Im a die hard birds fan .... since day 1 I have not liked Carson Wentz ... now call me an idiot that’s fine .... but the guys mechanics and his inability to look downfield is just atrocious.... he has thrown more balls straight at the ground throughout the entire year then any QB I know....
Foles has an eye all over the field .... doesn’t make erratic throws and make quick decisions when he doesn’t need too... he’s thrown more 30 yard passes in a handful of games then wentz has all season....Foles came in last season if you remember against the rams while wentz went down in the end zone .... he’s doing it again ... if it wasn’t for Carson playing all season the eagles might not NOT make the playoffs..seriously what is all the hype about him? Enlighten me
Eagles wasted a draft pick a few years ago big deal move on and start your SB MVP
If anyone should be on the spotlight of a QB trade it should be wentz
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Im a die hard birds fan .... since day 1 I have not liked Carson Wentz ... now call me an idiot that’s fine .... but the guys mechanics and his inability to look downfield is just atrocious.... he has thrown more balls straight at the ground throughout the entire year then any QB I know....
Foles has an eye all over the field .... doesn’t make erratic throws and make quick decisions when he doesn’t need too... he’s thrown more 30 yard passes in a handful of games then wentz has all season....Foles came in last season if you remember against the rams while wentz went down in the end zone .... he’s doing it again ... if it wasn’t for Carson playing all season the eagles might not NOT make the playoffs..seriously what is all the hype about him? Enlighten me
Eagles wasted a draft pick a few years ago big deal move on and start your SB MVP
If anyone should be on the spotlight of a QB trade it should be wentz
I wouldn't call you an Idiot I've watched Carson Wentz all season terrible QB to say the least
Why wasn't Foles the Better QB put in earlier in the season? do you think their seasons outcome would've been different? .... I do!
Absolutely Does Doug Pederson really not see it ? Or is he just in love with the ginger bread man? Just because someone was too draft pick doesn’t mean they’re mandated to start... a lot of examples of that lost cause
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Quote Originally Posted by Macwestie1:
I wouldn't call you an Idiot I've watched Carson Wentz all season terrible QB to say the least
Why wasn't Foles the Better QB put in earlier in the season? do you think their seasons outcome would've been different? .... I do!
Absolutely Does Doug Pederson really not see it ? Or is he just in love with the ginger bread man? Just because someone was too draft pick doesn’t mean they’re mandated to start... a lot of examples of that lost cause
Wentz went to a division 2 school? Why? Because he wanted to live in the Dakotas instead of any of the legit schools in the south? Nope...because he just wasnt ever good enough when auditioning his skills to real college program scouts...sure he must have improved alot during his college days, but against whay type of caliber opposition? Where are all the defensive players he played against in college now? Flipping burgers or making you that double double?
And let us not overlook the huge role the media had in hyping up this feel good story...what agenda did all these so called sports talk media experts have to prop up this kid heading into that years draft? Regardless...i completely agree that Wentz will ultimately be a bust at the pros only because he went #1...can we agree on that? Last year when healthy he looked great because of the talent surrounding him...not because he was the next Joe Montana...philly won their superbowl but mortgaged their long term future apparently, as Wentz stock has plummeted.
Time will tell, but he will never live up to the fake hype placed on his shoulders...in my opinion.
In the day and age of "immediate gratification", a franchise qb needs to produce many years in a row consistently to warrant such hype...and those are becoming more rare than ever....Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, even Russell Wilson now...theres your elite crew...next level is Rivers only because he has never won the big game, and next gen stars? Luck for sure if hes healthy, but who else? Mahomes needs to prove it, but playing in this offense would make most average qbs look superior so time will tell...
Point is Wentz was a fraud, and Philly got duped, however because Foles caught fire and helped the team win the SB, its all water under the bridge now and everyone involved should still be happy with the ring from last year which no one can ever take away from the Eagles.
Victory Belongs to the Most Tenacious
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With hindsight being 2020....lets look at this:
Wentz went to a division 2 school? Why? Because he wanted to live in the Dakotas instead of any of the legit schools in the south? Nope...because he just wasnt ever good enough when auditioning his skills to real college program scouts...sure he must have improved alot during his college days, but against whay type of caliber opposition? Where are all the defensive players he played against in college now? Flipping burgers or making you that double double?
And let us not overlook the huge role the media had in hyping up this feel good story...what agenda did all these so called sports talk media experts have to prop up this kid heading into that years draft? Regardless...i completely agree that Wentz will ultimately be a bust at the pros only because he went #1...can we agree on that? Last year when healthy he looked great because of the talent surrounding him...not because he was the next Joe Montana...philly won their superbowl but mortgaged their long term future apparently, as Wentz stock has plummeted.
