right.


    because you can call fair catch once its in the air, you would just put all your good receivers on the field to fair catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by komot:

    you can't onside recover a punt if i am right.


    because you can call fair catch once its in the air, you would just put all your good receivers on the field to fair catch.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:35 PM ET #24

    Prevent injuries! Gg Harbaugh
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    Prevent injuries! Gg Harbaugh
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2012 - 11:36 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!


    What an idiot...haha...no clue what he's saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

    Re:  Seattle / San Fran.

    Decline, take a knee, and win immediately.  Zero chance of losing.

    Accept the safety, and you allow Seattle to recover a possible onside kick.  If they do, they might throw a bomb and score.  If so, then they onside kick again, throw another bomb and score again.  .001% chance of winning.

    0% is better than .001%.

    (You don't give the opposition a chance at the ball at all, if you don't have to.)

    NICE call!


    What an idiot...haha...no clue what he's saying
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