One nice run in a preseason game...he'll probably get a few more carries in the upcoming games for sure...decent size...decent speed...I agree..special teams at minimum...
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One nice run in a preseason game...he'll probably get a few more carries in the upcoming games for sure...decent size...decent speed...I agree..special teams at minimum...
Im a huge fan of this guy, I think it's really cool this transition he's trying to make. I really hope he not only makes the team but finds a role in this offense. That big run of his was very impressive from a natural talent perspective. Great running instincts and a great stiff arm at the end of the run.
More importantly, the stuff these coaches are gonna watch on film........he really did a great job finding holes and getting upfield when running. For a guy who's new to the game I found this very impressive. Most unexperienced or just simply bad running backs can't find those small seams and they run wide and sideways to get around people. Coaches hate that and exactly how you get yourself cut. This guy has show serious talent and some great running instincts. It's only based on one game but this guy has 3rd down back written all over him (assuming he can catch).
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Im a huge fan of this guy, I think it's really cool this transition he's trying to make. I really hope he not only makes the team but finds a role in this offense. That big run of his was very impressive from a natural talent perspective. Great running instincts and a great stiff arm at the end of the run.
More importantly, the stuff these coaches are gonna watch on film........he really did a great job finding holes and getting upfield when running. For a guy who's new to the game I found this very impressive. Most unexperienced or just simply bad running backs can't find those small seams and they run wide and sideways to get around people. Coaches hate that and exactly how you get yourself cut. This guy has show serious talent and some great running instincts. It's only based on one game but this guy has 3rd down back written all over him (assuming he can catch).
He had a nice run, did ok on kick returns, and his already a seasoned professional. He appears to have a nice skill set to go with his size. Special teams, maybe second or third stringer.
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He had a nice run, did ok on kick returns, and his already a seasoned professional. He appears to have a nice skill set to go with his size. Special teams, maybe second or third stringer.
He isn't a rookie by age either. 27 is a age where NFL players are in their prime, especially running backs. He has a tiny learning curve to master a lot.
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He isn't a rookie by age either. 27 is a age where NFL players are in their prime, especially running backs. He has a tiny learning curve to master a lot.
He isn't a rookie by age either. 27 is a age where NFL players are in their prime, especially running backs. He has a tiny learning curve to master a lot.
Running Back and D-line are the most instinctive positions on the football field. it's more about heart and desire than mastering a certain skill set.
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Quote Originally Posted by rudy22:
He isn't a rookie by age either. 27 is a age where NFL players are in their prime, especially running backs. He has a tiny learning curve to master a lot.
Running Back and D-line are the most instinctive positions on the football field. it's more about heart and desire than mastering a certain skill set.
Running Back and D-line are the most instinctive positions on the football field. it's more about heart and desire than mastering a certain skill set.
Q,
Good points, but the bigger picture is a 27 year old foreign player that never played american football until this summer and he is 27. Lastly you should answer the original question for Isport not my response.
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
Running Back and D-line are the most instinctive positions on the football field. it's more about heart and desire than mastering a certain skill set.
Q,
Good points, but the bigger picture is a 27 year old foreign player that never played american football until this summer and he is 27. Lastly you should answer the original question for Isport not my response.
DL takes a lot of leverage work, hand fighting, multiple moves and counter moves.
Sure, some guys are naturals, but it is that way with anything. It takes a solid year for most D Linemen to make the jump from super competitive College play even with a lifetime of playing experience.
You absolutely could not just be big, strong, and want it and just jump into an NFL DE job.
The Cowboys, for example, just found a guy named Efe Obada.
I've been following his story because he is physically identical to Jadeveon Clowney, and I thought similarly to you that he was going to be an impact player because of this.
Obada is from London, and had played a bit in London. And again, I'm telling you, he tested out in combine drills as a physical identical to Jadeveon Clowney.
You line that guy up? Even against a third string tackle? It's embarrassing. The dude gets manhandled. He is stronger, and faster than these Tackles. By metrics, he should be able to get the corner on these guys, but he can't. No moves.
And I know the next thing i'd argue is "maybe he doesn't want it?" Obada was working a minimum wage job in a factory when the Cowboys found him and if he were to live up to the Clowney hype he would stand to make multiple millions.. His past is truly inspiring.