Time will tell, but he will never live up to the fake hype placed on his shoulders...in my opinion.
In the day and age of "immediate gratification", a franchise qb needs to produce many years in a row consistently to warrant such hype...and those are becoming more rare than ever....Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, even Russell Wilson now...theres your elite crew...next level is Rivers only because he has never won the big game, and next gen stars? Luck for sure if hes healthy, but who else? Mahomes needs to prove it, but playing in this offense would make most average qbs look superior so time will tell...
Point is Wentz was a fraud, and Philly got duped, however because Foles caught fire and helped the team win the SB, its all water under the bridge now and everyone involved should still be happy with the ring from last year which no one can ever take away from the Eagles.
You’re legit insane. Your head is mush, and you need it examined quick. No one in their right mind can say the Foles is a better QB. Did you forget that Wentz was the MVP front runner last year before he went down? MV fuggin P. You realize Wentz hasn’t been 100% from the ACL and LCL injury. ACL would have been recovered, but both takes longer. Add the back issue and you’re doubting him for some reason.
Please remove the post it’s offending all of us sane people who actually know how to evaluate the NFL.
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You’re legit insane. Your head is mush, and you need it examined quick. No one in their right mind can say the Foles is a better QB. Did you forget that Wentz was the MVP front runner last year before he went down? MV fuggin P. You realize Wentz hasn’t been 100% from the ACL and LCL injury. ACL would have been recovered, but both takes longer. Add the back issue and you’re doubting him for some reason.
Please remove the post it’s offending all of us sane people who actually know how to evaluate the NFL.
Wentz went to a division 2 school? Why? Because he wanted to live in the Dakotas instead of any of the legit schools in the south? Nope...because he just wasnt ever good enough when auditioning his skills to real college program scouts...sure he must have improved alot during his college days, but against whay type of caliber opposition? Where are all the defensive players he played against in college now? Flipping burgers or making you that double double?
And let us not overlook the huge role the media had in hyping up this feel good story...what agenda did all these so called sports talk media experts have to prop up this kid heading into that years draft? Regardless...i completely agree that Wentz will ultimately be a bust at the pros only because he went #1...can we agree on that? Last year when healthy he looked great because of the talent surrounding him...not because he was the next Joe Montana...philly won their superbowl but mortgaged their long term future apparently, as Wentz stock has plummeted.
Time will tell, but he will never live up to the fake hype placed on his shoulders...in my opinion.
In the day and age of "immediate gratification", a franchise qb needs to produce many years in a row consistently to warrant such hype...and those are becoming more rare than ever....Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, even Russell Wilson now...theres your elite crew...next level is Rivers only because he has never won the big game, and next gen stars? Luck for sure if hes healthy, but who else? Mahomes needs to prove it, but playing in this offense would make most average qbs look superior so time will tell...
Point is Wentz was a fraud, and Philly got duped, however because Foles caught fire and helped the team win the SB, its all water under the bridge now and everyone involved should still be happy with the ring from last year which no one can ever take away from the Eagles.
You may be dumber.
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
With hindsight being 2020....lets look at this:
Wentz went to a division 2 school? Why? Because he wanted to live in the Dakotas instead of any of the legit schools in the south? Nope...because he just wasnt ever good enough when auditioning his skills to real college program scouts...sure he must have improved alot during his college days, but against whay type of caliber opposition? Where are all the defensive players he played against in college now? Flipping burgers or making you that double double?
And let us not overlook the huge role the media had in hyping up this feel good story...what agenda did all these so called sports talk media experts have to prop up this kid heading into that years draft? Regardless...i completely agree that Wentz will ultimately be a bust at the pros only because he went #1...can we agree on that? Last year when healthy he looked great because of the talent surrounding him...not because he was the next Joe Montana...philly won their superbowl but mortgaged their long term future apparently, as Wentz stock has plummeted.
Time will tell, but he will never live up to the fake hype placed on his shoulders...in my opinion.
In the day and age of "immediate gratification", a franchise qb needs to produce many years in a row consistently to warrant such hype...and those are becoming more rare than ever....Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, even Russell Wilson now...theres your elite crew...next level is Rivers only because he has never won the big game, and next gen stars? Luck for sure if hes healthy, but who else? Mahomes needs to prove it, but playing in this offense would make most average qbs look superior so time will tell...
Point is Wentz was a fraud, and Philly got duped, however because Foles caught fire and helped the team win the SB, its all water under the bridge now and everyone involved should still be happy with the ring from last year which no one can ever take away from the Eagles.
With hindsight being 2020....lets look at this: Wentz went to a division 2 school? Why? Because he wanted to live in the Dakotas instead of any of the legit schools in the south? Nope...because he just wasnt ever good enough when auditioning his skills to real college program scouts...sure he must have improved alot during his college days, but against whay type of caliber opposition? Where are all the defensive players he played against in college now? Flipping burgers or making you that double double? And let us not overlook the huge role the media had in hyping up this feel good story...what agenda did all these so called sports talk media experts have to prop up this kid heading into that years draft? Regardless...i completely agree that Wentz will ultimately be a bust at the pros only because he went #1...can we agree on that? Last year when healthy he looked great because of the talent surrounding him...not because he was the next Joe Montana...philly won their superbowl but mortgaged their long term future apparently, as Wentz stock has plummeted. Time will tell, but he will never live up to the fake hype placed on his shoulders...in my opinion. In the day and age of "immediate gratification", a franchise qb needs to produce many years in a row consistently to warrant such hype...and those are becoming more rare than ever....Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, even Russell Wilson now...theres your elite crew...next level is Rivers only because he has never won the big game, and next gen stars? Luck for sure if hes healthy, but who else? Mahomes needs to prove it, but playing in this offense would make most average qbs look superior so time will tell... Point is Wentz was a fraud, and Philly got duped, however because Foles caught fire and helped the team win the SB, its all water under the bridge now and everyone involved should still be happy with the ring from last year which no one can ever take away from the Eagles.
What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion with a beeper!
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
With hindsight being 2020....lets look at this: Wentz went to a division 2 school? Why? Because he wanted to live in the Dakotas instead of any of the legit schools in the south? Nope...because he just wasnt ever good enough when auditioning his skills to real college program scouts...sure he must have improved alot during his college days, but against whay type of caliber opposition? Where are all the defensive players he played against in college now? Flipping burgers or making you that double double? And let us not overlook the huge role the media had in hyping up this feel good story...what agenda did all these so called sports talk media experts have to prop up this kid heading into that years draft? Regardless...i completely agree that Wentz will ultimately be a bust at the pros only because he went #1...can we agree on that? Last year when healthy he looked great because of the talent surrounding him...not because he was the next Joe Montana...philly won their superbowl but mortgaged their long term future apparently, as Wentz stock has plummeted. Time will tell, but he will never live up to the fake hype placed on his shoulders...in my opinion. In the day and age of "immediate gratification", a franchise qb needs to produce many years in a row consistently to warrant such hype...and those are becoming more rare than ever....Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, even Russell Wilson now...theres your elite crew...next level is Rivers only because he has never won the big game, and next gen stars? Luck for sure if hes healthy, but who else? Mahomes needs to prove it, but playing in this offense would make most average qbs look superior so time will tell... Point is Wentz was a fraud, and Philly got duped, however because Foles caught fire and helped the team win the SB, its all water under the bridge now and everyone involved should still be happy with the ring from last year which no one can ever take away from the Eagles.
Sorry you feel that way Falopian...it must be hard for you to grasp the reality of this season and its impact moving forward for your beloved team.
Not hard at all. Wentz is the future and the truth. You think I’m really gonna let three idiots who don’t know football state that foles is better? FOH
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Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Sorry you feel that way Falopian...it must be hard for you to grasp the reality of this season and its impact moving forward for your beloved team.
Not hard at all. Wentz is the future and the truth. You think I’m really gonna let three idiots who don’t know football state that foles is better? FOH
In 2017, when healthy, Carson Wentz led the Eagles to a 10-2 record heading into a week 14 game against the Rams. He had compiled a stat line at that point of 33 touchdown passes with 7 interceptions and a passer rating of 101.9.
He was a frontrunner for league MVP prior to injuring his knee against the Rams that day.
Fast forward to 2018, Wentz lobbied to return to action before being fully recovered. Coach Peterson kept him on the bench until week 3.
So Wentz never saw any action during the preseason and was inserted into the lineup out of necessity because Foles wasn't producing early on.
Wentz played early on rusty from the long layoff as well as not being fully healed.
The fact of the matter is Wentz has been playing with a fractured vertebrae in his lower back for the past couple of weeks.
His play this year is without question uninspiring but make no mistake, he is the quarterback of the future for Philadelphia and I believe he will regain his form as a top signal caller in this league for many years to come if he can stay healthy.
Banging since 1983
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In 2017, when healthy, Carson Wentz led the Eagles to a 10-2 record heading into a week 14 game against the Rams. He had compiled a stat line at that point of 33 touchdown passes with 7 interceptions and a passer rating of 101.9.