My point is, Defensive Line is a finesse position that requires brute strength. It is not a plug and play position.
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...RB yes, DL no.
DL takes a lot of leverage work, hand fighting, multiple moves and counter moves.
Sure, some guys are naturals, but it is that way with anything. It takes a solid year for most D Linemen to make the jump from super competitive College play even with a lifetime of playing experience.
You absolutely could not just be big, strong, and want it and just jump into an NFL DE job.
The Cowboys, for example, just found a guy named Efe Obada.
I've been following his story because he is physically identical to Jadeveon Clowney, and I thought similarly to you that he was going to be an impact player because of this.
Obada is from London, and had played a bit in London. And again, I'm telling you, he tested out in combine drills as a physical identical to Jadeveon Clowney.
You line that guy up? Even against a third string tackle? It's embarrassing. The dude gets manhandled. He is stronger, and faster than these Tackles. By metrics, he should be able to get the corner on these guys, but he can't. No moves.
And I know the next thing i'd argue is "maybe he doesn't want it?" Obada was working a minimum wage job in a factory when the Cowboys found him and if he were to live up to the Clowney hype he would stand to make multiple millions.. His past is truly inspiring.
My point is, Defensive Line is a finesse position that requires brute strength. It is not a plug and play position.
DL takes a lot of leverage work, hand fighting, multiple moves and counter moves.
Sure, some guys are naturals, but it is that way with anything. It takes a solid year for most D Linemen to make the jump from super competitive College play even with a lifetime of playing experience.
You absolutely could not just be big, strong, and want it and just jump into an NFL DE job.
The Cowboys, for example, just found a guy named Efe Obada.
I've been following his story because he is physically identical to Jadeveon Clowney, and I thought similarly to you that he was going to be an impact player because of this.
Obada is from London, and had played a bit in London. And again, I'm telling you, he tested out in combine drills as a physical identical to Jadeveon Clowney.
You line that guy up? Even against a third string tackle? It's embarrassing. The dude gets manhandled. He is stronger, and faster than these Tackles. By metrics, he should be able to get the corner on these guys, but he can't. No moves.
And I know the next thing i'd argue is "maybe he doesn't want it?" Obada was working a minimum wage job in a factory when the Cowboys found him and if he were to live up to the Clowney hype he would stand to make multiple millions.. His past is truly inspiring.
My point is, Defensive Line is a finesse position that requires brute strength. It is not a plug and play position.
Nice job.
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Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:
...RB yes, DL no.
DL takes a lot of leverage work, hand fighting, multiple moves and counter moves.
Sure, some guys are naturals, but it is that way with anything. It takes a solid year for most D Linemen to make the jump from super competitive College play even with a lifetime of playing experience.
You absolutely could not just be big, strong, and want it and just jump into an NFL DE job.
The Cowboys, for example, just found a guy named Efe Obada.
I've been following his story because he is physically identical to Jadeveon Clowney, and I thought similarly to you that he was going to be an impact player because of this.
Obada is from London, and had played a bit in London. And again, I'm telling you, he tested out in combine drills as a physical identical to Jadeveon Clowney.
You line that guy up? Even against a third string tackle? It's embarrassing. The dude gets manhandled. He is stronger, and faster than these Tackles. By metrics, he should be able to get the corner on these guys, but he can't. No moves.
And I know the next thing i'd argue is "maybe he doesn't want it?" Obada was working a minimum wage job in a factory when the Cowboys found him and if he were to live up to the Clowney hype he would stand to make multiple millions.. His past is truly inspiring.
My point is, Defensive Line is a finesse position that requires brute strength. It is not a plug and play position.
You have to take into account he's never played RB before when you say he has little time to learn the game. His knees have not taken a beating since the age of 15-16 like your standard 27 year old RB. He has played rugby league which is physical but not in the same way as it is for an NFL RB. It's like Justin Forsett who is now in his prime at 29 because he hadn't had a heavy work load before. So Hayne has plenty of time if he is good enough.
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You have to take into account he's never played RB before when you say he has little time to learn the game. His knees have not taken a beating since the age of 15-16 like your standard 27 year old RB. He has played rugby league which is physical but not in the same way as it is for an NFL RB. It's like Justin Forsett who is now in his prime at 29 because he hadn't had a heavy work load before. So Hayne has plenty of time if he is good enough.