He was a frontrunner for league MVP prior to injuring his knee against the Rams that day.
Fast forward to 2018, Wentz lobbied to return to action before being fully recovered. Coach Peterson kept him on the bench until week 3.
So Wentz never saw any action during the preseason and was inserted into the lineup out of necessity because Foles wasn't producing early on.
Wentz played early on rusty from the long layoff as well as not being fully healed.
The fact of the matter is Wentz has been playing with a fractured vertebrae in his lower back for the past couple of weeks.
His play this year is without question uninspiring but make no mistake, he is the quarterback of the future for Philadelphia and I believe he will regain his form as a top signal caller in this league for many years to come if he can stay healthy.
In 2017, when healthy, Carson Wentz led the Eagles to a 10-2 record heading into a week 14 game against the Rams. He had compiled a stat line at that point of 33 touchdown passes with 7 interceptions and a passer rating of 101.9.
He was a frontrunner for league MVP prior to injuring his knee against the Rams that day.
Fast forward to 2018, Wentz lobbied to return to action before being fully recovered. Coach Peterson kept him on the bench until week 3.
So Wentz never saw any action during the preseason and was inserted into the lineup out of necessity because Foles wasn't producing early on.
Wentz played early on rusty from the long layoff as well as not being fully healed.
The fact of the matter is Wentz has been playing with a fractured vertebrae in his lower back for the past couple of weeks.
His play this year is without question uninspiring but make no mistake, he is the quarterback of the future for Philadelphia and I believe he will regain his form as a top signal caller in this league for many years to come if he can stay healthy.
someone has eyes that work. I was getting concerned
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Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:
In 2017, when healthy, Carson Wentz led the Eagles to a 10-2 record heading into a week 14 game against the Rams. He had compiled a stat line at that point of 33 touchdown passes with 7 interceptions and a passer rating of 101.9.
He was a frontrunner for league MVP prior to injuring his knee against the Rams that day.
Fast forward to 2018, Wentz lobbied to return to action before being fully recovered. Coach Peterson kept him on the bench until week 3.
So Wentz never saw any action during the preseason and was inserted into the lineup out of necessity because Foles wasn't producing early on.
Wentz played early on rusty from the long layoff as well as not being fully healed.
The fact of the matter is Wentz has been playing with a fractured vertebrae in his lower back for the past couple of weeks.
His play this year is without question uninspiring but make no mistake, he is the quarterback of the future for Philadelphia and I believe he will regain his form as a top signal caller in this league for many years to come if he can stay healthy.
someone has eyes that work. I was getting concerned
Point is, in 1.5 years he is up there in yards per attempt with the old timers who are ready to retire and have been in the league forever, and Nick is slightly ahead of him.
It took Brady four years to begin averaging 7 yards an attempt. Last year, Nick Foles averaged 5.3 yards per attempt. I don't know what crack you are smoking dude.
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Carson a bust, can't look downfield?
Carson 7.0 yards per attempt
Nick 7.1 yards per attempt
Tom Brady 7.5
Brees 7.6
Big Ben 7.8
Rivers 7.8
Rodgers 7.8
Point is, in 1.5 years he is up there in yards per attempt with the old timers who are ready to retire and have been in the league forever, and Nick is slightly ahead of him.
It took Brady four years to begin averaging 7 yards an attempt. Last year, Nick Foles averaged 5.3 yards per attempt. I don't know what crack you are smoking dude.
Sorry you feel that way Falopian...it must be hard for you to grasp the reality of this season and its impact moving forward for your beloved team.
Not hard at all. Wentz is the future and the truth. You think I’m really gonna let three idiots who don’t know football state that foles is better? FOH
Foles is a career back up...i agree...but Wentz really wont live up to the hype when we all look back...his quick 10-2 start was nice, but once teams get tape on him, they know how to stop him.
Next few years will tell the real truth
Victory Belongs to the Most Tenacious
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Quote Originally Posted by FallopianTuber:
Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:
Sorry you feel that way Falopian...it must be hard for you to grasp the reality of this season and its impact moving forward for your beloved team.
Not hard at all. Wentz is the future and the truth. You think I’m really gonna let three idiots who don’t know football state that foles is better? FOH
Foles is a career back up...i agree...but Wentz really wont live up to the hype when we all look back...his quick 10-2 start was nice, but once teams get tape on him, they know how to stop him.
Not a fan of the Fell Opian Tubber, but have to agree with him and Eastside.
There is a reason Foles is a backup. There is a reason teams didn't try EXTRA HARD to obtain him.
Do you seriously think Pederson and the he offensive coaches don't see these two in practices, the film room, meetings etc and don't have a clue as to which guy they think is the QB they want to start when both are healthy? Doesn't matter who is getting paid what
As for Wentz hype? Like all hype it is media driven. Sorry, who in their right mind pays attention to media driven hype?
LOL!
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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Not a fan of the Fell Opian Tubber, but have to agree with him and Eastside.
There is a reason Foles is a backup. There is a reason teams didn't try EXTRA HARD to obtain him.
Do you seriously think Pederson and the he offensive coaches don't see these two in practices, the film room, meetings etc and don't have a clue as to which guy they think is the QB they want to start when both are healthy? Doesn't matter who is getting paid what
As for Wentz hype? Like all hype it is media driven. Sorry, who in their right mind pays attention to media driven hype?
I agree to disagree with everyone disagreeing with me. HahaWentz is being made out to be amazing when he’s not.... should have taken Goff... or DARNOLD over him. BUT can’t fix stupid and can’t rewind life. Go Eagles
You are correct. You can't fix stupid and in the spirit of the holiday, I won't point out the obvious stupidity you're showing. Don't forget what the Scarecrow wished for.
Merry Christmas
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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Quote Originally Posted by Leafs2019:
I agree to disagree with everyone disagreeing with me. HahaWentz is being made out to be amazing when he’s not.... should have taken Goff... or DARNOLD over him. BUT can’t fix stupid and can’t rewind life. Go Eagles
You are correct. You can't fix stupid and in the spirit of the holiday, I won't point out the obvious stupidity you're showing. Don't forget what the Scarecrow wished for.
Foles got a starting gig a couple of years ago with the Rams and flopped bigtime.He was ready to give up football before the Eagles offered him a backup job.Nick Foles is playing well but he is who he is, a backup!!
Foles won a superbowl and was the MVP. He was amazing last year but it sure helps when you have a great team around you just like Wentz had before he got hurt. Lets see if Wentz can win a superbowl in his career and dominate a playoff run like Foles did?
You learn more from losing than winning. You learn how to keep going.
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Quote Originally Posted by EastsideBangers:
Foles got a starting gig a couple of years ago with the Rams and flopped bigtime.He was ready to give up football before the Eagles offered him a backup job.Nick Foles is playing well but he is who he is, a backup!!
Foles won a superbowl and was the MVP. He was amazing last year but it sure helps when you have a great team around you just like Wentz had before he got hurt. Lets see if Wentz can win a superbowl in his career and dominate a playoff run like Foles did?
Not too many QBs take the hit he took yesterday then come back in with that field position and little time to make plays to win a game
This guy won a super bowl last year and the media labels him as a back up, he would outplay Brady 10 out 10 games if they meant anything
The Patriots won 4 super bowls with Brady throwing 5 INTs including a pick 6, another him throwing for 120 yards the defense and special teams responsible for all the points
. The only reason the Patriots show up in all these post season games isn't because of any QB it because they are in a division with Buffalo Miami and the Jets which puts them 2 games away from a super bowl every year
Brady should have had 5 Ints in the last super bowl he hit defenders in the hands 5 times ,just cause they didn't make a play doesn't absolve Brady from sucking , Foles was great he's a winner
Bottom line ignore the labels the media gives these players and watch the games
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Not too many QBs take the hit he took yesterday then come back in with that field position and little time to make plays to win a game
This guy won a super bowl last year and the media labels him as a back up, he would outplay Brady 10 out 10 games if they meant anything
The Patriots won 4 super bowls with Brady throwing 5 INTs including a pick 6, another him throwing for 120 yards the defense and special teams responsible for all the points
. The only reason the Patriots show up in all these post season games isn't because of any QB it because they are in a division with Buffalo Miami and the Jets which puts them 2 games away from a super bowl every year
Brady should have had 5 Ints in the last super bowl he hit defenders in the hands 5 times ,just cause they didn't make a play doesn't absolve Brady from sucking , Foles was great he's a winner
Bottom line ignore the labels the media gives these players and watch the games
Yet the rest of the NFL teams are not clamoring to get this Super Duper QB on their team. They must not know a thing compared to the guys in this thread. You should run, not walk, to your favorite team and DEMAND they give you the GM job of said team.
Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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Yet the rest of the NFL teams are not clamoring to get this Super Duper QB on their team. They must not know a thing compared to the guys in this thread. You should run, not walk, to your favorite team and DEMAND they give you the GM job of said team.
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