DL takes a lot of leverage work, hand fighting, multiple moves and counter moves. some have that stuff instinctively, dude.
Sure, some guys are naturals, but it is that way with anything. It takes a solid year for most D Linemen to make the jump from super competitive College play even with a lifetime of playing experience.
You absolutely could not just be big, strong, and want it and just jump into an NFL DE job.
The Cowboys, for example, just found a guy named Efe Obada.
I've been following his story because he is physically identical to Jadeveon Clowney, and I thought similarly to you that he was going to be an impact player because of this.
Obada is from London, and had played a bit in London. And again, I'm telling you, he tested out in combine drills as a physical identical to Jadeveon Clowney.
You line that guy up? Even against a third string tackle? It's embarrassing. The dude gets manhandled. He is stronger, and faster than these Tackles. By metrics, he should be able to get the corner on these guys, but he can't. No moves.
And I know the next thing i'd argue is "maybe he doesn't want it?" Obada was working a minimum wage job in a factory when the Cowboys found him and if he were to live up to the Clowney hype he would stand to make multiple millions.. His past is truly inspiring.
My point is, Defensive Line is a finesse position that requires brute strength. It is not a plug and play position.
there is nothing finesse about playing D-line.
it can be a plug and play position.
I never said technique was not involved.
believe it or not some guys have moves and counter moves naturally. just bcuz euro guy aint got none does not mean nobody else has any moves.
im not talking about being all-pro, ok, i really didn't think i had to say that.
it's obvi u never D-line before, finesse, child please!
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Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:
...RB yes, DL no.
DL takes a lot of leverage work, hand fighting, multiple moves and counter moves. some have that stuff instinctively, dude.
Sure, some guys are naturals, but it is that way with anything. It takes a solid year for most D Linemen to make the jump from super competitive College play even with a lifetime of playing experience.
You absolutely could not just be big, strong, and want it and just jump into an NFL DE job.
The Cowboys, for example, just found a guy named Efe Obada.
I've been following his story because he is physically identical to Jadeveon Clowney, and I thought similarly to you that he was going to be an impact player because of this.
Obada is from London, and had played a bit in London. And again, I'm telling you, he tested out in combine drills as a physical identical to Jadeveon Clowney.
You line that guy up? Even against a third string tackle? It's embarrassing. The dude gets manhandled. He is stronger, and faster than these Tackles. By metrics, he should be able to get the corner on these guys, but he can't. No moves.
And I know the next thing i'd argue is "maybe he doesn't want it?" Obada was working a minimum wage job in a factory when the Cowboys found him and if he were to live up to the Clowney hype he would stand to make multiple millions.. His past is truly inspiring.
My point is, Defensive Line is a finesse position that requires brute strength. It is not a plug and play position.
there is nothing finesse about playing D-line.
it can be a plug and play position.
I never said technique was not involved.
believe it or not some guys have moves and counter moves naturally. just bcuz euro guy aint got none does not mean nobody else has any moves.
im not talking about being all-pro, ok, i really didn't think i had to say that.
it's obvi u never D-line before, finesse, child please!
I had to google what "special teams" are in NFL as originally i thought people were taking shots at him but it's actually a thing. Shows how little i know about the sport.
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I had to google what "special teams" are in NFL as originally i thought people were taking shots at him but it's actually a thing. Shows how little i know about the sport.
He called D-line a fin, fina, fine a s s , oh u know what i mean.
and rudy tooty freah an fruity backed him upomg
u guys r the best.NOT
i keep laffing to myself out load just thinking about this.
not only could u not decipher what i was saying, then u start filibustering about something u know little about.
6 foot 2 and 220 pounds is not D line size. Now what? Are you going to tell us how he gains 80 pounds f muscle in 2 weeks to make the team as a D lineman. ?????
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Quote Originally Posted by QBoption:
He called D-line a fin, fina, fine a s s , oh u know what i mean.
and rudy tooty freah an fruity backed him upomg
u guys r the best.NOT
i keep laffing to myself out load just thinking about this.
not only could u not decipher what i was saying, then u start filibustering about something u know little about.
6 foot 2 and 220 pounds is not D line size. Now what? Are you going to tell us how he gains 80 pounds f muscle in 2 weeks to make the team as a D lineman. ?????
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